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[Smiley79]

Last week I used a keratin conditioner. This was my first shot of proper protein in a very long time (over 6 months) and I notice that the hair that was looking limp in my crown area, is definitely more coily and springy now.

Exactly, my crown hair hair and around it has been limp as well. I thought it was the CCS Alopecia, but I soon realized that my hair has not received any protein in a good while. I do have a jar of Aphogee Curlific...I think I'll give that a try this week.

 

[nycutiepie]

So far the soul magic is a fail on my hair. My hair is just as dry and it hasn't even been 24 hours In the future I will try to mix it with kccc or AIA. Maybe I can salvage it.

Oh no..........that Soul Magic was supposed to be like a HG product. That is a shame. I'm sorry.

 

[faithVA]

Oh no..........that Soul Magic was supposed to be like a HG product. That is a shame. I'm sorry.

I'm sure it is for many. Maybe it will be in another 3 months. My hair seems to shift after a while. Maybe it just has to hit another stage.

 

[snoop]

I wore a wash and go to the chiropractor on Saturday. He asked me if my hair was in mini braids. I usually have my hair in two strand twists or a hat (which he also commented on), so I was glad to see that he noticed some definition in my hair.

I was wondering, is there a way to tell the difference between mushy hair and very hydrated hair?

 

[GGsKin]

^^I'm thinking your hair shouldn't feel mushy. Wet or dry. IDK but surely it should feel soft but like it still has some structure to it. Not limp and lifeless (what the term mushy brings to mind).

 

[faithVA]

^^I'm thinking your hair shouldn't feel mushy. Wet or dry. IDK but surely it should feel soft but like it still has some structure to it. Not limp and lifeless (what the term mushy brings to mind).

I agree. Hydrated hair shouldn't feel mushy. It should feel strong and be defined. Mushy hair sounds like over conditioned hair that needs protein and less moisture, at least for a period.

 

[discodumpling]

I did not have time to do my hair this weekend and I'm still in flat twists from Thursday. I'm going to do a CLT probably tomorrow and continue the full cycle until Mother's Day weekend. I'm leaving that Sunday for an 8 day trip so I'll clarify and do the modified while I'm away. I think my hair has reached max hydration so it probably doesn't really matter much what regimen I do at this point.

Has anyone in here reached max hydration? Based on the pics, I think @AbsyBlvd and @discodumpling have?

Discodumpling has not reached MH! My hair could fro, frizz and uncoil anytime it feels like it! The top of my head (I call it the canopy) & my bang area are easy to hydrate. The perimeter is a BEAR and resists hydration. It STAYS thirsty which is another reason I try to soak my hair every day. Curls and coils and some uniformity are evident in that area when my hair is soaking wet so I know it has potential and possibility. It keeps me on the MHM quest!

 

[snoop]

@AbsyBlvd @faithVA

I'll try to upload a picture. I have no idea what I'm feeling. My hair seemed fine yesterday after the clay wash, but today was the first time in about a week that I decided to wear twists. The good thing is that the twists helped my hair to dry.

The change in texture (tighter curls from the process) and then perhaps the extra hydration that my hair is experiencing is new to me. I'm trying to figure out if I'm feeling a new level of hydrated hair or overly hydrated hair. (To add -- I started the process the the CLCT 1 week ago...I shouldn't need more protein so soon, should I?!?!)

 

[snoop]

Here are my pics after clay washing and with watered down flax seed gel.



Also, for those that wear stretched styles, do you find that its hard to get defined curls when you wash or do they come back once your hair gets wet?

 

[faithVA]

@AbsyBlvd @faithVA

I'll try to upload a picture. I have no idea what I'm feeling. My hair seemed fine yesterday after the clay wash, but today was the first time in about a week that I decided to wear twists. The good thing is that the twists helped my hair to dry.

The change in texture (tighter curls from the process) and then perhaps the extra hydration that my hair is experiencing is new to me. I'm trying to figure out if I'm feeling a new level of hydrated hair or overly hydrated hair. (To add -- I started the process the the CLCT 1 week ago...I shouldn't need more protein so soon, should I?!?!)

