Wavy Hair is Harder to Straighten...

Chichi

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Does anyone know why this is so? My stylist told me this during my last touchup and it didn't make sense to me... Then I look in November's Essence and sure enough, it says the same thing. It says that people with wavy hair need to use a super strength relaxer. Why?

Chichi
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I think because its "stronger" textured..Like really deep waves like?! Do u get what i'm saying?
 
I think because its "stronger" textured..Like really deep waves like?! Do u get what i'm saying?
 
Hmm,

I think this is how I ended up with bone straight relaxed hair. I remember a stylist once told me something about my waves being harder to straighten also...as if she had to keep going over it to get rid of that wave. Silly me - didn't realize that it was ok to keep some of that wave instead of getting bone straight hair like I ended up with.

The funny thing is that now that I'm transitioning, those waves fall right out b/c I have so much elasticity. I can pull the curling iron through it once and the wave is gone.

Do stylists ever know what they are talking about?
 
I have a friend and no matter how long she left her relaxer on, she still had curly/wavy hair. It was just highly resistant to relaxing. Luckily, she's transitioning now!
 
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hairlove said:
I have a friend and no matter how long she left her relaxer on, she still had curly/wavy hair. It was just highly resistant to relaxing. Luckily, she's transitioning now!

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Me Toooooooo!
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hairlove said:
Hmm,

I think this is how I ended up with bone straight relaxed hair. I remember a stylist once told me something about my waves being harder to straighten also...as if she had to keep going over it to get rid of that wave. Silly me - didn't realize that it was ok to keep some of that wave instead of getting bone straight hair like I ended up with.


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OMGosh,the same thing happened to me. That relaxer would sit in my hair while she worked and combed to get my hair straight. Then I would end up with bone straight hair. HATE-ED IT!
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Chichi
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Chichi,

When I first began to relax around the age of 12/13, my hair would never be bone straight relaxed b/c there was never a relaxer that was gentle enough to stay on my hair long enough. I always burned really easily. I remember back then having a looser wave for hair when relaxed.

Only, about 10 years after that when they started making sensitive scalp relaxers was I able to "stand" a relaxer being on my head for longer than the application. I'd get the application and then the "smooth." Whether it burned or not, I'd say something if they started to "re-smooth."

I only wish I didn't allow the smoothing at all b/c I wouldn't have this bone straight stringy relaxed hair along with my natural hair.
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I've heard hairdressers say this, too. They didn't say why, though. One said that curly/wavy Caucasian, Asian, and 'mixed' textures are harder to straighten, and that she would use a super relaxer formula on those textures only.
 
Hairlove:

My sister's hair is just like yours. When we were small and my mom would be perming my hair, she would get jealous and stomp and cry and pretty much have a tantrum because she wanted to perm her hair too, lol!!! My mom kept telling her no, because she doens't need it. Well...after a few years my mom finally gave in. Do you know that the relaxer cream kept sliding off her hair? It could not stay on! Her hair is so silky and wavy that it did NOTHING for her. My mom only used to buy me mild relaxer. I think that was only one of the few times my sister wound up relaxing her hair. Today (she's 24) she doesn't even bother. She's got gorgeous waves which she she's despised (even now) most of her life. She wants 4a or 4b hair so she weaves it with hair that looks to be of that texture.
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This explains so much! My new growth is thick and medium textured with tight and loose waves. The crown part of my hair is where the waves are the tightest and I always have a hard time straightening it! Does anyone who has a similar hair type know what products and flat irons would work best on this type of hair? I would love to transition, but I want to know what I am doing before I start.
 
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Chichi,

When I first began to relax around the age of 12/13, my hair would never be bone straight relaxed b/c there was never a relaxer that was gentle enough to stay on my hair long enough. I always burned really easily. I remember back then having a looser wave for hair when relaxed.

Only, about 10 years after that when they started making sensitive scalp relaxers was I able to "stand" a relaxer being on my head for longer than the application. I'd get the application and then the "smooth." Whether it burned or not, I'd say something if they started to "re-smooth."

