2013 Relaxed Hair Buddy Thread

[hnntrr]

hnntrr
I have never tried a protein conditioner in my pre poo. I have been so scared of a protein overload also. Now seeing that you are subject to them too and you are ok I may have to try. What protein conditioner did you use?

I used healthysexyhair soy milk conditioner, I used the travel sized (I just saw it in CVS and it was 2 bucks to I grabbed it) one so I think this is the full bottle equivalent. It turned out really good, it seems like it has a good mix of protein AND moisture so I didnt get a overload at all...and using coconut oil gave me the extra protein boost....: http://www.sexyhair.com/products/healthysoy/index.aspx?p=eed3ded9-75ed-4788-895d-603b73babafb....it may also be equivalent to this http://www.sexyhair.com/products/healthysoy/index.aspx?p=c39cc5ff-f52a-4726-ab5e-1d992f3ed47a ...not sure but I am Def buying the full bottle of one of these...probably the latter.

 

[Babygrowth]

Buddies thinking alike I would do mine myself but my 2 little ones are keeping me especially busy right now. A friend of mine who does a really good job is gonna do them for me since she's off tomorrow.

Girl, I was gonna ask my friend to but btwn school and hr son its hard! Lol! Plus I wanna test myself. I'm not one of those girls that's been doing her hair all her life! Lol! I'm the girl that would go to the salon for everything!!! Wish me luck! I found a youtube tutorial I like so maybe it will work for me...


ETA: my 10month old will not let me braid my hair!!! He's getting over a cold and super clingy! Lol! Idk what to do. I'm tired of cornrows and wigs... maybe I can try to stay up overnight and do them... i'd much rather sleep...

 

[SunySydeofLyfe]

I've been keeping my hair tucked under wigs during the day and in a bonnet at night. M&S every other day and DCing x2 a week. My new growth is crazy thick but keeping it moist helps. I can only detangle on wash days but I'm maintaining

I'm ready to give in. My hair is a HAM...

Suny

 

[Sholapie]

I just relaxed Friday.

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Hi, hope you don't mind me butting in I have been looking for a buddy this thread, I last relaxed on 14th Feb. How long do you plan on stretching?

 

[Kim0105]

Girl, I was gonna ask my friend to but btwn school and hr son its hard! Lol! Plus I wanna test myself. I'm not one of those girls that's been doing her hair all her life! Lol! I'm the girl that would go to the salon for everything!!! Wish me luck! I found a youtube tutorial I like so maybe it will work for me...

ETA: my 10month old will not let me braid my hair!!! He's getting over a cold and super clingy! Lol! Idk what to do. I'm tired of cornrows and wigs... maybe I can try to stay up overnight and do them... i'd much rather sleep...

I have a 9 month old son I had to cold turkey wean as he wanted to nuse all night. That meant no sleep for me. Made it almost impossible to keep up with my 2.5 year old daughter. I wanted to go a year like I did with my daughter but I have come to grips that I couldn't have the rest of my family falling by the side. He's fine and as happy as can be once he adjusted.

 

[Babygrowth]

I have a 9 month old son I had to cold turkey wean as he wanted to nuse all night. That meant no sleep for me. Made it almost impossible to keep up with my 2.5 year old daughter. I wanted to go a year like I did with my daughter but I have come to grips that I couldn't have the rest of my family falling by the side. He's fine and as happy as can be once he adjusted.

He only nurses maybe 3x a night and we cosleep so it makes a huge difference but it will take me a week to finish those braids! I just learned how to braid so I'm super slow... oh well

 

[Nix08]

How's team 18 Weeks doing? Well I hope I am...I'm so excited about this stretch. I had given up my goal of being a 16 week stretcher but I think I may just be able to do it with this regimen

 

[Mande30]

hnntrr klsjackson mschristine

Why do I have a protein overload on my NG and not my length SMH ......... have you ever heard of such a mess.......

I apply my DC to my new growth like applying a relaxer. Well, I added some Mane N Tail to my Humecto. Figured I needed a light protein. My first mind told me not to apply that protein to my new growth, but I second guessed myself and convinced myself that my line of demarcation needed strength.........Live and Learn!!!!

I will be glad when this "trial and error" is over and I can establish a routine.

 

[hnntrr]

hnntrr klsjackson mschristine

Why do I have a protein overload on my NG and not my length SMH ......... have you ever heard of such a mess.......

I apply my DC to my new growth like applying a relaxer. Well, I added some Mane N Tail to my Humecto. Figured I needed a light protein. My first mind told me not to apply that protein to my new growth, but I second guessed myself and convinced myself that my line of demarcation needed strength.........Live and Learn!!!!

