MHM Hangout

[Cattypus1]

I don't think bentonite is the clay to try this method with. Good luck. Hopefully the bentonite leaves your hair miisturized. Standard shipping if the clay probably takes two weeks.

You are woman, hear you roar! I have no clay on hand so I'm going to defer to you on this. Bentonite was against my better judgement anyway and against my prior experience with it. I'm gonna do a straight cleanse and DC with heat and get over myself. Thanks for turning me around, FaithVA.

 

[nycutiepie]

Pics from full cycle completed today. I love that I can do the whole shebang or the revised shorter method. I will be upping my washes this week.

Your hair is coming along very nicely with this method. You're going to be an inspiration to many and your pics are going to be the proof that MHM works. Thanks!

 

[nycutiepie]

I'm not really sure. Everyone seems to be afraid to try the new method but that's my only recommendation.

I'm too lazy to check but is this new method "sanctioned" on the website or by pinkcube or msdeekay? Has anyone been doing it long enough to comment on the long-term/semi-long term effects?

 

[trebell]

I'm not really sure. Everyone seems to be afraid to try the new method but that's my only recommendation.

Ok. I haven't been able to read thru this while thread bc of school so I really don't have the details.

I'm in class now Monday -Saturday.

 

[nycutiepie]

Food for thought ladies.

Bentonite and Rhassoul are the same but very different, as are other clays. Perhaps the mineral content or ph content in one or the other agrees with your hair? Perhaps one offers more conditioning, cleansing or detangling properties for YOUR hair than the other?

Rhassoul Mineral Content
Silica- 58%
Aluminum- 2.47%
Iron- 0.64%
Sodium- 2.3%
Magnesium- 25.2%
Calcium- 2.34%
Moisture- 8%

pH of 6.9-7.5

Bentonite Mineral Content
Silica- 61.4%
Aluminum- 18.1%
Iron- 3.5%
Sodium- 2.3%
Magnesium- 1.7%
Calcium- 0.04%
Titanium- 0.02%
Potassium- 0.01%
Moisture- 7.8%

pH of 8.3-9

This info comes from Minimalist Beauty. and other web sources.

Having used rhassoul for various skin and hair applications over the years I am partial to it. But now seeing the little bit of extras in the bentonite I would like to try some to see if it agrees with my hair! Ladies who have used both which do you prefer?

Thanks for posting this because these numbers are interesting. I'm analytical and would love to further understand the benefits of each item listed, as well as the effects on hair individually and when combined. I don't have the time to do the research

 

[faithVA]

You are woman, hear you roar! I have no clay on hand so I'm going to defer to you on this. Bentonite was against my better judgement anyway and against my prior experience with it. I'm gonna do a straight cleanse and DC with heat and get over myself. Thanks for turning me around, FaithVA.

I feel better now. I will never, well almost never tell you not to do something but I will let you know if I feel a tremble in my heart. . Just wait it out. Your hair will be fine until your clay comes in.

 

[faithVA]

I'm too lazy to check but is this new method "sanctioned" on the website or by pinkcube or msdeekay? Has anyone been doing it long enough to comment on the long-term/semi-long term effects?

Pinkecube and msdeekay have commented on Instagram. And are both using it based on their last Instagram conversation. Unfortunately there are so many conversations they aren't keeping them all updated. Msdeekay did recommend it to me in email. I don't think pinkecube will be updating anything she has stepped back out of the picture for a while.

No long term studies. The same as with the original method.

I don't think trying it for one wash will hurt anyone. It doesn't mean they have to completely switch. It can at least give people another option for midweek washes. If my dry, undefined hair can handle it, anyone's can.

MHM is going to keep undergoing changes as more people do it. MHM is just one year old so its still pretty new. This is just one of many changes I see coming.

 

[faithVA]

I was supposed to wash last night but didn't feel like it. I rinsed and then baggied overnight. I was suppose to do clay this morning and didn't feel like doing that either. So I just let my hair dry loose with no product. Surprisingly my hair is soft . its shrunken but not matted down to my head.

In putting in two strand twists and will then rinse in the shower and put on some oil. Maybe I will feel like doing clay tomorrow or Monday.

 

[GGsKin]

Your hair is coming along very nicely with this method. You're going to be an inspiration to many and your pics are going to be the proof that MHM works. Thanks!

nycutiepie Thank you. It really is working for me. I have no real complaints (as yet).

