What are you doing for your daughters??

Hi there Kisz:

PLEASE don't put any chemicals in your daughter's hair. Those are easily two of the most gorgeous girls I've ever seen. I too have daughters with vastly different hair types. My oldest has long wavy hair with big waves and curls. . . the sort of hair folks buy for weaves that aren't bone straight. We're not too particular about products for her because combs and brushes pretty much sail right through it. She likes a little holding product to keep the wispy hair laid down.

My middle child has kinkier coarser hair that is thick and lush. We primarily do two strand twists and box braids. I keep manipulation to a minimum. I like to use butters on her moist hair when twisting or braiding. I have my own glycerin spritz which I use for moisture. I try to get her to sleep in her satin bonnet. Sometimes I moisten her hair and keep her in a plastic cap overnight.

My 17 month old has thick kinky wavy hair that though long shrinks like the middle child but has a looser curl pattern. I usually let her rock a wild fro but lately after washing I put a few box braids in the front and put it into pony puffs on the sides.

Long and short I follow their hairs lead. I don't try to make their hair follow mine. Gosh your daughters are beautiful and I know that carrying for multiple heads of hair is time-CONSUMING. But it sounds like what you want are solutions for keeping HER hair healthy and growing. It looks like there's not a problem with that yet.

Don't respond to that woman's IGNORANT OUT OF LINE comment by eliminating the "kitchen". Celebrate those pearls and vocalize to your daughter their place in this world: ON HER LITTLE GORGEOUS HEAD.

Give me the girlfriend's email address. I'd like to educate her on your behalf. ~smile~

P1
 
Your girls are gorgeous. I've found that simple is the only thing that works for my daughter's hair. I will give her a deep conditioning treatment once a month - basically putting the conditioner in overnight and rinsing in the morning. For daily styling - her hair stays in the same style each day. All I do is spritz it with a mixture of conditioner and water. Sometimes during the week I may add some pure shea butter that I got in bulk from crabapplesoapfactory.com or coconut oil. When it's wash day, I usually wash it with conditioner only. Maybe once every month to 6 weeks, I will use shampoo. It really depends on whether I think her scalp is dirty enough for shampoo. Her hair lathers up pretty well with shampoo so I don't use it that often because I know she doesn't have a lot of buildup of products in her hair.

You say your daughter's hair looks dry but the key is does it FEEL dry. With her hair texture, it's not going to have the same shine/glow that a looser curl pattern will have because of the way that light is being reflected off the hair. If her hair is not crunchy, then you're probably looking for her hair to do something that it's not going to do unless you put a shine product in it. Back when I hadn't found the hairboards, my daughter's hair was crunchy and that's when I got on the 'net and found out about deep conditioning. After I did that on a consistent basis, I haven't experienced that issue. But because of her hair texture AND the color of her hair, her hair looks dry all the time. Initially I thought her hair was getting too much time in the sun, but this year when I was home and she wasn't outside all day playing at camp, I realized that her hair was actually that color. But it's always soft and moisturized so I don't worry anything about it.

Shea butter and coconut oil is all the oil that I use for the both of us.
 
Thanks P1........Looks like you have your hands full, so you know what I'm going through. No worries,I don't have any intentions of putting chemicals in her hair. I can see I'm going to encounter more issues with styling. For instance yesterday I wore a bun, Teilese wanted a side bun when I went to do Jailyn's ponytails she cried and said we both have buns and she doesn't. I really haven't figured out how to handle that yet. :( Did you have any of those issues?
patient1 said:
Hi there Kisz:

PLEASE don't put any chemicals in your daughter's hair. Those are easily two of the most gorgeous girls I've ever seen. I too have daughters with vastly different hair types. My oldest has long wavy hair with big waves and curls. . . the sort of hair folks buy for weaves that aren't bone straight. We're not too particular about products for her because combs and brushes pretty much sail right through it. She likes a little holding product to keep the wispy hair laid down.

My middle child has kinkier coarser hair that is thick and lush. We primarily do two strand twists and box braids. I keep manipulation to a minimum. I like to use butters on her moist hair when twisting or braiding. I have my own glycerin spritz which I use for moisture. I try to get her to sleep in her satin bonnet. Sometimes I moisten her hair and keep her in a plastic cap overnight.

My 17 month old has thick kinky wavy hair that though long shrinks like the middle child but has a looser curl pattern. I usually let her rock a wild fro but lately after washing I put a few box braids in the front and put it into pony puffs on the sides.