I will be glad when this "trial and error" is over and I can establish a routine.

Werid. I have the exact opposite problem. My NG is fine but my length HATES it (but I only have about an inch or so of NG so I dunno..and the length is relaxed...which you would think needs MORE protein but i digress) maybe its your application? If your doing it how you do a relaxer (section at a time and even smaller sections the DC could be sitting on that area longer than it needs to? Are there specific area's the NG feels that way as apposed to other areas? Or is there a way to apply it to a large section and comb it through instead of letting it set on your scalp? I dunk, maybe those things will help maybe not.

 

[Mande30]

Werid. I have the exact opposite problem. My NG is fine but my length HATES it (but I only have about an inch or so of NG so I dunno..and the length is relaxed...which you would think needs MORE protein but i digress) maybe its your application? If your doing it how you do a relaxer (section at a time and even smaller sections the DC could be sitting on that area longer than it needs to? Are there specific area's the NG feels that way as apposed to other areas? Or is there a way to apply it to a large section and comb it through instead of letting it set on your scalp? I dunk, maybe those things will help maybe not.

I'm just never putting protein directly on my NG again. I should have listened to my "first mind".

 

[klsjackson]

@hnntrr @klsjackson @mschristine

Why do I have a protein overload on my NG and not my length SMH ......... have you ever heard of such a mess.......

I apply my DC to my new growth like applying a relaxer. Well, I added some Mane N Tail to my Humecto. Figured I needed a light protein. My first mind told me not to apply that protein to my new growth, but I second guessed myself and convinced myself that my line of demarcation needed strength.........Live and Learn!!!!

I will be glad when this "trial and error" is over and I can establish a routine.

Mande30 (hnntrr mschristine)
Honey, I learned the hard way about Mane N Tail!!! I can't use any of their products. I really loved the detangler, but he cones left my head a hot mess once it was dry. If you do apply protein to the new growth, just be sure to use a serious moisturizer afterwards and leave the moisturizer on at least twice as long as you left on the protein. And use a leave in moisturizer. That is what works for me. I'm 8 weeks post officially today and I will do a protein treatment this weekend. I will either use DuoTex (love this stuff!) or Affirm 5n1, but I will definitely follow up with Humecto or Nairobi Humectisil. Hopefully, it won't take as long for your trial and error as it did for me. It took about 9 months for me to establish a regimen and routine that yielded the results I desired.

 

[freckledface]

Just wanted to pop in with a question. You ladies are advising to not use protein on your new growth but do yall do a 2step or any hardcore protein before you relax?

 

[Nix08]

freckledface Starting with my last relaxer, 9 weeks ago, I only put moisturizing conditioners on my new growth and protein on the length of my hair and that included my protein DC just before my touch up. It prevented me from becoming underprocessed as I use a lot of protein in my regimen and now it's helping keep my ng moisturized.

 

[freckledface]

Nix08 thanks for answering my question. I noticed that my hair was easier to manage when I skipped the hardcore protein treatment before my relaxer but I was too scared to try again. I'm gonna try what you size next time.

 

[Babygrowth]

freckledface Starting with my last relaxer, 9 weeks ago, I only put moisturizing conditioners on my new growth and protein on the length of my hair and that included my protein DC just before my touch up. It prevented me from becoming underprocessed as I use a lot of protein in my regimen and now it's helping keep my ng moisturized.

I need to start doing this instead of rushing through and only focusing on my ends... my NG always feels dry when I finish airdrying until I moisturize it... I bet this will help my shedding too...

 

[Mande30]

@Mande30 (@hnntrr @mschristine)
Honey, I learned the hard way about Mane N Tail!!! I can't use any of their products. I really loved the detangler, but he cones left my head a hot mess once it was dry. If you do apply protein to the new growth, just be sure to use a serious moisturizer afterwards and leave the moisturizer on at least twice as long as you left on the protein. And use a leave in moisturizer. That is what works for me. I'm 8 weeks post officially today and I will do a protein treatment this weekend. I will either use DuoTex (love this stuff!) or Affirm 5n1, but I will definitely follow up with Humecto or Nairobi Humectisil. Hopefully, it won't take as long for your trial and error as it did for me. It took about 9 months for me to establish a regimen and routine that yielded the results I desired.

@hnntrr mschristine @klsjackson
Upon further investigation, I have a protein overload on my entire head, not just the new growth. When I did a protein treatment last month I used Aphogee 2 minute. I only left it on for 2 -3 minutes. My hair was fine. I left this Mane n Tail, mixed with my Humecto, on for 40 minutes, with heat.