I agree with you about the bentonite clay- there's just something about it. So it's a little sad for me that I'm almost out of my aztec brand

 

[nycutiepie]

Pinkecube and msdeekay have commented on Instagram. And are both using it based on their last Instagram conversation. Unfortunately there are so many conversations they aren't keeping them all updated. Msdeekay did recommend it to me in email. I don't think pinkecube will be updating anything she has stepped back out of the picture for a while.

No long term studies. The same as with the original method.

I don't think trying it for one wash will hurt anyone. It doesn't mean they have to completely switch. It can at least give people another option for midweek washes. If my dry, undefined hair can handle it, anyone's can.

MHM is going to keep undergoing changes as more people do it. MHM is just one year old so its still pretty new. This is just one of many changes I see coming.

Okay thanks. Your points are valid. This method is actually a viable opportunity for someone to capitalize financially. A starting point would be to consolidate all the information in a single place (i.e., book, paid subscription website, etc.). I understand that pinkcube and msdeekay have lives like everyone else but the fact that the official website is not updated regularly is unprofessional imho.

 

[nycutiepie]

@nycutiepie Thank you. It really is working for me. I have no real complaints (as yet).

I agree with you about the bentonite clay- there's just something about it. So it's a little sad for me that I'm almost out of my aztec brand

You're very welcome. Your hair looks like parts of mine so I'm watching you :wink2:.

That sucks about running out. I'm assuming they don't sell it locally? I'm in NY and I see it in every health food/vitamin store I visit.

 

[trebell]

My hair using Camille (sp?) rose curl makers.

 

[GGsKin]

You're very welcome. Your hair looks like parts of mine so I'm watching you :wink2:.

That sucks about running out. I'm assuming they don't sell it locally? I'm in NY and I see it in every health food/vitamin store I visit.

I wish. I find myself walking into random health food/ vitamin shops to see if I'll be lucky and find something on the ground that I can use. So far, no joy on aztec clay. The Whole Foods near me doesn't appear to stock it. But I'm sure I'll be back to triple check lol.

I just need people to stop trying to charge £20 for the stuff.

 

[nycutiepie]

trebell Your hair looks very nice. The curls are pretty. If you don't mind, what hair type are you predominantly and was your hair curling like that prior to MHM?

 

[nycutiepie]

I wish. I find myself walking into random health food/ vitamin shops to see if I'll be lucky and find something on the ground that I can use. So far, no joy on aztec clay. The Whole Foods near me doesn't appear to stock it. But I'm sure I'll be back to triple check lol.

I just need people to stop trying to charge £20 for the stuff.

What??? That is robbery. I'm getting it for about $5 a jar.

 

[faithVA]

My hair using Camille (sp?) rose curl makers.

Very pretty and your cut is cute.

 

[trebell]

trebell Your hair looks very nice. The curls are pretty. If you don't mind, what hair type are you predominantly and was your hair curling like that prior to MHM?

Ty. I have no idea my hair type. I've been natural forever and I haven't figure this out. I have fine hair strands with a looser curl pattern. But my hair grows up rather than down (does this make sense lol) from the roots and they seem to have a mind of there own. My hair was like this prior to this method. I've always had retention issues. I would get to a certain length then do a big chop. This is my 3rd one.

 

[hairtimes5]

Food for thought ladies.

Bentonite and Rhassoul are the same but very different, as are other clays. Perhaps the mineral content or ph content in one or the other agrees with your hair? Perhaps one offers more conditioning, cleansing or detangling properties for YOUR hair than the other?

Rhassoul Mineral Content
Silica- 58%
Aluminum- 2.47%
Iron- 0.64%
Sodium- 2.3%
Magnesium- 25.2%
Calcium- 2.34%
Moisture- 8%

pH of 6.9-7.5

Bentonite Mineral Content
Silica- 61.4%
Aluminum- 18.1%
Iron- 3.5%
Sodium- 2.3%
Magnesium- 1.7%
Calcium- 0.04%
Titanium- 0.02%
Potassium- 0.01%
Moisture- 7.8%

pH of 8.3-9

This info comes from Minimalist Beauty. and other web sources.

Having used rhassoul for various skin and hair applications over the years I am partial to it. But now seeing the little bit of extras in the bentonite I would like to try some to see if it agrees with my hair! Ladies who have used both which do you prefer?

