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The Famous Dominican Blowout.........
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it's basically:
1)wash & condition or deep condition if necessary
2)your hair is set under the blow dryer on rollers (i'm set with infusium leave-in or aveda)
3a)then your hair is blown straight with a handheld dryer &
brush and worn straight or wrapped around your head with pins
3b) or like i do..take out the rollers and have them wrap my hair around my head with big pins to eliminate the additional handheld dryer heat and it has more body via this method,
3c)or..like some folks, take out the rollers, have them blow out only the roots with the handheld dryer and then wrap the hair around your head with big pins. this method is kewl for when you need a touch up. when wrapping it's called a dooby.
1)wash & condition or deep condition if necessary
2)your hair is set under the blow dryer on rollers (i'm set with infusium leave-in or aveda)
3a)then your hair is blown straight with a handheld dryer &
brush and worn straight or wrapped around your head with pins
3b) or like i do..take out the rollers and have them wrap my hair around my head with big pins to eliminate the additional handheld dryer heat and it has more body via this method,
3c)or..like some folks, take out the rollers, have them blow out only the roots with the handheld dryer and then wrap the hair around your head with big pins. this method is kewl for when you need a touch up. when wrapping it's called a dooby.
oh, it doesn't matter where your location is, any stylist can at least rollerset your hair & learn to wrap it around your head with pins, or you can do it yourself. the key to the blowout is the handheld dryer and using the brush to create the bump or flip for wonderful body, shine and fullness.
MoezThunder
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thanks elaine & ebony for the help
moneychaser
Well-Known Member
I just saw a post were the said there is an article in the Feb. issue of Black Hairstyles and Trends, describing how to give your hair a "blow job".
sassygirl125
Professional PJ
I've never had it done but my cousin has. She describes it as a roller set and then a regular blow dry with a big round brush. I think the "secret" is:
1. The products used. Her hair is never greasy and the strands are light and separated.
and
2. The handling of the scorching hot dryer. She describes the heat as "ungodly hot".
She peeked at the blow dryer and it was 2800 watts!
I didn't know they got hotter than 1875... In the hands of a regular person it would probably burn the hair off the head. I'd be afraid to try it at home.
1. The products used. Her hair is never greasy and the strands are light and separated.
and
2. The handling of the scorching hot dryer. She describes the heat as "ungodly hot".
ccd
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Ebony said:
3c)or..like some folks, take out the rollers, have them blow out only the roots with the handheld dryer and then wrap the hair around your head with big pins. this method is kewl for when you need a touch up. when wrapping it's called a dooby.
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That's how I get it done when I go to the salon......and when I do it at home. I find blowing out the roots helps when I eventually wrap my hair...when I have new growth it's hard to comb thru it....
the hand dryers are hot but you put the heat on your hair for a couple of seconds then the brush gets hot so you can continue"stying" only with the brush...I've been going to dominican styists for 10 yrs now (wow! I just realized that) and I watch them carefully because I always want to know what works with my hair.
Ebony said:
3c)or..like some folks, take out the rollers, have them blow out only the roots with the handheld dryer and then wrap the hair around your head with big pins. this method is kewl for when you need a touch up. when wrapping it's called a dooby.
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That's how I get it done when I go to the salon......and when I do it at home. I find blowing out the roots helps when I eventually wrap my hair...when I have new growth it's hard to comb thru it....
the hand dryers are hot but you put the heat on your hair for a couple of seconds then the brush gets hot so you can continue"stying" only with the brush...I've been going to dominican styists for 10 yrs now (wow! I just realized that) and I watch them carefully because I always want to know what works with my hair.
interestingly enough, although the blowdryer is hot, you shouldn't feel the heat. i never do. i've also experienced places where the handheld dryer is so hot, your hair smells 'burned' when it's finished. your hair should never smell like that. the dryer is entirely too hot. mind you, there are many african american stylists and caucasian stylists who do the same thing...wash your hair and blow it out with amazing body just the same, but they charge entirely too much which is another reason dominican salons are so popular. they are affordable enuff to get your hair done twice a week if you wanted!
MoezThunder: Once a week is safe for a blowout. Although, u can minimize the heat experience by having them blowout your hair while wet (which i do when i'm in a rush) or after your rollerset dries having them wrap it instead of adding heat again by blowing it straight. I would go once a week like i used to if there was a place within 10-15 minutes of me, but then becuz of my workouts i'd sweat it out anywayz.
ccd: i've been going to dominican salons since 1996...eight years now and right behind you!!!
