What do you think??? Leviticus 16:29

maxineshaw

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And this shall be a statute for ever unto you: that in the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, ye shall afflict your souls, and do no work at all, whether it be one of your own country, or a stranger that sojourneth among you

My mother brought me into her room and said that the Lord led her to this scripture. The first time I read it, she asked me if I noticed anything strange. I read it twice, and then I realized that today is "the seventh month on the tenth day of the month". Hmmmmm....God has very interesting timing. My mother has been saved for seven years, and she's never noticed this until now.

I'm wondering what your opinions are of this scripture. What does "afflict your souls" mean exactly?
 
My mother brought me into her room and said that the Lord led her to this scripture. The first time I read it, she asked me if I noticed anything strange. I read it twice, and then I realized that today is "the seventh month on the tenth day of the month". Hmmmmm....God has very interesting timing. My mother has been saved for seven years, and she's never noticed this until now.

I'm wondering what your opinions are of this scripture. What does "afflict your souls" mean exactly?

apparently YHWH wants your mom to REST! To have an absolute Sabbath rest and just have a day of her and Him and to just have ABSOLUTE SABBATH! YHWH is saying he wants time with her to cleanse and love and atone and refresh her.


I have it in HCSB version. Lev 16:29-32. Good to get all context


“This is to be a permanent statute for you: In the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month you are to practice self-denial and do no work, both the native and the foreigner who resides among you. 30 Atonement will be made for you on this day to cleanse you, and you will be clean from all your sins before the Lord. 31 It is a Sabbath of complete rest for you, and you must practice self-denial; it is a permanent statute.
 
I surely hate to post as a know-it-all (not my intent, so please bear with me) but this is referring to Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement that is set in stone until the end of ages. It's not the Sabbath, it's the Day of Atonement. God bless.
 
So is today Yom Kippur?


LOL. Good one! The months and times in Hebrew are different. Around September, Yom Kippur. Maybe God was telling her something else???

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http://askdrbrown.org/

Oh, and about that personal revelation to somebody's mother, that's personal so I can't say what God had to tell her....just that that scripture refers to the High Holy Day of Yom Kippur.
 
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It is Yom Kipper, "the Sabbath of Sabbaths". It is a day of Atonement, but it is not incorrect to call it a Sabbath day either. It is not like a regular Sabbath though, and has additional requirements than just resting etc.

Eta: Resting meaning refraining from work.
 
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Not about resting, about atoning for one's sins. It's a day to afflict oneself and repent for this heavenly appointed time for all the world, which continues today...for all humanity. Appointments of judgment and mercy...not the Sabbath.

Yom Kippur
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Level: Basic
Significance: Day of Atonement
Observances: Fasting, Prayer and Repentance
Length: 25 Hours
Greeting: Have an easy fast
Liturgy additions: Annulment of vows; lengthy confession of sins
[SIZE=-1]...In the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, you shall afflict your souls, and you shall not do any work ... For on that day he shall provide atonement for you to cleanse you from all your sins before the L-RD. -Leviticus 16:29-30[/SIZE]​
Yom Kippur is probably the most important holiday of the Jewish year. Many Jews who do not observe any other Jewish custom will refrain from work, fast and/or attend synagogue services on this day. Yom Kippur occurs on the 10th day of Tishri. The holiday is instituted at Leviticus 23:26 et seq.
The name "Yom Kippur" means "Day of Atonement," and that pretty much explains what the holiday is. It is a day set aside to "afflict the soul," to atone for the sins of the past year. In Days of Awe, I mentioned the "books" in which G-d inscribes all of our names. On Yom Kippur, the judgment entered in these books is sealed. This day is, essentially, your last appeal, your last chance to change the judgment, to demonstrate your repentance and make amends.
As I noted in Days of Awe, Yom Kippur atones only for sins between man and G-d, not for sins against another person. To atone for sins against another person, you must first seek reconciliation with that person, righting the wrongs you committed against them if possible. That must all be done before Yom Kippur.
Yom Kippur is a complete Sabbath; no work can be performed on that day. It is well-known that you are supposed to refrain from eating and drinking (even water) on Yom Kippur. It is a complete, 25-hour fast beginning before sunset on the evening before Yom Kippur and ending after nightfall on the day of Yom Kippur. The Talmud also specifies additional restrictions that are less well-known: washing and bathing, anointing one's body (with cosmetics, deodorants, etc.), wearing leather shoes (Orthodox Jews routinely wear canvas sneakers under their dress clothes on Yom Kippur), and engaging in sexual relations are all prohibited on Yom Kippur.
As always, any of these restrictions can be lifted where a threat to life or health is involved. In fact, children under the age of nine and women in childbirth (from the time labor begins until three days after birth) are not permitted to fast, even if they want to. Older children and women from the third to the seventh day after childbirth are permitted to fast, but are permitted to break the fast if they feel the need to do so. People with other illnesses should consult a physician and a rabbi for advice.
Most of the holiday is spent in the synagogue, in prayer. In Orthodox synagogues, services begin early in the morning (8 or 9 AM) and continue until about 3 PM. People then usually go home for an afternoon nap and return around 5 or 6 PM for the afternoon and evening services, which continue until nightfall. The services end at nightfall, with the blowing of the tekiah gedolah, a long blast on the shofar. See Rosh Hashanah for more about the shofar and its characteristic blasts.
It is customary to wear white on the holiday, which symbolizes purity and calls to mind the promise that our sins shall be made as white as snow (Is. 1:18). Some people wear a kittel, the white robe in which the dead are buried.
Yom Kippur Liturgy

