The Official Mane 'N Tail Users Club

[MonaLisa]

Yes I did mean MNT, sorry, I will check out the links.

What is the difference between the two proteins?

Hydrolyzed Protein is a refined vegatable protein.

Wheat Protein is derived from wheat.

 

[sassyhair]

Hydrolyzed Protein is a refined vegatable protein.

Wheat Protein is derived from wheat.

Is one stronger than the other?

Another question:

Have any of you ladies after you stopped using MNT for a period of time noticed you hair start to loss the thickness gained from the products?

 

[SouthernGirl]

Oh I get it now...

Thanks MonaLisa and SG.

No problem Girlie

 

[SouthernGirl]

When my hair is wet it feels sorta mushy? Very fragile and weak. I think it is from overconditioning.

Edited to ask:

I posted this ? earlier noone answered it yet.

Does the deep moisturizing line of MNT offer the same amount of strength benefits as the original line?

Hey Sassy - didn't mean to over look you. I don't use the Deep Moisturizing line and I never have so I can't speak to the benefits. I haven't read the entire post yet but I'm sure you've gotten an answer by now!

SG

 

[SouthernGirl]

Is one stronger than the other?

Another question:

Have any of you ladies after you stopped using MNT for a period of time noticed you hair start to loss the thickness gained from the products?

Mona - thanks for answering the protein question!!

Sassy, Not sure which protein is "stronger" between the two formulas. You can give Straight Arrow a call and ask and I'm sure they'll be able to answer this for you and give you more info about the differences. Go to www.manentail.com.

As for changes in thickness, it's been a while since I've used anything else (consistently) other than MNT. I can tell you though that when I do, I can tell the difference after just a few shampoos with other lines.

Having said that, when I mentioned earlier that I like alternating with CON, I sometimes like that change temporarily. It's sort of like a clarifying effect - or similar to how your hair responds to a new shampoo after using another one forever. Your hair generally feels great after the first couple uses, but then sometimes seems to lose it's impact over time as well.

There are times when it's nice to use another shampoo every blue moon to "clarify," but I'll never switch from the MNT line altogether

SG

 

[MonaLisa]

I just wanted to throw a random MNT hair moment in....

I love this

Smells really good....gives hair a nice oil free sheen. I don't use sprays out of the can since I found this.

I want to try out the strengthener now...my cousin keeps talking about it.

 

[MonaLisa]

Mona - thanks for answering the protein question!!

Sassy, Not sure which protein is "stronger" between the two formulas. You can give Straight Arrow a call and ask and I'm sure they'll be able to answer this for you and give you more info about the differences. Go to www.manentail.com.

No problem chica....I did the best I could ....

 

[SouthernGirl]

I just wanted to throw a random MNT hair moment in....

I love this

Smells really good....gives hair a nice oil free sheen. I don't use sprays out of the can since I found this.

I want to try out the strengthener now...my cousin keeps talking about it.

Ooh wee!!!! I hadn't heard of this one - something new to try!!!! Thanks girlie!!

 

[sassyhair]

Thanks for answering my questions you MNT ladies are very helpful!

 

[pet]

OHHH...I get it now...thanks Mona, SG, and Sassy!

 

[Needmyhairtogrow]

I need for you ladies to break something down for me about this horse product. Now my understanding is that The Original MTG (Mane-Tail-Groom) is different from The Original MNT(Mane -N- Tail), what is the difference because I believe both are used on horses to correct hair? Here is a website below on both websites.
www.manentail.com
www.shapeley.com

Feedback is appreciative thanks.
Hey Southern Girl hope everything is well?

 

[miracle]

I need for you ladies to break something down for me about this horse product. Now my understanding is that The Original MTG (Mane-Tail-Groom) is different from The Original MNT(Mane -N- Tail), what is the difference because I believe both are used on horses to correct hair? Here is a website below on both websites.
www.manentail.com
www.shapeley.com

Feedback is appreciative thanks.
Hey Southern Girl hope everything is well?

Straight Arrow's Mane N' Tail is a line of equine/human hair products that include shampoo, conditioner, strengthener, carrot oil, etc. Shapley's MTG is a liquid/oil sulfur solution that is used on the scalp to promote growth.

 

[Needmyhairtogrow]

Straight Arrow's Mane N' Tail is a line of equine/human hair products that include shampoo, conditioner, strengthener, carrot oil, etc. Shapley's MTG is a liquid/oil sulfur solution that is used on the scalp to promote growth.

Thanks Miracle for this information have you used the Shapley's MTG product? If so has it worked for you?

 

[SouthernGirl]

Straight Arrow's Mane N' Tail is a line of equine/human hair products that include shampoo, conditioner, strengthener, carrot oil, etc. Shapley's MTG is a liquid/oil sulfur solution that is used on the scalp to promote growth.

Thanks Miracle

Perfect explanation.

