Are you still considered natural if you texlax?

[msa]

From a Purist standpoint natural is you put nothing on your hair but water or anything else one can forage in nature in it's natural state. Those are far and few. Actually I can think of Aloe Vera Juice but that's about it! None of us wake up, roll out of bed, and go. We all put something on our hair. Many of these things allow us to manipulate our natural hair. For those of us with KANKY hair, we need more help to uncoil the barbed wire. For those with 3 hair or above, it's a different yet equally challenging journey to manipulate and retain growth.

Just playing devil's advocate. I was on the debate team in high school. Just trying to add another point of view.

ooooo then I must be a super natural because most days now (since I'm lazy) I rinse my hair in the shower with water and go on about my day.

 

[Shandell]

Off topic: Wonderstar,Sylver2 and Happilyme your hair is THE TRUTH....natural , relaxed, or texlaxed...whatever you did it becomes you! Beautiful heads of hair.

 

[msdeevee]

Thank you!! A coworker still considers herself natural although she has a texturizer.....just because she only has it done a couple times per year.

I know someone like this too.

I don't understand the confusion, once you apply a chemical to your hair for whatever amount of time that is designed to change the natural texture of your hair you are no longer natural.

 

[Eisani]

3 pages for real?? *checks pulse*

 

[msa]

3 pages for real?? *checks pulse*

It wouldn't be LHCF if we didn't debate things to the death.

 

[*Happily Me*]

Beautiful hair! But it doesn't matter if it looks natural or feels natural. If it has a relaxer/texurizer/or texlaxed then its not natural. Your texlaxed hair may have a tighter pattern than some naturals but they are still natural and you are texlaxed.

I don't mind people using the term texlaxed but if folks are fronting like their natural and they are not then thats just misleading and plain wrong.

And all that 50% natural and like natural is some bull. Cause 4a hair texlaxed is not 3c natural. It may look like it but its not. People just need to be honest and proud about their hair. When I was relaxed I enjoyed my bone straight hair for what it was. I wasn't ashamed of it. Now that I'm natural I enjoy it too and I worked hard to get to the point of letting go of my relaxed ends.

I know. I've said this many times throughout this thread.

 

[*Happily Me*]

ooooo then I must be a super natural because most days now (since I'm lazy) I rinse my hair in the shower with water and go on about my day.

 

[CurliDiva]

I know. I've said this many times throughout this thread.

If the the OP siad that she gets it .........than why is this thread up to 10 pages?

 

[Nonie]

If the the OP siad that she gets it .........than why is this thread up to 10 pages?

I don't think the OP ever said anything after asking the question yesterday evening. Actually she never returned to this thread at all to tell us anything after she asked the question. So we don't know if she gets it.

I think we scared her.

 

[Kneechay]

Consensus says "No, it's not natural" and I agree. I never really understood the percentages either, I figured it meant a part of their heads were texlaxed and the other parts weren't as much, IDK. I'm also just hearing about this baking soda debate. Whenever you use a chemical that permanently changes the texture of your hair, you're no longer natural. I still feel that you're natural if you color your hair. The texture's still the same.

I'm natural and I've had people tell me that since I straighten with heat at times that I am not natural, and one of my friends that's hardcore says that my conditioners have chemicals in them, so I'm not natural. She is like msa, who uses organic and edible products for her hair, but I find it more convenient to use what I use, so to each their own.

 

[ebonylocs]

OP, of course the hair isn't natural.

If you texlax...even for 30 secs...you are not natural anymore.

IMO, there is no difference between texlaxing and relaxing...it's all just relaxing to me. All this "bone straight", "50% straight", "lightly texlaxed", "mostly texlaxed" is just annoying. It's all relaxing and it's all the same.

It's only all the same is you attach some kind of moral / purity value to the terms "relaxed" and "natural". It's definitely not the same if all you are doing is describing a process and it's results.

texturise = use a texturiser to achieve textured hair
texlax = use a relaxer to achieve textured hair
relax = use a relaxer to achieve straight hair

For me, there is a difference, because I don't like my hair completely straight. If LHCFers want to coin some catchy little term to describe a process in shorthand so we know what people are talking about quickly when they say it, then I'm not mad at them. That's what groups of people do - they make up shorthand terms to describe things common to them, it's like developing your own secret language.

I would definitely not call my hair natural, and do not understand why anyone would want to call their hair natural if it's not. Come on, let's grow up and stop trying to "out" non-naturals. Who cares?

 

[msa]

It's only all the same if you attach some kind of moral / purity value to the terms "relaxed" and "natural". It's definitely not the same if all you are doing is describing a process and it's results.

Assigning a moral value to the terms would be a little too deep, even for me.

I do admit that I am a purist on this issue. You can't be a little bit natural or slightly/lightly/kind of relaxed. Either your hair is chemically processed or it isn't chemically processed.

For me, there is a difference, because I don't like my hair completely straight. If LHCFers want to coin some catchy little term to describe a process in shorthand so we know what people are talking about quickly when they say it, then I'm not mad at them. That's what groups of people do - they make up shorthand terms to describe things common to them, it's like developing your own secret language.

I'm cool with whatever people want to come up with to describe their hair. I just said it was annoying TO ME. Why is it annoying? Because there is a word that describes it just fine in my mind: relaxed.

A little bit processed=relaxed
Lightly processed=relaxed
Underprocessed=relaxed
Silkened=relaxed
Loosened=relaxed
Twice a year processed=relaxed
Texturized=relaxed
Texlaxed=relaxed

 

[luxe.li.]

After reading all the responses, I've come to the conclusion that everyone should just worry about their own heads and not others. Because I'm "natural" but I don't use all "natural" products, but yet I'm not telling a texlaxed head their NOT "natural" because it's not that serious.

I got curls, you got curls, I wouldn't tex lax like I said because I'd mess my hair up. But I'm not using clay and spring water in my hair neither....so this whole topic might be a bit flawed.....

 

[BeautifulFlower]

I think describe your 'status' of texturzed, texlax'd, or whatever more describes the PROCESS you use on your hair then YOUR HAIR itself. Even though it all involves using a relaxer, a person that relax bone straight and a person that relax texlax or other will experience different hair challenges.

When trying to guide someone with help on how to correct problems with breakage or dryness or whatever, this information is important.

Bone straight hair (not all) may experience more breakage and split ends and require more frequent trims because more protein bonds have been broken. A texlax head may experience frizziness etc....

We by no means claim 'natural'....hell I relax and I have no problem with relaxers and I have no plans to stop anytime soon. But if I use a PROCESS on my hair and people wanna know what I do to my hair, I'll tell them I do not relax completely straight.

 

[PittiPat]

Why are y'all so angry?

 

[sprungonhairboards]

Why are y'all so angry?

For real!

The funny thing is, not ONE texlaxed person has come in here and claimed to be natural.

 

[Lexib]

In a word: No.