Are you still considered natural if you texlax?

[SignatureBeauty]

I Agree with you MSA!! You know that baking soda would be flying off the shelves!

 

[luxe.li.]

Ok Good for the BS thing I don't really want to be tex laxed right now...I'm not against anything, I was relaxed for most of my life, but I worked to hard to get to where I am now, and I love my natural hair, and its all mines its what I got at birth and no one can take it from me (talking about the corporate world that shuns us kinky curly coily heads), and plus I'd be to scared to even try and tex lax...I'll mess around mess my hair up.

 

[vkb247]

I really hate having this discussion but I thought that it was important to note that BS is a 9 on the ph scale. While most relaxers are a 12, some of the milder ones that ladies often use to texlax can be as low as 9. I think that people should be aware of that when they use BS a lot, but there is not much to worry about if you are not leaving it on your hair for any length of time.

 

[Maynard]

I really dont understand the difference between relaxing and texlaxing. Youre still applying the chemical. Please explain the benefits.

Relaxing and texlaxing are the same thing. No, you are not natural if you apply a chemical.

 

[msa]

I really hate having this discussion but I thought that it was important to note that BS is a 9 on the ph scale. While most relaxers are a 12, some of the milder ones that ladies often use to texlax can be as low as 9. I think that people should be aware of that when they use BS a lot, but there is not much to worry about if you are not leaving it on your hair for any length of time.

Yup, time and concentration matter. I use about a palmful to 16oz of water...so it's not even a paste and it's pretty diluted. And, it's only on long enough for me to scrub my scalp and rinse my hair.

I remember Littlegoldenlamb posting about her usage once and she said her head was on fire but she definitely used more than I ever have.

 

[Crackers Phinn]

I don't understand the anger cuz some folks sounding a lil salty about this.

First off, I fully concede that if you use chemicals to alter the texture of your hair then no you are no longer natural.

But I use the term texlax because I use a relaxer (Affirm) to texturize my hair instead of a texturizer kit (S-Curl or other box that says texturizer on it).

How is using the term texlax helpful?
Because it helps people understand how I can wear a puff yet am still relaxed. I've been relaxed bone straight before and trust that there was no texture to my hair at all. There is a difference in degrees of relaxing just as there are different degrees of hair texture. I don't understand the need to make relaxing into a 'one size fits all' procedure when it's clearly not.

 

[*Happily Me*]

i'm texlaxed but you cannot tell my hair that it's not dayun near natural.

no one believes that i relax my hair...

I'm natural-like

 

[*Happily Me*]

I don't get why people are sooo mad at the term texlax. I texlax because i like long hair and my hair can't take a bone straight process. period. i don't wanna wait 50 gazillion years for my puff to grow.

I love natural hair. I really do. But i like long hair better.

 

[vnaps]

Texlaxing your hair doesnt mean you are natural.....no suprises there.....

BUT

There is a difference between texlaxing and relaxing.....how do i know????

BECAUSE

i have been texlaxing since last year and there is a DEFINATE difference between my two textures (without going through all the nitty gritty's)

AND

i cannot wait to get rid of my relaxed ends.......they are so thin and limp....

 

[Lucky's Mom]

I believe that a texlax is meant to describe someone who has used a chemical relaxer but the chemical is not left on for a long period of time and may be mixed with conditioner or an oil as to not get the hair bone straight.

Texlaxers maintain a good amount of curl when their hair is wet.

This is my understanding. HTH

This is my understanding as well... I would contend that - hair is not in the natural state at this point.

 

[Lucky's Mom]

I think its very misleading that folks run around saying they are half natural, 80% natural, etc.

I've been on some fotkis where I thought they were natural and then after reading their bio and i find out that they are "texlaxed", I get upset and leave the page.

Dont want nothing to do with you unless you natural 100% LOL The in between stuff gives me no inspiration at all.

Whoa!!!!!!!!!!! Dang.... Ok... I feel you girl!



I am natural. I stopped the use of chems ten years ago.... - mostly because it KILLED my hair. It could have been the stylists, it could have been the heat, it could have been the complete lack of moisture on my Tresses ( Like - I remember my hair looking good like 3 or 4 times in 20 years)....

anyway - due to all of those factors.... I will never do a chemical relaxer again... 5 minutes or 20 minutes.

