Mega Tek or Ovation? What if there was only one?

[Aggie]

You make perfect sense plus the quality of each ingredient is different depending on the source in which the company aquired it in the first place, especially keratin. Artemis found some information a long time ago about how the quality of keratin protein can vary in products because the sources are not the same. Also, thinking from a manufactoring point of view, the way you would process your kertain source would affect the final product as well.

Just because something has similar ingredients, doesn't mean it works the same way.

Thanks for the additional confirmation honey.

 

[Sweetie083]

I don't know if this has already been stated, but I believe that the Ovation Cell Therapy and Mega-Tek are made by the same company. I just went to EQyss' website, the company that makes Mega-Tek, and on the page featuring grooming products, at the bottom there is a frame that says "Great Benefits for Humans", and if you click on the link, it takes you to the Ovation Cell Therapy home page. That would explain why the ingredients are so similar with a few omissions/admissions. Just go to the www.eqyss.com, and you will see what I am talking about.

 

[PuffyBrown]

I don't know if this has already been stated, but I believe that the Ovation Cell Therapy and Mega-Tek are made by the same company. I just went to EQyss' website, the company that makes Mega-Tek, and on the page featuring grooming products, at the bottom there is a frame that says "Great Benefits for Humans", and if you click on the link, it takes you to the Ovation Cell Therapy home page. That would explain why the ingredients are so similar with a few omissions/admissions. Just go to the www.eqyss.com, and you will see what I am talking about.

Really oh wow. I am going to check that out.

 

[nodisrespect]

This leads more credence to my opinion that Ovation is a gimmick... playing on people who are skeptical about buying a product marketed to animals... they are like ewwwww, I better get the one for humans even though it costs a good 30$ more... when it reality it's the same ingredients made by the same company

 

[lilsparkle825]

lol....y'all mad.

i will make my decision if i even wanna TRY a growth aid after i read that thread...but by the way it's growing that might take till the semester starts up. LOL

but at this point this thread (thru all the weirdness) has made me think that MT may be better if it is so much cheaper and so many people have had such good results.

if you dont mind answering a dumb question before i start reading all 547645793698 pages...it just helps you retain, right? or does it actually speed up hair growth? thanks...in advance...

 

[PuffyBrown]

This leads more credence to my opinion that Ovation is a gimmick... playing on people who are skeptical about buying a product marketed to animals... they are like ewwwww, I better get the one for humans even though it costs a good 30$ more... when it reality it's the same ingredients made by the same company

Yea I see that too but we have to keep in mind that the Ovation product has more fluff to make the hair more silky and give the salon effect. Most people are not sitting in a hair care forum figuring this shyt out. Further, how many people are going to buy MT and add caster oil, SAA and other stuff to make it the same quality brand as the Ovation. Convenience is not free.

 

[tt8]

I would like to preface, that I'm not being sarcastic and or judgemental in my statements. I know sometimes it's hard to understand emotion through text. With that said...

It's not that many of us are actually ditching The MT for OCT but that some of us are trying out both lines to see which one adds better results for our hair. I am one of these ladies that are doing this. I have both lines and I chose to use MT first then move onto the OCT, however if I find that the MT works better on my hair than the OCT, then I will be returning to using the MT. It's that simple, lol. And oh yeah, because the MT is cheaper too is a good reason to return to using it again.

I am doing the same thing. Since I was the one who started the thread I felt I should try both products to honestly know what I was suggesting wouldn't be harmful to those who joined the challenge. Everything is not for everyone but for the most part we've had great results because of the products and the help that we provide each other through suggestions, encouragement, and information.
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I know the sticky thread is long but seriously, ya'll - READ THE WHOLE THREAD - if you are seriously interested about learning from those of us who have used it, and have been posting our results and our findings - both good and bad - from using it.

Heck, do a search - there is at least one thread around here talking solely about regimens, as well!

To answer the above question, MOST people are using it daily, solely on their scalp, and leaving it in until the next time they wash their hair. MOST people have found that it is too strong of a protein to use on their hair for an extended period of time.

Anything worth having is worth working for. PLEASE read the danngone sticky, or leave it be!

It amazes me, but a lot of people don't do this first. I can tell when people haven't even read the first post of the thread. Just by questions asked and confusion folks have about the product, IMHO, makes me think they haven't done the steps to avoid them. The first post, which is updated every Sunday, is the cliff notes to the entire thread. Every helpful detail vital to the use of the OCT/MT is there.

