Curly Girl vs. Tightly Curly method

[faithVA]

@@NikkiGirl; Girl, No that response was what I needed. I think I will try and baby that front section and not comb or brush it. I noticed when I got my deva cut and she didn't use a comb or bush, the front of my hair curled a bit more instead of the frizz. I couldn't duplicate it the next WnG and it frizzed. Maybe because I am using a brush on my hair. I am going to try and do WnG's using good products and really try and finger detangle and see where that gets me. Already doing strict CG for the last 2 weeks has put more moisture in my hair




@faithVA: I think true CG advocates WnGs and Tightly Curly does, too. TC does tell you to loosely braid or put your hair up at night to preserve the style for a few days. I think the true expectation with CG is that you wet your hair pretty much everyday. Ladies correct me if I'm wrong. I think Honeycomb does CG and does twist outs and NikkiGirl does buns/ponies a lot she said. I think you can do whatever you like. I personally am attempting to perfect WnGs for my hair using strict CG. I am even using her products.

Thanks. I don't have WNG hair I don't care how much conditioner I put on it. So I was hoping I could try one of these methods and just put my hair up.

 

[Dee_33]

@Serenity_Peace
I use Suave Tropical Coconut and Tresemme Conditioner (the silicone free one)

I use styling gels after I cowash.

The gels I currently use do not cause buildup no matter how much I use. I can use a little daily for a week and I get no buildup whatsoever.

~~HoneyComb~~ what gel are you using?

Thanks

 

[*Frisky*]

Thanks. I don't have WNG hair I don't care how much conditioner I put on it. So I was hoping I could try one of these methods and just put my hair up.

I normally do twist outs. I did do a WashNGo last week for the first time pretty much since my BC and it actually looked half way decent hahaha...I only got 2 day hair out of it though but I was surprised how different my hair looked and reacted compared to 9 months or so ago.

 

[*Frisky*]

~~HoneyComb~~ what gel are you using?

Thanks

I think she uses Long Aid Activator Gel.

 

[~~HoneyComb~~]

@ ~~HoneyComb~~ what gel are you using?

Thanks

luving me



*Frisky* is right that I use Long Aid Curl Activator gel it has glycerin which works well for my hair during the cooler months, I layer it with Uncle Funky's Daughter Curly Magic stimulator. The curly magic has no glycerin and it's also free of parabins and silicones. I layer the two gels---the Long Aid Curl activator moistures and the Curly Magic gives awesome definition.

 

[~~HoneyComb~~]

This may be a silly question but just wanting to make sure. I know many of those using these methods do wash and gos. But does either method advocate styling in any particular way or can I do the method and then just bun my hair up or put it in flat twists? tia

faithVA
I think you can do whatever you want to do with your hair as long as you practice the basic principles. As FindingMe stated, I do twistouts because my hair at this length doesn't do well with wash n gos unless I cowash daily and I don't like to do that

 

[~~HoneyComb~~]

Oh, what helped with my frizzy patch in front was using conditioner and not combing or brushing it at all..

I have a frizzy patch too that no matter how much gel I put on it, it frizzes.

That patch is looking so much better, not completely frizz free, but it's getting more defined and blending in nicely with the rest of my hair.

 

[faithVA]

Thanks Frisky and HoneyComb. I am definitely going to give this a try.

 

[MaraWithLove]

I've been tempted to try the CG method for a while now, I'm just wondering about any modifications I'd have to make. I think for the summer I'll follow the CG method closely, it seems the most sensible thing to do for my hair.

May I ask you ladies following CG: do you still DC? Is there anything within the CG method about retaining a protein-moisture balance? I totally get the broad guidelines of CG, just wondering about little things like this.

TIA for any help.

 

[FindingMe]

I have a frizzy patch too that no matter how much gel I put on it, it frizzes.

That patch is looking so much better, not completely frizz free, but it's getting more defined and blending in nicely with the rest of my hair.

NikkiGirl ~~HoneyComb~~: Just wanted to say thanks and for the advice. I did CG yesterday with all Devacare products and did *not* use anything other than my finger to detangle and OMG, I have curls and waves on the canopy and in the front where it is always frizzy!!!! This is the best WnG i have EVER done. Last night, I put it up in a pineapple via locsoc for bed and then took it down in the am and sprayed the underside that was mashed flat with water and diffused it dry in 5 min and was off to church! HOLLA! I am SO happy right now.

