Mega Tek or Ovation? What if there was only one?

[Irresistible]

Oh, I was only commenting on the Horse vs. Human...not the protein levels...so I think the sarcasm was a bit much. I know you are Captain Save a head but dang.

I wasnt sarcastic at all , whoa! but you just were!

I dont gotta save nobody's head, cause people are gonna do what they want! now I'm gettin called names beccause I would want to save someone from total set back! WOW!

 

[Irresistible]

I keep getting excited to see this thread bumped up, thinking people are talking about a product I'm about to purchase, but it keeps being about Aphogee... can we maybe get a spin off thread for the Aphogee keratin concerns? I mean, if you don't want to buy a "horse" product... don't?

Could anyone shed any light on the issues of whether to use Megatek only on the scalp or not, and how frequently?

Sorry I interupted your thread! and no I wouldnt use a horse product! or anything not formulated for humans. nope

All these things that take off like this have some major downsides for some later! Surge, MTG and with this its arleady showing up! but you know I dont belong in here talking about an alternative without such risk. nope , let me take my happy a$$ out of here far be it for me to save somebody's head. Protein it on up!

far be it for me to suggest something that would probably be much safer and be for the same purpose! Keratin! of course yall are free to do what you want!

Carry on, nevermind me!

 

[JustKiya]

I know the sticky thread is long but seriously, ya'll - READ THE WHOLE THREAD - if you are seriously interested about learning from those of us who have used it, and have been posting our results and our findings - both good and bad - from using it.

Heck, do a search - there is at least one thread around here talking solely about regimens, as well!

To answer the above question, MOST people are using it daily, solely on their scalp, and leaving it in until the next time they wash their hair. MOST people have found that it is too strong of a protein to use on their hair for an extended period of time.

Anything worth having is worth working for. PLEASE read the danngone sticky, or leave it be!

 

[Irresistible]

I am late to the game. I purchased the MT and used it all over like a conditioner. I read in this thread you are only supposed to be using it on the scalp, is that correct? Like hair grease?erplexed

Sorry nobody is interested in saving your head I guess

I hope your hair will be ok, I dont know anything about the product and already been called captain save a head I hope someone 'who cares' can come along that knows these products and help you!

 

[bellezanegra826]

Sorry nobody is interested in saving your head I guess

I hope your hair will be ok, I dont know anything about the product and already been called captain save a head I hope someone 'who cares' can come along that knows these products and help you!

well 'captain' i appreciate your posts and everyone else that has brought up the issue of proteins because i am good for using a cup of something when it says use a dime size amount and i probably would not have thought about proteins or protein overload.

 

[january noir]

I know the sticky thread is long but seriously, ya'll - READ THE WHOLE THREAD - if you are seriously interested about learning from those of us who have used it, and have been posting our results and our findings - both good and bad - from using it.

Heck, do a search - there is at least one thread around here talking solely about regimens, as well!

To answer the above question, MOST people are using it daily, solely on their scalp, and leaving it in until the next time they wash their hair. MOST people have found that it is too strong of a protein to use on their hair for an extended period of time.

Anything worth having is worth working for. PLEASE read the danngone sticky, or leave it be!

Here's a DAP for you JustKiya. Folks better stop being lazy and read that thread!
Folks were unhappy with henna because they didn't read the ENTIRE thread. And folks are still throwing lemon juice in their mix and mad 'cause their hair is dry and crunchy. LAWD!

It's been stated 60-11x what to do and how to use.

If you don't have time to read through the thread (for the most part), don't use the product until you understand what to do. Then want to come back crying that their hair is a mess.

Sorry, I'm PMsing. I just hate that people don't take the time to research and read. Dang, print it out and read it while going to the bathroom or at lunch!

ETA: Print it out (you can you know - there is a printable version) and use a highlighter.

 

[SelfStyled]

***In my best Rodney King humble voice*** Can't we all just get along?

To answer the question Spidergurl, most people are applying it to scalp how many times a week is up to you, and leaving it on the shower for like 5 min.

I apply every other night (I use Ovation). I know some people use it nightly though.

 

[Irresistible]

well 'captain' i appreciate your posts and everyone else that has brought up the issue of proteins because i am good for using a cup of something when it says use a dime size amount and i probably would not have thought about proteins or protein overload.

hehe girl I know! nobody deters me truthfully!

Exactly girl! I know what I'm doing and its for people like you!

lmao@ helping people save their hair on LHCF even being percieved as being a bad thing! wow

but to you; I'm glad you can now consider this and be careful

 

[Irresistible]

I am late to the game. I purchased the MT and used it all over like a conditioner. I read in this thread you are only supposed to be using it on the scalp, is that correct? Like hair grease?erplexed

ahh forget it I will just do it!

