MHM Hangout

[faithVA]

Mine took about a 6 days to ripen. I left them out in the kitchen

Thanks. They only sell green stuff here They will never be ripe in a week if I don't force it. Plantains take much longer than banana's to ripen.

I found on the .net to cook them at 300 for 1 hour and then put them in a paper bag with an apple. That should help them ripen faster.

Or I can put them in the microwave for 15 and then up them in the bag.

I'm going to try the oven and see how that goes.

 

[faithVA]

Yep I did! I didn't have a stocking/panty hose to strain it so I used a regular strainer and it was very thin so im not sure if that messed up my results. I also added a bit of argan oil and agave to it

hmm, Thanks. I don't think you messed it up. It's supposed to be thin so you can put it in a spray bottle.

 

[GGsKin]

I'm going to the store to get my bananas and plantains for my CLCT next weekend. I was supposed to buy them last week to give them enough time to ripen but with the weather I procrastinated. Now I don't think I have enough time to let them ripen. I'm going to research to see if there is a way that I can force them to ripen. I may have to just throw them in the oven on low to force them to break down.

Good idea about the oven. If mine aren't ripe enough I usually squish it in my hand before plopping it in the blender. I've never had to struggle with bits.

 

[werenumber2]

I did my second round of MHM on Wednesday night (3 days after the first) and will do the next tomorrow night. My steps were:

1) Trader Joe's TTT + baking soda under a shower cap for 10 minutes
2) Watered-down Crece Pelo DC for 15 minutes
3) Rhassoul with coconut milk and hot water for 30+ minutes
4) Watered-down Tresemme Radiant Volume for leave-in
5) Homemade flaxseed gel


I'm just wondering where my other hair products fit in. I'll have to check the MHM site to make sure none of the products in my arsenal are counterproductive to the method.

 

[faithVA]

Good idea about the oven. If mine aren't ripe enough I usually squish it in my hand before plopping it in the blender. I've never had to struggle with bits.

I don't have an issue with the banana. But the plantain isn't so forgiving. It really has to be ripened to blend well. I had it for over a week last time and it was just barely starting to turn yellow and still very hard on the inside.

 

[faithVA]

werenumber2[/USER];21202753]I did my second round of MHM on Wednesday night (3 days after the first) and will do the next tomorrow night. My steps were:

1) Trader Joe's TTT + baking soda under a shower cap for 10 minutes
2) Watered-down Crece Pelo DC for 15 minutes
3) Rhassoul with coconut milk and hot water for 30+ minutes
4) Watered-down Tresemme Radiant Volume for leave-in
5) Homemade flaxseed gel


I'm just wondering where my other hair products fit in. I'll have to check the MHM site to make sure none of the products in my arsenal are counterproductive to the method.

What other hair products are you thinking of?

 

[GGsKin]

Doing a full cycle with diluted Faith In Nature Seaweed and Citrus conditioner with 1tsp BS. Currently DCing with same conditioner. I'll sleep in my clay mix (rhassoul/ calcium bentonite/ water/ ACV/ molasses) and in the morning, apply my leave in (KCKT) and gel (KCCC)

 

[werenumber2]

What other hair products are you thinking of?

Shescentit Coco Creme Leave-In
APB Leave-In
APB Hair Cream

I also use Loreal Out of Bed to style my hair during the day. I feel like its ingredients would put it on the naughty list but I have a practically brand new jar.

Water (Aqua), PVP, PEG 40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Triethanolamine, Carbomer, Fragrance, PEG 90M, VP/Dimethylaminoethylmethacrylate Copolymer, DMDM Hydantoin, Polyquaternium 11, Polystyrene, PEG/PPG 22/24 Dimethicone, Hydroxypropyl Cellulose, Limonene, Linalool, Pentasodium Pentetate, Benzyl Salicylate, Benzophenone 4, Hydroxyisohexl 3 Cyclohexene Carboxaldehyde, Butylphenyl Methlyproprional, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate

 

[faithVA]

werenumber2;21202799[/USER]]Shescentit Coco Creme Leave-In
APB Leave-In
APB Hair Cream

I also use Loreal Out of Bed to style my hair during the day. I feel like its ingredients would put it on the naughty list but I have a practically brand new jar.

Water (Aqua), PVP, PEG 40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Triethanolamine, Carbomer, Fragrance, PEG 90M, VP/Dimethylaminoethylmethacrylate Copolymer, DMDM Hydantoin, Polyquaternium 11, Polystyrene, PEG/PPG 22/24 Dimethicone, Hydroxypropyl Cellulose, Limonene, Linalool, Pentasodium Pentetate, Benzyl Salicylate, Benzophenone 4, Hydroxyisohexl 3 Cyclohexene Carboxaldehyde, Butylphenyl Methlyproprional, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate

Ok. The 1st three probably don't have no no ingredients. One of them has glycerin and that is just a matter of whether your hair deals with glycerine or not. The only other thing about the 3 is that over time they will probably cause some type of build up because of the ingredients. I wouldn't say they are no-no products though. You may just slow down your results with the build up.

Almost anything you can get in a local store is going to have No-No ingredients. So the L'Oreal is definitely on the No-No list.

