Curly Girl vs. Tightly Curly method

[faithVA]

Shadiyah[/USER];16366073]@faithVA yes keep the scissors away from the hair. just keep typing to us every time you get that feeling that you need to cut or you just can not wait for the day lol.

I didn't stay away from the scissors. I finger coiled my hair into small sections and cut off the straggly ends. But I'm done now. I promise.

I should be able to finger detangle and comb my hair now. Four weeks of pulling out my hair was going to be too much, especially if I am washing 4x a week.

 

[*Frisky*]

*Frisky*, I was using it up until a few weeks ago, and when I was on vacation the humidity was awful and the Long Aid Gel did nothing but dry my hair out tremendously to the point where I got multiply knots in my hair It's the glycerin, I have to avoid products with glycerin in them during the months when the humidity is at it's highest. So I am experimenting with conditioners to get my hair moisturized to help keep it from tangling so much.

Wow somebody else mentioned the glycerin and humidity issue. I only thought it was a problem was when it was too cold. I have been using it over the last 2 weeks with no problems. I am layering it with something else though so maybe that is helping.

 

[~~HoneyComb~~]

Wow somebody else mentioned the glycerin and humidity issue. I only thought it was a problem was when it was too cold. I have been using it over the last 2 weeks with no problems. I am layering it with something else though so maybe that is helping.

I have problems in the summer months with glycerin, no problems in the late fall/winter months. Makes my hair dry as a bone in the summer.

What are you using to layer? I've layered the Long Aid with Aloe Vera gel (no glycerin) and still had problems. I'm really believing that I have to work on getting moisture back to my hair. I normally cowash only once a week, but I may have to do it several times a week, leaving a moisturizing conditioner in and as a styling aid.

It's going to be a pain trying to find the right conditioner---some I've used leave a film on top of my hair

 

[*Frisky*]

I have problems in the summer months with glycerin, no problems in the late fall/winter months. Makes my hair dry as a bone in the summer.

What are you using to layer? I've layered the Long Aid with Aloe Vera gel (no glycerin) and still had problems. I'm really believing that I have to work on getting moisture back to my hair. I normally cowash only once a week, but I may have to do it several times a week, leaving a moisturizing conditioner in and as a styling aid.

It's going to be a pain trying to find the right conditioner---some I've used leave a film on top of my hair

I've been using either Pure Clean gel by Garnier or Xtreme gel.

 

[Shadiyah]

I didn't stay away from the scissors. I finger coiled my hair into small sections and cut off the straggly ends. But I'm done now. I promise.

I should be able to finger detangle and comb my hair now. Four weeks of pulling out my hair was going to be too much, especially if I am washing 4x a week.

faithVA well if you had to do it you have to do it.

 

[cluelezz]

I've been doing CG for almost 3 weeks. Did my 3rd wash today. My hair is over-moisturized, but it was before CG (which was probably a bad idea in hindsight). CG hasn't made it any worse, but I definitely need to add some protein to my routine. I also need to get better at keeping my nails snag-free. Nail snags are the worst when finger detangling.

I noticed there are a few different variations of the method. This is closest to how I do CG but I use dif products and no comb

I've only done wash n gos up until now (hair's in twists for a twist out) and this is how I maintain it buut, I use more water than she does and a lot less fluffing

I use:
v05 moisture milk for the scalp cleansing part (cowash)
tresemme naturals for detangling

For styling, I either leave in a little bit of tresemme naturals and then use gel, or I use a moisturizer (with or without gel). I don't like leaving tresemme naturals in by itself. I don't like the way it feels. I tried some Dr. Bronner moisturizer of some sort, but I think I'm gonna switch to SheaMoisture. I've used SM pre-CG and liked it. The line I used had proteins in it and I think my hair had a better protein-moisture balance when I was using it.

 

[HanaKuroi]

I've been doing CG for almost 3 weeks. Did my 3rd wash today. My hair is over-moisturized, but it was before CG (which was probably a bad idea in hindsight). CG hasn't made it any worse, but I definitely need to add some protein to my routine. I also need to get better at keeping my nails snag-free. Nail snags are the worst when finger detangling.