It seems like the Mega Tek and Ovation products are quite controversial.
I just wanted to state for the record that I have read all of the posts and though there is a lot of information in them about usage there was really no way for me to get a tally of OCT users vs MT users without taking a poll.
Love all yall....please stop arguing..

This isn't true. The very first post with challenge rules, dates, breakdown of product ingredients and price, suggestions on home-made mixes and how to apply the product, links to helpful threads, and products that combat shedding, states the challenge members and what product they are using. From the very beginning I asked everyone to PM me their product of choice so we could compare results. This is the only way to officially join the challenge.

 

[january noir]

This leads more credence to my opinion that Ovation is a gimmick... playing on people who are skeptical about buying a product marketed to animals... they are like ewwwww, I better get the one for humans even though it costs a good 30$ more... when it reality it's the same ingredients made by the same company

It is not a gimmick, at least for my hair. Remember what works for some may not work for everyone. It works for many people who use it and our opinion, it is not a gimmick.

Yea I see that too but we have to keep in mind that the Ovation product has more fluff to make the hair more silky and give the salon effect. Most people are not sitting in a hair care forum figuring this shyt out. Further, how many people are going to buy MT and add caster oil, SAA and other stuff to make it the same quality brand as the Ovation. Convenience is not free.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that with OVATION you are paying for the upscale version of the EQyss product and that is fine with me, it's my choice. BTW, I have Mega-Tek as well and use both. I don't understand why people feel they have to choose one over the other and defend their choice like defending their right to live. All that matters is that it works.

I am not one necessarily looking for bargains, so just because Mega-Tek is cheaper is not why I would choose it necessarily, though others do and that's fine and I encourage that. Personally, I don't have time, nor do I have the desire to add, mix and experiment. OVATION is worth the price for me because it delivers what I need it to do and all I have to do is pour it in my hand and apply.

 

[Aggie]

I would like to preface, that I'm not being sarcastic and or judgemental in my statements. I know sometimes it's hard to understand emotion through text. With that said...

I am doing the same thing. Since I was the one who started the thread I felt I should try both products to honestly know what I was suggesting wouldn't be harmful to those who joined the challenge. Everything is not for everyone but for the most part we've had great results because of the products and the help that we provide each other through suggestions, encouragement, and information.​

It amazes me, but a lot of people don't do this first. I can tell when people haven't even read the first post of the thread. Just by questions asked and confusion folks have about the product, IMHO, makes me think they haven't done the steps to avoid them. The first post, which is updated every Sunday, is the cliff notes to the entire thread. Every helpful detail vital to the use of the OCT/MT is there.
This isn't true. The very first post with challenge rules, dates, breakdown of product ingredients and price, suggestions on home-made mixes and how to apply the product, links to helpful threads, and products that combat shedding, states the challenge members and what product they are using. From the very beginning I asked everyone to PM me their product of choice so we could compare results. This is the only way to officially join the challenge.

This is what I don't understand tt8. When I made the choice to join this challenge, it was after weeks of research and reading through these posts and deciding that I wanted to use both OCT and MT to make an informed and long term choice on which one I feel I would like to continue using. I even called Ovation hair with some questions just to be sure of the choice I was about to make. I read the instructions on the front page thoroughly before I even bought my OCT and MT. That way I would only ask a question if something was unclear to me. I even marked a few pages in my favorites as a way to refer back to them for help.

You can even do a search within a thread to find answers to many questions that have already been answered like a thousand times it seems. Please ladies we want to help but please read the front page as tt8 is concerned enough to update it everytime an issue comes up that would be of a concern to the rest of us.

tt8, maybe what we should do is add in very large bold print in red to 'PLEASE READ ENTIRE INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE USING OCT/MT'.

 

[Moonxyz]

I choose MT; does the same thing and is cheaper

 

[Kimberly]

I have read many of the threads concerning this and I have decided to go with the MT I have enough oils and I need to order some more SAA and I'll *doctor it up* and follow the instructions that members who have been using it laid out in the different regis... I'm excited.

I don't understand what the big controversy has been about. One of our mottos here is that everything is not for everybody.

 

[PuffyBrown]

I would like to preface, that I'm not being sarcastic and or judgemental in my statements. I know sometimes it's hard to understand emotion through text. With that said...

