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Wow...this thread, like I said, I stick by whatever I said, I don't go back and negate my prior opinion; never have never will. The great thing about free speech (you know, the first amendment) is that I can say what I want, when I want, where I want and if my feeling is that she's giving "false hope" (because I believe I'm the one who said, you can call me out, I have no fear of a nameless avatar on a website) then those are my feelings, you don't have to share them or even agree with them. Would I like all of us to be civil about it? Sure, but I know we can't be. Now, if you feel like giving me the side eye...side eye until you pupils get stuck in your ears, if that's how you feel. I still love her hair, like I love everybody's hair who is healthy. I just don't ever comment on these kind of threads because it turns into 12 pages of "girl, side eye" or "girl WTF?!?!?!?" and it's too much for me...you lovely ladies have a lovely weekend.
 
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Rei said:
I don't think anyone is questioning her 4ness because of length, everyone knows type 4 hair can grow long. its just the way it acts and the (seeming) lack of significant shrinkage.


Also can I ask why suddenly being a type 3 is an insult? :lachen: I mean, whether she is 3 or 4, its still kinky and not as easy to manage as say, a type 1. isn't that what this board is about?

damn people act like being called a type 3 is a death sentence :lol:

my issue with her is her seeming lack of significant shrinkage. Considering that is the reason why a lot of people heat train (to reduce shrinkage), it just seems kind of funny to me that she is telling others how to help a problem that she likely does not have (or at least have as bad). She can be a type 6 for all it matters to me.

Everyone is going to do them in the end, this video is not law, just her opinion (which I disagree with). Hair is dead and just decoration, like mwedzi said earlier, its ok to play with it. everything is damage. (yes theres all sorts of societal pressures behind it etc etc, but if the person knows all of this and is not ignorant about it, I don't think it is a huge deal.)
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There is nothing wrong with being type 3 or called a type 3 (I kind of can't stand it when people draw this conclusion). I think that people are more annoyed at the comments along the lines of -

"Well my hair doesn't do that so hers can't be a type 4"
"It would be more impressive if she grew out a type 4 twa to her current length"
"She's giving people false hope"
 
Rei said:
I don't think anyone is questioning her 4ness because of length, everyone knows type 4 hair can grow long. its just the way it acts and the (seeming) lack of significant shrinkage.


Also can I ask why suddenly being a type 3 is an insult? :lachen: I mean, whether she is 3 or 4, its still kinky and not as easy to manage as say, a type 1. isn't that what this board is about?

damn people act like being called a type 3 is a death sentence :lol:

my issue with her is her seeming lack of significant shrinkage. Considering that is the reason why a lot of people heat train (to reduce shrinkage), it just seems kind of funny to me that she is telling others how to help a problem that she likely does not have (or at least have as bad). She can be a type 6 for all it matters to me.

Everyone is going to do them in the end, this video is not law, just her opinion (which I disagree with). Hair is dead and just decoration, like mwedzi said earlier, its ok to play with it. everything is damage. (yes theres all sorts of societal pressures behind it etc etc, but if the person knows all of this and is not ignorant about it, I don't think it is a huge deal.)
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Cuz there are some people that assume that if one has 3 hair that they are not "really" black. Folks will come up in a thread and revoke a sistahs black card becuase she just happened to have a looser texture and both parents are black.

Lets not pretend that people on LHCF dont have issues with race. You can look at all the threads in the OT and ET section to see that. Whether it be soul burning over Lil Romeo (lil soldiers need love too) or that "Biracial thread". You've got people getting up in arms over biracials claiming or not claiming black and that inevitably spills over into hair typing.

There is nothing wrong with 3 hair and there is nothing wrong with 4 hair. What matters is what you do to it, how you treat it and how you view it. If a person thinks that 3 hair is a death sentence then dare I say that person is the person with the problem.
 