I noticed there are a few different variations of the method. This is closest to how I do CG but I use dif products and no comb

I've only done wash n gos up until now (hair's in twists for a twist out) and this is how I maintain it buut, I use more water than she does and a lot less fluffing

I use:
v05 moisture milk for the scalp cleansing part (cowash)
tresemme naturals for detangling

For styling, I either leave in a little bit of tresemme naturals and then use gel, or I use a moisturizer (with or without gel). I don't like leaving tresemme naturals in by itself. I don't like the way it feels. I tried some Dr. Bronner moisturizer of some sort, but I think I'm gonna switch to SheaMoisture. I've used SM pre-CG and liked it. The line I used had proteins in it and I think my hair had a better protein-moisture balance when I was using it.

cluelezz use vinyl gloves to avoid snags. Just make sure to get ones that fit and not one size fits all. It makes all the difference.

 

[Foxglove]

Is trader joe nourish spa CG?

 

[faithVA]

Is trader joe nourish spa CG?

Here are the ingredients

Conditioner - Purified water, organic rosemary oil, organic valencia orange citrus, organic mango, organic lemongrass, organic ginko biloba, organic echinacea, organic willow bark, organic sea kelp, organic chamomile flower, organic textured soy protein, organic lavender, organic grapefruit citrus, Tocopherol (Vit E), Acetamide MEA, Cetyl Alcohol, Citric Acid, Methylparaben, propylparaben, botanical fragrance


It looks ok if you do parabens. It doesn't have any cones.

 

[Cruzankink]

when I first started my HHJ I tried the tightly curly method and I am curious. Is anyone 4b and have it work? My hair ended up more damaged cuz my hair would curl on itself and create tangles.

The question above was posted earlier on this thread but has yet to be answered. Im in a similar situtation. I'm about 7 weeks into my CG regimen. I only co-wash on weekends bc I don't have time to twist my hair everytime I cowash but I add a leavein during the week. A few weeks ago, I've tried doing coW and WnG for a week which resulted in a mass of SSK. I have 4b hair. My goal is to have WnG hair. For any 4b ladies, once your hair reaches its max moisture can you resort to WnG as your main style w/out SSK or is WnG for 4b hair a pipe dream?

 

[faithVA]

Cruzankink[/URL];16440407]The question above was posted earlier on this thread but has yet to be answered. Im in a similar situtation. I'm about 7 weeks into my CG regimen. I only co-wash on weekends bc I don't have time to twist my hair everytime I cowash but I add a leavein during the week. A few weeks ago, I've tried doing coW and WnG for a week which resulted in a mass of SSK. I have 4b hair. My goal is to have WnG hair. For any 4b ladies, once your hair reaches its max moisture can you resort to WnG as your main style w/out SSK or is WnG for 4b hair a pipe dream?

I'm not sure how many 4Bs are actually doing the Curly Girl or Tightly Curly Method. All the ytbers who said they were 4B actually looked more 4a to me

I am a 4b. This will be week 11 for me. But I don't WNGs. I definitely would not try it before the hair is fully hydrated. My hair isn't fully hydrated yet so I can't give you a full answer to your question but I did want to respond.

Because I can't do WNG's I wash at night and twist it up so its dry by the morning.

If you are a 4 I think you will have SSKs but they shouldn't be major. MahoganyCurls says she still has SSKs but they don't get in the way of what she is doing.

I will be cutting off my damaged ends in 2 weeks and as it grows out I will be updating on whether I can do WNGs or whether my hair has to still twist and dry.

Even though my hair still has SSKs, it does not tangle more. The more my hair hydrates the less it tangles and even the SSKs don't tangle around themselves as much.

I know that's not much help.

 

[Cruzankink]

I'm not sure how many 4Bs are actually doing the Curly Girl or Tightly Curly Method. All the ytbers who said they were 4B actually looked more 4a to me

I am a 4b. This will be week 11 for me. But I don't WNGs. I definitely would not try it before the hair is fully hydrated. My hair isn't fully hydrated yet so I can't give you a full answer to your question but I did want to respond.