I am doing the same thing. Since I was the one who started the thread I felt I should try both products to honestly know what I was suggesting wouldn't be harmful to those who joined the challenge. Everything is not for everyone but for the most part we've had great results because of the products and the help that we provide each other through suggestions, encouragement, and information.​

It amazes me, but a lot of people don't do this first. I can tell when people haven't even read the first post of the thread. Just by questions asked and confusion folks have about the product, IMHO, makes me think they haven't done the steps to avoid them. The first post, which is updated every Sunday, is the cliff notes to the entire thread. Every helpful detail vital to the use of the OCT/MT is there.
This isn't true. The very first post with challenge rules, dates, breakdown of product ingredients and price, suggestions on home-made mixes and how to apply the product, links to helpful threads, and products that combat shedding, states the challenge members and what product they are using. From the very beginning I asked everyone to PM me their product of choice so we could compare results. This is the only way to officially join the challenge.

I don't remember saying anything about not seeing the ingredients, nor any of the other info but thank you. I read the entrie Ovation challenge thread B4 posting this info.Great info.

I am taking a poll for the "count", if you will, a numerical value so that I don't have to do that manually everytime someone joins. This count may also includes people who are using the product that are not on the challenge. This also has a significant margin that not all users will even vote. Also as people are joining the post these people are updated in the middle of the thread so I would have to sort through the thread to recount. When you come back to the threa you read on and on you simply forget who is doing what. This is voluntary and has nothing to do with information provided in the ovation challenge thread. I am positive that everyone is reading the ovation challenge including myself. I am up in there several times a day.

 

[thinkpinkprincess]

so do y'all think that OCT is safe to use? I was sooo close to buying this but then I read on one of the pages in here that it has EDTA in it... not really familiar with it but now I'm scared to try it erplexed

 

[belleama]

so do y'all think that OCT is safe to use? I was sooo close to buying this but then I read on one of the pages in here that it has EDTA in it... not really familiar with it but now I'm scared to try it erplexed

EDTA is very common in body lotions, soaps, and facial tissue too. IMHO its no big unless you are allergic but I'm not a doctor. So consult yours if you have any questions regarding its safety.

 

[fluffylocks]

The major active ingredient in Surge was mucopolysacchrides.....which area also found in Mega-Tek.

True .--I was going to say keratin and mucopoly's but they just contain sulfur and hold cells together and in surge keratin protein is right after that and in mega-tek its all the way in the bottom...So i just concluded/stated that the major ingredient in both of these was keratin.

Water, cetrimonium chloride, propylene glycol, muccopolysaccharides, hydrolyzed keratin protein, hydrolyzed vegetable protein, polyquarternium-7, biotin, fragrance, methylparaben, aloe barbadensis gel, propylparaben, citric acid, sodium PCA

Deionized water, hydrolyzed keratin protein (HU), stearalkonium chloride, glyceryl stearate, peg 100 stearate (DI), marine protein (DI), peg 40 (no castor oil), panthenol, dimethicone copolyol (the one cone), magnesium citrate (DI), allantoin (DI), amino acids (DI), methylparaben, mucopolysaccharides (DI), polyparaben, imidazolidinyl urea (DI), fragrance
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[fluffylocks]

I'll take a stab, and say for what it's worth- that I think the Aphogee Keratin could work. Also the Aphogee 2 min reconstructor- although that one has mineral oil(the debil for some). A couple of weeks ago I thought the same thing and was using the Aphogee 2 minutes for all of 2 weeks. I couldn't keep out of the MT/OCT thread and eventually I bought into the hype. And you know what I am so glad that I did.

The Aphogee 2 minutes has mineral oil and after I weighed the odds I started to feel uncomfortable with using mineral oil on my scalp.

Everyone's situation is different though. I think it was easy for me to jump on the bandwagon because I saw all the proof and evidence that these ladies were having. So no one can say that the Aphogee won't work, you just might have to be the trial subject.

I don't think you can go wrong with either Ovation or MT- they both work if the user actually uses them.

The thing for me as other posters have noted is that the MT really does have a great deal of Keratin, and my hair is protein sensitive. I am coming back from a setback of being overprocessed last Aug, and I did not want to set myself up for another setback. So for me it was worth the extra money to spend on OCT because I did not have the SAA or Honeyquat that I thought would be ideal to mix into the MT and would have had to purchase those items as well.

