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"I'm not relaxed" (Huh?)

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I always get confused when ppl claim natural when they have newgrowth, lol

It's quite funny actually, one woman told me she went natural once before when I asked her when, she said "well I didn't perm my hair for three months"
 
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HijabiFlygirl said:
Has anyone else noticed more ladies having an aversion to claiming their hair as "relaxed?" I have had a few encounters over the past few months (off line) with ladies being almost insulted with my referring to their hair as relaxed. They correct me and say "I'm NOT relaxed" or "I don't have a relaxer" - when their hair is CLEARLY chemically altered :look:,

--------"I'm texturized" or "I use a kiddie perm" is the quick retort I get. Ummmm did I miss something. I know some ladies know the difference, but this is not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about faking the funk.

I believe it was another poster who asked the question if texture was the new "paper bag test" or "good hair" marker of today, and I would surely have to agree.

:nono::ohwell:

I would like ladies to get over their texture and make healthy hair the "good hair." Crazy concept
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I think they say this because the "trend" now is natural and it's like in some cirlces, having relaxed hair is a dirty thing. So they they are texlax or whatever so they can fit in with the non-relaxed hair people but still have non-relaxed hair at the same time :lachen:/:yep:/:perplexed
 
and tell the uninformed that the term "kiddie perm" is just a slick marketing term. it is a full strength RELAXER! and its nothing to be ashamed of but stop lying to others about having a relaxer in your naturally nappy hair.

...and nappy hair is not a bad thing to have.
 
on hair boards, I use to say texlaxed because we all know what that means and I dont have to go into an explanation. irl, I say I have a very underprocessed relaxer. again no explanation needed.

also irl, I've had several people tell me that I'm natural right now since I have soooo much ng and I'm transistioning. I tell them that I will not be 'natural' for a long time (I'm not cutting all my texlaxed hair off for a long time). they try to argue that I am natural and I just shrug. you like it, I love it.....
 
ok so Ive never encountered this irl or on a board.

BTW ... whats the "paperbag test" ? I apologise in advance if its already been asked and answered
 
SimJam said:
ok so Ive never encountered this irl or on a board.

BTW ... whats the "paperbag test" ? I apologise in advance if its already been asked and answered
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Back in the day, they judged your skin tone by how light or dark you were in relationship to a paper bag. If you were lighter than the paper bag, you were pretty. Darker, not pretty.
 
hair4romheaven said:
I think its their business. If they feel they are not relaxed...so what????If they don't like thier texture....so what????
If I don't like my pinky toe...that darn pinky toe....so what??
As long as you love you..keep it moving
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Ok but why lie about having a relaxer? There's nothing wrong with relaxers or using other chemicals to achieve what you want.. But lying about it is frontin...I don't think there is anything wrong with specifying that they are texlaxed or have a texturizer. I mean WE know that a relaxer is involved in the process but I may like the result you achieved and want to know whether you mixed oil in your relaxer or whatever.
 
Yeah I've noticed what OP's saying. And ironically it seems like I'm always on the wrong side :). I was natural when everyone else was relax or die - petrified of the slightest new growth and humidity. Now I'm enjoying straight hair - well wigs and I like it and I'm thinking about relaxing my own hair to match while lots of people are drooling over certain curl patterns. So I'm out of trend again - but that's okay. :) Some people feel guilty and say silly things to justify their hairstyles because hair has been over politicized. I don't like that. Everyone should be free to play around with texture, color, and style etc., as they desire. Just my 2.5 cents.
 
I don't get why the replies are so "deep" on this topic. It seems like the ladies you are encountering think of a relaxer as a full-strength relaxer, used to get the hair straight. Many women use texturizers (yes, same chemical but it does say "texturizer" and not "relaxer" on the box), and kiddie perms to achieve a texturized effect.

Some people honestly don't know. I had a friend text me Sunday and ask is a texturizer a relaxer?

How many of us thought that deeply about the chemical content, ingredients, etc. before hair boards? If these ladies are happy with their hair, and it's not that serious to them, I don't see the problem. Why must they be "ashamed" of something???? Thankfully, in real life, people aren't as obsessed with hair labels. The people I work with have no idea if my hair is relaxed or natural, and it's not their business.
 