With that being said..... Sour Cream, coconut milk, henna - seem to loosen some hair patterns....
I hope this is not considered " unnatural"

I dunno.... I don't really care... as long as my hair is healthy. I DO care about any Harsh Chem that could break those disulfide bonds and thin my hair out....

 

[Lucky's Mom]

I really hate having this discussion but I thought that it was important to note that BS is a 9 on the ph scale. While most relaxers are a 12, some of the milder ones that ladies often use to texlax can be as low as 9. I think that people should be aware of that when they use BS a lot, but there is not much to worry about if you are not leaving it on your hair for any length of time.

thanks for mentioning this... There is a member here that did experiment with loosening texture with BS paste. I don't remember any results or who it was though....

 

[*Happily Me*]

I personally don't like the use of the term natural to describe hair that's not relaxed. People walking round claiming natural because they don't put chems in their head, but eating chems everydays. I've been on hair board for many years and i'll never understand...

When i think natural, I think of someone who follows a vegan/vegetarian organic lifestyle.

eh... just my 2 cents

 

[Lucky's Mom]

I personally don't like the use of the term natural to describe hair that's not relaxed. People walking round claiming natural because they don't put chems in their head, but eating chems everydays. I've been on hair board for many years and i'll never understand...

When i think natural, I think of someone who follows a vegan/vegetarian organic lifestyle.

eh... just my 2 cents

Very well put!!!!

Tooooooochay!!!

 

[gorgeous86]

I don't understand the anger cuz some folks sounding a lil salty about this.

First off, I fully concede that if you use chemicals to alter the texture of your hair then no you are no longer natural.

But I use the term texlax because I use a relaxer (Affirm) to texturize my hair instead of a texturizer kit (S-Curl or other box that says texturizer on it).

How is using the term texlax helpful?
Because it helps people understand how I can wear a puff yet am still relaxed. I've been relaxed bone straight before and trust that there was no texture to my hair at all. There is a difference in degrees of relaxing just as there are different degrees of hair texture. I don't understand the need to make relaxing into a 'one size fits all' procedure when it's clearly not.

I agree. I thought that the term "texlaxed" was used to describe the degree of relaxing as well. I thought that it was used on hair boards (haven't heard it IRL) to describe intentionally underprocessed hair.

 

[momi]

Not a chance. Telax - relax... all the same.

Some would call me relaxed though because I am a straight natural... whatever!

 

[Leeda.the.Paladin]

I got so mad a few months ago when I asked an older lady if she was natural. It was cut really short, so at first glance, I thought it was. She said yes and then we kept talking about something and else. She later said something about putting a texturizer in her hair because she couldn't handle a relaxer anymore. I was like, huh? but I didn't say anything.

I really think some people just think that shorter, nonstraight hair is "natural"

 

[bellecheveux]

"Silkened," texturized, relaxed, texlaxed, or any other chemically treated hair is not natural. Simple.

 

[NikStarrr]

I don't get all the *hostility*. haha

But, nope. You're not considered natural if you texlax.

I don't think there is anything wrong with describing hair as being texlaxed, however, as it's still usually pretty different from traditionally relaxed hair--at least it was for me. I definitely think it's good to have a way to differentiate between the two (texlaxed, relaxed) because the hair issues for each can be much different.

My previously texlaxed hair:

 

[HoneyDew]

I can't believe people get so caught up on this.

LOL

It is not that serious.

 

[genesis132]

I think its very misleading that folks run around saying they are half natural, 80% natural, etc.

I've been on some fotkis where I thought they were natural and then after reading their bio and i find out that they are "texlaxed", I get upset and leave the page.
Dont want nothing to do with you unless you natural 100% LOL The in between stuff gives me no inspiration at all.

Is it REALLY that serious?
No matter what somebody else chooses to do with their hair will not affect my day or feelings in any kind of way.
There's too much other stuff going on in this world for me to even give a rat's A** whether someone hair is relaxed/bone/texlaxed/natural/100% natural/Not really considered natural because they have color/Am I still natural cuz I use products with chemicals...Crap.

It's all NAPPY when it grows from the scalp......

 

[Aggie]

Okay, it's time to unsubscibeerplexed.

 

[Nonie]

I personally don't like the use of the term natural to describe hair that's not relaxed. People walking round claiming natural because they don't put chems in their head, but eating chems everydays. I've been on hair board for many years and i'll never understand...

