2016 A P L/b S L Challenge

So last night I did the moisture drenched pre-poo and actually fell asleep with it on. Washed it out this morning. Washed with a chagrin valley shampoo bar and deep conditioned with Eden Naturals. After taking a nap with that on (think I'm catching a cold), I rinsed and my hair felt wonderful. Not a lot of shedding either.

I put on shea moisture curl milk and curl enhancing smoothie to twist. It dried and it's crunchy and dry! Smh, now I know what doesn't work.

I also measured my hair...8in left nape, 9in right nape, 12in crown, 10in front, 9in both sides by ears.
 
So last night I did the moisture drenched pre-poo and actually fell asleep with it on. Washed it out this morning. Washed with a chagrin valley shampoo bar and deep conditioned with Eden Naturals. After taking a nap with that on (think I'm catching a cold), I rinsed and my hair felt wonderful. Not a lot of shedding either.

I put on shea moisture curl milk and curl enhancing smoothie to twist. It dried and it's crunchy and dry! Smh, now I know what doesn't work.

I also measured my hair...8in left nape, 9in right nape, 12in crown, 10in front, 9in both sides by ears.

I'm really, really glad to hear that the shedding has subsided. :grin: That's awesome news!! And hopefully you're not catching a cold, same feeling crept up on me this week while doing my hair lolz..

What did your pre-poo include?
 
I'm really, really glad to hear that the shedding has subsided. :grin: That's awesome news!! And hopefully you're not catching a cold, same feeling crept up on me this week while doing my hair lolz..

What did your pre-poo include?

Thank you @long.hair.dont.care ! I am reminded that diligence is key....must make time to do my hair to keep it healthy. I sectioned it off into 6 sections. Saturated each with aloe vera gel mixed with wheatgerm oil. Then covered each section with warmed coconut oil.
 
Yes @traceedeebee, it was my first time using shea moisture styling products. And my first time using eden naturals jojoba deep conditioner.
Oh, ok. What styler were you using before? I would try the deep conditioner with your old styling products to see how your hair feels after it dries. I'm wondering if it was the curl enhancing smoothie. I haven't attempted a twist out in so long but if your hair feels good then you know the deep conditioner works for you. You can gradually try the other two to figure out which is causing the problem.
 
  1. Current hair length : roughly shoulder length
  2. Relaxed/Natural/Texlaxed/Transitioning : relaxed
  3. Goal Month:D december
  4. Current Reggie and styling choices : weekly wash w giovanni tea tree &con, clarify mizani chelating or puriphy as needed, ors mayo protein or aphogee 2 min recon as needed,partial airdry ponytail rollerset, moisturize /seal w oyin hair dew & avocado oil ,hair is clipped up into bear claw everyday for work, wrap hair in satin scarf for bed, half wigs for a night out as a cute hairstyle, search & destroy & dust rough thinning ends as needed.
  5. What do you plan on changing (if anything) to make it to APL/BSL? I want to do more scalp massages, find more products for my low & high porosity hair ( i have both in different sections), stretch my relaxer longer (i have gone to 17 weeks but i had some breakage & overprocessing bc of my stylist leaving it on too long), i will be self relaxing this next retouch & testing a different relaxer (mizani for fine color treated NOT butter blends just the regular), doing a big trim on the damaged thinner ends,take my hair skin nails vitamin more consistently, eat healthier, drink more water,& start exercising
  6. Post a beginning picture
Scheduled Updates
 

Attachments

  • 20160105_153058.jpg
    20160105_153058.jpg
    408.4 KB · Views: 38
  • 20160105_153058.jpg
    20160105_153058.jpg
    408.4 KB · Views: 34
Last edited:
@coolsista-paris I have been trying both of these and they have been great for my hair. I know it's a lot of reading, but I found that it helped simplify my process. I avoided some pitfalls when trying both methods because the women in both threads shared how they made oil rinsing and Chicoro's recipe work.

https://longhaircareforum.com/threads/you-need-a-moisture-drenched-pre-poo.509482/

https://longhaircareforum.com/threads/dont-sleep-on-oil-rinses.150965/
thank you im gonna do some reading :-)
 
Awesome!! @traceedeebee let us know how those products are treating your hair when you get the chance!