Great thread. IRL I have a good friend that relaxes with j4m every 6-8 months and touches her edges up when needed.. she says she is not relaxed. *shrug*

She likes it, so I love it :look:
 
I agree, great thread OP. I have been relaxed and I am currently natural and I can't tell the difference between someone who is texlaxed (texurized) and someone who is totally natural (I guess IRL, I don't really pay that much attention). I guess if in conversation it was discovered that said person wasn't truly "natural"...I don't know how I would feel...
 
wth?!?
if relaxer has been put on your hair for 5 mins or 5 hrs, tex or bone, just for me or whtever brand etc etc -----YOU ARE RELAXED!!!!!!!! nothing more nothing LESS. until u cut all your relaxed ends off your head you are still a chemically relaxed head that is transitioning.
 
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I think stylists have deluded people into thinking texturizers aren't relaxers. I think people are uneducated about things like this or some really don't care to know.:nono:
 
DDTexlaxed said:
I think stylists have deluded people into thinking texturizers aren't relaxers. I think people are uneducated about things like this or some really don't care to know.:nono:
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DD, I would love to hear more :yep: Do you think this would increase profits for the stylists? How would they benefit from this?
 
I had someone emphatically state that they were natural because they didn't use any hair products, only bar soap. Although I found it to be a bit eccentric, it didn't matter to me how she chose to define herself and/or her hair; she's content and I'm happy that she's content.

"...Define yourself for yourself..." ~Audre Lord~
 
Relaxed is all the same to me. If you put that chemical in your hair altering either your hair's natural state what so ever you are relaxed. I don't leave my relaxer in for*the full time suggested either does that mean I am texlaxed? I never even knew this was what texlaxed meant. Nah I don't need the extra confusion. I keep it simple. When I was natural I was just that- no chemicals nothing. And today that I am relaxed I'm not scurred to correct anyone who gets it wrong or even insinuates that 'oh girl u got that nice hair' no boo boo, relaxer and that brown gel.

Denial makes you look like a fool, because believe me half the time
people can tell so why are you playing yourself tellin all these lies.... LOL

Can I just say?, I'm proud to be relaxed. I do what's best for me. All these negative presumptions are not my problem. I'm loving my hair and it's growing everyday. Thank*God amen.**
 
I am texturized and everyone know I claim whatever I do to my hair, I like being texturized because I can still have my curls but not have to deal with so much dryness and have less shrinkage, I also like that my hair is able to stay soft all day. So I guess I am underprocessed. O well!
 
Was it just me? Back in the day, stylists would say if you didnt leave it on for the correct amount of time you would be underprocessed and that would cause breakage. So texlaxed 2010 is the underprocessed of yesteryear?
 
I don't know about all that, but I don't experience any breakage, just the norm, and I do protein treatments and keep up with moisture and all that good stuff.
 
A relaxer and a texturizer do the same thing... RELAX (Smooth/Loosen) the hair texture. However the only difference is the degree. If you use chemicals in your hair to soften, smooth, straighten, or loosen your hair texture in any way you are relaxed in my opinion. It shouldn't be so complicated. Relaxed, telaxed, texturized... just different "degrees" of relaxed hair.
 
sylver2 said:
wth?!?
if relaxer has been put on your hair for 5 mins or 5 hrs, tex or bone, just for me or whtever brand etc etc -----YOU ARE RELAXED!!!!!!!! nothing more nothing LESS. until u cut all your relaxed ends off your head you are still a chemically relaxed head that is transitioning.
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THANK YOU SYLVER!!...it is not that serious. Texlax is a hairboard/LHCF exclusive term---you go to the hair stylist, most don't know what "texlax" means. If I used BKT, then I would say it was thermally treated hair, if I texturized/relaxer--i would state that my hair is chemically altered.

When I wear a weave, if I leave some of my natural hair out, I don't say.."oh its my hair, just the bottom four tracks aren't mine"....smh...it is STILL a weave.
 
Ryanshope that is what I was gonna say, these are LHCF Terms, and No it is not that serious. People be digging deep, first what is natural, now relaxed, most of us on here know that Texturizers,Texlax etc. are Relaxers, it is just a way to describe the hair.
 
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