Curly Girl vs. Tightly Curly method

[faithVA]

@faithVA: Cool- I still haven't tried the Heaven in Hair yet. Let me know how it turns out. Recently I have just been co-washing with Tresemme Naturals and leaving that in and it's been enough without needing any gels for my WnGs. Me likey

I will definitely let you know. Will probably try it on Friday.

I don't have any curls really The gel just softens it up and smoothes my twists. And it seems to be keeping my hair from drying it.

 

[Giselle685]

There is a low porosity support forum if you want to read further beyond what I'm saying here. None of the symptoms apply to 100% of heads.

Lots of people do the strand test. Take a clean strand of hair right after you shampoo and place it in a glass of room temperature water. Low porosity hair floats.

Thing low porosity heads notice
1. It takes a while for the hair to get wet

2. Products sit on the hair vs. being absorbed. This is definitely true for things like butters and heavy creams.

3. It is resistant to chemical processes. Usually it takes a while to relax the hair.

4. For some color doesn't take easily. For rinses this is true for me. It was the same for henna. I use a permanent.

5. It takes a while for hair to dry, especially if product is applied.

6. Tends to be hard to moisturize. But once moisturized the hair will hold onto it.

7. Tends to like more alkaline products.

8. Cuticles open better with heat.

That's what I can think of off the top of my head.

You say all this which is 75 percent true. The sure fire way is to pull a strand and see if it can stay floating for 2 minutes. If it can you are probably ok and need more moisture.

 

[faithVA]

Giselle685[/USER];16232665]You say all this which is 75 percent true. The sure fire way is to pull a strand and see if it can stay floating for 2 minutes. If it can you are probably ok and need more moisture.

Were you addressing me or the person who originally asked the question? I was a bit confused.

The first thing I mentioned was the strand test.

There have been just different findings on the strand test. So people like to know of other things as well. Floating hair is usually not considered good from the different threads and posts I have read.

 

[Shadiyah]

I tried to pineapple my twistout last night which was a fail I ended up with a puff this morning. A nice puff but there was no moving past it. So I put Deva Curl No Poo on dry hair according to some online instructions. I rinsed. My hair felt weird in a way I can't describe. It felt hard and rough. So I put on some more No Poo to get a good wash. Next time I will prepoo with Tresemme Naturals because it is wetter. Then I will rinse and prepoo with Deva Curl No Poo.

I rinsed and put on the Deva One Conditioner. I let it sit while I showered. I then split each section into smaller sections to smooth it in. It did calm my hair down a bit from the No Poo. I rinsed and reapplied the Deva One, smoothed again. Deva One doesn't feel like it has any slip but when I started to finger detangle I noticed it had enough slip to finger detangle. I rinsed and finger detangled some more under running water.

The instructions say to apply Deva One as a leave-in sparingly. I had been apply the conditioner heavily to saturate my hair. Outside of the shower I applied the Deva One sort of sparingly I am a bit heavy handed. I let the conditioner sit on each section while I worked on other sections. I took down each section and applied the Deva Curl Angel and smoothed it in.

A Paul Mitchell brush came with my Deva Curl products. So I used it to comb through my hair. And I am not ashamed It worked better than the denman which just pulls my hair out. And after I combed through my hair I finger combed a bit. I may resume finger combing again later but for right now I'm cool with this brush.

I twisted each section into 2 to 3 twists. I put on my hot head cap and let everything soak in for 30 minutes. I will try to do 7 twists per section to see if I can get a decent twists out with 28 twists.

Not sure if I like the No Poo. I still like the Deva One Conditioner. I like the way the Angel goes on. It makes my hair feel smooth. It's hard to really rate them yet because they just aren't like other products. I will have to see how my hair feels in the morning when it dries.

This is week 6, wash 2. Going to use the Deva Curl products until I run out. Doubt if they make it 6 weeks.

faithVA I am sorry to tell you that I brought the deva curl trio and it did nothing for my hair and I mean nothing at all. that is why I stop buying all those high price products.

 

[faithVA]

Shadiyah[/URL];16234951]@faithVA I am sorry to tell you that I brought the deva curl trio and it did nothing for my hair and I mean nothing at all. that is why I stop buying all those high price products.

That's ok. My hair is much dryer than yours. Based on what I've seen you post in other threads most of these products seem like they would be too heavy for your hair. I also think they work best for people whose hair is really dehydated and nothing else works.