I say try the regimen 30 days without it and then use what you need. As you do the regimen you will find what works and what doesn't. If you aren't wearing a WNG you can get away with more products than you could if you were doing WNGs.

 

[HopefulOne]

If you are talking about the new method, yes. You go straight to clay. Skip the leave-in and go straight to styler.

It's not clear to most people. This is a big shift from the beginning.

As usual, you get me straight. So opening the cuticle to allow the dc to sink in is gone along with the dc. Does that mean you just use clay every two or three days and DC when you feel like it?

 

[Ajna]

Sweet soul magic is the same as hello curly which is the same as the original UFD.

Fantastic!!
Thanks for letting me know

 

[faithVA]

As usual, you get me straight. So opening the cuticle to allow the dc to sink in is gone along with the dc. Does that mean you just use clay every two or three days and DC when you feel like it?

The clay is supposed to open your cuticles enough to let the water in and it is also your conditioning step. There is no mention of deep conditioning at all. Its all done during the clay step.

 

[HopefulOne]

The clay is supposed to open your cuticles enough to let the water in and it is also your conditioning step. There is no mention of deep conditioning at all. Its all done during the clay step.

Thanks faith I always appreciate your answers. I am going to stick with the old method unless there has been some negative point about the old way. My hair feels so good after the bs and the DC and i love leaving my clay on overnight. I am at full APL moving toward BSL and I don't want to do anything to cause a setback.

 

[hairtimes5]

Is it in store?

I get it online and I see aharri23 already answered your other question about it being the original UFD curly magic.

ETA: Just saw that it wasn't you who asked but someone else.

 

[discodumpling]

Food for thought ladies.

Bentonite and Rhassoul are the same but very different, as are other clays. Perhaps the mineral content or ph content in one or the other agrees with your hair? Perhaps one offers more conditioning, cleansing or detangling properties for YOUR hair than the other?

Rhassoul Mineral Content
Silica- 58%
Aluminum- 2.47%
Iron- 0.64%
Sodium- 2.3%
Magnesium- 25.2%
Calcium- 2.34%
Moisture- 8%

pH of 6.9-7.5

Bentonite Mineral Content
Silica- 61.4%
Aluminum- 18.1%
Iron- 3.5%
Sodium- 2.3%
Magnesium- 1.7%
Calcium- 0.04%
Titanium- 0.02%
Potassium- 0.01%
Moisture- 7.8%

pH of 8.3-9

This info comes from Minimalist Beauty. and other web sources.

Having used rhassoul for various skin and hair applications over the years I am partial to it. But now seeing the little bit of extras in the bentonite I would like to try some to see if it agrees with my hair! Ladies who have used both which do you prefer?

 

[GGsKin]

Food for thought ladies.

Bentonite and Rhassoul are the same but very different, as are other clays. Perhaps the mineral content or ph content in one or the other agrees with your hair? Perhaps one offers more conditioning, cleansing or detangling properties for YOUR hair than the other?

Rhassoul Mineral Content
Silica- 58%
Aluminum- 2.47%
Iron- 0.64%
Sodium- 2.3%
Magnesium- 25.2%
Calcium- 2.34%
Moisture- 8%

pH of 6.9-7.5

Bentonite Mineral Content
Silica- 61.4%
Aluminum- 18.1%
Iron- 3.5%
Sodium- 2.3%
Magnesium- 1.7%
Calcium- 0.04%
Titanium- 0.02%
Potassium- 0.01%
Moisture- 7.8%

pH of 8.3-9

This info comes from Minimalist Beauty. and other web sources.

Having used rhassoul for various skin and hair applications over the years I am partial to it. But now seeing the little bit of extras in the bentonite I would like to try some to see if it agrees with my hair! Ladies who have used both which do you prefer?

I love the softness I get with rhassoul. Even with my love of calcium bentonite, I don't get that level of softness upon rinsing.

My hair seems to coil more with bentonite clay vs rhassoul. With pure rhassoul, my hair appears much more elongated/ flattened.

I love to mix the two now. Since faithVA made the suggestion, I've been doing it as my main mix. Sometimes I vary the amounts of each, because I feel like the bentonite is more cleansing/ has more absorbtion, and rhassoul is more conditioning to my hair.

 

[KiWiStyle]

Food for thought ladies.

Bentonite and Rhassoul are the same but very different, as are other clays. Perhaps the mineral content or ph content in one or the other agrees with your hair? Perhaps one offers more conditioning, cleansing or detangling properties for YOUR hair than the other?

Rhassoul Mineral Content
Silica- 58%
Aluminum- 2.47%
Iron- 0.64%
Sodium- 2.3%
Magnesium- 25.2%
Calcium- 2.34%
Moisture- 8%

pH of 6.9-7.5

Bentonite Mineral Content
Silica- 61.4%
Aluminum- 18.1%
Iron- 3.5%
Sodium- 2.3%
Magnesium- 1.7%
Calcium- 0.04%
Titanium- 0.02%
Potassium- 0.01%
Moisture- 7.8%

pH of 8.3-9

This info comes from Minimalist Beauty. and other web sources.