Gurl get that ish out your hair NOW! DO NOT LEAVE IT IN!

Dont use it as conditioner, it seems to me its more of a protein treatment and folks are only using it on their scalp. and like they said, read the whole thread, becuase thats the only place your going to get all the answers!

 

[nodisrespect]

I'm not saying don't read up as much as you can, and quite frankly, I personally only repeated the question to get the thread back on subject. After seeing LondonDiva's results in an update thread (during which, for the record, she mentioned applying it only to the scalp), I've read a couple pages of the original thread, and I would wager a guess that most other people have too. I don't think it's giving people, this board in particular, too much credit to say people serious about growing their hair are not going to use a product willy nilly without first researching its affects.

I'm just saying, I don't understand why this thread about one product is being derailed about another. Wouldn't someone who took the time to see some new product and its affects at this point be aware of protein overload and how to combat/fix it? If you don't want to use a product personally, that's all good and well, but why try to convince other people not to as well? I could see if it was just like, "well, I wouldn't use it, I would use this", but the replies over and over (and over)... I can understand the other comments made afterwards. I personally got the point and was ready to move on.

 

[Bint Yusef]

ahh forget it I will just do it!

Gurl get that ish out your hair NOW! DO NOT LEAVE IT IN!

Dont use it as conditioner, it seems to me its more of a protein treatment and folks are only using it on their scalp. and like they said, read the whole thread, becuase thats the only place your going to get all the answers!

Before I knew MT was a growth aid I was using it once a week as a protein treatment and would prepoo with for hours without problem. It was on par with Keraphix as far as my hair is concerned. So I dont see any grave danger in using MT on ALL of your hair once in a while. I wouldnt do it daily but its really not a cause for alarm if she has it in her hair.

 

[Irresistible]

If you noticed I was learning more about this product in this very thread, I did not know anything about it whatsover before this. and I wasnt the only that had the very same question as you see someone else asked the same thing. As far as trying to not get people to use it, nah! Keratin is Keratin, I saw the thread with the growth results,but I just found out its Keratin and one is a horse product at that. Knowing the little that I did read on the growth progres thread people are leaving this in! well I have had a MAJOR protein set back from a product less likely to do it than this. So with all this information that I just learned it raised red flags for me about the possible major down sides. What I want to know is why I should or anybody have to 'controlled' about what they say? Yes I brought up another product and I wasnt the only one , that would be a good safe alternative with probably the same result and can be used within the directions safely! I had EVERY right to express what I felt about the risks and another alternative. and even what I feel about using products not formulated for humans! I had every right to participate and say what I wanted in this thread. What I wanna know is whats up the 'thread control"?

where are the thread police! ya'l can just as easily just discount what I am saying and carry on with your mission with the MT/OCT there should be no reason for anyone to get upset if I say there is what I believe to be a safer just as effective way! I mean unless ya'll got stock in MT/OCT ....WHY DO YOU CARE?

I cant litteraly make anyone either not put something on their head or put something on their head! I dont have that power! and your WRONG to assume everybody read that whole thread , as you can see some did not! Besides, damn I can say what I want!

I'm not saying don't read up as much as you can, and quite frankly, I personally only repeated the question to get the thread back on subject. After seeing LondonDiva's results in an update thread (during which, for the record, she mentioned applying it only to the scalp), I've read a couple pages of the original thread, and I would wager a guess that most other people have too. I don't think it's giving people, this board in particular, too much credit to say people serious about growing their hair are not going to use a product willy nilly without first researching its affects.

I'm just saying, I don't understand why this thread about one product is being derailed about another. Wouldn't someone who took the time to see some new product and its affects at this point be aware of protein overload and how to combat/fix it? If you don't want to use a product personally, that's all good and well, but why try to convince other people not to as well? I could see if it was just like, "well, I wouldn't use it, I would use this", but the replies over and over (and over)... I can understand the other comments made afterwards. I personally got the point and was ready to move on.

 

[WomanlyCharm]

ahh forget it I will just do it!

Gurl get that ish out your hair NOW! DO NOT LEAVE IT IN!

Dont use it as conditioner, it seems to me its more of a protein treatment and folks are only using it on their scalp. and like they said, read the whole thread, becuase thats the only place your going to get all the answers!

I thought you didn't even use this product? No need to ring the alarm, she's gonna be alright!

I've used MT as a conditioner for months, at least once a week, and my hair is doing great. A little MT, under the steamer for half an hour, and my hair is shiny moisturized and strong.
And I don't leave MT on my scalp (although some do), that's what I have my OCT for.

