I am too scared to go to the beauty salon. I've heard tooo many horror stories. /images/graemlins/shocked.gif
If my hair becomes damaged(God forbid) let it be because of something I did. I have children to raise and God knows i can not afford to be spending time behind bars for killing someone for messing up my mane
If my hair becomes damaged(God forbid) let it be because of something I did. I have children to raise and God knows i can not afford to be spending time behind bars for killing someone for messing up my mane
LondonDiva
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It is harder and harder to relax though, as my hair grows longer and longer.
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Oh no Zanna /images/graemlins/nono.gif I was hoping you wouldn't say that. I'm about 4 inches away from BS now and the longer it gets it's becoming that bit more difficult. UGH!
zanna said:
It is harder and harder to relax though, as my hair grows longer and longer.
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Oh no Zanna /images/graemlins/nono.gif I was hoping you wouldn't say that. I'm about 4 inches away from BS now and the longer it gets it's becoming that bit more difficult. UGH!
LondonDiva
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MissJ said:
Thanks LondonDiva. Is that how you manage to comb it or relax it? I even have a hard time combing at about the 4 week mark. So, MSM makes the hair easier to manage? I never take anything for my hair. I just thought the pills were used to make the hair grow, but I have no problem with that. You relax your own hair? How long does it take? On the relaxer box it says that you shouldn't go more than 15-20 minutes while relaxing. When I get my hair relaxed, I estimate that it takes about 30 minutes. If I tried to do it myself I'm concerned that it would take up to an hour, I would be bald.
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MissJ By parting it into 4 is how I relax it. I comb it in the shower and when it's damp when battling between the two textures.
The MSM is said by a lot of ladies to soften up the new growth and sometimes changing the hair texture depending on how much you take.
I never really pay attention to the minutes on the box, although I don't go overboard and relax for an hour. It usually takes me about 40 minutes start to finish. It's a long time, but for me I don't have any problems with my hair when doing this.
MissJ said:
Thanks LondonDiva. Is that how you manage to comb it or relax it? I even have a hard time combing at about the 4 week mark. So, MSM makes the hair easier to manage? I never take anything for my hair. I just thought the pills were used to make the hair grow, but I have no problem with that. You relax your own hair? How long does it take? On the relaxer box it says that you shouldn't go more than 15-20 minutes while relaxing. When I get my hair relaxed, I estimate that it takes about 30 minutes. If I tried to do it myself I'm concerned that it would take up to an hour, I would be bald.
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MissJ By parting it into 4 is how I relax it. I comb it in the shower and when it's damp when battling between the two textures.
The MSM is said by a lot of ladies to soften up the new growth and sometimes changing the hair texture depending on how much you take.
I never really pay attention to the minutes on the box, although I don't go overboard and relax for an hour. It usually takes me about 40 minutes start to finish. It's a long time, but for me I don't have any problems with my hair when doing this.
zanna
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the difficulty is(wich is not so bad)that it take longer to separate the hair in section(to apply the relaxer), as my hair strands are longer. and remember there is a timing to keep up with. But I manage so far, I apply it as fast as possible, so the smoothing time can remain on scheddule!
Sincerely
Zanna
Sincerely
Zanna
LondonDiva
New Member
Thanks Zanna.
At your current length how long does it take you to apply your relaxer and do the smoothing before you wash it out?
At your current length how long does it take you to apply your relaxer and do the smoothing before you wash it out?
zanna
New Member
LondonDiva,
It takes me to apply the relaxer(beautifulBeginings child relaxer)about 10 mn, then the smoothing and relaxer taking, takes me(well I leave it no more than 13 mn). I always watch my timer because I dont want to over process my hair. My hair not bone strait but I am satisfied with it like that. I want my hair healthy and strong more than anything.
Sincerely
Zanna
It takes me to apply the relaxer(beautifulBeginings child relaxer)about 10 mn, then the smoothing and relaxer taking, takes me(well I leave it no more than 13 mn). I always watch my timer because I dont want to over process my hair. My hair not bone strait but I am satisfied with it like that. I want my hair healthy and strong more than anything.