I prefer rhassoul over bentonite however I haven't been having a good experience with any clays for the last month and a half or so. I've used bentonite, rhassoul, Moroccan red, and Terresentials. My hair looks great afterwards but feels stripped and dry. I just ordered a clay product that I've seen good reviews on. If this doesn't work I'm done with clay and moving on to the regular ole curly girl method.

 

[Karmi]

I'm doing a modified full cycle today.

I rinsed with diluted apple cider vinegar
I'm DCing for a hour with SM JBCO masque (no baking soda).
Will DC with French clay mixed with warm coconut milk for at least an hour.

No sure what I'll use for my leave in or what I will style with. I really want to get back to wearing my WNG for at least 4 days to cut down on manipulation. Eco styler gel is tempting me. But I might go with CM Curl Maker. Have to stop being lazy and just order sweet soul magic.

 

[GGsKin]

What??? That is robbery. I'm getting it for about $5 a jar.

This is why I refuse to restock until I can find it at a better price. I have sodium bentonite coming out of my ears and my rhassoul is pretty well stocked too. And now my conditioner deliveries have arrived, all I want is some Aztec clay....

 

[werenumber2]

Where do traditional shampoos and protein DCs fit into the picture?

 

[Cattypus1]

My hair using Camille (sp?) rose curl makers.

Love your curls!

 

[GGsKin]

Where do traditional shampoos and protein DCs fit into the picture?

They don't really. You could still use them, but low porosity hair that was struggling with related issues beforehand, may encounter setbacks with regards to hydration or curl clumping.

 

[discodumpling]

regarding the modified method: I think that it should only be undertaken AFTER your hair has reached a comfortable hydration level. I stuck with the original method until my coils became consistent in more places than not. Then I began evaluating what parts of the method really spoke to my spirit and were nurturing my hair and stuck with that.

My hair doesn't need the cleansing steps as much as the conditioning. Conditioning from clay, conditioning from my leave-in and even from my styler/gel. As with any regi occasional protein treatments via the cherry lola (or a plain old DC with full fat yogurt and your favourite oil) are helpful. It should be up to YOUR hair and not a predetermined schedule designed for someone else's hair.

MHM has reawakened my interest in the science of my hair! We have all been stuck on MOISTURIZATION when it seems we should have been looking at HYDRATION all along!

 

[discodumpling]

I prefer rhassoul over bentonite however I haven't been having a good experience with any clays for the last month and a half or so. I've used bentonite, rhassoul, Moroccan red, and Terresentials. My hair looks great afterwards but feels stripped and dry. I just ordered a clay product that I've seen good reviews on. If this doesn't work I'm done with clay and moving on to the regular ole curly girl method.

What have you been mixing your clay (s) with? And have you clarified or chelated prior to using it.

 

[discodumpling]

Where do traditional shampoos and protein DCs fit into the picture?

I would shampoo as needed. Even before MHM I only used shampoo every 6- 8 weeks or after I used hard core products that left my hair feeling dirty. The cherry lola treatment in the MHM process is a protein treatment. You can do cherry lola or use up your commercial DC's. MHM just aim for "natural" ingredients. But I understand the need to use up your stash!

 

[Holla4mom]

Ok. I haven't been able to read thru this while thread bc of school so I really don't have the details.

I'm in class now Monday -Saturday.

Hi, guys! I wanted to come out of lurking long enough to say that MissDeeKay did have a pic of her hair after using the Modified version (just clay and gel) on her facebook page. (Back to lurking for now

 

[hairtimes5]

What have you been mixing your clay (s) with? And have you clarified or chelated prior to using it.

I've done the MHM recipe with water, oil, and honey. I've sone water and a little acv. I've done acv only. I've done water only. I've done water and several oils. This is just what I can remember right now, I feel like I've done it all. I shampooed with a clarifying shampoo today for step 1 thinking that's the problem only to end up with the same dry, stripped feeling hair and it even looked worse this time. My wng came out good though

 

[trebell]

Hi, guys! I wanted to come out of lurking long enough to say that MissDeeKay did have a pic of her hair after using the Modified version (just clay and gel) on her facebook page. (Back to lurking for now

You are so sweet. Thank you. I don't follow her on FB. But I'll go look.

 

[HopefulOne]

I am trying the new method, I figure if Faith tried it I would give it a try. I wet my hair and just put the clay on. I used bentonite whipping cream molasses olive oil. I am going to leave it overnight as I usually do and see what my results are. It would be great if I could get the same tangle free results with much less effort.