No you shouldn't need protein so soon but that may depend on when you last did protein before you started the regimen. Just keep an eye on it.

Your hair looks fine in your pics. You have some definition forming but not at max hydration yet.

 

[faithVA]

Here are my pics after clay washing and with watered down flax seed gel.

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Also, for those that wear stretched styles, do you find that its hard to get defined curls when you wash or do they come back once your hair gets wet?

My hair has never been defined so I can't tell much difference. I don't wear wngs much so it's not that big a deal. But even with my styling my hair has more coils with my wngs now than 3 months ago.

 

[Holla4mom]

Thanks for the welcome. I do feel good about the regimen so far. If it ain't broke...

You may have already mentioned this in an earlier thread ( pls forgive me I can't read through 118 pages right now) but why have you chosen to modify? I see many people do and Im curious if it's just to save time.

I tried the Modified method because it was simpler, but in all honesty, I didn't think it would work as well. However, I had better definition without the conditioner, which means my hair was getting hydrated better without the conditioner coating it and building up. Now I do the CLCT every 2 weeks and am experimenting with other ways to keep it well conditioned. I actually miss my conditioner, because conditioners smell so good but my hair doesn't need it very much since it's low porosity.

 

[GGsKin]

@snoop Your hair looks like your are progressing nicely. It doesn't look like it feels mushy. Your coils look springy just not as defined yet.

 

[snoop]

@snoop Your hair looks like your are progressing nicely. It doesn't look like it feels mushy. Your coils look springy just not as defined yet.

Thanks! I think I just need to keep my hair stretched and separated so that it can dry properly and I won't run into issues with mushy hair.

 

[tashboog]

I really don't want to do my mid-week wash cuz my loose twist look so good and moisturized . I think I will stretch my wash out to day 4 this week . Also I've been on the modified version for 2 months and my hair is doing much better on this regimen plus it's quicker. I've been testing my leave-ins and now I think I've got a good combo to where I can get good twist outs and braid outs. I've also been using a very diluted acv spray as my first step after rinsing out the clay. So my leave-in combo is I spray my hair with diluted acv then I apply the Blueroze flax cream gel on very wet hair then I let it sit for 15 min with a plastic cap. After that, I seal with argan oil and apply diluted kccc. I did a twist and curl last week with this combo and I got great results. Btw, I'm a high po gal so I have to apply products to wet hair in order to keep some of the moisture in .

 

[AJellyCake]

If my hair asks for it, it makes no difference what anyone else says or is doing. I NEED curl activator!!

I feel that. It hasn't impeded your ability to attain max hydration?

 

[KiWiStyle]

Hi everyone! I'm working on trying to get my coils stay defined after my gel dries, I've given up on getting definition without product. I'm letting my hair grow so maybe it just need length but I think that's just me being optimistic.

I have been using KCCC religiously since day one and I'm thinking its not heavy enough. It takes so much gel and drippy wet hair for most of my hair to define and even then, it frizzes out when dry. If I use less water, the gel doesn't do much. My hair is super fine and has no weight on its own and its my belief that the kccc may be too light for my seen. Can you recommend a heavier gel please? All the approved gels I've seen all seem to have the loose and watery consistency as well..are you having sustained good results with an unapproved gel?

 

[KiWiStyle]

So far the soul magic is a fail on my hair. My hair is just as dry and it hasn't even been 24 hours In the future I will try to mix it with kccc or AIA. Maybe I can salvage it.

@faithVA have you tried combining the two products; AIA and KCCC gels? If so, how did it work.? This morning I seriously considered going to buy the AIA gel because I always did have nice results with that line. I want to combine it with the kccc as well. I have the smoothing gel by AIA but I didn't chance it but I read somewhere that the two gels are very similar.

 

[faithVA]

@faithVA have you tried combining the two products; AIA and KCCC gels? If so, how did it work.? This morning I seriously considered going to buy the AIA gel because I always did have nice results with that line. I want to combine it with the kccc as well. I have the smoothing gel by AIA but I didn't chance it but I read somewhere that the two gels are very similar.

No, I don't have any more AIA. I used the last. I'm not sure I would combine them though since they act so similar on my hair. I would probably combine the kccc with the soul magic to see how that works.