Spidergurl, I'm gonna pm you.

 

[nodisrespect]

Uh... tell us why you mad son?

No one is trying to restrict your right to free speech, ok? What I'm saying is, after a post or two, you didn't think that maybe people understood your point?

Just because you had a protein set back, you don't think other people can recognize the affects of too much protein on their hair, if it happens to them, and how to fix it?

Maybe some people have hair that requires slightly more protein and the protein issue may not be a problem that would prohibit them from trying this product?

Your whole perspective is that this product could be bad because of heavy protein but who even says other people's hair has problems with protein heavy products?

Look... I only said can we talk about the product being talked about instead of a different one... no need to get all riled up, ok? It's not a big deal. I think everyone saw, understood, and accepted your concerns and perhaps the conversation could move back to whether or not MT or Ovation is the better product. You said yourself you didn't even really know what this product does, so maybe you could have been the one reading up on it before posting concerns that may or may not have already been addressed? If I recall correctly, the protein issue has already been brought up in many of the MT/O threads, (along with several other concerns).

 

[Irresistible]

And I did say I wouldnt use this I would use that, the rest was my just going along with responding to the flow

I'm not saying don't read up as much as you can, and quite frankly, I personally only repeated the question to get the thread back on subject. After seeing LondonDiva's results in an update thread (during which, for the record, she mentioned applying it only to the scalp), I've read a couple pages of the original thread, and I would wager a guess that most other people have too. I don't think it's giving people, this board in particular, too much credit to say people serious about growing their hair are not going to use a product willy nilly without first researching its affects.

I'm just saying, I don't understand why this thread about one product is being derailed about another. Wouldn't someone who took the time to see some new product and its affects at this point be aware of protein overload and how to combat/fix it? If you don't want to use a product personally, that's all good and well, but why try to convince other people not to as well? I could see if it was just like, "well, I wouldn't use it, I would use this", but the replies over and over (and over)... I can understand the other comments made afterwards. I personally got the point and was ready to move on.

 

[Irresistible]

I thought you didn't even use this product? No need to ring the alarm, she's gonna be alright!

I've used MT as a conditioner for months, at least once a week, and my hair is doing great. A little MT, under the steamer for half an hour, and my hair is shiny moisturized and strong.
And I don't leave MT on my scalp (although some do), that's what I have my OCT for.

Spidergurl, I'm gonna pm you.

well wouldnt nobody else do nothin to answer her question so I did and I have never heard it be suggested to leave Keratin in EVER so you know I just went according to that!

 

[sprungonhairboards]

Irr, we get it!

 

[Irresistible]

Well I guess you should understand that is my opinion that Keratin left in your hair in very high percentages can lead to protein overload. It is 'my' opinion that , doing such is very risky and not worth the risk on finding out who can tolerate it and who cant for fast growth! Thats is where I stand so thats where I am coming from!

I have no vested interest in reading up on it because now knowing what it is I have no interest in anything with heavy loads of keratin, I dont need to know anymore. but as you included in the poll yourself. I dont believe in these bandwagon growth aides and I think many of them are unsafe! I'm sorry that pisses people that want to use them off! But my sole stance on the issue is its not worth the risk! whether people get that or not, lets hope!

but in the end no matter how many times it was stated people are going to do what they want! but nah I dont need to know ANY THING else about keratin! That ish aint no joke! and if you READ what I wrote I SAID that it might work for others and ALOT OF other stuff! so yeah whats the problem?

I aint gonna be using it and I hope those that do dont suffer from protein set backs! thats it nothing more

if that pisses people off oh well!

Uh... tell us why you mad son?

No one is trying to restrict your right to free speech, ok? What I'm saying is, after a post or two, you didn't think that maybe people understood your point?

Just because you had a protein set back, you don't think other people can recognize the affects of too much protein on their hair, if it happens to them, and how to fix it?

Maybe some people have hair that requires slightly more protein and the protein issue may not be a problem that would prohibit them from trying this product?

Your whole perspective is that this product could be bad because of heavy protein but who even says other people's hair has problems with protein heavy products?

Look... I only said can we talk about the product being talked about instead of a different one... no need to get all riled up, ok? It's not a big deal. I think everyone saw, understood, and accepted your concerns and perhaps the conversation could move back to whether or not MT or Ovation is the better product. You said yourself you didn't even really know what this product does, so maybe you could have been the one reading up on it before posting concerns that may or may not have already been addressed? If I recall correctly, the protein issue has already been brought up in many of the MT/O threads, (along with several other concerns).