MoezThunder: Once a week is safe for a blowout. Although, u can minimize the heat experience by having them blowout your hair while wet (which i do when i'm in a rush) or after your rollerset dries having them wrap it instead of adding heat again by blowing it straight. I would go once a week like i used to if there was a place within 10-15 minutes of me, but then becuz of my workouts i'd sweat it out anywayz.
ccd: i've been going to dominican salons since 1996...eight years now and right behind you!!!
sassygirl125
Professional PJ
I'll have to tell my cousin about that. She has it done every week or two. She says it burns so bad that she has to take breaks. Her hair actually smokes during the process. And when they're done her hair smells burnt.
But she feels the "Pantene look" she has afterwards is worth the trouble.
Edited to add:
My cousin has natural type 3 hair. So to straighten her hair she gets all of it blown--from roots to tips. Maybe that explains the burning and the smoke...
But she feels the "Pantene look" she has afterwards is worth the trouble.
Edited to add:
My cousin has natural type 3 hair. So to straighten her hair she gets all of it blown--from roots to tips. Maybe that explains the burning and the smoke...
ccd
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Ebony said:
interestingly enough, although the blowdryer is hot, you shouldn't feel the heat. i never do. i've also experienced places where the handheld dryer is so hot, your hair smells 'burned' when it's finished. your hair should never smell like that. the dryer is entirely too hot. mind you, there are many african american stylists and caucasian stylists who do the same thing...wash your hair and blow it out with amazing body just the same, but they charge entirely too much which is another reason dominican salons are so popular. they are affordable enuff to get your hair done twice a week if you wanted!
YEAH I USUALLY DON'T FEEL THE HEAT, UNLESS THEY ARE AT THE HAIRLINE WHERE IT'S SHORTER.....
ccd: i've been going to dominican salons since 1996...eight years now and right behind you!!!
[/ QUOTE ] I LIKE THE WAY THEY DO MY HAIR...TO ME IT'S GOTTEN SO HEALTHY FROM THE CONDITIONING TREATMENTS AND THE ROLLER SETS ......
Ebony said:
interestingly enough, although the blowdryer is hot, you shouldn't feel the heat. i never do. i've also experienced places where the handheld dryer is so hot, your hair smells 'burned' when it's finished. your hair should never smell like that. the dryer is entirely too hot. mind you, there are many african american stylists and caucasian stylists who do the same thing...wash your hair and blow it out with amazing body just the same, but they charge entirely too much which is another reason dominican salons are so popular. they are affordable enuff to get your hair done twice a week if you wanted!
YEAH I USUALLY DON'T FEEL THE HEAT, UNLESS THEY ARE AT THE HAIRLINE WHERE IT'S SHORTER.....
ccd: i've been going to dominican salons since 1996...eight years now and right behind you!!!
[/ QUOTE ] I LIKE THE WAY THEY DO MY HAIR...TO ME IT'S GOTTEN SO HEALTHY FROM THE CONDITIONING TREATMENTS AND THE ROLLER SETS ......
MoezThunder
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2800 watts.......what tha
U gotta be crazy! Talk about deep fried!
firecracker
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Cdd, your hair/album is beautiful. Did you do the spriral's yourself? I love Dominican rollersets only. They do use lots of heat when blowing out. I did not have a good perm experience with them, nor was I satisfied with their quality of products (but for the prices I brought my own products)LOL. I tried several locations in downtown Bklyn & Bronx. I can say they get you in and out within 3 hours.
I can't wait til I get to NYC next month for a cheap rollerset!
ccd
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latia said:
Cdd, your hair/album is beautiful. Did you do the spriral's yourself? I love Dominican rollersets only. They do use lots of heat when blowing out. I did not have a good perm experience with them, nor was I satisfied with their quality of products (but for the prices I brought my own products)LOL. I tried several locations in downtown Bklyn & Bronx. I can say they get you in and out within 3 hours.
I can't wait til I get to NYC next month for a cheap rollerset!
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THANKS SOOO much! yes I did the spirals myself after seeing someone here ....It was a long process but I'd do it again.... When you are in NYC and if you're interested you could try Sunshine Salon on 105th and Columbus they are really nice and I believe they use quality products.. Thanks again
latia said:
Cdd, your hair/album is beautiful. Did you do the spriral's yourself? I love Dominican rollersets only. They do use lots of heat when blowing out. I did not have a good perm experience with them, nor was I satisfied with their quality of products (but for the prices I brought my own products)LOL. I tried several locations in downtown Bklyn & Bronx. I can say they get you in and out within 3 hours.