Because I can't do WNG's I wash at night and twist it up so its dry by the morning.

If you are a 4 I think you will have SSKs but they shouldn't be major. MahoganyCurls says she still has SSKs but they don't get in the way of what she is doing.

I will be cutting off my damaged ends in 2 weeks and as it grows out I will be updating on whether I can do WNGs or whether my hair has to still twist and dry.

Even though my hair still has SSKs, it does not tangle more. The more my hair hydrates the less it tangles and even the SSKs don't tangle around themselves as much.

I know that's not much help.

faithVA Actually that is a lot of help. I'll stay tuned to your progress. I am cautiously optimistic. It makes sense that when hair reaches its max moisture the less SSK/tangles it will have. This weekend I intend to tweak my regimen to increase the moisture/protein in my hair. Like you, I've also noticed that the utube queens that claim they are 4b look more like 4a/3c erplexed which doesn't help me. I'm gonna make a personal challenge of getting WnG hair by the end of the year. I'll update w/ my progress.

 

[faithVA]

Cruzankink[/USER];16440529]@faithVA Actually that is a lot of help. I'll stay tuned to your progress. I am cautiously optimistic. It makes sense that when hair reaches its max moisture the less SSK/tangles it will have. This weekend I intend to tweak my regimen to increase the moisture/protein in my hair. Like you, I've also noticed that the utube queens that claim they are 4b look more like 4a/3c erplexed which doesn't help me. I'm gonna make a personal challenge of getting WnG hair by the end of the year. I'll update w/ my progress.

The one thing I do know is before I damaged my hair, I never knew what an SSK was. I have been natural since 2005 but I did keep my hair short. And I started letting it grow out Jan 2009. I didn't do much to my hair. My hair didn't tangle and I didn't have SSKs. I do think that I didn't starting having SSKs until I straightened my hair the first time in Dec 2009. And I had my first tangle experience in July 2009.

Now that I am doing CG my hair is back to no tangles. So I will see what happens when I pretty much start over.

 

[Beany]

Cruzankink dawnyele from yt is 4b/c and she did the cg method. I can't post a link from my phone but when I get to work I will.

 

[Cruzankink]

@Cruzankink dawnyele from yt is 4b/c and she did the cg method. I can't post a link from my phone but when I get to work I will.

Beany Thanx! Finally a true 4b. I just subscribed to her channel.

 

[Cruzankink]

I have not bought the CG book. What I've been doing for the past 7 weeks was co-wash on weekends and sometimes midweek. I do 2-strand twist outs on my TWA as a low maintenance style. Of course, no fates no cones. My hair is definately more moisturized but I feel I don't know enough about CG to maximize my results. Here are some questions:

• I've read in this thread that some of you do several co-washes during the week. Is this advocated in the book? Why so many?
• How much conditioner are you using for co-washes and why.
• What kind of leave in are you using?
• What is the end result of doing the CG methond? I would like defined coils. Would this happen w/ continued CG practice?
• How long would it take to achieve optimal results?

TIA

 

[Foxglove]

The question above was posted earlier on this thread but has yet to be answered. Im in a similar situtation. I'm about 7 weeks into my CG regimen. I only co-wash on weekends bc I don't have time to twist my hair everytime I cowash but I add a leavein during the week. A few weeks ago, I've tried doing coW and WnG for a week which resulted in a mass of SSK. I have 4b hair. My goal is to have WnG hair. For any 4b ladies, once your hair reaches its max moisture can you resort to WnG as your main style w/out SSK or is WnG for 4b hair a pipe dream?

I'm 4b and until a couple of months ago I was able to wash n go and as long as I wet my hair and soaked it in conditioner before detangling I was ok. 2 months ago I tried CG, with the cowash n go (literally just cowash, put leave in, seal with oil and go), and finger detangling in the shower during cowashing. I did this for a couple of weeks and omg the SSK. I've never gotten them that bad. I think it may have been from cowashing so much without detangling with a comb bc all the shed hairs were catching on my curled ends and causing knots. I think I would have to do modified CG to allow for a comb bc finger detangling does NOT get out all my shed hairs and they built up and caused havoc when I did go to detangle.