I only wish I didn't allow the smoothing at all b/c I wouldn't have this bone straight stringy relaxed hair along with my natural hair.
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Hairlove,

This is so interesting. I used to burn like crazy when I got relaxers so what they used to do was base my scalp really, really well (with like a tub of grease
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OR maybe they need to invent a relaxer for wavy hair that won't burn sooo much.

Chichi
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Chichi said:
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hairlove said:
Chichi,

When I first began to relax around the age of 12/13, my hair would never be bone straight relaxed b/c there was never a relaxer that was gentle enough to stay on my hair long enough. I always burned really easily. I remember back then having a looser wave for hair when relaxed.

Only, about 10 years after that when they started making sensitive scalp relaxers was I able to "stand" a relaxer being on my head for longer than the application. I'd get the application and then the "smooth." Whether it burned or not, I'd say something if they started to "re-smooth."

I only wish I didn't allow the smoothing at all b/c I wouldn't have this bone straight stringy relaxed hair along with my natural hair.
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Hairlove,

This is so interesting. I used to burn like crazy when I got relaxers so what they used to do was base my scalp really, really well (with like a tub of grease
grin.gif
). I guess that relaxers where not made for wavy hair
nono.gif
OR maybe they need to invent a relaxer for wavy hair that won't burn sooo much.

Chichi
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Yes, indeedy......wavy hair is a booger to get straight! I was given a regular Optimum which the stylist left in my hair for 15-20 minutes. The entire time I was thinking I would get up from the chair with bone straight Asian looking hair.
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I went home with almost as many waves as before. Soooooooooo.....the hairdresser told me to come back the next day and she reapplied the relaxer all over my head and left in on for 35 minutes! What was I thinking??
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To make a long story short, my hair came out BONE straight initially but I burned so badly...scabs were all over my head!
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I didn't learn my lesson though and continued for 12 more years trying to get my hair bone straight. No matter how much I'd relax, press, set, wrap, whatever, a wave would make an appearance. I've finally given up and transitioned back to my natural hair. I have accepted my waves and just learned to love them
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Chichi said:
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hairlove said:
Chichi,

When I first began to relax around the age of 12/13, my hair would never be bone straight relaxed b/c there was never a relaxer that was gentle enough to stay on my hair long enough. I always burned really easily. I remember back then having a looser wave for hair when relaxed.

Only, about 10 years after that when they started making sensitive scalp relaxers was I able to "stand" a relaxer being on my head for longer than the application. I'd get the application and then the "smooth." Whether it burned or not, I'd say something if they started to "re-smooth."

I only wish I didn't allow the smoothing at all b/c I wouldn't have this bone straight stringy relaxed hair along with my natural hair.
ohwell.gif


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Hairlove,

This is so interesting. I used to burn like crazy when I got relaxers so what they used to do was base my scalp really, really well (with like a tub of grease
grin.gif
). I guess that relaxers where not made for wavy hair
nono.gif
OR maybe they need to invent a relaxer for wavy hair that won't burn sooo much.

Chichi
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Yes, indeedy......wavy hair is a booger to get straight! I was given a regular Optimum which the stylist left in my hair for 15-20 minutes. The entire time I was thinking I would get up from the chair with bone straight Asian looking hair.
nono.gif
I went home with almost as many waves as before. Soooooooooo.....the hairdresser told me to come back the next day and she reapplied the relaxer all over my head and left in on for 35 minutes! What was I thinking??
whyme.gif
To make a long story short, my hair came out BONE straight initially but I burned so badly...scabs were all over my head!
cry3.gif
I didn't learn my lesson though and continued for 12 more years trying to get my hair bone straight. No matter how much I'd relax, press, set, wrap, whatever, a wave would make an appearance. I've finally given up and transitioned back to my natural hair. I have accepted my waves and just learned to love them
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Absolutely the truth! I guess it IS stronger/more resistant...
My hair is mostly 4a, but the parts I call 3c (which is looser and actually a lazy s type and shiny and jet black), that's the hardest part to get straight...especially the root...
 
That could be true. Like I mentioned in my "Oh why did she do it?" thread, my friend left her relaxer on for an hour on her 2b hair before the waves were straightened out.
 
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