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THANKS SOOO much! yes I did the spirals myself after seeing someone here ....It was a long process but I'd do it again.... When you are in NYC and if you're interested you could try Sunshine Salon on 105th and Columbus they are really nice and I believe they use quality products.. Thanks again
ccd
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http://www.longhaircareforum.com/s...1&bodyprev=
wow I hope that works if not do a search " spiral rods"
wow I hope that works if not do a search " spiral rods"
KinksnCurlz
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CCD, i met this lady and she told me that she too goes to Sunshine. She said she loves them. Which stylist does your hair?
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Stylepink
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I'd be too scared to have that much wattage on my hair
Tracy
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I personally think that people (no one on this thread, I'm speaking generally) over-exxaggerate the heat used in the process that is used at Dominican salons.
Just like other methods there are people who will perform the service incorrectly (your hair really shouldn't smoke, neither should the blowdryer) but generally when it's done right, its no more damaging than marcel curling irons and the blowdrying that is done in black salons.
If some of you knew how many "degrees" those stoves got the appliances that go in your hair in AA salons, you might consider a 2800 watt blowdrier a cool breeze.
The proof in the Dominican method is in the results. Walk into any Domninican salon in any city and you are sure to find over 50% of the heads well past shoulder length. I'd say about a third of the people in my salon on any given visit have hair between bra strap and waist length. It's the rule, not the exception, which was my experience in AA salons. Seeing a woman in an AA salon (when I went to them) with past shoulder length hair was like seeing the Messiah. In Dom. salons no one bats an eyelash. It's commonplace.
The Dominican method is not for everyone, but it does produce longer healthier hair in women who have trouble achieving that. Since the appearance of Dom. salons in the black community in the past few years in NYC, there is more real, long hair in that city than ever before. IMHO that is due SOLELY to the introduction of Dominican stylists and their techiniques into the salon culture in NYC.
Just like other methods there are people who will perform the service incorrectly (your hair really shouldn't smoke, neither should the blowdryer) but generally when it's done right, its no more damaging than marcel curling irons and the blowdrying that is done in black salons.
If some of you knew how many "degrees" those stoves got the appliances that go in your hair in AA salons, you might consider a 2800 watt blowdrier a cool breeze.
The proof in the Dominican method is in the results. Walk into any Domninican salon in any city and you are sure to find over 50% of the heads well past shoulder length. I'd say about a third of the people in my salon on any given visit have hair between bra strap and waist length. It's the rule, not the exception, which was my experience in AA salons. Seeing a woman in an AA salon (when I went to them) with past shoulder length hair was like seeing the Messiah. In Dom. salons no one bats an eyelash. It's commonplace.
The Dominican method is not for everyone, but it does produce longer healthier hair in women who have trouble achieving that. Since the appearance of Dom. salons in the black community in the past few years in NYC, there is more real, long hair in that city than ever before. IMHO that is due SOLELY to the introduction of Dominican stylists and their techiniques into the salon culture in NYC.
moneychaser
Well-Known Member
I read in Hair Trends magazine that the smoke isn't from your being burnt but from moisture escaping from your hair
KinksnCurlz
New Member
I'm jumping on your back here Tracy b/c i definately agree with you b/c I've seen so many heads of long healthy hair and all my girls say they go to the dominicans.
sassygirl125
Professional PJ
My cousins hair is mid-back length and in great shape. But does her hair smoking and smelling burnt mean her stylist is doing something wrong? She says everyone's hair smokes in that salon. Everyone thinks it's normal and as far as she knows no one is losing their hair.
Maybe it's mystery blue leave-in that is smoking and not really the client's hair...
Maybe it's mystery blue leave-in that is smoking and not really the client's hair...
Tracy
New Member
Sometimes certain products can creae the smoke. Sometimes the dryer has just been on for a loooong time and is tired.
If she hasn't had any trouble I would say the degree of smoking she expereiences is necessarily a problem. The burned SMELL would bother me and I might look arounda bit - but that's me. If it was a stylist I'd been frequenting for some time and my hair was healthy I wouldn't worry about it.
Because I go to the salon weekly for the most part, and so don't want that much heat on my hair that often, I routinely allow them to only blow my roots. I only get my hair fully straightened on speciial occasions. I find I have more body and my blowout lasts longer that way. Most of the women I see weekly with longer hair than mine have their whole head blown tho. For me it's just a personal preference and precaution.
The bottom line tho, I think your cousin is fine. If she wasn't, her hair would let her know.
If she hasn't had any trouble I would say the degree of smoking she expereiences is necessarily a problem. The burned SMELL would bother me and I might look arounda bit - but that's me. If it was a stylist I'd been frequenting for some time and my hair was healthy I wouldn't worry about it.