As for usage, I've never tried MTG but it seems as though many are having success with the product based on the threads I've read through. If you are thinking about trying it, although I'm not an advocate since I have not personally used it, it doesn't seem like it would interfere are all with a regimen that includes MNT shampoos and conditioners. If the MTG goes on the scalp, then you should be able to wash/cond with MNT as usual. Hope that makes sense - I know it wasn't your question.

SG

 

[Needmyhairtogrow]

I sent a concerning email to the president and she replied that she's had many humans inquire about using the products on themselves and had a lot of success stories. Since it's not FDA approved she could not give me a go ahead but says others has had success in using it on themselves. Also she could only recommend usage for horses and not humans. It's at my own risk to use this product it's still up for debate.

SG I am still using the HF37 for my vitamins and it seems like a super growth about 2 inches a month now it's slowed down to 2 inches every two months did this happen to you and did you take them consistantly?

 

[miracle]

Thanks Miracle for this information have you used the Shapley's MTG product? If so has it worked for you?

I've never used Shapley's MTG, but a lot of ladies on the board are using it with success. I think a few people are using it in combination with the MNT shampoo & conditioner.

 

[SouthernGirl]

I sent a concerning email to the president and she replied that she's had many humans inquire about using the products on themselves and had a lot of success stories. Since it's not FDA approved she could not give me a go ahead but says others has had success in using it on themselves. Also she could only recommend usage for horses and not humans. It's at my own risk to use this product it's still up for debate.

SG I am still using the HF37 for my vitamins and it seems like a super growth about 2 inches a month now it's slowed down to 2 inches every two months did this happen to you and did you take them consistantly?

Hey Girl,

Glad you got some great growth with that stuff! Two inches is awesome. I've always had really good growth when I'm using religiously - (3) Step Twos AM on empty stomach, (2) Step Ones on w/lunch or dinner on full stomach, then (3) more Step Twos at bedtime.

This year, I've only been taking about (3) Step Twos and (2) Step Ones per day because I wasn't concerned about my hair getting longer. Now that I want a few more inches, I'm getting back on track.

I say all that to say that if you are taking them correctly, you should continue to see the same amount of growth. I don't think you ever plateau. Also, if you are using Surge still or other stuff it might accellerate the growth while taking the vits. If you stop, the growth slows down a tad.

Make sense? Hope it helps!

SG

 

[isawstars]

So i was wondering...

do you MNT ladies have an additional protein treatment?

Or is MNT all the protein you need...?

I'm just starting to use MNT's deep moisturizing conditioner on a regular basis... Before I'd use KC and alternate with mizani's protein shampoo & conditioner... should i continue to use those mizani products while using MNT? or would that be too much protein?

 

[Needmyhairtogrow]

Thanks SG it's been a long time. I'm trying to stay regular but sometimes I miss the mornings (3) and i usually take those about 5:00 p.m. when I leave for work. You and your hair has been an inspiration so thank you for that. Also I was trying to go back to what worked for me in the past, since I've been slacking I have noticed a decline in my growth with missing the vitamins, not oiling consistantly, but I have been consistantly surging. I've added a softer shampoo following the Mane N Tail's shampoo because of how hard my hair was feeling after the shampoo. Thanks again and hope everything is going well for you. I'm also considering adding the MTG to my regimine.

 

[SouthernGirl]

So i was wondering...

do you MNT ladies have an additional protein treatment?

Or is MNT all the protein you need...?

I'm just starting to use MNT's deep moisturizing conditioner on a regular basis... Before I'd use KC and alternate with mizani's protein shampoo & conditioner... should i continue to use those mizani products while using MNT? or would that be too much protein?

I had not had a protein treatment in several months using MNT. I did, however, do an Apoghee treatment a week ago because I had colored, then I knew I needed to relax in a couple weeks so I wanted to have a protein boost. Other than that, I haven't felt like my hair really needed it. It's probably a good thing to do anyway though

SG

 

[SouthernGirl]

Thanks SG it's been a long time. I'm trying to stay regular but sometimes I miss the mornings (3) and i usually take those about 5:00 p.m. when I leave for work. You and your hair has been an inspiration so thank you for that. Also I was trying to go back to what worked for me in the past, since I've been slacking I have noticed a decline in my growth with missing the vitamins, not oiling consistantly, but I have been consistantly surging. I've added a softer shampoo following the Mane N Tail's shampoo because of how hard my hair was feeling after the shampoo. Thanks again and hope everything is going well for you. I'm also considering adding the MTG to my regimine.

You are SOOOOO Sweet

I'm glad I can be an inspiration to you. You'll fine-tune your regimen in no time flat. Just keep trying to incorporate MNT stuff, and it'll work.

Let me know if you need any help!!!

SG

 

[senimoni]

:-( I thought I was doing something at the store when I bought some MNT...but it appears I got the wrong one. The Walmart here doesn't even sell the original conditioner, only moisturizing. Guess I'll use it anyway as CO wash.