@coolsista-paris if your hair feels super dry from protein, you could always try the greenhouse or the baggy method. GIRL, never straightened your hair when it feels dry, thats a recipe for disaster. :covereyes:



Yesterday I shampooed, and did a protein treatment. Today I rinsed out the DC and oil left on overnight. Threaded my hair to stretch it out for under my wig... I failed to be consistent with the scalp messages, but I have been moisturizing properly.... Also, I think I will be dusting my ends soon...

i alreayd made the silly mistake then it all straightened. Oh my. I will try baggying but not yet as it is straight
 
@coolsista-paris :bighug:hugs to you. Breakage is frustrating. Don't worry about length deadlines. That can be extended. It's better to focus on a remedy for the breakage. I remember you asking about a clarifying shampoo. What did you find? What's in the serum that you use? Some products give a false sense of moisturization when they just coat the hair. @Cattypus1 and @long.hair.dont.care made great suggestions for helping moisturize and seal. Keep notes on what you try and what were the results. Sometimes we change up so fast, we're not giving a product or technique a chance to work.

Do you use LOC or LCO? This is nothing but product layering. Whatever method you use to seal, notate it. Try to find a style where your hair is out of the way and you're not touching it. When you get home, assess how your hair feels. If it's dry, moisturize and baggy but don't drench your hair. Check and see how it feels. Then seal your hair. I use oil on my hair and if I'm going running I'll use a butter on my ends,too. I use a manufactured product from Carol's Daughter. Check your moisturizer and verify it doesn't contain glycerin. I can tolerate this ingredient all year round but some people can't. Water with your favorite essential oil is good enough. Water, your choice of oil, and a cream moisturizer works for me. My cream moisturizer isn't anything expensive. Most of the time, it's something I want to get rid of and doesn't dry my hair out.

Please, relax and don't let deadlines or hair goals stress you out. This will pass and you'll be more knowledgeable as a result of the experience.
What kind of shears do you have?
hi thanks a lot !
i havent found my clarifying shampoo yet. we surely dont have the same products.many i cant find her. Even loreal that you have sometimes isnt her.
but ill keep seaching..
i used fantasia ic heat serum. Usuaally works great after a wash. I think i really need to get my pot of cantu shea leave in... i wll buy in a month though on my weekend in the UK.

i dont loc or lco. I never know what to do exaclty so i just seal with oil and voilà. I would love ot try a cream =/milk but...which one. mabe i should go for shea moisture milk .

i dont know. i m gonna try what you said. water + oil + cream (need t find the cream). I will try my ors moisturizing oil....
 
Weekend before last I went to a friends nieces birthday party with my sister. Love this dress!
022201615928.jpg 022201615954.jpg
Then last weekend my husband and I celebrated our 12 year marriage anniversary. Been together for 15 years.
02220161592.jpg
Then I decided to put highlights in one of my wigs
022201615831.jpg 022201615758.jpg 022201615811.jpg

My hair before braiddown
 

Attachments

  • 0222016151014.jpg
    0222016151014.jpg
    252.8 KB · Views: 34
@coolsista-paris I have used the Cantu Shea leave in as my cream. I have experimented with both ways and my hair feels the same either way. For some there is a difference between the two. Any creamy leave in or moisturizer will do. I will see if I can find the YouTube video of the lady who said she used Cantu in her loc method.
ETA: She does LCO and starts talking about it 3 minutes in. I'm sorry the video is so long.
 
Last edited:
@mzhotniz86 :welcome4:to the challenge! Will your next touch up be your first time relaxing your own hair?

Thanks! No I have done it a few times in the past but with inconsistent results. This time ive been researching the boards & I think I know what mistakes I have made in the past so Im trying again. My stylist did my last two & my hair looked shabby after. Im taking control now lol
 
Thanks! No I have done it a few times in the past but with inconsistent results. This time ive been researching the boards & I think I know what mistakes I have made in the past so Im trying again. My stylist did my last two & my hair looked shabby after. Im taking control now lol
I understand. I never understood how to self relax. I would over process my finer strands and under process my more course strands. I'm happy you can do it yourself. Please, share your results. I love all things hair.
 