EllePixie said:
Yep yep! :yep: Agree completely. That shiz doesn't make any dang sense...and that is CLEARLY DISPLAYED in this thread!
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mmmhmm i never seen so many varying responses on what SHOULD be quite simple .....in the cg handbook i immediately was able to see my curl type from her descriptions yet andre system been around a while now and there still is no conclusive agreement from the masses on what 4 ''is'':lachen:
 
I genuinely think some naturals are mad with what grew out of their scalp, and then when they see others with what they perceive as a "better texture"/head of hair their soul burns.

This thread is proof of that. Ya got people trying to find a way for her hair to be wrong in some sort of way, Like it just cant be that maybe YOU are in the wrong.
 
natura87 said:
I genuinely think some naturals are mad with what grew out of their scalp, and then when they see others with what they perceive as a "better texture"/head of hair their soul burns.

This thread is proof of that. Ya got people trying to find a way for her hair to be wrong in some sort of way, Like it just cant be that maybe YOU are in the wrong.
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'Cuse me, I need to cut some steps.

GIFSoup
 
This thread is a hot reeking pile of ****. I think a lot of people are to confined by the hair typing system, which is not the least bit accurate. It might work for a lot of us, but then you have outliers like Chime who's hair does not fit in either the 2, 3 or 4 category.
Time after time this forum proves its inability to let a person self-identify, whether it's race, ethnicity, size, economic status, or in this case hair type.
If the girl says she is a type 4 then let her be a type 4. She knows her hair better than anyone in this forum and though her delivery might not be the most diplomatic, she seems to know what she is talking about, especially when it comes to her own hair.

Sometimes I believe it is easier for women to downplay others accomplishments by making excuses, rather than to acknowledge that someone actually managed to reach a goal. Just because you can't do it, doesn't mean that others can't.

Sent from my HTC HD2 using Long Hair Care Forum App
 
natura87 said:
I genuinely think some naturals are mad with what grew out of their scalp, and then when they see others with what they perceive as a "better texture"/head of hair their soul burns.

This thread is proof of that. Ya got people trying to find a way for her hair to be wrong in some sort of way, Like it just cant be that maybe YOU are in the wrong.
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natura87
I agree with you 100%

people in here real mad because her 4a/b is not the same as theirs and she has minimal shrinkage.

she figured out her hair, so instead of attacking chime people should figure out their own strands :yep:

I guarantee if they did they wouldnt be as mad.
 
I agree with Chime. The use of heat on one's hair is damaging. It really does not matter what we think her hair type is.

I have been on hair boards of all races and they all say the same thing; if you want the least amount of damage to your hair and you want to see your hair's best potential, put the curling iron, flat iron, blow dryer down.
 
PPGbubbles said:
natura87
I agree with you 100%

people in here real mad because her 4a/b is not the same as theirs and she has minimal shrinkage.

she figured out her hair, so instead of attacking chime people should figure out their own strands :yep:

I guarantee if they did they wouldnt be as mad.
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People will find reasons to be mad. :lachen::lachen:

If people would be honest with their hair,accept it for what it is and stop pretending that they are a type they are not the world would be a better place. I for one am tired of seeing 3s trying to slide into the 4s and 4z's trying to convince others that they are 3cs. Aint no gel or wet twistout in the world that can do that.
 
natura87 said:
I genuinely think some naturals are mad with what grew out of their scalp, and then when they see others with what they perceive as a "better texture"/head of hair their soul burns.

This thread is proof of that. Ya got people trying to find a way for her hair to be wrong in some sort of way, Like it just cant be that maybe YOU are in the wrong.
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GIFSoup
 
Funny read.
Love how these threads go left so predictably.

About the video:
Popular YouTube feels like "sweeps week" or some "ratings race", lately.
Controversy gets hits.
They never should've started paying these folks. (:lol:)

She herself said (previous vid) that back when her hair was pressed regularly it was long and healthy. Breakage set in after chemicals & too frequently using heat.

After watching it though, I think it may have opened the eyes of those who watch the long-haired exceptions to the rule teaching how constant heat usage @ temps of 400°+ is a "good thing".

I lol'd hard when she said "Heat training is not real..."