 

[aviddiva77]

when I first started my HHJ I tried the tightly curly method and I am curious. Is anyone 4b and have it work? My hair ended up more damaged cuz my hair would curl on itself and create tangles.

 

[~~HoneyComb~~]

@ NikkiGirl @ ~~HoneyComb~~: Just wanted to say thanks and for the advice. I did CG yesterday with all Devacare products and did *not* use anything other than my finger to detangle and OMG, I have curls and waves on the canopy and in the front where it is always frizzy!!!! This is the best WnG i have EVER done. Last night, I put it up in a pineapple via locsoc for bed and then took it down in the am and sprayed the underside that was mashed flat with water and diffused it dry in 5 min and was off to church! HOLLA! I am SO happy right now.

FindingMe that is wonderful!!! You're one of the fortunate ones that don't have to wait 6 weeks to see a difference

How long did it take you to detangle? Fingercombing/wide tooth combing really preserve the curl and minimizes the frizz. Wish I had tried this years ago, but I didn't have the patience and thought that my denman was just as good.

 

[NikkiGirl]

NikkiGirl ~~HoneyComb~~: Just wanted to say thanks and for the advice. I did CG yesterday with all Devacare products and did *not* use anything other than my finger to detangle and OMG, I have curls and waves on the canopy and in the front where it is always frizzy!!!! This is the best WnG i have EVER done. Last night, I put it up in a pineapple via locsoc for bed and then took it down in the am and sprayed the underside that was mashed flat with water and diffused it dry in 5 min and was off to church! HOLLA! I am SO happy right now.

I am so happy for you! It feels so good to find something that just works!

 

[MaraWithLove]

I've gone completely CG. I realize I was modified CG before: I used a CV poo bar and didn't use a styler, but still avoided cones, sulfates etc. Anyhow, I co-washed for the first time today and it was great; I felt like I didn't have to add as much moisturizer; to my thick head that's a miracle. I think CG is right for me simply because I want to embrace the curls given to me and be very free-spirited about it. Anyhow, sorry to keep dragging on.

Curls: My hair curled up great for the most part-it normally does-but I've got troubled patches. I'm wondering if my back area seems so...undefined because I don't use a mirror when doing the back of my head and maybe I need to pay more attention? Or perhaps that part of my hair just doesn't want to curl up...yet, at least. I'm gonna attach some pictures. I'm hoping this is the phase of "hair looking worse" and that it improves in the coming month. :/

 

[faithVA]

I've decided to try the tightly curly method. I'm not really expecting curls but if I can improve the moisture of my hair that would be a plus. I'm just going to cowash 1x during the week though and then DC on the weekends. I bought a bottle of Natures Gate conditioner to Cowash with and will also use AO White Camellia. I will DC with AO GPB.

Sunday I DCd with AO GPB rinsed. Then I used a Black Seed Oil conditoner I bought from an expo. And I twisted it up. My hair looked terrible

This morning I wet my hair and reapplied the conditioner. I had to put some oil on my hair and my ends though. I would have just looked like a porcupine.

So hoping to cowash on Wednesday or Thursday. And then bun it up.

We will see how this goes.

I am open to any suggestions that may help.

 

[greenandchic]

I can't wait to see how it goes, faithVA. For me its a matter of do finding a conditioner that won't make my hair look dull.

 

[~~HoneyComb~~]

I've decided to try the tightly curly method. I'm not really expecting curls but if I can improve the moisture of my hair that would be a plus. I'm just going to cowash 1x during the week though and then DC on the weekends. I bought a bottle of Natures Gate conditioner to Cowash with and will also use AO White Camellia. I will DC with AO GPB.

Sunday I DCd with AO GPB rinsed. Then I used a Black Seed Oil conditoner I bought from an expo. And I twisted it up. My hair looked terrible

This morning I wet my hair and reapplied the conditioner. I had to put some oil on my hair and my ends though. I would have just looked like a porcupine.

So hoping to cowash on Wednesday or Thursday. And then bun it up.

We will see how this goes.

I am open to any suggestions that may help.

faithVA it might just be that you won't notice a difference until you've been doing it a while. Like I mentioned earlier my hair was a mess the first few weeks, but I was determined to stick it out until the 6-week mark and by that time you'll get the hang of it and see an improvement in your hair.