Lesson Learned- I cannot DC with a protein. I can only leave protein on my hair for a few minutes to get the job done.

Lesson #2- Coconut oil has been the TRUTH for me when it comes to preventing protein loss. (I have to lay off of it for a few days while I recover)

 

[klsjackson]

@hnntrr @mschristine @klsjackson
Upon further investigation, I have a protein overload on my entire head, not just the new growth. When I did a protein treatment last month I used Aphogee 2 minute. I only left it on for 2 -3 minutes. My hair was fine. I left this Mane n Tail, mixed with my Humecto, on for 40 minutes, with heat.

Lesson Learned- I cannot DC with a protein. I can only leave protein on my hair for a few minutes to get the job done.

Lesson #2- Coconut oil has been the TRUTH for me when it comes to preventing protein loss. (I have to lay off of it for a few days while I recover)

Mande30
I rarely use coconut oil any more. That combined with some other things at the start of my journey had my hair very dry and very tangled. I do love EVCO, but I don't use it every wash day like I did in the past. I have replaced it with Grapeseed oil and Avocado oil.

 

[Nix08]

Babygrowth I honestly just started doing this and it makes a world of difference. I only really started doing it as I reach about 4 weeks post. Plus I mainly do it when I'm doing a steam treatment.

 

[Mande30]

@Mande30
I rarely use coconut oil any more. That combined with some other things at the start of my journey had my hair very dry and very tangled. I do love EVCO, but I don't use it every wash day like I did in the past. I have replaced it with Grapeseed oil and Avocado oil.

klsjackson hnntrr mschristine
I have heard this about EVCO from a few people. But it has done very well on my hair. I do try to use ceramide oils sometimes.

I also wanted to report that I tried cowashing again (because of the protein overload) for the second time. I used Tresseme Naturals this time (no cones or EDTA) and I am rather pleased. I think that this will be a "once a week" thing. But I will still have my regular wash day.

 

[Mande30]

@Nix08 thanks for answering my question. I noticed that my hair was easier to manage when I skipped the hardcore protein treatment before my relaxer but I was too scared to try again. I'm gonna try what you size next time.

freckledface I am so glad you said this. I was going to do a heavier protein treatment before my relaxer (because everyone advises that you should), but the last thing that I need is for my first self relax to be hard to manage.

 

[KiWiStyle]

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How are my buddies doing? I just made 4 weeks post today and I must say, my NG is coming in pretty nicely!! This weekend I'm going to clarify and do a heavy protein treatment with Aphogee 2-Step. I've been doing the boring one month sock bun mini challenge and I'm so happy to see this month coming to a close. For now on, I'm going to do my mini style challenges in two weeks intervals. Starting March 1st, I'm going to rollerset for 2 weeks and I cannot wait!!

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[Cattypus1]

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yoli184
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How are my buddies doing? I just made 4 weeks post today and I must say, my NG is coming in pretty nicely!! This weekend I'm going to clarify and do a heavy protein treatment with Aphogee 2-Step. I've been doing the boring one month sock bun mini challenge and I'm so happy to see this month coming to a close. For now on, I'm going to do my mini style challenges in two weeks intervals. Starting March 1st, I'm going to rollerset for 2 weeks and I cannot wait!!

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Hey KiWiStyle. I had to give up on the bun challenge two weeks in...my counter says I'm 33 days. I'm back to my twist outs so I'm still PS-ing my way to MBL (hopefully). I can see my silver peeking through. I bought some Rhassoul Clay and did a mask last night on my face and hair--jury is still out. I haven't done a rollerset in years-might have to try one.

 

[hnntrr]

klsjackson mschristine Mande30

Ya'll i dun messed up. I really can not use protein conditioners for anything. Like no reason, unless its in a moisture conditioner. Serious serious protein overload going on over here and its scary. Like a really scary bad horror movie. I know I am going to have nightmare of my hair falling out tonight. -_- pray for me.

 

[klsjackson]

@klsjackson @mschristine @Mande30

Ya'll i dun messed up. I really can not use protein conditioners for anything. Like no reason, unless its in a moisture conditioner. Serious serious protein overload going on over here and its scary. Like a really scary bad horror movie. I know I am going to have nightmare of my hair falling out tonight. -_- pray for me.

hnntrr: I know the feeling, but at least you "know" that you have protein overload and how to correct it: Moisture! Several years ago, I was maintaining my own hair and "thought" I had some breakage, so I used Affirm 5n1 as my DC every week for 30mins!! So you know what happened, snap, crackle and pop! My hair went from APL to SL in a matter of weeks, even worse, I kept using 5n1 (I just didn't know). Finally, I went to the salon to get my hair done and the stylist told me how to use 5n1 and why my hair broke off. I've been cautious of protein ever since. When I started doing my hair again in 2012, I had heard of the wonders of EVCO, but didn't realize that for me it acts like protein, a strong protein, and I was using it every wash, using as an overnight prepoo, so now I only use EVCO once every other month. I have seen a major difference in my hair since I stopped using it and cones.