I don't know if they will do anything or not. It's worth a try. I know I can't really use cheap products on my hair. Suave, VO5, etc. My hair turns into wire.

So far I like them. I will have to see after 4 to 6 weeks though whether my hair hydrates or not. Of course I will keep updating.

 

[HanaKuroi]

I dreamt that I tried this and my hair was juicy and lush and twice as long. I was all up in the mirror in this dream. I kept pulling on my jumbo twists! Feeling sad now. Is this a sign?

 

[faithVA]

I dreamt that I tried this and my hair was juicy and lush and twice as long. I was all up in the mirror in this dream. I kept pulling on my jumbo twists! Feeling sad now. Is this a sign?

I like that dream. I want to have that dream

 

[faithVA]

Last night was Week 6, Wash 4. I got an extra wash in this week. I may have messed up week 7 though. Week 7 should start tonight but I'm not taking my hair down

I wore my hair in a flat twist out yesterday that worked out ok. It stayed moisturized most of the day even though it was hot. I prepooed with Tresemme Naturals and put my hair in 4 sections. I just wanted to soften my hair up before washing. I removed a few shed hairs. I rinsed and then shampooed with Deva Curl No Poo. It felt better than the 1st time. This is just an odd shampoo. I am fine with the no lather. I guess it has the same effect on my hair as an alkaline product. My cuticles seem to open, it feels like it will tangle and it gets puffy. So I tried not to manipulate it too much. It definitely feels clean and it doesn't feel stripped. My scalp is definitely thankful because with the conditioner only it did itch more.

I rinsed and then put in the Heaven in Hair Conditioning Treatment. I separated the hair in smaller sections and smoothed conditioner on each small section. I added more to my ends. It recommends if your scalp is dehydrated to rub it into your scalp. I definitely did this focusing more on my crown. I sat under my heat cap for 20 minutes. Then I added water and conditioner to each section, more to my ends and smoothed again. I sat under my heat cap for another 20 minutes. I then detangled with the Paul Mitchell brush. It felt really good on my hair right after coming from under the heat cap.

I rinsed and the results were pretty good. My hair never feels good after rinsing conditioner so I wasn't expecting anything exciting. I'm not sure how to describe how it felt. It felt really clean. It was still a bit puffy but it hung heavy, so I am hoping that meant it was more hydrated. It looked really good. Didn't notice any more curls.

I put the Deva One Conditioner on wet hair sparingly. I am thinking next time I will apply more though. My hair still isn't hydrated and I think using more will help me finger detangle. I let that sit for a bit then applied the Deva Curl Angel on each section and worked it through. I did a quick finger comb but not much. My hair was drying quickly.

I put castor/flax seed/wheat germ oil on my ends and then put in flat twists and sealed my ends with shea butter. My hair was easy to flat twists. My ends really only stuck together in my crown area. That area was really tight and I had to mist it again to work through the hair.

This morning I am very pleased with my hair. I have a wonderful shine to my hair. It is fairly soft and has some moisture. I think if I were to take it out for a flat twists out it would look decent and not frizzy and super dry like usual.

 

[NubianPrize]

Thanks so much. I will buy the curly girl book. The denman caused lots of breakage and ripped out my hair. I was in denial over it. I finger detangle and smooth only now. The denman use in the other method had me leery. NikkiGirl

I agree about the Denman.I can't use that thing either..it's a hair ripper for sure. I use a Tangle Teezer,Ouidad Double detangler, or one of my wide toothed Magic Star combs.I also use WEN fig & co wash with Trader Joes moisturizing conditioner or MegaTek.

 

[faithVA]

Today was Week 7, Wash 1. Going to make this quick because not excited about my hair today. Missed my wash day on Friday so starting Week 7 today.

Coated my hair with honey and Olive Oil, baggied overnight. Trying to boost my hydration. Rinsed. Washed my hair with lavendar and lemon mudwashes. Applied the Heaven in Hair Deep Conditioner around 8 am and rinse out around 1:00 pm. Switched between baggying, sitting under my heat cap and using my hot head cap.

Put Tresemme Naturals over the DC conditioner and worked it in. Rinsed. Reapplied Tresemme Naturals and let it soak in while I showered. Finger Detangled and rinsed.