I also wanted to start low and go slow, I am like that with everything, vitamins etc. But after using OCT for a month now, I would consider alternating with an MT mix, now that I am armed with knowledge of using this product. I would do the Nice&Wavy technique and alternate one application OCT the next application MT.

One more thing the OCT may be pricey, but it does last. I have 3/4 of a bottle still left or at least another 3 months worth of applications out of it. So you are paying up front for a product that will last.

I can honestly say that OCT is the only growth aid that has ever worked for me. I am never giving up OCT but I will consider supplementing with MT.

I really like the discussion in this thread.

Thanks Self for your answer! I didnt even see it untill i came back and starting reading through the thread.

I wasnt trying to de-rail the thread or put down either one of the products yall im so sorry if it seemed that way.
I was just wondering while their was a discussion going on about these two products and their ingredients how another product with similar ingredients would qualify

 

[PuffyBrown]

Thank you everyone who have provided information about using Mega Tek and Ovation.

I certainly appreciate this information.
I strongly think we learned our lesson and got enough information yesterday on the subject of Keratin.
I think it as that would be great if we can leave that a mute issue.

I am at work and don't make me



When I get home from work.

 

[blasianbeauty]

ya'll I swear I still dont even know what this stuff is yet, I havent even looked at the other thread on it!

Same here! I don't know what this stuff or BT is...I just learned the other day that MN is Monistat - I think? erplexed

 

[Irresistible]

Same here! I don't know what this stuff or BT is...I just learned the other day that MN is Monistat - I think? erplexed

Yeah MN is Monistat! BT is boundless tresses

and I learned what this stuff was yesterday. Its primarily a Keratin Protein Treatment that is being used quite often. I didnt agree that it wouldnt be without risks, and that made a mess around here. but you know some ARE using it safely. Its up to you if your interested in growth aides , the thread on this is like thousands of posts long , but you can read up on it there and find out all you need to know ! I learned about it here though. If your not particually interested in growth aids you dont need to know anything about it really

 

[Ganjababy]

ovation is gentler on the hair

 

[Irresistible]

ovation is gentler on the hair

yeah I had said yesterday that just based on what I did know up to that point that if I were to choose one, it would be Ovation, also because its the one formulated for humans. I felt that would be the better choice of the two, but you know anything I say at this point.......I might be putting down MT now or somethin

but I did understand that the OCT came with more moisturzing properties, that was my line of thinking in saying at the time if I were to use this stuff (I wouldnt) that , OCT would be my choice

 

[Aggie]

so do y'all think that OCT is safe to use? I was sooo close to buying this but then I read on one of the pages in here that it has EDTA in it... not really familiar with it but now I'm scared to try it erplexed

Just about all my products have this in them and as long as my hair is thriving I will continue to use them all as I am not about to wash my hair and face with just water alone. The concentrations of these ingredients are usually put in products in a safe amount for human use. I'm fine wth it.

 

[explosiva9]

OCT and MT basically have same ingredients. OCT has castor oil and something else that helps soften the hair and make it silky. If you have castor oil and some other oils already at home, it's just a better choice to get the MT in my opinion and as you transfer it into an applicator bottle, just add some oils to it.

Also, with the OCT, a lot of people are using the entire line, poo and cond included. MT also has poo, cond, leave-in, etc. And MT would still be the better value money-wise. And if you look at the results, users for both products are having the same results from what I can see. Both are experiencing strength, better elasticity, volume, and mega-growth.

 

[butterfli]

Thanks for your detailed blog post on the breakdown on both. Cost isnt a factor for me, but I just dont WANT to spend that much on a growth aid unless hair is shooting out of my scalp at unreal pace. I can get over the feel for half the price. I will just doctor that MT up a bit. Get my mixtress on.

Yall should peep Kiya's blog if you havent
http://www.nappydelphia.com/2008/03/horse-vs-human-who-comes-out-on-top.html

I agree! I am gonna join the challenge. Will order the Mega Tek tomorrow! Thanks for such a detailed and well written review Kiya!!!

 

[Aggie]

Same here! I don't know what this stuff or BT is...I just learned the other day that MN is Monistat - I think? erplexed

Actually MN is Miconazole Nitrate (known for fighting fungal infections of the foot, vaginal infections, and dandruff on the scalp) and it is the active ingredient in Monistat, neosporin, daktarin, etc, just for clarification.

 

[Prettyeyes]

Iris, thanks for thinking about possible danger your caution and wisdom is why you have such beautiful hair.AND HAVE FOR YEARS AND I KNOW THAT!