 

[KiWiStyle]

Hey KiWiStyle. I had to give up on the bun challenge two weeks in...my counter says I'm 33 days. I'm back to my twist outs so I'm still PS-ing my way to MBL (hopefully). I can see my silver peeking through. I bought some Rhassoul Clay and did a mask last night on my face and hair--jury is still out. I haven't done a rollerset in years-might have to try one.

Cattypus1 do you twist on damp, wet or dry hair? I might try a twist out, the last time I tried one, my hair was much shorter and not as thick/dense as it is now. I've come a long way but still not as long as I would like to be. If you're seeing silver already that is great!! I wish I can see mine, I did my henndigo 3 weeks ago. If you try the rollerset, let us know how it turns out.

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[Cattypus1]

Cattypus1 do you twist on damp, wet or dry hair? I might try a twist out, the last time I tried one, my hair was much shorter and not as thick/dense as it is now. I've come a long way but still not as long as I would like to be. If you're seeing silver already that is great!! I wish I can see mine, I did my henndigo 3 weeks ago. If you try the rollerset, let us know how it turns out.

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I have been twisting on damp hair. I used to do it on soaking wet hair but it took forever to dry and turned out really stiff (probably a combination of e products and the soaking wet hair). I use larger parts and I no longer do flat-twists and I use straws on the ends. It turns out soft and lasts about 5 days with pineappling (is that a word?...LOL) at night. The only thing that makes me hesitate on the rollerset is no dryer. I don't have any idea how long it will take me to dry and I don't want to have a grandma do when I'm done-LOL. What kind of tea did you buy?

 

[KiWiStyle]

I have been twisting on damp hair. I used to do it on soaking wet hair but it took forever to dry and turned out really stiff (probably a combination of e products and the soaking wet hair). I use larger parts and I no longer do flat-twists and I use straws on the ends. It turns out soft and lasts about 5 days with pineappling (is that a word?...LOL) at night. The only thing that makes me hesitate on the rollerset is no dryer. I don't have any idea how long it will take me to dry and I don't want to have a grandma do when I'm done-LOL. What kind of tea did you buy?

LOL, pineappling!!!! No that's only a word on LHCF, anywhere else and you'll risk sounding crazy but I know what you mean. I started roller setting in early 2012 with my dryer from LCL, it took way more time than I was comfortable with and it still didn't dry completely. I traded up for a pibbs Kwik Dri back in December...girl BYE!! My hair dries in 20-25 minutes!! Now if only I can cut my rolling time from 1 hour to 30 minutes =-/

I posted the tea I used in the BSL challenge, it's by Mighty Leaf and Whole Foods sells it.

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[Mande30]

@klsjackson @mschristine @Mande30

Ya'll i dun messed up. I really can not use protein conditioners for anything. Like no reason, unless its in a moisture conditioner. Serious serious protein overload going on over here and its scary. Like a really scary bad horror movie. I know I am going to have nightmare of my hair falling out tonight. -_- pray for me.

hnntrr What is it with Team March and protein overload? Protein is like the plague....

 

[mschristine]

hnntrr What is it with Team March and protein overload? Protein is like the plague....

It is! I have 3 more weeks and I cannot wait to relax and break up some this protein overload madness.

 

[Evolving78]

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yoli184
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Cattypus1
shortdub78

How are my buddies doing? I just made 4 weeks post today and I must say, my NG is coming in pretty nicely!! This weekend I'm going to clarify and do a heavy protein treatment with Aphogee 2-Step. I've been doing the boring one month sock bun mini challenge and I'm so happy to see this month coming to a close. For now on, I'm going to do my mini style challenges in two weeks intervals. Starting March 1st, I'm going to rollerset for 2 weeks and I cannot wait!!

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i'm doing alright. 5 weeks and 6 days post right now. i have really kept breakage under control. i mean, i still get deal with it, but it very minimal. i am still trying to figure out what to do with my hair for this coming month. i plan on washing/dc'ing and curling my hair today. my new growth is doing alright so far. i think it has a lot to do with the conditioners i am using. plus, i am deep conditioning my every three days.