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
 
itsjusthair88 said:
Wow...this thread, like I said, I stick by whatever I said, I don't go back and negate my prior opinion; never have never will. The great thing about free speech (you know, the first amendment) is that I can say what I want, when I want, where I want and if my feeling is that she's giving "false hope" (because I believe I'm the one who said, you can call me out, I have no fear of a nameless avatar on a website) then those are my feelings, you don't have to share them or even agree with them. Would I like all of us to be civil about it? Sure, but I know we can't be. Now, if you feel like giving me the side eye...side eye until you pupils get stuck in your ears, if that's how you feel. I still love her hair, like I love everybody's hair who is healthy. I just don't ever comment on these kind of threads because it turns into 12 pages of "girl, side eye" or "girl WTF?!?!?!?" and it's too much for me...you lovely ladies have a lovely weekend.
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i'd still like to know what this "false hope" is all about... if we all claim to know that type 4 hair can grow, how is a type 3 calling themselves a 4 giving false hope? what difference does it make?

3s get shrinkage, just like 4s do, so i don't see how she's be giving false hope in that regard either.

you can believe what you want, and i can believe that your belief is rooted in ignorance, since i havent seen any valid explanation for it...

ETA: and it's nice that you aint neva scared and all, but i didnt "call you out" b/c your post was quite a few pages back by the time i made my post. i have a good memory, but it's not good enough to attach everything that was said to the exact person that posted. and it will never be serious enough for me to go combing through a thread looking for one post just so i can address it...

on top of that... you werent the only person to say that false hope mess...
 
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CrownCola said:
Funny read.
Love how these threads go left so predictably.

About the video:
Popular YouTube feels like "sweeps week" or some "ratings race", lately.
Controversy gets hits.
They never should've started paying these folks. (:lol:)

She herself said (previous vid) that back when her hair was pressed regularly it was long and healthy. Breakage set in after chemicals & too frequently using heat.

After watching it though, I think it may have opened the eyes of those who watch the long-haired exceptions to the rule teaching how constant heat usage @ temps of 400°+ is a "good thing".

I lol'd hard when she said "Heat training is not real..."

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
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It wasnt my intent for it to go this way.:lachen::lachen:
 
PPGbubbles said:
EllePixie
Im going to cut a rug with you, you been preaching logic all throughout this thread and people aint tryna hear it

GIFSoup
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LOL!!! Yes - Kid and Play!

It's cool...dey don't hear me doe...I'm just imagining people looking at Chime's hair with that sourpuss look on their face and their arms crossed like a pouting five year old - "But my hair doesn't do that!!! It's not fair!!! She's black!" And I am... :rofl:

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And let me note...the ONLY way she could give people false hope is if they are expecting their hair to look like hers, which would be stupid and their fault in the first place...
 
Well, I for one am so grateful I found this crazy placed called LHCF. I have gained so much confidence about my 4b kinks & naps, & such an appreciation for all black hair in general- from 2a-4z.

In my 4 year old's class earlier this week, her teacher asked her group to name one thing they liked about a friend, and one thing they liked about themselves. Well Sophia, having the hair-obsessed mom that she does :grin: said that "Emily has pretty, silky hair", & "Sophia has pretty, kinky hair".

Only LHCF could make a little black girl say something so beautiful :)

As irritating and annoying and frustrating as this conversation has been at times, I hope it's moved us forward. Even if just a little.
 
also, why were pics taken from her fotki and posted in here?? :nono:
am i acting brand new or something, cause that don't seem right to me....
 
EllePixie said:
I'm just imagining people looking at Chime's hair with that sourpuss look on their face and their arms crossed like a pouting five year old - "But my hair doesn't do that!!! It's not fair!!! She's black!" And I am... :rofl:
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they start off all happy, then hear her claim 4a/b...

GIFSoup

start walking away from the PC arms crossed all mad :lachen:

GIFSoup
 
Rocky91 said:
also, why were pics taken from her fotki and posted in here?? :nono:
am i acting brand new or something, cause that don't seem right to me....
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Actually I don't think it's an issue because people on here aren't profiting off her pictures, or causing her to lose money b/c she doesn't make $ off Fotki. Her Fotki is public, this is a public site.
 
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