 

[pet]

Well, Guys....I washed and conditioned with MNT on Thursday, and I liked it! The same amount of hair came out however, but I am hoping over time, my hair will get stronger, and barely any will come out. See, my hair is tough to untangle, and no matter what I do, a little ball always comes out when I wash it. However, once my hair is presssed, none comes out. So I'm really trying to find something that will make my hair strong enough, so that when I do wash it, and it comes back natural, there's not a lot of hair in the comb. So, I'm going to stick with this for a while.

 

[Jewell]

So i was wondering...

do you MNT ladies have an additional protein treatment?

Or is MNT all the protein you need...?

I'm just starting to use MNT's deep moisturizing conditioner on a regular basis... Before I'd use KC and alternate with mizani's protein shampoo & conditioner... should i continue to use those mizani products while using MNT? or would that be too much protein?

For me, MNT is all the protein I need, although I do have Motions Silk Protein Conditioner, which is more like 1/4 protein and 3/4 moisture.

 

[SouthernGirl]

Senimoni,

I'm surprised you couldn't find the original, but don't give up looking. Maybe they just ran out? I'm sure you'll find it

Pet,

Are you using a wide-toothed comb to detangle? I've never had this much hair loss, so I'm not sure what's making it happen. Just comb very gently (I don't comb out at all in the shower) and hopefully it will stop. If I've ever used any other type of shampoo, shedding seems to stop immediately with MNT. Just give a little time and hopefully it will strengthen your hair.

HTH,
SG

 

[mrslee]

I have been using the MNT conditioner and mixing it with Jojoba or Safflower oil. I love the way my hair feels after I apply it. At wash time I notice I dont have many short hair breakage. Hardly any hair comes off the comb now.
I had been doing CO washes for about two weeks, I flat ironed my hair for the first time on Sat. and I couldnt believe how much my hair had grown!
Plus I have about an inch of NG already! :yikes: I should be well at my goal by Dec. Just be patient and consistency is the key.

 

[pet]

SG, let me try to explain to you how my hair is. The front half of my hair is soft, and combs out immediately- Probably 3C. As you go farther back it becomes 4B. Then on top of that, my hair always retangles itself after it is untangled...so weird. Now if I were to keep my hair natural without pressing it, after like day 3, all my hair is soft like the front. I try to use a pick to untangle my hair, but then when it's time to use a real comb, it really isn't untangled at all...so I don't use such a wide tooth comb to start out with anymore. And my hair always seems to come out from one place all of the time....the place where I can never get it untangled to save my life. My mom is always commenting on how weird my hair is.

I'll try a wide tooth comb again, the next time I wash my hair. But the good thing is, is that my hair doesn't come out at all after it is pressed. So I know the reason why my hair comes out to begin with, it's because I just can't get it untangled properly, and I start to get frustrated. I'm hoping that MNT will strengthen it, so when I get mad..lol, and start to pull...my hair will stay attached to my head...lol

 

[Taya]

I don't know where I'm at on this thread cause I've been reading it for a while now I think i stopped on page 13 #130. so anyway can I join? Please.
I have used MNT on and off and I really like it. I used it for a while before my last baby in 03 the original by straight arrow. MNT shampoo, QP creme conditioner and was rinsing conditioner out til this lady told me it's better leave in,but don't remember if my growth was before or after I started leaving it in. Than I stop using it ,not cause of any problems just cause I'm a very bad product junkie,so I started something else that sounded good. I USE THE CONDITIONER SOME NOW,just not every time I wash.but this is how I like to use it now: I have to put the conditioner on while hair is still a little wet( just squeeze water from hair) condition roots to ends and comb thru with the lil round shampoo brush , then I pour some Surges MOTION LOTION # 9 in hand and rub all over hair and ends and use shampoo brush to comb thru. (I wash my hair in the shower so all my hair is going to back and thats how it is when I put everything on).I have sat under the dryer til dry and my hair felt super soft . before I tried the #9 w/ the conditioner I'd use the conditioner alone and my hair would be kinda hard.
OOOOOH I APOLOGIZE FOR THE LONG THREAD AND I'M NOT SURE IF I WAS SUPPOSE TO WAIT TO GET THE OKAY TO JOIN,UM I GOT ALITTLE TOOO EXCITED.

 

[kombov_dymond]

I scanned through the thread so I may have missed the answer to my question. Is there anything wrong with using the Deep Moisturizing Formula as a leave in? I am aware that it has wheat protein in it.

 

[SouthernGirl]

I have been using the MNT conditioner and mixing it with Jojoba or Safflower oil. I love the way my hair feels after I apply it. At wash time I notice I dont have many short hair breakage. Hardly any hair comes off the comb now.
I had been doing CO washes for about two weeks, I flat ironed my hair for the first time on Sat. and I couldnt believe how much my hair had grown!
Plus I have about an inch of NG already! :yikes: I should be well at my goal by Dec. Just be patient and consistency is the key.

Yay Mrslee

That's awesome chica!!!!

I can't wait for you to reach your goal. I had forgotten about mixing a little oil into the conditioner but since Mona reminded me, my hair's loving it again

SG