  1. Current hair length : roughly shoulder length
  2. Relaxed/Natural/Texlaxed/Transitioning : relaxed
  3. Goal Month:D december
  4. Current Reggie and styling choices : weekly wash w giovanni tea tree &con, clarify mizani chelating or puriphy as needed, ors mayo protein or aphogee 2 min recon as needed,partial airdry ponytail rollerset, moisturize /seal w oyin hair dew & avocado oil ,hair is clipped up into bear claw everyday for work, wrap hair in satin scarf for bed, half wigs for a night out as a cute hairstyle, search & destroy & dust rough thinning ends as needed.
  5. What do you plan on changing (if anything) to make it to APL/BSL? I want to do more scalp massages, find more products for my low & high porosity hair ( i have both in different sections), stretch my relaxer longer (i have gone to 17 weeks but i had some breakage & overprocessing bc of my stylist leaving it on too long), i will be self relaxing this next retouch & testing a different relaxer (mizani for fine color treated NOT butter blends just the regular), doing a big trim on the damaged thinner ends,take my hair skin nails vitamin more consistently, eat healthier, drink more water,& start exercising
  6. Post a beginning picture
Scheduled Updates
I did love Mizani BB mild when I was relaxed. Be careful of the switch to new relaxer. Are you going lye or no lye? I didn't know the difference when I switched and I believe it was my undoing. Good luck and welcoming ome.
 
Last edited:
I did love Mizani BB mild when I was relaxed. Be careful of the switch to new relaxer. Are you going lye or no lye? I didn't know the difference when I switched and I believe it was my undoing. Good luck and welcoming ome.
Thank you! Im going lye because the last no lye really dried my hair out bad. Im going to do a strand test on my shed hairs a couple weeks prior to, just to see how it takes
 
I
i think im still recovering from protein overload or something..m hair is DRYYYYYY. im facing a big set back.ive lost hair. its breaking breakingbreaking.ive been deep conditionning since 3 weeks now :-/

i got so mad i flat ironned today......BREAKAGE! so i hated the ends and started trimming again (last trim 3 weeks ago)... and i trimmed too much on one side.
its just making me wanna CHOP this hair. i am annoyed.

apl wont be this summer.... i am sooo fustrated right now.
View attachment 349011

Ma'am! Ma'am! Step away from the scissors. Stop!drop! And roll! Just say no!

Sorry I didn't read every post yet but this one. Have you tried an acv rinse? Neutralizing shampoo? A lot of you may think that is harsh, but my hair loves it. Protein, it hates. Then, baggy every night for like 5 days.

You can baggy with straight hair! You don't have to put a ton of product on. Just a little. Then don't put it on again, but still baggy. It will work.

I'd forget about it being straight right now to curb the breakage. At least that is one thing I wish I would have done when I had my hair breaking/compulsive chopping cycle. When you curb the breaking, you can get it straightened again and went feel so frustrated.
 
Last edited:
Thank you @long.hair.dont.care ! I am reminded that diligence is key....must make time to do my hair to keep it healthy. I sectioned it off into 6 sections. Saturated each with aloe vera gel mixed with wheatgerm oil. Then covered each section with warmed coconut oil.

That is so true @gvin89, gotta care for our hair like its a baby.
I probably going try your pre-poo mix this weekend. I've been looking for a way to incorporate an oil with ceramides into my regimen. Thanks for sharing!


Was looking back over my calendar notes regarding my hair last year. I noticed that my hair was looking it's best when I was washing up to 3x a week so in an attempt to up my wet sessions, I clay washed my hair last night. I wanna stay on top of it feeling and looking good.

Sweet! Im a fan of bentonite clay. Which clay(s) have you used? @AbsyBlvd


i alreayd made the silly mistake then it all straightened. Oh my. I will try baggying but not yet as it is straight

Its all good @coolsista-paris, I think I understand why you did it.. sometimes its easier to see where the problem areas are when your hair is straight or stretched. I bet your hair is resilient to heat. How often do you straighten it? I agree with @traceedeebee, the LCO has been a blessing for moisturizing. Do you have an idea of how you'll style your hair once you have found the ideal moisturizer ?


Ordered some new products to try so I can get excited about hair again.
I'm still trying to get used to twisting my hair at night.

Ooou! What products did you buy? @PlainJane
 
Back
Top