Long and short I follow their hairs lead. I don't try to make their hair follow mine. Gosh your daughters are beautiful and I know that carrying for multiple heads of hair is time-CONSUMING. But it sounds like what you want are solutions for keeping HER hair healthy and growing. It looks like there's not a problem with that yet.

Don't respond to that woman's IGNORANT OUT OF LINE comment by eliminating the "kitchen". Celebrate those pearls and vocalize to your daughter their place in this world: ON HER LITTLE GORGEOUS HEAD.

Give me the girlfriend's email address. I'd like to educate her on your behalf. ~smile~

P1
 
Hey GMMP, your lil man is looking adorable.

I think that I may lay off of the shampoo a bit, and do more CW's. Looks like shea butter is the thing to use, I'll also look for that this weekend.

You do don't style your daughters hair in the morning for school? At night I remove her ponytail bo-bos. In the morning I spray and rebrush her hair and put the bo-bos back in and retwist her hair. Is that too much manipulation?

I suppose her hair is growing but I can't really see a difference.
GodMadeMePretty said:
Your girls are gorgeous. I've found that simple is the only thing that works for my daughter's hair. I will give her a deep conditioning treatment once a month - basically putting the conditioner in overnight and rinsing in the morning. For daily styling - her hair stays in the same style each day. All I do is spritz it with a mixture of conditioner and water. Sometimes during the week I may add some pure shea butter that I got in bulk from crabapplesoapfactory.com or coconut oil. When it's wash day, I usually wash it with conditioner only. Maybe once every month to 6 weeks, I will use shampoo. It really depends on whether I think her scalp is dirty enough for shampoo. Her hair lathers up pretty well with shampoo so I don't use it that often because I know she doesn't have a lot of buildup of products in her hair.

You say your daughter's hair looks dry but the key is does it FEEL dry. With her hair texture, it's not going to have the same shine/glow that a looser curl pattern will have because of the way that light is being reflected off the hair. If her hair is not crunchy, then you're probably looking for her hair to do something that it's not going to do unless you put a shine product in it. Back when I hadn't found the hairboards, my daughter's hair was crunchy and that's when I got on the 'net and found out about deep conditioning. After I did that on a consistent basis, I haven't experienced that issue. But because of her hair texture AND the color of her hair, her hair looks dry all the time. Initially I thought her hair was getting too much time in the sun, but this year when I was home and she wasn't outside all day playing at camp, I realized that her hair was actually that color. But it's always soft and moisturized so I don't worry anything about it.

Shea butter and coconut oil is all the oil that I use for the both of us.
 
My daughter is 2 and the back half of her head sounds like your daughters texture. If I don't stay on top of it, her hair looks and feels dry! You just need to find the right products to use on her hair that's all.

Have you tried any of the AO conditioners???? These work great as deep conditioners and softens like nobody's business. I also use Giovanni's direct leave in conditioner followed by an oil....any oil but sometimes I mix coconut oil, castor oil, cocoa butter and olive oil. I brush it thru using a Denman and it slips right thru. No ouchies!

Before I rebraid her hair, I spritz her hair with water (sometimes it may have conditioner in it) and apply a small amount of Giovanni direct and brush it thru with the Denman. It stays moisturized all day.

Both their heads are beautiful by the way.
 
kisz4tj said:
Hey GMMP, your lil man is looking adorable.

I think that I may lay off of the shampoo a bit, and do more CW's. Looks like shea butter is the thing to use, I'll also look for that this weekend.

You do don't style your daughters hair in the morning for school? At night I remove her ponytail bo-bos. In the morning I spray and rebrush her hair and put the bo-bos back in and retwist her hair. Is that too much manipulation?

I suppose her hair is growing but I can't really see a difference.

I generally will do everything to her hair at night. If I need to retwist - I do that at night. I don't use much in the way of ponytail holders. I found that the things with the balls - even if they were other shapes, took her hair out at the ROOT. And not a little bit either - there would be 10-15 strands of hair. So now I only use cloth or if I use a cloth-covered holder, it only goes around a couple of times - just to hold it in place. The shea butter will hold her hair down - I'm quite heavy handed. I really don't care if people can feel the butter in her hair - they all comment on how soft it is. Even the white people. They love it.