Because I go to the salon weekly for the most part, and so don't want that much heat on my hair that often, I routinely allow them to only blow my roots. I only get my hair fully straightened on speciial occasions. I find I have more body and my blowout lasts longer that way. Most of the women I see weekly with longer hair than mine have their whole head blown tho. For me it's just a personal preference and precaution.
The bottom line tho, I think your cousin is fine. If she wasn't, her hair would let her know.
aqualung
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Tracy said:
The proof in the Dominican method is in the results. Walk into any Domninican salon in any city and you are sure to find over 50% of the heads well past shoulder length. I'd say about a third of the people in my salon on any given visit have hair between bra strap and waist length. It's the rule, not the exception, which was my experience in AA salons. Seeing a woman in an AA salon (when I went to them) with past shoulder length hair was like seeing the Messiah. In Dom. salons no one bats an eyelash. It's commonplace.
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My observations in Boston have confirmed this trend of longer heads of hair patronizing Dominican salons. I think this trend is due to two things:
1. the healthier rollersetting practices
2. the hair types of the clients.
Regarding #2, when I checked out Dominican salons in Boston, a lot of the patrons and stylists had less curly hair textures -- types 2 and 3. They were Hispanic and Caribbean and Indian and Egyptian. They might require less curl relaxation. They might experience less demarcation breakage close to touchup time due to a less dramatic difference in texture between the relaxed hair and the new growth. Their hair might more readily show length because it's less tightly coiled.
My longest haired girlfriend does her own relaxer touchups primarily, and goes to Dominicans when she has the extra cash. She's of Trinidadian descent with 3a/b course hair.
Do you notice predominantly type 2 and 3 clients at NYC Dominican salons?
My survey was brief and limited to Boston salons.
Oh yeah: it's also been my experience that the hand held blowdryers at the Dominican salon were SO VERY MUCH hotter than the ones at AA salons that rollerset and then blow out.
The extra heat irritated my scalp, but the Dominican salon's blowout stayed straighter for longer than the AA salon's blowout.
Tracy said:
The proof in the Dominican method is in the results. Walk into any Domninican salon in any city and you are sure to find over 50% of the heads well past shoulder length. I'd say about a third of the people in my salon on any given visit have hair between bra strap and waist length. It's the rule, not the exception, which was my experience in AA salons. Seeing a woman in an AA salon (when I went to them) with past shoulder length hair was like seeing the Messiah. In Dom. salons no one bats an eyelash. It's commonplace.
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My observations in Boston have confirmed this trend of longer heads of hair patronizing Dominican salons. I think this trend is due to two things:
1. the healthier rollersetting practices
2. the hair types of the clients.
Regarding #2, when I checked out Dominican salons in Boston, a lot of the patrons and stylists had less curly hair textures -- types 2 and 3. They were Hispanic and Caribbean and Indian and Egyptian. They might require less curl relaxation. They might experience less demarcation breakage close to touchup time due to a less dramatic difference in texture between the relaxed hair and the new growth. Their hair might more readily show length because it's less tightly coiled.
My longest haired girlfriend does her own relaxer touchups primarily, and goes to Dominicans when she has the extra cash. She's of Trinidadian descent with 3a/b course hair.
Do you notice predominantly type 2 and 3 clients at NYC Dominican salons?
Oh yeah: it's also been my experience that the hand held blowdryers at the Dominican salon were SO VERY MUCH hotter than the ones at AA salons that rollerset and then blow out.
sassygirl125
Professional PJ
Thanks Tracy.
I didn't want to scare her for no reason. I actually called her at work this morning trying to sound casual as asked about her salon experience. The whole time I'm thinking:
YOUR HAIR IS BURNING! YOU HAVE TO FIND A DIFFERENT STYLIST NOW !
PrettyBrownEyes
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Tracy said:
I personally think that people (no one on this thread, I'm speaking generally) over-exxaggerate the heat used in the process that is used at Dominican salons.
Just like other methods there are people who will perform the service incorrectly (your hair really shouldn't smoke, neither should the blowdryer) but generally when it's done right, its no more damaging than marcel curling irons and the blowdrying that is done in black salons.
If some of you knew how many "degrees" those stoves got the appliances that go in your hair in AA salons, you might consider a 2800 watt blowdrier a cool breeze.