When i think natural, I think of someone who follows a vegan/vegetarian organic lifestyle.

eh... just my 2 cents

I think that sort of person would be considered "organic" not "natural". One definition of "organic" is "simple and healthful and close to nature" (such as an organic lifestyle). Let's stop trying to change the word "natural" to mean more than it does. Natural means "existing in or produced by nature, not artificial or imitation." So if the hair on your head is in the state in which it grew out of your scalp, it is natural whether you dress it in pearls and gold trimmings, or leave it for Mother Nature to groom it however she wants.

 

[LiberianGirl]

Is it REALLY that serious?
No matter what somebody else chooses to do with their hair will not affect my day or feelings in any kind of way.
There's too much other stuff going on in this world for me to even give a rat's A** whether someone hair is relaxed/bone/texlaxed/natural/100% natural/Not really considered natural because they have color/Am I still natural cuz I use products with chemicals...Crap.

It's all NAPPY when it grows from the scalp......

Well, I'm natural and not really interested in looking at relaxed or texlaxed hair because texlaxed and relaxed hair generally have different needs from my natural hair. When I was relaxed, I frequented more relaxed hair fotki's. If I come across a fotki that I think appears to be natural but it's not, I'm out. They're regimen is just not going to be something that I would find useful. Not to say I don't visit relaxed fotki's, I do, just not as frequently as natural fotki's.

 

[wonderstar]

No it's not natural.

 

[Kay.Dee]

I personally don't like the use of the term natural to describe hair that's not relaxed. People walking round claiming natural because they don't put chems in their head, but eating chems everydays. I've been on hair board for many years and i'll never understand...

When i think natural, I think of someone who follows a vegan/vegetarian organic lifestyle.

eh... just my 2 cents

Most of the time when people say they are natural they are referring to their hair and nothing else for the most part. How do you suggest people with hair sans chemicals refer to their hair? If you're a vegetarian/vegan call yourself one and then call it a day.

 

[*Happily Me*]

I think that sort of person would be considered "organic" not "natural". One definition of "organic" is "simple and healthful and close to nature" (such as an organic lifestyle). Let's stop trying to change the word "natural" to mean more than it does. Natural means "existing in or produced by nature, not artificial or imitation." So if the hair on your head is in the state in which it grew out of your scalp, it is natural whether you dress it in pearls and gold trimmings, or leave it for Mother Nature to groom it however she wants.

I hear ya but I still stand by how I view the term natural. But if "naturals" wanna call themselves that then hey, to each her own

 

[Shandell]

I personally don't like the use of the term natural to describe hair that's not relaxed. People walking round claiming natural because they don't put chems in their head, but eating chems everydays. I've been on hair board for many years and i'll never understand...

When i think natural, I think of someone who follows a vegan/vegetarian organic lifestyle.

eh... just my 2 cents

You know what this is way too complex. I am a vegetarian who eats organic food … and my hair is nappy so in your estimation that makes me “natural,” but someone else who has “natural” hair that consumes a whopper is “unnatural?” What? What it all comes down to is acceptance; people want to feel like their more superior in some way because their hair is “natural.” Fanatic hair naturals make others feel condemned if they even mention a relaxer, flat iron, blow dryer, or anything that may alter the hair strands temporarily or permanently, this puts people in bondage, and I have no part in it. Natural in the terms of hair means to have hair free of chemicals; it has nothing to do with what people consume. Meat is not bad God created it a gave us dominion over the animals so someone who consumes meat is not any less a person because they chose to eat meat, nor is an individual who chooses to relax, texturizer of whatever they do any less of a person because they choose to use chemicals… it all boils down to an individual choice without all the restrictions and bondage that women of color like to inflict on each other. You never hear of Caucasians arguing about women with curly hair being more natural than those without them. Be it natural, relaxed or somewhere in between represent it well and keep it moving despite peoples opinions.
Much Love

 

[*Happily Me*]

Most of the time when people say they are natural they are referring to their hair and nothing else for the most part. How do you suggest people with hair sans chemicals refer to their hair? If you're a vegetarian/vegan call yourself one and then call it a day.

right! and if someone wants to say they're 50% natural, let them call themselves that and lets call it a day

you got people getting salty because texlaxers wanna share their precious word

 

[*Happily Me*]

thank you, Shandell