Right now, I can't do conditioner only, I have to use a gel afterwards. I am hoping however that over time the condition of my hair will improve so much that I can get away with only a good conditioner and still have the shine and frizz free hair that I get with gel.

I can't wait to see how it goes, @ faithVA. For me its a matter of do finding a conditioner that won't make my hair look dull.

I'm hoping to find a conditioner that I can leave in that doesn't make my hair look dull either, so far no luck.

 

[faithVA]

I went to her site and read some more. I am definitely not leaving enough conditioner in.

I will try to remember the steps:
Cleanse, Condition, Comb, Define, Dry, Protect and Refresh

I think you ladies are right. It will take me several weeks to get use to the process, figure out what works for me and then perfect it.

Because I don't wear my hair out that much, I can live with the dullness for a bit. I would love to see the moisture level in my hair improve though.

 

[FindingMe]

I went to her site and read some more. I am definitely not leaving enough conditioner in.

I will try to remember the steps:
Cleanse, Condition, Comb, Define, Dry, Protect and Refresh

I think you ladies are right. It will take me several weeks to get use to the process, figure out what works for me and then perfect it.

Because I don't wear my hair out that much, I can live with the dullness for a bit. I would love to see the moisture level in my hair improve though.

greenandchic: I dunno about other conditioners, but Deva One Condition doesn't leave my hair too dull. My bottom layer 3c curls are super shiny.

Also, DevaCurls has product called Mirror Curls and it's like a silicone (pump bottle) but it's silicone free. I use 1-2 pumps on my whole head to add a little shine. It feels kinda like Sabino Moisture Bloc, but washes away easily. It also removes all of the gel cast from the An-Gel I use, so my hair is completely soft and fluffy after I scrunch it in. No hard spots anywhere, but not greasy either. It works well for me, but then again, I am using ONLY Deva products, so I may be getting some benefit there from using only one product line.

faithVA: Good luck! With CG, I haven't really figured out how to incorporate oils in my WnG hair other than on completely dry to add a little shine and in my DCs. I don't know how it would affect how the WnG looked. Let us know how it works out.

NikkiGirl: I can't believe how much of a difference not combing/brushing made on the front of my hair. I just can't believe it.

~~HoneyComb~~: I am on week three of strict CG, using Deva products only. I am hoping that I will still see incremental improvement as I go. Detangling: After all that fuss I put out, I am ashamed to say it took me all of five (maybe 7) minutes to pull apart tangles and finger comb from underneath through my hair I just finger combed all the way around and then raked slowly through the top with my fingers in kinda a claw shape, if that makes sense, and if I got stuck, I would stop and pull apart the tangle and keep going until I pretty much could rake through from underneath and on the top without a whole lotta stops. I actually got a few long sheds that way. I was completely surprised.

MaraWithLove: My trouble spots like that in the back of my head started clumping and coiling more when I started adding more product specifically to those areas. I part my hair down the middle in the back with my fingers, add conditioner on both sides, go about an inch over, part my hair, add conditioner and keep doing that until I have reached the sides. I only do that for the conditioner. With the gel, I just kind of scrunch into my hair all over without separating. For me, I think bc I couldn't see it, I wasn't adding as much product as I was to the front and sides. And it is the driest already bc it is the most exposed, so mine def loved the extra tlc


Sorry to ramble, ya'll, but I am so excited that this is working for me.

 

[MaraWithLove]

FindingMe Thanks so much, no need to apologize for rambling; you've just helped our learning experiences and hair journeys! Gracias! ^.^

 

[HanaKuroi]

I am going to try a mixed up curly/tightly method on my bangs only for a while. I want to experiment before I do my whole head. Going to use cj smoothing conditioner.

 

[faithVA]

I'm not quite ready to do this full on But I did cowash tonight with Nature Gate's Chamomile conditioner. But I decided I want to use up my stash first before going off on this tangent. So I just overdosed my hair with Shea Moisture Milk. I still have a half bottle of this to use up. And then I put in 2 strand twists. From the tightly curly web page, 2 strand twist is considered another way of defining your curls.

After cowashing, I do see some potential for a nice curl pattern. So I will continue to cowash to build up the moisture while I use up the remaining products I have. Then I will switch over to using just conditioner. I think I will need a really heavy conditioner like AO HSR. I only use natural products so I will have to work at finding a conditioner.

I will make sure I take a starting pic, this weekend.