Go buy a small jar of the AIA so you can see how it works. I think Sally's may be having a sale this week.

 

[Guinan]

Here are my pics after clay washing and with watered down flax seed gel.

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Also, for those that wear stretched styles, do you find that its hard to get defined curls when you wash or do they come back once your hair gets wet?

I mainly wear twistouts. When i wet my hair or wash it will curl up.

 

[KiWiStyle]

No, I don't have any more AIA. I used the last. I'm not sure I would combine them though since they act so similar on my hair. I would probably combine the kccc with the soul magic to see how that works.

Go buy a small jar of the AIA so you can see how it works. I think Sally's may be having a sale this week.

Thanks! I'll pick up a bottle today. I saw a YouTube review that says AIA and kccc has the same consistency but we'll see.

 

[GGsKin]

Thanks! I'll pick up a bottle today. I saw a YouTube review that says AIA and kccc has the same consistency but we'll see.

AIA is a smoother/ looser. KCCC is more gloopy/ snotty in texture.

 

[tashboog]

Can you recommend a heavier gel please? All the approved gels I've seen all seem to have the loose and watery consistency as well..are you having sustained good results with an unapproved gel?

@KiWiStyle When I was on the BHM forum pinkecube recommended the Giovanni gel as a thick gel option. I did try it and it is thicker but it also leaves a harder gel cast then some of the custard type approved gels. You may want to try it to see if it'll weigh down your hair. I would recommend applying a light oil before applying this gel so that your gel cast isn't too crunchy.

 

[Evolving78]

Hi everyone! I'm working on trying to get my coils stay defined after my gel dries, I've given up on getting definition without product. I'm letting my hair grow so maybe it just need length but I think that's just me being optimistic.

I have been using KCCC religiously since day one and I'm thinking its not heavy enough. It takes so much gel and drippy wet hair for most of my hair to define and even then, it frizzes out when dry. If I use less water, the gel doesn't do much. My hair is super fine and has no weight on its own and its my belief that the kccc may be too light for my seen. Can you recommend a heavier gel please? All the approved gels I've seen all seem to have the loose and watery consistency as well..are you having sustained good results with an unapproved gel?

That stuff just give me soft frizzy coils, and not much definition. Ecostyler gel does the trick for me. If i want to refresh my style, I just use a watery spray. If not, I cowash and do this as a wash and go. The gel keeps my hair from knotting and tangling up!

 

[Evolving78]

Is activator gel ok to use?

 

[faithVA]

That stuff just give me soft frizzy coils, and not much definition. Ecostyler gel does the trick for me. If i want to refresh my style, I just use a watery spray. If not, I cowash and do this as a wash and go. The gel keeps my hair from knotting and tangling up!

Yeah but if she is going to use ecostyler all of the time she is going to have to be careful with the protein in some of them. Initially eco seems to work for a lot of ladies but day after day it can cause a lot of breakage.

 

[Evolving78]

Yeah but if she is going to use ecostyler all of the time she is going to have to be careful with the protein in some of them. Initially eco seems to work for a lot of ladies but day after day it can cause a lot of breakage.

I agree! I cowashed daily with using that and shampooed weekly.

 

[faithVA]

I agree! I cowashed daily with using that and shampooed weekly.

Yeah, I just wanted her to be aware. There is a reason it was omitted from MHM. Anyone deciding to use it really needs to understand what they are using and possible outcomes.

 

[Evolving78]

Yeah, I just wanted her to be aware. There is a reason it was omitted from MHM. Anyone deciding to use it really needs to understand what they are using and possible outcomes.

Does the AIA jelly work well? Is it similar to curl activator gels?

 

[faithVA]

Does the AIA jelly work well? Is it similar to curl activator gels?

It works well on my hair because it is fairly heavy and forces curl definition. I have never used any gels like ecostyler though so I can't compare. But because it is more natural I am thinking it is not going to be like an ecostyler. To me it is similar to kccc but more defining.

I haven't used any synthetic gels so I really can't compare it to curl activator gels either. I try to keep the synthetic ingredients off my scalp if I can. I have really only tried the natural gels.