Even when I re-do her hair at night, I don't brush all the way through her hair. I will finger-comb it to remove the tangles, spray it and pile on the shea butter. She loses less hair than I do on wash day even when I haven't brushed through her hair at all the whole time. The Denman brush is what I use on her hair. I'm quite in love with it.
 
I agree with all the other comments. I too have two girls 9 and 8 with two very different types of hair. I treat and put different things in each ones hair because they are different. I never use heat on their hair nor do I put any kind of chemicals in their hair. I use coconut oil, jojoba oils, and some other natural stuff in their hair. I con-wash and braid their hair every week and leave their hair alone for the week. Just putting a little oil in their hair during the week if needed. They have already learned to sleep in their little satin caps so their hair really doesn't get dried out from sleeping on their cotton pillow cases.

Hope that helps.
 
HI Kisz:

To answer your question. . .yes, early on there were issues with hair comparisons and my middle child feeling a lack because her hair didn't go "down-down" like her older sister's hair. Time healed that and she is satisfied with her hair and even celebrates it. She had locks at one point and as the only Black student in her kindergarten class caught a lot of flack. But they are stronger than we imagine and will increase in their strength if we but only let them live through the challenging experiences. If you ask her about the kind of hair she has she will tell you that she loves her hair and KNOWS it's "cute and pretty". She said to me today, "I don't care if it's long, I don't care if it's short. . .It's still pretty!"

Kids can be "programmed" to believe anything about any part of themselves. I've affirmed the beauty of her hair and she knows it's not a problem to be fixed. I don't fawn over the length and texture of my oldest daughter's hair and speak up when others do in front of my middle child. I don't want to negate the beauty of the oldest's hair. Yet, I don't make a big deal over it especially at the expense of my middle child whose hair texture is so often maligned.

She wears braids and two strand twists more often than any other hairstyle. Frankly though, those are the styles that she prefers AND the ones that work best for her daily lifestyle (ripping and running, playing, getting messy). She's not ready for the daily puff yet.

It'll all work out!
P1

P.S. Just a FEW products I like for my daughter:

Detangler - Daily Doctor - diluted and kicked up with more glycerine, oil, conditioner
Moisture - Whipped Pudding (oyin)
Moisture/Conditioner -Honey Hemp Condition (oyin)
Butter/Sealer -Whipped Shea in Cedar Fig (oyin)
Great Detangler - Silk Rose (asha's) e
 
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Has anyone tried Carols Daughter products for children?? Kisz Im having the same problem with my daughters hair (shes 3 yr old) with the dryness her hair eats grease up like its candy. Yes I use hair grease and it usually works faithfully when its in there. I dont know her specific type but I guess its 4a/b. Its curls when its wet or when I put a leave in conditioner in it but once its dry its well dry, so I usually leave her in braids.
 
Thanks P1 your post has been very encouraging to me.

Sky, I've used CD's hair milk, marguerite's magic, hair honey, and something called kizzy on their hair....oh, and the healthy hair butter.
 
kisz4tj said:
Thanks P1 your post has been very encouraging to me.

Sky, I've used CD's hair milk, marguerite's magic, hair honey, and something called kizzy on their hair....oh, and the healthy hair butter.

Is that part of Carol's Daughter? and if so how did it work?
 
Your girls are beautiful :) . My hair at times can soak up moisture too. What has helped me in times past was either Stay Soft Fro Conditioning Spray ( I love this on natural and relaxed hair.), coconut oil, or jojoba oil. What helps me now tremendously is condition washes (which I know aren't always convenient for young children) I really like both of their hair textures. You are doing a good thing and the right thing as far as helping them appreciate their own uniqueness. Please keep this up for I see too many young girls and women who lack self-esteem. ;) If it is something that is really starting to bother her (your youngest daughter), introduce her (and your oldest) to some books specifically written for black children to help them appreciate their hair. There are quite a few of them. You can find some even in your library, local Wal-mart and Barnes and Nobles (I'd try the library first because it's free :grin:. ) This would allow them to see the uniqueness of their hair and appreciate it. It also help (as you are already doing) to introduce them to various styles and let them be creative through styles and hair accessories. HTH

BTW My absolute favorite CW conditioner is V05 Strawberries and Creme. It moisturizes and detangles nicely. They may both like it because it smells exactly like Lifesavers Strawberries and Creme candy ;) .




kisz4tj said:
I'm dying over how to care for my baby girls hair. My oldest girl has 3 b/c. My youngest daughter has 4b hair (I think). She used to have 3c but it changed somewhere between 2 and 4 yrs old. Her hair is extremely dry. I apply CDSoMM and S-curl EVERY DAY! Every single morning that stuff is dry again....its always soft tho and I love the wave/curl definition when I smooth it into ponytails. It's very thick...that's a good thing but its soooo thick that she has to have at least 6-7 ponytails or else that bottom is too much to twist.