 

[nodisrespect]

Well I guess you should understand that is my opinion that Keratin left in your hair in very high percentages can lead to protein overload. It is 'my' opinion that , doing such is very risky and not worth the risk on finding out who can tolerate it and who cant for fast growth! Thats is where I stand so thats where I am coming from!

I have no vested interest in reading up on it because now knowing what it is I have no interest in anything with heavy loads of keratin, I dont need to know anymore. but as you included in the poll yourself. I dont believe in these bandwagon growth aides and I think many of them are unsafe! I'm sorry that pisses people that want to use them off! But my sole stance on the issue is its not worth the risk! whether people get that or not, lets hope!

but in the end no matter how many times it was stated people are going to do what they want! but nah I dont need to know ANY THING else about keratin! That ish aint no joke! and if you READ what I wrote I SAID that it might work for others and ALOT OF other stuff! so yeah whats the problem?

I aint gonna be using it and I hope those that do dont suffer from protein set backs! thats it nothing more

if that pisses people off oh well!

I thought you weren't trying to convince anyone not to use the product? Why shouldn't people do what they want?

Uh... you know... I haven't eaten today yet... I'm... going... to get some... lunch now...

 

[Irresistible]

and of course not everybody on this board would recognize protein overload or how to fix it. hell it aint even always fixable at all. Its something that can lead to total unfixable hair loss! so what you talkin about

and what about the newbies reading the thread can we assume they know? one already posted that they would not have even thought about it at all!

so say what you want. I'm glad I said what I said! at least thats one head that wont be lost. People do need to read the other thread, but alot of people see growth threads and just purchase especially if the other thread is 100's of pages long, there is a good chance some might just purchase solely on growth results with no information behind it

mabye it wasnt even about you at all

Uh... tell us why you mad son?

No one is trying to restrict your right to free speech, ok? What I'm saying is, after a post or two, you didn't think that maybe people understood your point?

Just because you had a protein set back, you don't think other people can recognize the affects of too much protein on their hair, if it happens to them, and how to fix it?

Maybe some people have hair that requires slightly more protein and the protein issue may not be a problem that would prohibit them from trying this product?

Your whole perspective is that this product could be bad because of heavy protein but who even says other people's hair has problems with protein heavy products?

Look... I only said can we talk about the product being talked about instead of a different one... no need to get all riled up, ok? It's not a big deal. I think everyone saw, understood, and accepted your concerns and perhaps the conversation could move back to whether or not MT or Ovation is the better product. You said yourself you didn't even really know what this product does, so maybe you could have been the one reading up on it before posting concerns that may or may not have already been addressed? If I recall correctly, the protein issue has already been brought up in many of the MT/O threads, (along with several other concerns).

 

[Irresistible]

I thought you weren't trying to convince anyone not to use the product? Why shouldn't people do what they want?

Uh... you know... I haven't eaten today yet... I'm... going... to get some... lunch now...

aawww you know people are going to do just that!

I clearly stated there is a safer way to use Keratin! that was not hiddin in white writing , after that the choice is theirs

 

[gymfreak336]

Now this is just my opinion but I honestly think that even though all these products have a lot of the same ingredients, that does not equate to the same amount of each ingredient in each product or the quality thereof. The balance of each ingredient I believe changes to offer the better results in the more superior product - because the ingredients are of a more superior quality in the MT than other protein-based products seemingly containing the same ingredients. Does this make sense?

You make perfect sense plus the quality of each ingredient is different depending on the source in which the company aquired it in the first place, especially keratin. Artemis found some information a long time ago about how the quality of keratin protein can vary in products because the sources are not the same. Also, thinking from a manufactoring point of view, the way you would process your kertain source would affect the final product as well.

Just because something has similar ingredients, doesn't mean it works the same way.

 

[gymfreak336]

Oh okay, i get what your saying that makes perfect since....and i guess its better to go with something that you KNOW is going to work vs. something else because the ingrdients seem to be the same...

I was doing some more research though, and couldnt help but notice that keratin protien was the big thing in Surge 14 also Interesting huh?

Anyway, how thick is the OCT? Like water, a shampoo/conditoner, castor oil?

The major active ingredient in Surge was mucopolysacchrides.....which area also found in Mega-Tek.

 

[Nice & Wavy]

Wow...why is this thread so enflamed?

If I had anything to do with the confusion or distractions of using OCT and MT in this thread or any other thread...then I'm sorry. If I encouraged anyone to use these products and they are having second thoughts, then again...I'm sorry.

Maybe I shouldn't have started a thread with pics about how OCT and MT has been working for me since March of this year. I apologize.