 

[iasade]

I purchased them both at the same time and OCT arrived first. I used that for the first month and got 3/4 inches of growth, along with a pretty good feeling along my hair shaft. BUT, it is very expensive and my budget won't allow me to keep purchasing it.

On the other hand, I have been using MT since the beginning of June and although it is drying, my hair has grown faster to me in using it. I mean I have been using it for 3 weeks this coming Sunday, and I have at least 1/2- 3/4 inches of new growth in various spots. I diluted mine with water and castor oil, which minimized the itching and shedding I comtemplated on getting based on the reviews.

Overall- I really loved OCT and it worked for me, but the price is not within my budget. I also love MT, the smell is great and it is working just as good as the OCT and it is cheaper. But MT has a more drying effect on my hair. SO for now, I will continue to use the remainder of the MT for the month, ensure I keep my hair oiled and moisturized and check my growth afterwards.

 

[Irresistible]

Iris, thanks for thinking about possible danger your caution and wisdom is why you have such beautiful hair.AND HAVE FOR YEARS AND I KNOW THAT!

Thank you sweetie and that means the world to me. I generally feel that if you dont take great risks with your hair you will never risk losing it at all (at least not by your own hand). Thats just how I feel. The risk/benefit ratio has to be weighed at all times. I never meant to come across as anything I was accused of. This product , when I found out it has Keratin and how much it was being used , had the red flags raised for me, plus already hearing about someone suffering a major set back with protein overload (She posted her thread just as I was learning about the products here) had me saying this may not be worth it. I have seen the growth , but simple suggestions that maybe using a horse/animal product (MT) that wasnt developed for humans might not be safe, and considering the ingredients of MT/OCT I felt the same results could be achieved more safely with correct use of Aphogee along with the commitment to do so, seemed make it all go downhill. The truth is I would just really hate to see anyone suffer huge major heartbreaking set backs with their hair,I have been there, and for this I am known, thus the overly unnecessary name calling directed at me, 'captain save a head' and then the ensuing badgering over the thread control and you know the one that always shows up instigating with the dead horse, well it all got a bit frustrating, and then I reacted poorly from there. But yes my initial intentions by proof of this thread, and my intentions all along were not to diss anyone, but yes to step up and maybe 'save some heads' , and you know what followed, I didnt handle it all the best way after being upset and alot of things didnt go so well after that!

but its over and I hope that for everyone using these products it truly works out for the best for all of them! I hate to see people take such risks, doesnt mean it wont turn out ok, its just that risk is still risk! I got accused of having a tone long before I had one, and when I did have one it was more just shere frustration at what happened here. Then I was wrong for directing it at everyone that uses this stuff. Some people had me playin right into their hand! making me look just as they wanted me to, by acting how I did from the upset! and for that I have regret! Lesson learned! Thank you to all who knew my true hearts intentions all along! and thank you for this sweetie! Thank you!!!!

 

[FlawedBeauty]

hey all!

i spoke to a rep from ovation and she said that Ovation was created after that product and improved since human hair and horse hair are indeed different and need different ingredients to keep it healthy. And the proteins and amino acids that Ovation Cell Therapy has helps the acceleration of hair growth, strengthens it and rejuvenates it. She said she does know that people are using MT and are happy with it, and that the makers of MT is their parent company.

hope this helps some in their decision making

 

[explosiva9]

Before MT/OCT blew up on this forum, when research was done, MT was found to be safe for use by humans, and was even administered to cancer patients who suffered hair loss through chemo. I haven't done a search recently to see if there are any changes but I know that now when you click on the human use link on the manufacturers page, it takes you to OCT.

Now, the makers of MT, who not only are lurking on this site but are also intelligent enough to know that marketing is everything and can smell a profit from thousands of miles away, came up with the same product in new packaging and added some hair softening ingredients such as castor oil which many already have in stock at home.

If any have gone through the entire OCT/MT original thread, you will learn that London Diva contacted the company with questions about both products trying to find out what the difference in the products are. The emails were never responded too. And also in the early days, many ladies called and were told that they are basically the same product but OCT was being marketed to humans.

Its just really a matter of convenience. You can get one that already has conditioners in it, or you can doctor yours up and add stuff to MT and get the same results. If you have a "lab" at home, then it may be better to just get the MT.

Just some info for those trying to decide.