 

[FindingMe]

I'm not quite ready to do this full on But I did cowash tonight with Nature Gate's Chamomile conditioner. But I decided I want to use up my stash first before going off on this tangent. So I just overdosed my hair with Shea Moisture Milk. I still have a half bottle of this to use up. And then I put in 2 strand twists. From the tightly curly web page, 2 strand twist is considered another way of defining your curls.

After cowashing, I do see some potential for a nice curl pattern. So I will continue to cowash to build up the moisture while I use up the remaining products I have. Then I will switch over to using just conditioner. I think I will need a really heavy conditioner like AO HSR. I only use natural products so I will have to work at finding a conditioner.

I will make sure I take a starting pic, this weekend.

OT: faithVA: I know- I need to quit fooling around, too, bc I am in the Castor Oil challenge and have kinda fallen off the wagon the last few weeks bc of doing strict CG. I need to focus on one thing at a time...the CG is working for me now, tho so I will stick with this until it stops working- I do incorporate Castor Oil into my DC's once weekly though...

On topic: Anyone else doing CG or TC methods that have incorporated natural oils into their routines (coconut, castor, grapeseed, argan, etc)? If so, How are you using them?

 

[Embyra]

OT: faithVA:
On topic: Anyone else doing CG or TC methods that have incorporated natural oils into their routines (coconut, castor, grapeseed, argan, etc)? If so, How are you using them?

I have been doing cg for a year now i use my oils after i cowash and then during the week scrunch some in my hair during the week on a as needed basis

 

[Shay72]

On topic: Anyone else doing CG or TC methods that have incorporated natural oils into their routines (coconut, castor, grapeseed, argan, etc)? If so, How are you using them?

I do a HOT then oil rinse each morning before cowashing. This basically consists of me oiling then putting on a plastic cap for 30 minutes. Rinsing in the shower then cowashing. I'm doing CG.

 

[FindingMe]

I have been doing cg for a year now i use my oils after i cowash and then during the week scrunch some in my hair during the week on a as needed basis

I do a HOT then oil rinse each morning before cowashing. This basically consists of me oiling then putting on a plastic cap for 30 minutes. Rinsing in the shower then cowashing. I'm doing CG.

Embyra & Shay72: What type of oil do you use? Do you guys wear WnGs or style some other way mostly? Does this help with control or add more moisture than without using oil? Does it make your hair feel oily a little afterwards after dry?

 

[MaraWithLove]

I've gone cg and I still play in my oils frequently: I add oils to my ayurvedic DCs and do oil rinses. I also oil my ends and scalp after washing and refreshing hair with a spritz. I'm not much of a gel user (at least not yet) but when I use gel I add oil to my hair so there's a hold and softness, no crunch. The oils I'm currently using are castor and hempseed.

On another note: I'm so happy to have gone CG, it's making such a difference already!

 

[Cherokee-n-Black]

OK, so I know nobody asked me, but I use Suave Naturals Coconut as a co-wash, and Pure Fiji (it's more expensive than drugs--don't ask!) Coconut conditioner. which I rinse out. Instead of leaving in a rinse out conditioner (which left my hair dull, but defined), I use Giovanni Direct Leave In and Queen Helene Royal Curl as a styler. I dry it under a hooded dryer for 25 - 30 minutes (or air dry if I have time--rarely happens). My hair looks consistently awesome with this method. I may not change for YEARS! LOL. I do use oils for daily conditioning. At this point, I can make this last about 3 days, solid. I've also used the Giovanni Direct Leave-in for twist outs ala Chime. Great results as long as I don't touch the individual strands in the two-strand twists once I untwist--no finger coming after it's dry or...it just ain't pretty.

 

[Missigirl]

Embyra Have you seen a lot of growth in your year?

I am using the cg method too. My problem is leaving too much condish in and having white curls even after it drys. It only looks normal the next day. I am going to try using gel for a while until I can get rid of this halo on my front left side and in the back.

 

[Embyra]

Embyra & Shay72: What type of oil do you use? Do you guys wear WnGs or style some other way mostly? Does this help with control or add more moisture than without using oil? Does it make your hair feel oily a little afterwards after dry?

I use coconut oil and castor oil mixed together

I wear wng's ALL the time im mid back and its never been a problem for me

My hair is never oily i am low porosity but i LOVE using oils i apply enough for my hairtype

I use oils as their are lots of benefits you get from them especially coconut oil that my hair wouldnt get without them