I was just trying to share with folks about how alternating both products did work for me, if used consistantly. I didn't know that this would become a problem in a thread.

I do encourage ladies to go to the sticky about the product, and read it and then make up your own mind if you choose to use it or not. If so, great...if not, great. Those of us who are using it and are actually getting results, don't have a problem with it...and one of those people is a beautician.

I hope we can work this out. If anyone would like to ask me a question, feel free to pm me and I would be more than willing to help you...I would never hold back information, especially something that would possibly hurt you and damage your hair.

Blessings to all, and to all a goodnight!

 

[PuffyBrown]

It seems like the Mega Tek and Ovation products are quite controversial.

I just wanted to state for the record that I have read all of the posts and though there is a lot of information in them about usage there was really no way for me to get a tally of OCT users vs MT users without taking a poll.

I think that if we could agree to disagree that from this point there should be no further hurt feelings or misunderstandings. I really don't want this thread to be closed. I think somebody has already stated this lets get along.

Lets keep the information about the products specific and do comparisons and contrast ethically and allow everyone the opportunity to learn and grow.

Love all yall....please stop arguing..

 

[Aggie]

I am late to the game. I purchased the MT and used it all over like a conditioner. I read in this thread you are only supposed to be using it on the scalp, is that correct? Like hair grease?erplexed

Yup, that is correct - only on the scalp.

 

[Aggie]

This is fact, not an opinion.

Just because an ingredient is listed in a certain order, doesn't mean the same amount/concentration was used.

It's like kool-aid. My kool-aid recipe is (this is just an example)

4c water
1c sugar
1 packet koolaid

My sisters' recipe is

4c water
3c sugar
1 packet koolaid

The ingredients are in the same order because it's listed greatest to least. But my sisters' kool-aid will melt yo teef.

Same ingredients, different concentration.

I hope that made sense.....

I thought this is exactly what I said but anyway, thanks for the third party story with the kool-aid, nice touch. Hmmm, I didn't know this to be fact as I am not a beautician/chemist and I was merely using common sense as a measure of judgement here. Thanks for the confirmation.

 

[Aggie]

I keep getting excited to see this thread bumped up, thinking people are talking about a product I'm about to purchase, but it keeps being about Aphogee... can we maybe get a spin off thread for the Aphogee keratin concerns? I mean, if you don't want to buy a "horse" product... don't?

Could anyone shed any light on the issues of whether to use Megatek only on the scalp or not, and how frequently?

ITA with your post and as far as the MT, I am using it daily on my scalp only and I wash and deep condition twice a week, and clarify every 3-4 weeks. Some of the ladies are using it every other day and are still getting great results.

 

[Aggie]

I know the sticky thread is long but seriously, ya'll - READ THE WHOLE THREAD - if you are seriously interested about learning from those of us who have used it, and have been posting our results and our findings - both good and bad - from using it.

Heck, do a search - there is at least one thread around here talking solely about regimens, as well!

To answer the above question, MOST people are using it daily, solely on their scalp, and leaving it in until the next time they wash their hair. MOST people have found that it is too strong of a protein to use on their hair for an extended period of time.

Anything worth having is worth working for. PLEASE read the danngone sticky, or leave it be!

AMEN TO THAT SEXY MAMA JAMMA!!!

 

[Aggie]

Uh... tell us why you mad son?

No one is trying to restrict your right to free speech, ok? What I'm saying is, after a post or two, you didn't think that maybe people understood your point?

Just because you had a protein set back, you don't think other people can recognize the affects of too much protein on their hair, if it happens to them, and how to fix it?

Maybe some people have hair that requires slightly more protein and the protein issue may not be a problem that would prohibit them from trying this product?

Your whole perspective is that this product could be bad because of heavy protein but who even says other people's hair has problems with protein heavy products?

Look... I only said can we talk about the product being talked about instead of a different one... no need to get all riled up, ok? It's not a big deal. I think everyone saw, understood, and accepted your concerns and perhaps the conversation could move back to whether or not MT or Ovation is the better product. You said yourself you didn't even really know what this product does, so maybe you could have been the one reading up on it before posting concerns that may or may not have already been addressed? If I recall correctly, the protein issue has already been brought up in many of the MT/O threads, (along with several other concerns).

I agree with the bolded about some type hair needing more protein than others. I believe that 3c type hair does not need quite the amount of protein that 4a/b relaxed hair needs. Our hair is an inigma to say the least in what it needs from person to person, so you just have to know your own head of hair. Take it slow first then add on as you go along. My hair is handling the protein very well and I use MT on my scalp everyday.