Outside the shower put on Deva Curl One as a leave-in. Followed by quite a bit of Deva Curl Angel. It looked like it might curl but I definitely need a cut. Have a wedge thing going on As it started to dry the curls began to disappear. Put hair up into flat twists and let it dry.

When hair was dry, took out twists, remoistened with water/Deva One, sealed ends with oil and sealed strands with Shea Moisture Smoothie. Combed ends with Paul Mitchell brush and put hair back up into flat twists.

I think the Honey/EVOO and Heaven in Hair did help with my hydration but not enough. But I will repeat both. I am trying to follow the CG method more and put my cleanser on my scalp only and not my hair. Also trying to focus on detangling the hair from under the hair and not over.

Think my styles come out better if I let my hair dry more before styling. So next wash will apply Deva One and seal my ends with oil, let dry a bit and then add a styling product before twisting.

For the next week I am going to try conditioning my hair nightly or every other night to see if I can increase my hydration. But I need to see if I can style my hair in 30 to 45 minutes to be able to do it.

My results weren't bad today. I just wish they were more.

 

[HanaKuroi]

I randomly went into a salon/beauty super store and they had deva curl!!! I bought it and don't know how to use them. I am excited though

 

[faithVA]

HanaKuroi[/USER];16255707]I randomly went into a salon/beauty super store and they had deva curl!!! I bought it and don't know how to use them. I am excited though

What did you buy?

 

[HanaKuroi]

This is what I bought.

faithVA

 

[faithVA]

This is what I bought.

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That's a nice set. I couldn't read all the labels. But here is the gist of how you use it.

1. Take a small amount of the conditioner and apply it to the top layer of your hair.

2. Get in the shower (or however you rinse your hair) and let the water just run on your hair until its saturated.

3. Take the No Poo and put it on your finger tips and start massaging it in only on your scalp starting at the temples, sides, crown, back then nape.

4. Let it rinse out and over your hair.

5. Take the conditioner and apply it in a downward motion through your hair. Let it sit while you shower or whatever for a few minutes

6. Finger detangle from underneath to remove the shed hairs.

7. You can repeat the condition step if you need more hydration.

Everything else depends on your hair.

8. Depending on your hair, you can either leave the conditioner in, rinse out some or rinse out all.

9. Apply your leave-in (Deva One Conditioner, B-Leave-In).

10. You have to play around with the moisturizers and gels based on what you like.

Hope that helps.

 

[HanaKuroi]

faithVA

I got too excited in that store. Thanks I will try it later in the week. I henna'd last night and I want to wait until it settles. I will make sure ti share my experiences.

 

[Je Ne Sais Quoi]

Does anyone else condition and finger detangle at night leaving the conditioner in then cowash in the morning? This method helps me a ton with these kinks and curls

 

[faithVA]

Does anyone else condition and finger detangle at night leaving the conditioner in then cowash in the morning? This method helps me a ton with these kinks and curls

It sounds good. But no, my scalp seems to dislike conditioner being left on it over 3 hrs.

But it does sound like it would be soft, hydrated and easy to get your fingers through.

 

[Je Ne Sais Quoi]

It sounds good. But no, my scalp seems to dislike conditioner being left on it over 3 hrs.

But it does sound like it would be soft, hydrated and easy to get your fingers through.

Yeah it really helps me detangle. I don't do it every night but I want to do it at least three nights a week.

 

[Vintagecoilylocks]

Yeah it really helps me detangle. I don't do it every night but I want to do it at least three nights a week.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3o3LANvz1A&feature=channel&list=UL

It seems to really help deany 55. I will use conditioner any time to detangle then leave it in.

 

[ladysaraii]

I've been following this thread and I think I want to stat adapting....or more fully adapting CG methods.

I looked at some of the vids I found, I really liked heyfranhey's page. So I'll be looking some more to see what I can find

 

[faithVA]

This week I am washing/cowashing my hair daily or at least trying to up the hydration level of my hair. My roots are loving all of the extra attention. My ends not so much. It still takes me forever to do my hair. But if it feels even a little better by the end of the week it will be worth it.

I won't be updating daily but will probably just hit my Wednesday, Friday and Sunday washes as usually.

Oh and I'm scheduled for a Deva Cut in August. Can't wait to get rid of these ends and have some shape to my hair.