Sincerely
Zanna
LondonDiva
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Thanks Zanna. I wish I could apply the relaxer in like 10 minutes. I think it's going to take a few more goes before I master this. I just can't help smoothing as I go along, maybe that's way it's so time consuming. /images/graemlins/scratchchin.gif
azul11
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dumb question but how do you guys see behind your head? do you have a mirror in the front and back or do you have someone do the back for you? do you have a full size mirror behind you or a hand held? is there like a tape out there called hair care for dummies? God bless you all.
LondonDiva
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Not a dumb question at all girl.
In my bathroom I have a small cabinet mirror and a long horizintal wall mounted mirror which are positioned at a 90 degree angle. When I position the door of the small cabinet mirror I can see the whole of the back of my head in the other mirror. I honestly wouldn't have a clue how I'd manage otherwise.
In my bathroom I have a small cabinet mirror and a long horizintal wall mounted mirror which are positioned at a 90 degree angle. When I position the door of the small cabinet mirror I can see the whole of the back of my head in the other mirror. I honestly wouldn't have a clue how I'd manage otherwise.
zanna
New Member
Yes you should apply it in all your hair sections and then smooth then all after applying the relaxer, because what time would be left to the last section when you used most of the time to apply and smooth together? It would result in an underprocessed last section(I have done this before:not very good).
Sincerely
Zanna
Sincerely
Zanna
CynamonKis
Active Member
I will say this: just about EVERY MAJOR HAIR FIASCO I have experienced, including the current one in which my formerly shoulder-length hair is GONE, has occured at the hands of so-called hair professionals.
After the latest fiasco, I stumbled upon this board thru an internet search, to look for answers. Through the knowledge found on THIS BOARD I am learning to care for my hair, finally and I am so very thankful to you all. You don't know how the loss of my hair has affected me.....
After the latest fiasco, I stumbled upon this board thru an internet search, to look for answers. Through the knowledge found on THIS BOARD I am learning to care for my hair, finally and I am so very thankful to you all. You don't know how the loss of my hair has affected me.....
The more knowledge i acquire about haircare, the LESS tempted i am to set foot in a salon. I remember last year (just before my diaster) i started lurking the boards. I had a general idea about neutralizing shamp, hot oil treats, and deep condits by then (all of which were NEVER used in the salon i used to frequent). I got turned off at tat point but decided that i would Request a deep condit service and so forth.. that was the last time i sat in that salon! I asked for my hair to be neutralized and she said "mami u bring relaxer, why you not bring shampoo?" /images/graemlins/mad.gif Que??? What?? I thought they were supposed to have that IN the salon. then she left the relaxer on (super) for 40 minutes and my scalp ghad burned horribly and ultimately my hair fell out in that area... I've just gotten it under control /images/graemlins/frown.gif.
All that to say, whatever i cant do for myself, I'll just have to learn.
All that to say, whatever i cant do for myself, I'll just have to learn.
UmSumayyah
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Cynamonkis, what happened?
CynamonKis
Active Member
Up until recently I had shoulder-length hair, even past shoulder length hair. I was, or so I thought I was, trying to stay natural so I began using Bodiphier & used it for 6 months. My hair didn't fall out but looked "wild".
Got frustrated because it didn't get certain parts of my hair straight so I went to see my stylist & she, using Bodiphier's instructions, applied the Bodiphier and put me under a warm dryer.
Immediately AFTEWARDS, she applied COLOR (Wella Midway, a peroxide, no amonia color) to my hair. This combination of chemicals fried my hair & hair began coming out. It wasn't until I got on these boards that I began to find a solution because my stylist was unaware of what had occured until I brought it to her attention by asking for DRC-28 (a product I learned about from this board). Things are on the mend partially due to a regimen she recommended, but mainly from the knowledge of people on this board.
UmSumayyah, I am heartbroken, devastated, to say the least.....but I am thankful for this board...
Got frustrated because it didn't get certain parts of my hair straight so I went to see my stylist & she, using Bodiphier's instructions, applied the Bodiphier and put me under a warm dryer.
