Why Are Cones A No-No?

Tanisha77 said:
Does Sodium Myreth Sulfate remove cones?
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I am almost 100% it does but I'll let someone else chime in with a yay or nay.

ETA: I tried to find my email from Victor (creator of Sabino Moisture Block) but I guess I deleted it. I do remember him saying that even the mildest sulfates will remove cones so SMS should be just fine.
 
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samanthajones67 said:
I use Castile soap.... That seems to remove any trace of silicone.
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Castile soap does NOT remove cones :)

There are many types of detergents that are able to remove cones... you don't have to use a sulfate poo. The most gentlest kind is Cocamidopropyl Betaine which is derived from coconut.
 
I currenlty use Abba Pure Moisture Shampoo. Here are the ingredients:

Botanical Infusion of: Water (Aqua) (Eau), Symphytum Officinale Rhizome/Root Extract, Geranium Maculatum Extract, Urtica Dioica (Nettle) Extract, Yucca Filamentosa Extract, Sodium Methyl Cocoyl Taurate, Cocamidopropyl Hydroxysultaine, Myristamine Oxide, Sodium PCA, Glycerin, Propylene Glycol, Glycol Stearate, Wheat Amino Acids (150 mw), Polyquaternium 10, Hydrolyzed Soy Protein (1000 mw), Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein (2000 mw), Hydrolyzed Wheat Starch, Mentha Arvensis Oil (Wild Mint), Disodium EDTA, Citric Acid, Limonene, Phenoxyethanol, Methyparaben, Propylparaben, ABBA Aromatherapy Fragrance (Parfum)

Will any of these ingredients help in removing cones?
 
Noir said:
Castile soap does NOT remove cones :)

There are many types of detergents that are able to remove cones... you don't have to use a sulfate poo. The most gentlest kind is Cocamidopropyl Betaine which is derived from coconut.
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My poo has this and something called Sodium Laureth sulfosuccinate, is this good or bad?
 
Kimiche said:
I currenlty use Abba Pure Moisture Shampoo. Here are the ingredients:

Botanical Infusion of: Water (Aqua) (Eau), Symphytum Officinale Rhizome/Root Extract, Geranium Maculatum Extract, Urtica Dioica (Nettle) Extract, Yucca Filamentosa Extract, Sodium Methyl Cocoyl Taurate, Cocamidopropyl Hydroxysultaine, Myristamine Oxide, Sodium PCA, Glycerin, Propylene Glycol, Glycol Stearate, Wheat Amino Acids (150 mw), Polyquaternium 10, Hydrolyzed Soy Protein (1000 mw), Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein (2000 mw), Hydrolyzed Wheat Starch, Mentha Arvensis Oil (Wild Mint), Disodium EDTA, Citric Acid, Limonene, Phenoxyethanol, Methyparaben, Propylparaben, ABBA Aromatherapy Fragrance (Parfum)

Will any of these ingredients help in removing cones?
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Looks like it. Cocamidopropyl hydroxysultaine is described as a common replacement for cocamodopropyl betaine present in shampoo.

For your review: http://www.purist.com.au/ingredients.php

HTH
 
nurseN98 said:
If you use a shampoo with Cocamidopropyl betaine, that should be enough to wash off most cones and it's gentle.
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That is what I heard so when I use cone products I make sure to wash with Burt's Bees raspberry brazil nut moisturizing something something the other. I used to be cone free, but I really like how cone conditioners feel on my hair. My last few bottles of conditioner have been drug store brands with cones and to battle that I would just wash with that shampoo every once in a while. Lately though, I think it may have something to do with the weather or something, I dunno, but my hair has been really dry and I think that is a result of the shampoo. I've been cone free this week and my hair is loving it. Once it stabilizes, I could imagine myself going back to cones though. Maybe in the spring or something.
 
Does any of these ingredients remove cones?

Ingredients: Sodium C14-16 Olefin Sulfonate, Purified Water, Cocamide MEA, Citrus Paradisi (Grapefruit) Extract, Citric Acid, Guar Hydroxytrimonium Chloride, Phenolphthalein (pH Color Indicator), Methylparaben (USP Grade), Imidazolidinyl Urea, DMDM Hydantoin, Fragrance/Parfum.
 
Conditioners loaded with silicones were recommended to me to help in detangling my hair. But they ended up having the opposite effect. The more I put on, the more it's like it's gluing my strands together, particularly if my hair is not super soaking dripping wet.
 
msa said:
Unless they're water soluble they have to be removed with sulfates (which is drying to some people's hair). I've heard baking soda can remove some but I don't know if that's actually true.

They give your hair a silky smooth feel but they block out moisture, not completely but it can make moisturizing ineffective. So, your hair can slowly dry out but it will be hidden by the silkiness of the cones. In the end, that dryness can cause breakage. This is especially a problem if the cones build up. Then it almost doesn't matter how much you moisturize.

They're great when you want to use heat though. I don't use heat but I know if I ever decide to flat iron I will find the strongest cones out there in order to protect my hair.

Some people's hair does fine with cones, some don't. Some people find it easier to detangle when they use products with cones because it makes their hair more slippery/smooth and the comb glides through. They're not bad for everyone or all the time, it's all about how often you use them and how much you let them build up.
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This is a great explanation. I am experimenting with cones after avoiding them like the plague. As my hair gets longer I find I need help with detangling and some of the light weight cones give me great slip... If I am not careful with detangling, I am going to get breakage so I will continue to use light cones monitor and clarify as needed. I'll see where this takes me.
 
Bumping for folks with questions about cones, that link is really helpful...this is going into the archives

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Its nice to check back and see the post is making progress. I had a lot of my questions answered but I'm still skeptic. Some moments I want to use cones, but I'm going to have to search for products with C B in it so I can remove the cones when I do use them. I won't use them too much unless I'm going to be straight for awhile.
 
Tanisha77 said:
Does any of these ingredients remove cones?

Ingredients: Sodium C14-16 Olefin Sulfonate, Purified Water, Cocamide MEA, Citrus Paradisi (Grapefruit) Extract, Citric Acid, Guar Hydroxytrimonium Chloride, Phenolphthalein (pH Color Indicator), Methylparaben (USP Grade), Imidazolidinyl Urea, DMDM Hydantoin, Fragrance/Parfum.
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The Sodium C14-16 Olefin Sulfonate probably does. That ingredient is the "natural" SLS. It is a surfactant that does the same thing as other sulfates. It can be just as drying which is why a lot of people find "natural" shampoos to be just as harsh on their hair.

And, it's not necessarily natural. It can be derived from coconuts but it can also be derived from petrochemicals, and I'm pretty sure companies don't have to write where they got it from on the bottle.
 
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