 

[faithVA]

Wednesday prepooed with Tresemme Naturals. Cowashed with Giovanni. I like how thick it is. I baggied and let it sit then finger detangled and rinsed. DCd with Heaven in Hair under my heat cap for 45 minutes and rinsed. Used Deva Curl One as my leave in. Followed by Shea Moisture Smoothie. I twisted it up in a lot of twists.

My hair is coming right along. It's slow but there is progress. My ends are horrendous though I hope I have some hair left by the time I go for my Deva Cut.

Surprisingly my twists were dry this morning in only 7 hours. I wore a very nice twist out. My hair doesn't usually look so good.

 

[faithVA]

Guess I have missed a few days. I am still cowashing every day. I used Giovanni SAS last week and really liked how my hair came out. Stopped using the Tresemme Naturals.

Friday I had really good results with hydrating my hair. My twist out came out very nice. I was able to be out in 103 weather and my twist out didn't move. My hair stayed soft. I didn't have any shrinkage beyond where it started. I was pleased with that.

Decided last week I'm going to get a Deva Cut so scheduled an appointment for August. So will try to get my hair to maxiumum hydration by then.

Yesterday, received the Deva Care One, Deva Curl One and B'Leave In I ordered based on the Deva Stylists recommendations. I will use these up until my appointment to give them a fair shot. So used them last night. The products work well together but not so much by themselves. I don't have a clue what to do with the B'Leave In or the AnGel since I never wear WNGs or use gel So I will hold on to those until I see the stylists.

Washing my hair every day takes a long time because I do a lot of smoothing trying to hydrate my hair. So next week, I may wash every day but I will only smooth and detangle my hair every other day or every 3 days.

I have this funky flat twists in the front and bun in the back that I can get buy with until my appointment in August.

My conclusion so far is that I have had better results with the 8 weeks on the CG method than in my entire 2 years of my hair journey.

 

[faithVA]

I went on vacation and wore a puff every day. I would not have been able to do that prior to CG. My hair would have been too shrunken to do anything with. It shrunk but not as much and it was still soft.

I wasn't able to cowash my hair as much so I only cowashed once while I was gone. I recognize though for right now I need to cowash my hair at lea.st every other day to keep some hydration.

I am glad to get back to my cowashing schedule. I am giving my hair some extra love with a long DC. I have 4 more weeks to my personal challenge. And at the end of week 12, I am scheduled for my deva cut. I can not wait to get rid of these raggedy ends. 4 weeks seems like forever

I will make it happen though.

 

[Shadiyah]

faithVA I can not wait to see the new pics from your new cut. I love to see deva cuts.

 

[faithVA]

@faithVA I can not wait to see the new pics from your new cut. I love to see deva cuts.

I am so excited. It may be the same afro I already have but I am hoping it is at least a shapely afro

I'm trying to be patient and keep the scissors out of my hair. My ends are terrible.

 

[~~HoneyComb~~]

I'm really going to have to up the cowashes. I still don't feel like my hair is hydrated enough. My trusty gels seems to not be working for me anymore. I'm experimenting with multiple conditioners as leave-ins to find one to use as a styling product.

Good to hear about your progress faithVA.

 

[Shadiyah]

I am so excited. It may be the same afro I already have but I am hoping it is at least a shapely afro

I'm trying to be patient and keep the scissors out of my hair. My ends are terrible.

faithVA yes keep the scissors away from the hair. just keep typing to us every time you get that feeling that you need to cut or you just can not wait for the day lol.

 

[*Frisky*]

I'm really going to have to up the cowashes. I still don't feel like my hair is hydrated enough. My trusty gels seems to not be working for me anymore. I'm experimenting with multiple conditioners as leave-ins to find one to use as a styling product.

Good to hear about your progress faithVA.

~~HoneyComb~~

Are you still using the Long Aid Activator Gel?

 

[~~HoneyComb~~]

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Are you still using the Long Aid Activator Gel?

*Frisky*, I was using it up until a few weeks ago, and when I was on vacation the humidity was awful and the Long Aid Gel did nothing but dry my hair out tremendously to the point where I got multiply knots in my hair It's the glycerin, I have to avoid products with glycerin in them during the months when the humidity is at it's highest. So I am experimenting with conditioners to get my hair moisturized to help keep it from tangling so much.