See also Jewish Liturgy generally.
The liturgy for Yom Kippur is much more extensive than for any other day of the year. Liturgical changes are so far-reaching that a separate, special prayer book for Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah. This prayer book is called the machzor.
The evening service that begins Yom Kippur is commonly known as Kol Nidre, named for the prayer that begins the service. "Kol nidre" means "all vows," and in this prayer, we ask G-d to annul all personal vows we may make in the next year. It refers only to vows between the person making them and G-d, such as "If I pass this test, I'll pray every day for the next 6 months!" Click the musical notes to hear a portion of the traditional tune for this prayer.
This prayer has often been held up by anti-Semites as proof that Jews are untrustworthy (we do not keep our vows), and for this reason the Reform movement removed it from the liturgy for a while. In fact, the reverse is true: we make this prayer because we take vows so seriously that we consider ourselves bound even if we make the vows under duress or in times of stress when we are not thinking straight. This prayer gave comfort to those who were converted to Christianity by torture in various inquisitions, yet felt unable to break their vow to follow Christianity. In recognition of this history, the Reform movement restored this prayer to its liturgy.
There are many additions to the regular liturgy (there would have to be, to get such a long service <grin>). Perhaps the most important addition is the confession of the sins of the community, which is inserted into the Shemoneh Esrei (Amidah) prayer. Note that all sins are confessed in the plural (we have done this, we have done that), emphasizing communal responsibility for sins.
There are two basic parts of this confession: Ashamnu, a shorter, more general list (we have been treasonable, we have been aggressive, we have been slanderous...), and Al Cheit, a longer and more specific list (for the sin we sinned before you forcibly or willingly, and for the sin we sinned before you by acting callously...) Frequent petitions for forgiveness are interspersed in these prayers. There's also a catch-all confession: "Forgive us the breach of positive commands and negative commands, whether or not they involve an act, whether or not they are known to us."
It is interesting to note that these confessions do not specifically address the kinds of ritual sins that some people think are the be-all-and-end-all of Judaism. There is no "for the sin we have sinned before you by eating pork, and for the sin we have sinned against you by driving on Shabbat" (though obviously these are implicitly included in the catch-all). The vast majority of the sins enumerated involve mistreatment of other people, most of them by speech (offensive speech, scoffing, slander, talebearing, and swearing falsely, to name a few). These all come into the category of sin known as "lashon ha-ra" (lit: the evil tongue), which is considered a very serious sin in Judaism.
The concluding service of Yom Kippur, known as Ne'ilah, is one unique to the day. It usually runs about 1 hour long. The ark (a cabinet where the scrolls of the Torah are kept) is kept open throughout this service, thus you must stand throughout the service. There is a tone of desperation in the prayers of this service. The service is sometimes referred to as the closing of the gates; think of it as the "last chance" to get in a good word before the holiday ends. The service ends with a very long blast of the shofar. See Rosh Hashanah for more about the shofar and its characteristic blasts.
After Yom Kippur, one should begin preparing for the next holiday, Sukkot, which begins five days later.
List of Dates

Yom Kippur will occur on the following days of the Gregorian calendar:

  • Jewish Year 5769: sunset October 8, 2008 - nightfall October 9, 2008
  • Jewish Year 5770: sunset September 27, 2009 - nightfall September 28, 2009
  • Jewish Year 5771: sunset September 17, 2010 - nightfall September 18, 2010
  • Jewish Year 5772: sunset October 7, 2011 - nightfall October 8, 2011
  • Jewish Year 5773: sunset September 25, 2012 - nightfall September 26, 2012
 
Thank you everyone. I totally forgot I posted this. I appreciate all of the responses.:grin:

I surely hate to post as a know-it-all (not my intent, so please bear with me) but this is referring to Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement that is set in stone until the end of ages. It's not the Sabbath, it's the Day of Atonement. God bless.

@ the bolded: by all mean, post. I find your words very knowledgeable and pleasant to read. They were actually on point with what God was pointing out to my mother.

For some reason I cannot shake the feeling YHWH's telling her He IS truly desiring to spend some intimate time with her. I can't shake that feeling. Don't know why.

:yep::yep:

Another perspective:

Uhhmm, where it at luthiengirlie?:lachen: You can't just leave us hangin' you know. We will call you out:lachen::lachen:
 
Thank you everyone. I totally forgot I posted this. I appreciate all of the responses.:grin:



@ the bolded: by all mean, post. I find your words very knowledgeable and pleasant to read. They were actually on point with what God was pointing out to my mother.



:yep::yep:



Uhhmm, where it at luthiengirlie?:lachen: You can't just leave us hangin' you know. We will call you out:lachen::lachen:

Oh my dear:shocked: :lachen: here IS the other perspective:It shall be a statute to you forever that in the seventh month [nearly October] on the tenth day of the month you shall afflict yourselves [by fasting with penitence and humiliation] and do no work at all, either the native-born or the stranger who dwells temporarily among you. (Amplified) I will update the next post with another version
 
Complete Jewish Bible:

"It is to be a permanent regulation for you that on the tenth day of the seventh month you are to deny yourselves and not do any kind of work, both the citizen and the foreigner living with you.

Praying this helps u to study further!
 
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