Immediately AFTEWARDS, she applied COLOR (Wella Midway, a peroxide, no amonia color) to my hair. This combination of chemicals fried my hair & hair began coming out. It wasn't until I got on these boards that I began to find a solution because my stylist was unaware of what had occured until I brought it to her attention by asking for DRC-28 (a product I learned about from this board). Things are on the mend partially due to a regimen she recommended, but mainly from the knowledge of people on this board.
UmSumayyah, I am heartbroken, devastated, to say the least.....but I am thankful for this board...
UmSumayyah
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I'd be upset too if I had that much hair and lost it. But it will grow back, (gw). Just keep on keepin' on. /images/graemlins/wink.gif
Kitkat
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Before I joined this board, I was flirting with the idea of getting a Bodiphier. For some reason, I didn't do it, and I'm glad. LondonDiva, another 4a/4b, mentioned that it dried her hair out.
Cynamonkis, your hair will come back to its full glory in no time! I'm sorry to hear your hairdresser horror story.
Cynamonkis, your hair will come back to its full glory in no time! I'm sorry to hear your hairdresser horror story.
CynamonKis
Active Member
Kitkat thank you for your kind and encouraging words, I HOPE it does grow back.
My hair is 3-type with some parts of my hair straighter than others & while I didn't experience the drying effects that Londondiva did, the Bodiphier got some parts of my hair straights, others not.
If you really want relaxed hair, go with a lye relaxer. People on this board seem to like Affirm, I was looking into Motions Oil Lye Mild when I was considering lye. Some people have used it long term with great sucess, but I read a report of problems after long-term use from someone on this board, which just confirms for me, again, that everyone's hair is different.
If you want to be natural, then just be natural. Many of the ladies on this board have had great success styling their natural locks. I'm chosing natural because me & my baby-fine hair are just fed up with the chemical scene....
Good luck to you, Kitkat.
My hair is 3-type with some parts of my hair straighter than others & while I didn't experience the drying effects that Londondiva did, the Bodiphier got some parts of my hair straights, others not.
If you really want relaxed hair, go with a lye relaxer. People on this board seem to like Affirm, I was looking into Motions Oil Lye Mild when I was considering lye. Some people have used it long term with great sucess, but I read a report of problems after long-term use from someone on this board, which just confirms for me, again, that everyone's hair is different.
If you want to be natural, then just be natural. Many of the ladies on this board have had great success styling their natural locks. I'm chosing natural because me & my baby-fine hair are just fed up with the chemical scene....
Good luck to you, Kitkat.
LondonDiva
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Good Luck Cynamonkis, there's no hoping it WILL grow back. /images/graemlins/smile.gif
CynamonKis
Active Member
Thanks for the kind words, Umsumayyah. With the knowledge I'm gaining re: hair care from these boards I hope to re-gain my lost hair by next year....
CynamonKis
Active Member
I think in the future I will go to my stylist only when I need my hair trimmed. The rest of the care I think I can handle based on the knowledge gained from these boards. While I really love my stylist, the info. from these boards will help me to see her less.
The good news is that my stylist is not one of those scissor-happy stylists that you hear about, she is very conservative with the scissors. Also, she is the one who put the weave in my hair which helped it to grow in the 1st place -- she was devastated about my hair loss & has been trying to help me recover. And she is the one who suggested I stick with roller-sets and hair-wraps LONG AGO and I didn't want to listen, so I will give her the deserved props for those things. She was very leery about the Bodiphier product, and is mad at herself that I convinced her to put it in my hair. We both now know it is not "natural" as they claim.
The good news is that my stylist is not one of those scissor-happy stylists that you hear about, she is very conservative with the scissors. Also, she is the one who put the weave in my hair which helped it to grow in the 1st place -- she was devastated about my hair loss & has been trying to help me recover. And she is the one who suggested I stick with roller-sets and hair-wraps LONG AGO and I didn't want to listen, so I will give her the deserved props for those things. She was very leery about the Bodiphier product, and is mad at herself that I convinced her to put it in my hair. We both now know it is not "natural" as they claim.
