The Spirit of Manipulation

This is a bit old..but powerful
Stay with God, even when it doesn't seem fair..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2wSJNpgJ8I&feature=related

LAELA! Were you eavesdropping on my prayers today!? You just don't know... :hug2:

TD Jakes said:
Can I tell you that obeying God will mess up your plans. You had your life all figured out--how it was gon go...Manipulation gets into church when you start giving up stuff to walk with God; and now you're walking with God and didn't get it back. And you're sitting up saying "It looks like I'm worse off now than before I got saved."

TD Jakes said:
Manipulation is borne out of bitterness that lives in the hearts of people who feel that you gave up so much and got back so little...If you can just stay with God even when it doesn't seem fair, even when it seems like your life isn't working out, even when it seems like you're going backwards instead of forward. If you can just stay with God...never let the devil see you sweat...
 
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I don't think she was just listening in on you lol. But me too...between this and the random thoughts thread I'm starting to think ya'll are some nosey ppl listening to me LOL
 
Here's a great link to share with others:

http://www.hissheep.org/deliverance/

Excerpts:
Exposing Satan’s Master Plan

2 Corinthians 2:11 “Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.” The main device that Satan uses against the church is unforgiveness. When you get into unforgiveness it will totally and completely paralyze your spiritual life. It will hinder your gifts from being received by the Lord and stop your prayers from being answered. It will hinder God from forgiving you and hinder your spiritual warfare.

Here is the danger. If a person yields to a seducing spirit and does it long enough, it will first come to distort truth, then pervert truth and destroy it. So today there are gay churches where homosexuals and lesbians go who claim to be Christian and they try to take scripture and prove that their lifestyle is okay before God. What happens is that their conscience becomes seared.
1 Timothy 4:1-2 “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron.” That searing of the conscience is connected to the seducing spirit. When the seducing spirit works against a persons mind, they begin to give into the seduction and lie and their mind becomes confused and they then get to where they justify the lie and the sin. The word conscience means ‘to know with.’ It is the part of the mind or soul that governs the knowledge that we receive in our life. The conscience is our ability to determine between what is right and wrong. This is a battle in the thought life. The word sear means to brand as with a cattle branding iron. Continual sin and disobedience to God brings a hardness in the persons conscience and they get to where they don’t want to determine that something is right or wrong as if there are no absolutes.

They start saying, “whatever religion you are is fine, there is no one way that is right or the only way, it doesn’t matter if your are a Catholic or a Baptist or other. They all lead to God. There is no absolute right or wrong.” These are deceptions and the greatest danger. They are the end result of being deceived by a seducing spirit. The end result of Satan’s Master Plan and deception against you is to cause your conscience to become seared to where you no longer are responding to the calling of the Holy Spirit.

Genesis 6:3a “And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man.” This is the truth. The Holy Spirit will come and convict you if you have done something wrong. You will feel a burden and uneasiness until you make it right. As long as you have this conviction of the spirit it shows that you have some kind of relationship with God. This is the first way that God chastises us and deals with us when we sin. He will let you know that your spirit is not right until you go back to the cross and repent.

You don’t get saved again, but go back to make your relationship right. With a true child of God, when you sin, you will be convicted and will feel miserable in your spirit and you need to be thankful for that. If you ever get to the point where you can sin and not be convicted by it, then sin has hardened your conscience and it has become seared and you are under the control of some form of seducing spirit. Your conscience is like an inner voice that speaks to you when you break God’s laws. Yet so many today can do horrible things and have no conscience or remorse. You have to be careful what you allow into your spirit.
 
Laela you done did it again. I have to pause the first video to say thank you. I'm forcing myself not to get up and run around the room singing praises in Indian war dance fashion :lachen:

I gave up much, got back very little, had to walk away from that giving up everything for the sake of peace. I was (and still am) hunted down to give up the pound of flesh I don't even owe. At one point no one stood with me. Those I thought would have my back, turned against me afraid that if they were associated with me they too would be ostracized, slandered, railed at. Some used the opportunity to let me know they hated me all along, called me hypocrite because they just couldn't emulate my gifts and their little antics against me went unnoticed before I was rendered vulnerable, because I was too busy being genuine. When I stopped to consider it all I wanted to be bitter, I wanted to get back and show them that I could be just as mean, angry, petty and grudgeful as they were to me. But God....He definitely stood by me, refused to let me go.