Having used rhassoul for various skin and hair applications over the years I am partial to it. But now seeing the little bit of extras in the bentonite I would like to try some to see if it agrees with my hair! Ladies who have used both which do you prefer?

Thanks for posting the comparison chart. I'm just about all out of Rhassoul and I need to order more, I might purchase some Bentonite today to see how my hair responds to it. If I don't like it, I can always mix the two when I get more Rhassoul.

Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF

 

[faithVA]

Food for thought ladies.

Bentonite and Rhassoul are the same but very different, as are other clays. Perhaps the mineral content or ph content in one or the other agrees with your hair? Perhaps one offers more conditioning, cleansing or detangling properties for YOUR hair than the other?

Rhassoul Mineral Content
Silica- 58%
Aluminum- 2.47%
Iron- 0.64%
Sodium- 2.3%
Magnesium- 25.2%
Calcium- 2.34%
Moisture- 8%

pH of 6.9-7.5

Bentonite Mineral Content
Silica- 61.4%
Aluminum- 18.1%
Iron- 3.5%
Sodium- 2.3%
Magnesium- 1.7%
Calcium- 0.04%
Titanium- 0.02%
Potassium- 0.01%
Moisture- 7.8%

pH of 8.3-9

This info comes from Minimalist Beauty. and other web sources.

Having used rhassoul for various skin and hair applications over the years I am partial to it. But now seeing the little bit of extras in the bentonite I would like to try some to see if it agrees with my hair! Ladies who have used both which do you prefer?

Thank you for posting this. I have tried both and prefer the rhassoul. I found the bentonite to be very drying. It seems to be very high in aluminum and iron which is interesting.

I may try mixing them to see if I get good results. For right now bentonite by itself is too risky.

 

[trebell]

FaithVA My roots are still fighting moisture. I'll take a picture after class. I tried the CM curl maker. It's okay. I may pick me up some kccc to go back and forth. I'm going to get the rhassoul today. What can I do to combat the roots?

 

[Cattypus1]

I ordered some Rhassoul from BNB last week during the sale (Thanks FaithVA) but it's not here yet . I think I'm gonna have to go bentonite today. I'm going modified MHM (clay and gel). Hopefully this will not result in a setback.

 

[trebell]

I ordered some Rhassoul from BNB last week during the sale (Thanks FaithVA) but it's not here yet . I think I'm gonna have to go bentonite today. I'm going modified MHM (clay and gel). Hopefully this will not result in a setback.

Good luck.

 

[GGsKin]

Pics from full cycle completed today. I love that I can do the whole shebang or the revised shorter method. I will be upping my washes this week.

ETA: I did a light dusting. Trying to keep my ends from tapering out and getting thin on me. The last thing I need is thinner hair.

 

[faithVA]

FaithVA My roots are still fighting moisture. I'll take a picture after class. I tried the CM curl maker. It's okay. I may pick me up some kccc to go back and forth. I'm going to get the rhassoul today. What can I do to combat the roots?

How long have you been doing the method? trebell

 

[faithVA]

I ordered some Rhassoul from BNB last week during the sale (Thanks FaithVA) but it's not here yet . I think I'm gonna have to go bentonite today. I'm going modified MHM (clay and gel). Hopefully this will not result in a setback.

I don't think bentonite is the clay to try this method with. Good luck. Hopefully the bentonite leaves your hair miisturized.
Standard shipping if the clay probably takes two weeks.

 

[nycutiepie]

Thanks faith I always appreciate your answers. I am going to stick with the old method unless there has been some negative point about the old way. My hair feels so good after the bs and the DC and i love leaving my clay on overnight. I am at full APL moving toward BSL and I don't want to do anything to cause a setback.

I would love to shorten the time but I'm not trying to fix what's not broken. The original method is working for me. Something about relying solely on the clay for conditioning just seems odd to me, but I don't have any scientific proof as to why.

 

[trebell]

How long have you been doing the method? trebell

Since last year I think around summer/fall.

 

[Honey Bee]

Would normal/ high porosity hair benefit from the modified method? Does DubaiDee have anything special to say about hi-po heads?

 

[nycutiepie]

I love the softness I get with rhassoul. Even with my love of calcium bentonite, I don't get that level of softness upon rinsing.

My hair seems to coil more with bentonite clay vs rhassoul. With pure rhassoul, my hair appears much more elongated/ flattened.

I love to mix the two now. Since @faithVA made the suggestion, I've been doing it as my main mix. Sometimes I vary the amounts of each, because I feel like the bentonite is more cleansing/ has more absorbtion, and rhassoul is more conditioning to my hair.

Your comparison explains exactly how my hair behaves with both. I'm doing a cycle now and I'm mixing both which is what I did the last time. The rhassoul is more moisturizing and less drying but something about the bentonite feels more strengthening.

 

[faithVA]

Would normal/ high porosity hair benefit from the modified method? Does DubaiDee have anything special to say about hi-po heads?

The only change she does for high po is to do an avj or acv spritz after the clay. Its one method for all porosities.

 

[faithVA]

Since last year I think around summer/fall.

I'm not really sure. Everyone seems to be afraid to try the new method but that's my only recommendation.