Can you texturize with thioglycolate?

[Kurlee]

Thio chemicals have a lower ph than relaxers and give a silkier result. So couldn't u run thru the cream till you get the result you want, rinse out and neutralize and not bother with the rollers and all that? Wouldn't it give a better result than lye?

 

[ladylibra]

my sis and i were just wondering this... it's like you read my mind...

 

[JustKiya]

I've always wondered that too - that's the chemical in curly perms, right? I think as long as you were starting with VIRGIN hair (no relaxer, no color, no nothin!) you should be cool.........

 

[Kurlee]

yea, they say its less damaging than lye and the damage comes in the recurling process. I say why recurl, when u have curls already. Rinse that sucker out after a few minutes, neutralize and you should be straight right?

Chime in chemists, and chemical gurus!

 

[silvergirl]

i was reading my moms hair book about the process of applying thioglycoloate to "black" textured hair. i think it said something about it wouldnt be strong enough to straighten the hair but it would act as a texturizer if it was just applied with no roller.

ill have to see if my mom has her book handy so i can look it up

 

[gymfreak336]

yea, they say its less damaging than lye and the damage comes in the recurling process. I say why recurl, when u have curls already. Rinse that sucker out after a few minutes, neutralize and you should be straight right?

Chime in chemists, and chemical gurus!

I gotta run but I will be back in a few. I got an answer for ya....in short, its not less damaging. It can do more damage when used as a straightner

 

[CenteredGirl]

I heard anything that starts with THIO is bad. Lots of people lost their hair on a product that was named this a few years ago.

 

[silvergirl]

so mom said the ph in thioglycolates are usually less than regular relaxers around 9 instead of 12 or 13. so technically it is less damaging but its still needs to be treated like any other chemical service. also she said it would not get the hair straight it would be more like a texture softner (aka get rid of frizz but your curls would more or less be the same)

 

[gymfreak336]

so mom said the ph in thioglycolates are usually less than regular relaxers around 9 instead of 12 or 13. so technically it is less damaging but its still needs to be treated like any other chemical service. also she said it would not get the hair straight it would be more like a texture softner (aka get rid of frizz but your curls would more or less be the same)

Right. Plus the formula for a thioglycolate straightner is different than the formula they use for the waves. With waves, its a liquid lotion formula, with straightening, its a thick cream. What makes it very damaging as a straightener is that you have to comb it through and keep stretching the hair as it processes. You have to do that to a much greater extent than with a lye relaxer.

 

[GOD]

IIRC, ammonium thoglycolate is the active ingredient in the Japanese Relaxers, so I doubt it would straighten, but it may texturize some.

 

[fluffylocks]

Thio can straighten your hair.

When you get a wavenouvo it first straightens your hair, then ads permentent curl.


Seems like you could texturize with it.

Thio requries more moisture, but it does have a lower ph and leave hair softer than a relaxer

 

[silvergirl]

and this
"The product, thio-based, is not as damaging as a sodium relaxer because it only softens the hair so that the hair takes the shape of the rods used. To answer your question about applying only the thio rearranger and not the rods is unadvisable. The hair after rearranging, needs to be stabilized on a rods to maintain integrity. You hair may be over-processed as a result of over application of the produc"

from google search.

 

[delp]

It's more damaging for 4a/b hair. The first bold spot I ever got was with this stuff.

 

[DDTexlaxed]

I wouldn't recommend it, but if U want to do it, we'll be here to support you.

 

[envybeauty]

yes you can. my friend uses it on her hair to get her hair straight (like a relaxer) she is like 3b naturally.

 

[glamazon386]

It's to my understanding that thio's are not good for our hair. I read it in a book a while back. They're too strong. Asian people and white people (with thick hair) use thio's on their hair to thin it out. If I'm not mistaken the Japanese straightening system is a thio. I think Copa was too.

 

[Kurlee]

Thanks for the replies!!! I don`t want straight hair at ALL! I jus want it loosened a smidge. Keep em coming ladies!

 

[tkj25]

the short answer, yes, you can texturize your hair with thioglocate. (basically anything you can do with a "regular" relaxer (sodium hydroxide), you can do with a "thio" relaxer, i.e. texturizing to straightening -- but you can't mix the two, pick one or the other or you'll risk severely damaging your hair.

i used to texturize my hair with wave nouveau (ammomium thioglocate). (i didn't know as much about chemicals/relaxers/texturizers as i do know, so over time i'd end up with straight hair because of run-off or over-processing. i have pics in the early folder in my fotki.)

there are numerous factors to consider -- but basically the strength mild/med/super, and the length of the processing time, protecting your ends (if already processed), proper neutralizing & conditioning, & your technique, determine the end result. another key is to do strand test(s) on your hair, especially if you have different textures on different parts of your haead, they'll require different processing times.

starting with virgin hair, i discovered you could twist your hair and then apply the thio to it, making sure not to smooth too much, process as usual & the result would be uniform, coily/curly hair.

i'm now natural, but there's lot's of info on here about neutralization, texturizing techniques, moisture protein balance & the like, which i think will help you. hth

 

[Kurlee]

Thank YOU! ^^^