CynamonKis
Active Member
/images/graemlins/smile.gifYes Londondiva thank you I am beginning to believe that it WILL grow back....
I never go to hairdressers. My mother puts relaxers in my hair for me. I wash my hair and style it by myself. Last night I even did an Aphogee treatment by myself using a handheld dryer. I don't like hairdressers because they charge too much for the simplest services and most do not know how to handle long hair.
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Madison said:
God knows i can not afford to be spending time behind bars for killing someone for messing up my mane
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/images/graemlins/grin.gif LOL
Yes and I have wanted to kill some. I'm saving money and I like doing it at my leisure, still scared to try to relax though so they'll see me at every six to eight wks.
Madison said:
God knows i can not afford to be spending time behind bars for killing someone for messing up my mane
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/images/graemlins/grin.gif LOL
Yes and I have wanted to kill some. I'm saving money and I like doing it at my leisure, still scared to try to relax though so they'll see me at every six to eight wks.
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Okay guys, I think I have a good list of things I need to get in order to take off!
1. Hood dryer
2. Flexi-rods (various sizes)
3. Various size rollers (hard kind)
4. Clips (to clamp rollers)
5. Plastic caps
6. Electric pressing comb
and then I am set! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif
1. Hood dryer
2. Flexi-rods (various sizes)
3. Various size rollers (hard kind)
4. Clips (to clamp rollers)
5. Plastic caps
6. Electric pressing comb
and then I am set! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif
TwistNMx
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CurlyCrly said:
I haven't been to a hairdresser since the mid 80's. I can do a better job myself. I have very thick hair and it was past my bra strap at one time. I am now growing back my hair after going natural, then texturizing (relaxer). My goal is to grow it to where it used to be, and then some.
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/images/graemlins/smile.gif I agree with you CurlyCrly. I've had many nightmares with hairdressers. I'm sure that there may be a few good ones somewhere out there..I think.
Anyway, I totally agree with you. Since I've been doing my own hair, I don't have to worry about anything. My hair has already grown about 2 inches since I took matters in my own hands...no relaxer damage...no scalp burns...etc. It goes with that old addage...."If you want something done right...you have to do it yourself". /images/graemlins/grin.gif
Natural 3A/B and Very Happy /images/graemlins/smile.gif
CurlyCrly said:
I haven't been to a hairdresser since the mid 80's. I can do a better job myself. I have very thick hair and it was past my bra strap at one time. I am now growing back my hair after going natural, then texturizing (relaxer). My goal is to grow it to where it used to be, and then some.
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/images/graemlins/smile.gif I agree with you CurlyCrly. I've had many nightmares with hairdressers. I'm sure that there may be a few good ones somewhere out there..I think.
Anyway, I totally agree with you. Since I've been doing my own hair, I don't have to worry about anything. My hair has already grown about 2 inches since I took matters in my own hands...no relaxer damage...no scalp burns...etc. It goes with that old addage...."If you want something done right...you have to do it yourself". /images/graemlins/grin.gif
Natural 3A/B and Very Happy /images/graemlins/smile.gif
hairfanatic
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2. Flexi-rods (various sizes)
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I'm with you Karonica,
I really want to try these but I keep thinking...how do you keep them to stay in?
2. Flexi-rods (various sizes)
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I'm with you Karonica,
I really want to try these but I keep thinking...how do you keep them to stay in?
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I know! It's some kind of way they twist them around or something, I don't know. I'll figure out though, when I want them bad enough. Lol /images/graemlins/grin.gif
Lol...actually they're very easy to put in, and surprising they have a very tight hold. What I do is I put the ends of the parted section of hair around the bottom of a rod, twist it up until it touches the scalp (by this point the hair will be spiraled(sp?) around the rod), and then simply fold the top part of the rod down. Voila. It is very easy, very fast, and to me much easier than roller setting. Although the hair falls in actual spiral curls, but I don't mind because its cute. HTH /images/graemlins/wink.gif
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