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I couldn't tell you because I don't let anyone but myself straighten my hair, but I presume that they're accustomed to lower temperatures and less passes to straighten hair, which doesn't work on us.

Also, if they're not used to seeing how straight our hair can get, they're not going to question how and why black stylists can get it straighter.

That said, for the record, Lucky's Mom you are the BOMB!!!! I am in the process of flat-ironing my hair, and this FHI Runway is the bomb-diggity :woot:. Just puttin it out there, worth every penny :grin:!
 
I'm 4z so I wouldn't have any expectation that certain hairstylists would know what to do with my hair, but I'm not singing any songs about the way black stylists have done my hair either.
 
Isonly that they don't have the experience, they think the same procedures for 2b is gonna work fine for a 4a. I don't know if it happend to you, but they can not even give me a nice haircut (short with style) they leave the hair with no volume at all. I preffer not to go those places anymore.
 
I had mine done my class reunion at ULTA because I'd has a sew in done, that I hated and I took it down the night before our mixer. So i stoped at a random ULTA and the nicest white girl trimmed and straighteded my hair. She did a great job and it was very very straight. She used Redken Smooth Down and another Redken product straightening product. She blew it dry with a round brush and CHI dryer, then flat ironed it with Smooth Down's strightening spray. I was very happy with the results. And she said she's never done ethnic hair before but she just did what she would do on anyone with curly hair. Here a a pic after sweating in a hot *** club for a few hours. I'm in the pink dress.

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Isonly that they don't have the experience, they think the same procedures for 2b is gonna work fine for a 4a. I don't know if it happend to you, but they can not even give me a nice haircut (short with style) they leave the hair with no volume at all. I preffer not to go those places anymore.

Yeah I agree . my stylist even told me before she started "I've never worked with hair as tightly curled as yours before"... :/
 
It's technique. They don't use the right technique to get our hair straight. It's also a lack of knowledge and experience about our hair types. I'm sure she thinks she did a great job but she has no idea that what she does to caucasian type hair to straighten won't necessarily work on kinkier hair textures.
 
Yeah I agree . my stylist even told me before she started "I've never worked with hair as tightly curled as yours before"... :/


That's when you should have got up, thanked her for her time, and then left.

Anyways I am more worried about your piece of hair you said is staying straight. Has it curled back up yet?
 
When I went to get my free Kerastase treatment - a white guy did my hair and we discussed the aspects of doing ethnic hair and his answer to me was "hair is hair"...if one is to become a stylist then they should not be limited in the types of hair and that it's straight technique and knowledge....he got my hair so straight and it was so full of body, it looked like I got a fresh relaxer...
 
I onl had my hair done by a white person once and she did a better job than some black stylist that had done my hair.
 
I've never let a non-black person do my hair. However, I have gotten worse results from Black stylist. If I can get my hair pin straight with a maxiglide why can't a professional black stylist do the same with a chi. It is definitely technique. A good stylist can do all hair.
 
That's when you should have got up, thanked her for her time, and then left.

Anyways I am more worried about your piece of hair you said is staying straight. Has it curled back up yet?

nope its still a silky-wavy texture, even after I've wet it. The stylist last night even told me "a piece of your weave is still in" and then she found out that was my hair that had been pressed. Is that bad for the hair to stay straight that long or something? Iwas told that the caramel treatment lasts for up to 4 weeks though?
 
I don't let white stylists straighten my hair or use any hot tools on my hair. I do however let them trim my hair, once I have already straightened. I actually prefer them for trims and cuts.
 
I visited non-ethnic salons a total of 4 times since joining (my only salon visits). And on three of those visits, the stylists did a PHENOMENAl job. My hair was straight, with bounce, volume, body, and shine. That was at an Aveda lifestyle salon. I went to Mastercuts because I needed my hair straightened immediately for a special occassion and the stylist was horrible. I ended up straightening my hair myself while she sat and watched. She kept making excuses about why she couldn't get it straight, but really she wasn't trying (if you ask me).

So, I guess it depends on the stylist and their training.
 
I went to a white stylists once and he kept saying "your hair is so different than your cousins", he was her regular stylists. My hair looked ok and it was only semi straight. About 30 seconds after I stepped outside every curl he gave me was gone. Needless to say I never went back.
 
I must strongly disagree. I think it all has to do with the technique that one uses. I went to a beauty school and the stylist that did my hair was on point. Because it was a beauty school they are limited on what products they can use so she sprayed heat protectant on my hair and that was it. Instead of trying to burn my hair straight, she was able to get straight with a regular flat-iron and a fine toothed comb in one pass. My daughter has thick 4a natural midback hair and using this technique I can get her hair almost bone straight without damage.
 
I've had a good white stylist at Barry Fletcher's salon in DC. I've had bad stylists, too - white and black. I wouldn't expect a white salon to know how to style black hair the way way we want. Neither can many black stylists.

The moral: get a referral. No walking in to some salon without knowing the quality of their work.
 
nope its still a silky-wavy texture, even after I've wet it. The stylist last night even told me "a piece of your weave is still in" and then she found out that was my hair that had been pressed. Is that bad for the hair to stay straight that long or something? Iwas told that the caramel treatment lasts for up to 4 weeks though?