 

[HanaKuroi]

Thanks for this. I just got my ssks under control. I was just about to seriously start doing this.

 

[faithVA]

Cruzankink[/USER];16452855]
I've read in this thread that some of you do several co-washes during the week. Is this advocated in the book? Why so many?

• How much conditioner are you using for co-washes and why.
• What kind of leave in are you using?
• What is the end result of doing the CG methond? I would like defined coils. Would this happen w/ continued CG practice?
• How long would it take to achieve optimal results?

TIA

You need to cowash as often as you need to keep your hair hydrated. If you can cowash 1x a week and your hair stays hydrated for the remainder of the week then that is a good schedule for you. But if your hair starts to dry out in 3 days then you may want to do a 3 day cowash schedule. The book suggest using some form of water and conditioner every day but you have to watch your hair and see how often you need it.

I use the Deva Curl products so I use the Deva Curl One as my leave-in for the most part.

The final outcome of the CG method is hydrated hair. I can't guarantee that you will have defined coils after the CG method. However, your hair should be more hydrated and your coils look better.

The book states that you can get your hair to full hydration in 3 months. However, that is based on wetting the hair every day and using some type of conditioner. It also will vary based on your current level of hydration.

I have been doing CG for almost 2.5 months cowashing 3x a week. My hair started out severely dehydrated. I am predicting it will take my hair 4 to 6 months to hydrate. I know others have hydrated faster because there hair was in much better condition. I also know a ytber who only cowashed 1x a week and it took her a year.

 

[Cruzankink]

You need to cowash as often as you need to keep your hair hydrated. If you can cowash 1x a week and your hair stays hydrated for the remainder of the week then that is a good schedule for you. But if your hair starts to dry out in 3 days then you may want to do a 3 day cowash schedule. The book suggest using some form of water and conditioner every day but you have to watch your hair and see how often you need it.

I use the Deva Curl products so I use the Deva Curl One as my leave-in for the most part.

The final outcome of the CG method is hydrated hair. I can't guarantee that you will have defined coils after the CG method. However, your hair should be more hydrated and your coils look better.

The book states that you can get your hair to full hydration in 3 months. However, that is based on wetting the hair every day and using some type of conditioner. It also will vary based on your current level of hydration.

I have been doing CG for almost 2.5 months cowashing 3x a week. My hair started out severely dehydrated. I am predicting it will take my hair 4 to 6 months to hydrate. I know others have hydrated faster because there hair was in much better condition. I also know a ytber who only cowashed 1x a week and it took her a year.

faithVA thanx again! Im gonna be on a "hydration watch" this week. I'll increase my cowash depending on what my hair feels like. I stated in another thread (IDK maybe this one) that I uiltimately want to have WnG hair since Im tired of twisting and hydration is key.

 

[Jobwright]

faithVA Did you manage to get the curl definition you desired? My DD has natural 4 something hair with 3 something edges. I would love to see some curl definition but just cannot figure out how to do it. Nonie recommends Scurl religiously and I have been using it with my DD for about 6 months now. But her soft fine dense hair is still a big puff. I cannot figure out what I am doing wrong. I cannot use alot of product because it just weighs her hair down terribly. She goes to Kindergarten in the fall and I want her to have a big girl look. Is it just that some hair will not define into ringlets or non frizzy curls and I need to move on? Or has someone had success with curl definition that I can lean on for support? Here are some pictures during an unbraid, cowash, DC, plait session.

SL 2013, APL 2013, BSL 2013, Challenge for our Children 2013

 

[Jobwright]

One more...I think I MAY have figured something out. Let me know what you think...I mini braided just a couple of inches all over, then sprayed with a combo of water, Tressemme, and evoo. Should I seal with something to keep it from frizzling up more than it is?

