According to Ateyaa

[hairsothick]

I like her "swang," but I don't take any of her advice about hair. She does what she does because it works for her.

And I agree, if your hair is healthy, then it will hold a curl.

 

[soulie]

I'm relaxed with healthy hair and my hair curls very easily - if I just curl it under with my fingers when it's wet, and secure it with GHD pins, I get a really nice curly ponytail when it dries. When I roller set I don't use any type of setting lotion/gel/stuff and I get curls that last. Perhaps the lack of curl-ability is from overprocessing?

 

[MochaEyeCandy]

I'm relaxed with healthy hair and my hair curls very easily - if I just curl it under with my fingers when it's wet, and secure it with GHD pins, I get a really nice curly ponytail when it dries. When I roller set I don't use any type of setting lotion/gel/stuff and I get curls that last. Perhaps the lack of curl-ability is from overprocessing?

B-I-N-G-O! I don't use anything to set my relaxed hair either, and my curls would last until my next wash.

 

[LiberianGirl]

Her hair looks rather healthy to me and she uses protein regularly. Perhaps it's her curling method and that her hair is very fine.

 

[curlcomplexity]

I'm going to test ths out w/ a curling iron if I can find one. I curl my hair w/ Caruso rollers...

 

[clever]

Are we talking about "setting" the hair on rollers or using the curling iron?
...if we are talking about curling irons...I noticed when I don't leave a ton of body in my hair it doesn't curl as easy as it does when I leave lots of body.
I do agree with damaged hair not holding a curl also.

 

[Hot40]

I had never heard that befor?????

 

[*closer*2*my*dreams*]

I was kind of worried too...my rollersets last only a day...but i THINK i can blame that on the humidity...

 

[Iluvsmuhgrass]

My hair is fine and falls flat. I have no splits and it's pretty healthy but I have to either wet set, bantu knot it after washing and lightly blow dry it or use holding spray (if I'm using a curling iron... I don't do this any more because I just hate curling irons.) I love moisture because my hair thrives with it, unfortunately many things weigh my hair down.


Slightly OT.... I used my Remington rollers

and when I took it down it was soooooo cute. I put my hair in a soft curly side poof and you could NOT tell me that I wasn't cute. Y'all when I say that I had enough time to leave the house, get to school, then get to class before that puppy fell flat.... I'm not even joking. I went to the ladies room and my curls were on Valiums. I just did a cute updo with my ends tucked in and called it a day. I was kinda sad because it was really cute! *sigh*

 

[ThePerfectScore]

My mom always said Clean hair doesn't hold a curl. Which is true since a lot of stylist say don't wash your hair before an up do...or if u want her style to hold.

 

[Keshieshimmer]

Yall please be respectful. While her methods contradict a lot of our practices, it works for her and she is just trying to help.

Thanks! Some musta went to the store to buy some hateraide. I haven't watched this particular video but usually on her hair videos she makes a point to say this is what works for HER hair.

 

[peaceluvnhairgrease]

We are just talking about with a curling iron..not a rollerset. I have never seen Ateya do a rollerset, EVER!

 

[Qualitee]

how long should a curl be held for your hair to be healthy?

 

[Carrie A]

I'm relaxed with healthy hair and my hair curls very easily - if I just curl it under with my fingers when it's wet, and secure it with GHD pins, I get a really nice curly ponytail when it dries. When I roller set I don't use any type of setting lotion/gel/stuff and I get curls that last. Perhaps the lack of curl-ability is from overprocessing?

People who have very straight hair in general have difficulty holding a curl. Prince said it best "Don't you know your straight hair ain't got no curl. Noooo curl."

Ateyya is as cute as a button and I love her personality but her hair is over processed. She relaxes bone bone straight frequently, then uses a lot of protein to build it back up. This is the look she wants. She also wraps her hair. So I don't expect it to hold much curl. I can't speak to whether it's "healthy" or not, it's just too straight to hold a good curl.

 

[lovenharmony]

Um, why would our hair be healthier if it was doing the total opposite of what our natural hair growing out our scalp wants to do, which is CURL? Maybe what she meant was that the longer it gets, the more difficult it becomes for our hair to hold a curl because of the added weight? That makes more sense to me. Moreover, she would only be talking to people with relaxed heads because naturals don't have these issues in any circumstance. I've seen many naturals on this board that have BSL hair and beyond but have so much shrinkage that the only way to see the length is to press or flat iron it because it's so curly!

Healthy hair has tensile strength and elasticity, and those with a hair texture of 3A and above have hair that naturally curls with or without the assistance of heat. The only hair that naturally doesn't hold a curl are 2A and below thick hair types, which doesn't apply to most of us on this hair board.

 

[cmw45]

I don't know about healthy vs. damaged. All I know is that my 4a hair in the front of my head holds a curl just fine but that I can't get the 3c hair in the back to hold a curl for anything if I am using heat. The 3c hair also straightens much faster and I have to use less heat on it so I am going to assume that this has something to do with texture.

 

[Makenzie]

No.

One of the classic signs of damaged hair is hair that won't hold a curl. If your hair won't hold a curl, your elasticity is shot to hell. Your hydrogen and salt bonds at that point are extremely compromised from having damaged hair. The cuticle probably has lots of chips in it and in some cases, the cortex is probably exposed. In order to realign these bonds you need acidifying treatments and protein. This is why consistent acidifying product usage is important for all hair types since these bonds collectively hold 2/3rds of your strength and elasticity. This is even more important for the fine hair heads.