The proof in the Dominican method is in the results. Walk into any Domninican salon in any city and you are sure to find over 50% of the heads well past shoulder length. I'd say about a third of the people in my salon on any given visit have hair between bra strap and waist length. It's the rule, not the exception, which was my experience in AA salons. Seeing a woman in an AA salon (when I went to them) with past shoulder length hair was like seeing the Messiah. In Dom. salons no one bats an eyelash. It's commonplace.
The Dominican method is not for everyone, but it does produce longer healthier hair in women who have trouble achieving that. Since the appearance of Dom. salons in the black community in the past few years in NYC, there is more real, long hair in that city than ever before. IMHO that is due SOLELY to the introduction of Dominican stylists and their techiniques into the salon culture in NYC.
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Excellent points Tracy, especially about the temperature of the stoves in the AA salons.
Tracy said:
I personally think that people (no one on this thread, I'm speaking generally) over-exxaggerate the heat used in the process that is used at Dominican salons.
Just like other methods there are people who will perform the service incorrectly (your hair really shouldn't smoke, neither should the blowdryer) but generally when it's done right, its no more damaging than marcel curling irons and the blowdrying that is done in black salons.
If some of you knew how many "degrees" those stoves got the appliances that go in your hair in AA salons, you might consider a 2800 watt blowdrier a cool breeze.
The proof in the Dominican method is in the results. Walk into any Domninican salon in any city and you are sure to find over 50% of the heads well past shoulder length. I'd say about a third of the people in my salon on any given visit have hair between bra strap and waist length. It's the rule, not the exception, which was my experience in AA salons. Seeing a woman in an AA salon (when I went to them) with past shoulder length hair was like seeing the Messiah. In Dom. salons no one bats an eyelash. It's commonplace.
The Dominican method is not for everyone, but it does produce longer healthier hair in women who have trouble achieving that. Since the appearance of Dom. salons in the black community in the past few years in NYC, there is more real, long hair in that city than ever before. IMHO that is due SOLELY to the introduction of Dominican stylists and their techiniques into the salon culture in NYC.
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Excellent points Tracy, especially about the temperature of the stoves in the AA salons.
Tracy
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Do you notice predominantly of type 2 and 3 clients at NYC Dominican salons? My survey was brief and limited to Boston salons.
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Nope. 4z's, b's, a'...3c's - whatever the hairtypes in NY you see them in the salon in NY. And there is no appreciable difference in the percentage of looser curl patterns with long hair, then percentage of tighter curl patterns.
I think what you may be seeing in Boston is a general demographic in the area that know about and choose to frequent the salons. When I first began going to Dominican salons many years ago there tended to be more women of caribbean descent (many with looser curl patterns) in the salons because the technique is very similar to the techniques that are used in the Caribbean generally on women of color. Many "Haitian" salons do the exact same technique (rollerwraps) tho they aren't as good with the blower. In NY, since the salons are now so pervasive, and because NYC is such a ethnic hodge podge, you see many different hairtypes inthe salon and they all fare equally as well.
I agree that the blowdryers in Dom. salons may well be hotter than the handhelds in AA salons. But when you add the heat of the blowdryer to the heat of those UNNATURALLY hot curling irons they use from that little stove (which can heat those irons to degrees that can produce 1st degree burns. I know - I've had one dropped on my face
) it's six of one and half a dozen of the other IMO.
It's a mtter of preference. But I think the Dominican approach is better for the hair, and that the proof can be found in the patrons that frequent the salons that use it.
Do you notice predominantly of type 2 and 3 clients at NYC Dominican salons? My survey was brief and limited to Boston salons.
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Nope. 4z's, b's, a'...3c's - whatever the hairtypes in NY you see them in the salon in NY. And there is no appreciable difference in the percentage of looser curl patterns with long hair, then percentage of tighter curl patterns.
I think what you may be seeing in Boston is a general demographic in the area that know about and choose to frequent the salons. When I first began going to Dominican salons many years ago there tended to be more women of caribbean descent (many with looser curl patterns) in the salons because the technique is very similar to the techniques that are used in the Caribbean generally on women of color. Many "Haitian" salons do the exact same technique (rollerwraps) tho they aren't as good with the blower. In NY, since the salons are now so pervasive, and because NYC is such a ethnic hodge podge, you see many different hairtypes inthe salon and they all fare equally as well.
I agree that the blowdryers in Dom. salons may well be hotter than the handhelds in AA salons. But when you add the heat of the blowdryer to the heat of those UNNATURALLY hot curling irons they use from that little stove (which can heat those irons to degrees that can produce 1st degree burns. I know - I've had one dropped on my face
It's a mtter of preference. But I think the Dominican approach is better for the hair, and that the proof can be found in the patrons that frequent the salons that use it.
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