Last week was picture day I wanted my mom to go over it with a hot comb. WELL....she went over and over AND over and that stuff would not budge :lol: Her shrinkage is out of this world. My question is WHAT DO I DO???? Its so much of it. I used to keep her in braids all the time, but I really want to start giving it more attention, especially her ends so that it can grow. Seems like its been the same length forever.

I'm a lil protective about it cuz my oldest has very long hair and she's made comments to Jailyn about how her hair is short....or not long like hers. People look at Teilese like she's the one with the "good" hair. I chastize her, but sometimes I find it hard to do so without killing her esteem because I get very angry. Hair is the last thing I want them to have a rivalry about. My ex's new girlfriend did their hair, and Teilese came home saying *IGNORANT NEW GIRLFRIEND* said Jailyn has kitchen. A few days later while I was styling Jailyn's hair she says "Mommy leave Jailyn's hair out like mine...OH you can't cuz she has kitchen" :angry2:

I want to accentuate her hairs natural beauty.

These are my girls, not so recent pics tho.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/kisz4kelly/detail?.dir=892b&.dnm=7e7c.jpg&.src=ph
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/kisz4kelly/detail?.dir=892b&.dnm=2654.jpg&.src=ph
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/kisz4kelly/detail?.dir=892b&.dnm=2135.jpg&.src=ph

What type are your girls' hair? What do you do or use?
 
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MeccaMedinah said:
I'd recommend that you keep it natural & moist. If you stay away from heat & chemicals she'll probably be able to retain length better. I don't know if you keep it braided, but at her young age I think that this is the best protective style for her. JMHO ;)

I agree wholly. :)
 
Just had to chime in to say your babies hair is GORGEOUS!!! I wouldn't change a thing. It reminded me of my hair when I was a kid. All mom used to do was wash it and put if in 3 or 4 jumbo plats. I would wear it that way until the next wash. I had almost waist length hair back then as a kid. Let me quit...I'm getting mad just thinking about it.

Both your daughters hair is beautiful.
 
Thank you czyfaith77....your post brought tears to my eyes....iono...I guess I'm a lil emotional today :lol: Thanks for you encouragement. You're right....they probably would love the strawberry conditioner. The only thing is that Jailyn's hair has changed since that photo is has less moisture and it doesn't curl like that anymore. I wish I knew why. Getting books would be so cute. I'll see what I can find. They both need to be edumacated :lol: Thanks again :kiss:
czyfaith77 said:
Your girls are beautiful :) . My hair at times can soak up moisture too. What has helped me in times past was either Stay Soft Fro Conditioning Spray ( I love this on natural and relaxed hair.), coconut oil, or jojoba oil. What helps me now tremendously is condition washes (which I know aren't always convenient for young children) I really like both of their hair textures. You are doing a good thing and the right thing as far as helping them appreciate their own uniqueness. Please keep this up for I see too many young girls and women who lack self-esteem. ;) If it is something that is really starting to bother her (your youngest daughter), introduce her (and your oldest) to some books specifically written for black children to help them appreciate their hair. There are quite a few of them. You can find some even in your library, local Wal-mart and Barnes and Nobles (I'd try the library first because it's free :grin:. ) This would allow them to see the uniqueness of their hair and appreciate it. It also help (as you are already doing) to introduce them to various styles and let them be creative through styles and hair accessories. HTH

BTW My absolute favorite CW conditioner is V05 Strawberries and Creme. It moisturizes and detangles nicely. They may both like it because it smells exactly like Lifesavers Strawberries and Creme candy ;) .
 
Thanks Carameldiva....hey pookeylou...thanks to you also. I think I would lose my mind with joy if their hair were to be waist length :)
 
sky_blu said:
Is that part of Carol's Daughter? and if so how did it work?
Yup all of those products are Carol's Daughter. I really like the hair milk and healthy hair butter.
 
:yay: I picked up sta sof fro this afternoon. I can't wait to try it and I got this.
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