If you chronically over moisturize your hair, you can also notice a decrease curl holding abilities.

My hair, although healthy, does not hold a curl well unless its a rod/roller set. I've done protein treatments, but not consistently. Will have to try this.

 

[*Michelle*]

No.

One of the classic signs of damaged hair is hair that won't hold a curl. If your hair won't hold a curl, your elasticity is shot to hell. Your hydrogen and salt bonds at that point are extremely compromised from having damaged hair. The cuticle probably has lots of chips in it and in some cases, the cortex is probably exposed. In order to realign these bonds you need acidifying treatments and protein. This is why consistent acidifying product usage is important for all hair types since these bonds collectively hold 2/3rds of your strength and elasticity. This is even more important for the fine hair heads.

If you chronically over moisturize your hair, you can also notice a decrease curl holding abilities.

This is EXACTLY right!

I watched part of one of her videos, her hair appears to be nice...but it would be interesting to see her wet hair as well as know the elasticity of her hair as elasticity is what dictates your hair's ability to hold curl!. If you relax bone straight and def bone, bone straight (as someone said) odds are REALLY high the strands will have little to NO elasticity.

Her voice annoys me and regimen doesn't have a "t" in it. Sorry for the pet peeve vent.

She is lively and tries to use humor I could see how some would be drawn to her. But I'm not.

 

[pookaloo83]

This is EXACTLY right!

I watched part of one of her videos, her hair appears to be nice...but it would be interesting to see her wet hair as well as know the elasticity of her hair as elasticity is what dictates your hair's ability to hold curl!. If you relax bone straight and def bone, bone straight (as someone said) odds are REALLY high the strands will have little to NO elasticity.

Her voice annoys me and regimen doesn't have a "t" in it. Sorry for the pet peeve vent.

She is lively and tries to use humor I could see how some would be drawn to her. But I'm not.

 

[bella gee]

My mom always said Clean hair doesn't hold a curl. Which is true since a lot of stylist say don't wash your hair before an up do...or if u want her style to hold.

Im natural and when I straighten my hair and curl it the curls do not hold, they fall within 2hrs. And I do believe it is because my hair is clean, because if I curl my hair at the end of the week (5 days post-wash) the curls will hold better.

 

[sherann]

People who have very straight hair in general have difficulty holding a curl. Prince said it best "Don't you know your straight hair ain't got no curl. Noooo curl."

Ateyya is as cute as a button and I love her personality but her hair is over processed. She relaxes bone bone straight frequently, then using a lot of protein to build it back up. This is the look she wants. She also wraps her hair. So I don't expect it to hold much curl. I can't speak to whether it's "healthy" or not, it's just too straight to hold a good curl.

I agree with the bolded. Her hair looks healthy to me. Her hair is not holding a curl because it is very straight and the longer (and heavier) her hair gets, the less it will keep a curl.

 

[heyfranz]

Not being able to hold a curl is the first sign for me that my hair is damaged. This happens even before i start losing my hair.

 

[brownelovely]

Thanks! Some musta went to the store to buy some hateraide. I haven't watched this particular video but usually on her hair videos she makes a point to say this is what works for HER hair.

Having an opinion doesn't equal hating, or does it?

I love her videos most of the time! The infomercials are the ones I can live without. However, no one has called any names so I don't think anyone is sipping anything today.....

 

[Tamrin]

Healthy hair holds a curl. Damaged hair does not. I know, I have been there. Personally I don't get the fascination with "Ateyaa's fly hair". She does a lot of reviews thats cool. But I will not be taking her advice on hair care anytime soon. Sorry. I'm not hating. I have gotten better swing from a Dominican blow out. There are better examples here of healthy hair care. Peddling NU something and 1b Indian hair is not healthy hair care. Im sorry. It's just my opinion.

 

[HAIRapy]

I must admit, I do love hair with "swang" I don't know about Ateyaa's swang and how healthy her hair really is. I do know that when my hair is freshly washed and flat ironed or when I just came out of the hair shop, I have that swang and my curls and "swang" lasts for DAYS (until I mess it up from playing in it and sleeping on it) and I think my relaxed hair is pretty healthy. I LOVE swang.

I can also say that whatever she's doing to her hair, it's growing and it LOOKS healthy and shiny to me- which means that she's retaining her growth AND her ends look healthy.

I just want to know, what do yall think she does to her hair that is "dumb"? I can understand the combing with the tiny comb, and the overlapping relaxer- other than that, her technique looks like what a lot of people here do to their own heads- minus the regular trims that she does.

 

[Helpmeblongagain]

I think the opposite is true

 

[audacity.]

 

[ShiShiPooPoo]

Seriously, I know when I need some protein when my hair looks all flyaway and too light and airy. It won't hold a curl to save my life. I wear curlers to work (I get there before anyone else does) to preserve the curl but when I take them out I have curls for all of 15 min. then that is it.

My newfound love is Keratin...what a BIG difference!

 

[SoAnxious12]

I have fine naturally curly hair, and my hair straightens easily.But if i go to curl it with my curling iron w/o product, those curls will fall the minute i'm done.