Now I am assured that God has allowed it. I am even more aware of how much He loves me inspite of me. He is taking me to a higher place. I wish He would get rid of the 'flash backs' but I now realise they can actually be for good when I'm tempted to return to the same old me. I can never get enough reminders of God's goodness especially when it seems you are down to nothing.
 
NOOOOOOOOOOO. I just started the other video :cry: That's my story and sad to say at first I just found the responses from my "fellow laborers" strange, I thought we were all working for our Father, so when insecurities showed up, like a fool I would be the one pulling back and backing down trying to encourage and let them get above me for peace sake. It resulted in more hatred (sorry I can no longer call it anything else) :cry3::cry:

Sorry all, I needed this, lets me know I'm not strange and reminds me again, God sees, knows and is up to something.
 
Awesome testimony, MSee... :yep: you are of a peculiar people. To God be the Glory!!!

1 Peter 2
1 Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,

2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.

4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,

5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
 
They start saying, “whatever religion you are is fine, there is no one way that is right or the only way, it doesn’t matter if your are a Catholic or a Baptist or other. They all lead to God. There is no absolute right or wrong.” These are deceptions and the greatest danger. They are the end result of being deceived by a seducing spirit. The end result of Satan’s Master Plan and deception against you is to cause your conscience to become seared to where you no longer are responding to the calling of the Holy Spirit.

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Was this an oversight or deliberate?

http://www.hissheep.org/catholic/index.html


Since they also stated something against Baptists, I'm looking for an anti-Baptist article as well ... We all have our opinions and preferences and I'm sincerely trying to figure out how best to put this as to not cause offense, but it is wrong to proselytize, if deliberate. Since we all have our various religious preferences, we have to view this freedom as a gift from God - choice. I ask humbly for this to be considered for all those on LHCF, in CF as well as those lurking beyond.
 
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I think we on this LHCF should think about that a minute. I'm sure this is a mistake because in both these religious sects, there is definitely an absolute right and wrong. Just saying.
No, she is absolutely right. All are leaven...all, non-denominational as well. The logic of man rules in these assemblies without His Power. It has happened before and is happening now. Pray for truth, the unvarnished truth, no matter how much it cuts.
 
No, she is absolutely right. All are leaven...all, non-denominational as well. The logic of man rules in these assemblies without His Power. It has happened before and is happening now. Pray for truth, the unvarnished truth, no matter how much it cuts.

I'm not sure I catch your meaning because it seems that one is focusing on the color of the building rather than the building (Body of Christ) itself. I wouldn't ever call the church, whichever denomination, as leaven. Maybe it's my heritage and leaven has a very deep meaning (extreme bad, evil, turning from God etc....images from Passover) . The church members have cultures and in those cultures, their observance of worship of God also has "cultures." You call that leaven? Please explain.
 
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I'm not sure I catch your meaning because it seems that one is focusing on the color of the building rather than the building (Body of Christ) itself. I wouldn't ever call the church, whichever denomination, as leaven. Maybe it's my heritage and leaven has a very deep meaning (extreme bad, evil, turning from God etc....images from Passover) . The church members have cultures and in those cultures, their observance of worship of God also has "cultures." You call that leaven? Please explain.
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Turn to Him for understanding, not me.
 
I am at work and I can't see the link.

ETA: I took down my post becaue Laela and I spoke about it, and I really don't need anyone to address my questions. When I get home I will review the links.

I already agreed the Jakes links were awesome! So I will stick with that the rest seems unneccessary now.
 
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Kimbb,

I'd post the articles for you, but they're very long.. it's 2-fold and part of many links on that site:
http://www.hissheep.org/deliverance/satans_master_plan.html
http://www.hissheep.org/deliverance/satans_master_plan2.html

I don't put information here without links, so consider the source always...I encourage you to read it all for yourself, to come to your own judgment/conclusion.

The OP with the TD Jakes messages I found to be encouraging and I chose to share them. Sometimes we can get so focused on the messenger (the types of preachers), we miss the entire message. And not all messages are a Word for everyone.
 
YW, Sis MSee!

:bighug:

I'm glad those vids were as encouraging to you as they were to me...
 
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