I don't know how long a caramel treatment is supposed to last, but there is nothing in those ingredients that should last for 4 weeks, IMO. If my hair doesn't revert immediately, I'm gonna be an angry woman!
 
I don't let white stylists straighten my hair or use any hot tools on my hair. I do however let them trim my hair, once I have already straightened. I actually prefer them for trims and cuts.

Exactly or relax my hair. My white stylist are great for my trims. If I ask for half an inch off that's what they cut and no more. They understand the concept of a trim; something the black stylist act like they don't understand.
 
my experience with them are bad to. i knowwwwww my kink'dtafied hair can get straight if managed properly. i'm ALWAYS finding myself telling them i'm not tender headed and my head won't fall off it you put some elbow grease when poo 'n co and combing my hair. plz don't ripped through my hair like it's 1a straight but do comb it like it's real. my napps don't snap at your fingers and if i do prefer a blowout.....light heat with a diffuser or concentrator won't get it straight. what's the point of having high end products if you refuse to put them to work. i guess this is why i don't let just anyone in my hair.
and with hair cuts...i always find myself at home correcting they're mistakes.

but then again i'm usually either relaxed or in between relaxers.....it shouldn't never be that difficult.

a little ot rant: so i remember getting my hair braided by an african woman...from togo i believe. well, she started snatching my hair b/c i refused to relaxed my hair. if i relaxed my hair...in her books, braiding my hair would be more desirable to her standards.
i haven't been back since!
 
I don't do salons anymore, but I've never had a white person "do" my hair. I wouldn't really expect a non-ethnic salon would be able to do ETHNIC hair very well.
 
When I get my hair straightened, i got to a predominantly white salon in nyc and my stylist is Chinese. My hair comes out so straight with alot of body and bounce from just the blowdryer and i'm 7 months post. It really is the technique.
 
It's about technique and experience with a variety of hair types. I've gone to black stylist to get my hair straight and one of two things would happen.

It would get really straight and stay that way for a min of 7 days to almost two weeks. But once washed I had heat damage and had to cut off the straight ends.

Or, I would get it straightened and as soon as I hit the door, the hair is puffed up again.

I went to a white salon that straigtened and cut my hair. The cut was great but my hair was not as straight as it could get BUT it had lots of body and swang AND it stayed straight for two weeks. Go figure

I've had black stylist look at me like Lobsters were crawling out of my ears when they see my natural hair and some who just don't know how to press hair at all.

I think its all about technique and experience. Find someone with a good balance of both and you've got a great stylist.
 
i go to a "white" salon when I cut my hair but my stylist is black and she's amazing! The only problem is when the stylist is busy and she has another person wash my hair they just wash it for 2 seconds and don't do any scrubbing. My hair is thick and it needs to be manhandled! I have to tell them to wash it like 5 times and to not be afraid of it. Like c'mon!!

Once I went to the same salon in a different location and I had a white girl cut and blow out my hair.. she straightened it well but the cut was ****. HORRIBLE! NEVER AGAIN!
This is why i don't like change and whenever I get my hair cut I will go to my regular stylist.
 
I've never gotten my hair pressed but from what i understand it's not good that your hair isn't reverting back, even after cowashing it 3 - 4 times. sounds like heat damage. sounds like both stylists you went to did a good job at straightening; maybe next time you should incorporate an anti humectant product, like sabino moisture block, or aveda's anti humectant pomade, to make the press last longer, but still get your natural curl back after washing.
 
I don't care if I'm racist or sexist, I will never let a white person touch my hair again. I've had 2 really bad experiences with white stylist who claim to know how to do "ethnic/black hair". Yeah right, never again. And I haven't been to a salon in almost 3 years but I also know next time I find a stylist I want him to be a man. Because I've always had great results when black men do my hair.
 
my bff only trusts her touchups, trims and blowouts to a white stylist. the lady she goes to has been doing her hair since she was a child...not only is she very good, but she is super inexpensive too. matter of fact...i need to make an appointment with her!
 
I have had 2 white stylists and I may sound racist but I haven't found a black stylist who gets my hair like that. I was amazed at how both of those stylist not only got my hair straight, but it was still full of volume, had major swing, and my ends were so crisp and straight from the trims. My hair flourished going to these stylist. They all said they grew up do AA hair so they know what to and what not to do. They even insisted on me to stop texturizing my hair.
I have gone to black stylists and had nothing short of breakdowns every time. The amount of product left my hair immobile and greasy looking and my style would not last.Or I would come out with 5 inches of hair lopped off because "I needed it." I've gotten Dominican blowouts but the heat left my hair severely damaged.
I will say I am not against going to black stylist or any other...I just haven't found a good one.
 
nope its still a silky-wavy texture, even after I've wet it. The stylist last night even told me "a piece of your weave is still in" and then she found out that was my hair that had been pressed. Is that bad for the hair to stay straight that long or something? Iwas told that the caramel treatment lasts for up to 4 weeks though?

I am not familiar with this treatment. I say up your moisture and baby that area and hope for the best...but I think it may be damaged.
 
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