SL 2013, APL 2013, BSL 2013, Challenge for our Children 2013

 

[Prettycoach]

You need to cowash as often as you need to keep your hair hydrated. If you can cowash 1x a week and your hair stays hydrated for the remainder of the week then that is a good schedule for you. But if your hair starts to dry out in 3 days then you may want to do a 3 day cowash schedule. The book suggest using some form of water and conditioner every day but you have to watch your hair and see how often you need it.

I use the Deva Curl products so I use the Deva Curl One as my leave-in for the most part.

The final outcome of the CG method is hydrated hair. I can't guarantee that you will have defined coils after the CG method. However, your hair should be more hydrated and your coils look better.

The book states that you can get your hair to full hydration in 3 months. However, that is based on wetting the hair every day and using some type of conditioner. It also will vary based on your current level of hydration.

I have been doing CG for almost 2.5 months cowashing 3x a week. My hair started out severely dehydrated. I am predicting it will take my hair 4 to 6 months to hydrate. I know others have hydrated faster because there hair was in much better condition. I also know a ytber who only cowashed 1x a week and it took her a year.

Sorry I am late. Lol. Now I have been CG for about 5 months now. I bought the book but didn't realize that maybe just cowashing once a week wasn't helping my hair hydrate BC it seems dry all the time. When you cowash what is te routine. Do I Detangle my hair every time I co wash or just co wash and condition and then do the LCO method. Help!!!! I am so far behind ladies lol

 

[faithVA]

Jobwright[/USER];17738757]@faithVA Did you manage to get the curl definition you desired? My DD has natural 4 something hair with 3 something edges. I would love to see some curl definition but just cannot figure out how to do it. @Nonie recommends Scurl religiously and I have been using it with my DD for about 6 months now. But her soft fine dense hair is still a big puff. I cannot figure out what I am doing wrong. I cannot use alot of product because it just weighs her hair down terribly. She goes to Kindergarten in the fall and I want her to have a big girl look. Is it just that some hair will not define into ringlets or non frizzy curls and I need to move on? Or has someone had success with curl definition that I can lean on for support? Here are some pictures during an unbraid, cowash, DC, plait session.

SL 2013, APL 2013, BSL 2013, Challenge for our Children 2013

I may not be of much help to you. In the middle of my trying this, I found out I had severe heat damage and had to cut my hair off. So I have been growing out 2" for several months now and not doing either method.

Your daughters curl pattern is much looser than mine, so maybe there is a chance. You may not be able to get buy with just using a conditioner though. You may need something heavier like a curly cream, like Taliah Waajids.

I did achieve a wash n go with this stuff I have. I DCd, rinsed, baggied for 15 minutes to let my hair absorbe the oil. Then I applied an oil then a leave-in. I let my hair dry a bit, then I spritzed it with water and then applied the curly cream. My hair defines better after it dries. I can't get any definition applying the curly cream when it is really wet. I do play on starting the CG method again once my hair is longer. Too much work short.

What is your regimen with your daughter and what products are you using from shampoo to styling?

 

[faithVA]

Prettycoach[/USER];17738979]Sorry I am late. Lol. Now I have been CG for about 5 months now. I bought the book but didn't realize that maybe just cowashing once a week wasn't helping my hair hydrate BC it seems dry all the time. When you cowash what is te routine. Do I Detangle my hair every time I co wash or just co wash and condition and then do the LCO method. Help!!!! I am so far behind ladies lol

I haven't been doing CG for a while because I cut my hair. I do plan on getting back to it through when my hair grows out.

When I was cowashing I wasn't wearing a WNG. I was twisting my hair up. I would cowash with Deva Curl One and finger comb in the shower. I would get out of the shower apply more Deva Curl One and spritz it with water and continue finger combing to try to lock in the curls. I finger combed every time. The more I did it the easier it becamse.

I washed, DC every week and cowashed mid-week.

You can definitely try the LOC method. You will have to figure out whether your hair likes oil when you do a WNG. Some do the oil then the heavy cream. Some do a leave-in and then the oil.

I have been doing Oil and then a leave-in and then a styling cream. My hair needs many layers to retain a curl.