The difference between Komaza cares hair analysis & the live curly live free?

[sparkle25]

I want to do this so bad because I'm so sick of my dry hair. I need protein I've just discovered, but I also think my hair being so dry contributes to breakage. I want so bad to wear my natural hair but I can't because its so dry and doesn't look nice it's wet.

Products just sit on top of my hair. It will feel soft while the product is in, but once they dry, my hair is still dry with a film.

Now I want to do the hair analysis just so I can learn more about my hair. The one on komazas website is like I think $100? Please correct me if I'm wrong. And the live curly live free one is $20 dollars. Can anyone with experience tell me the difference?

 

[HeavenlySkies]

Have you already tried clarifying first then doing your usual regimen? I used to have a big problem with dry hair and feeling wack until I started doing the LOC method. Now it stays soft and feels how it should.

 

[MileHighDiva]

Amarilles had analysis' from both services. I don't remember her thoughts, but they're in the Komaza Care Analysis Rave thread. There's a lot of helpful info in that thread.

 

[sparkle25]

HeavenlySkies I don't use any products that aren't natural, so I have never felt the need to use a clarifying shampoo or anything. I think I have tried using baking soda in my cowash a few years ago. I didn't notice anything spectacular or else I would remember. Yesterday I did try putting baking soda in my deep conditioner yesterday and it made my hair hard and tangled.

 

[HeavenlySkies]

HeavenlySkies I don't use any products that aren't natural, so I have never felt the need to use a clarifying shampoo or anything. I think I have tried using baking soda in my cowash a few years ago. I didn't notice anything spectacular or else I would remember. Yesterday I did try putting baking soda in my deep conditioner yesterday and it made my hair hard and tangled.

Girllllllllllllllllllllll just because the products are natural don't mean they aren't going to coat your hair lol You need to get some $5 or less clarifying shampoo and then do your moisturizing thing before spending $100 on service that could be unnecessary. Because even if it's not the products it could just be hard water. Just sayin.

 

[sparkle25]

Girllllllllllllllllllllll just because the products are natural don't mean they aren't going to coat your hair lol You need to get some $5 or less clarifying shampoo and then do your moisturizing thing before spending $100 on service that could be unnecessary. Because even if it's not the products it could just be hard water. Just sayin.

Ha I guess I meant I don't use cones. I don't really use oils or anything either. I tried and they just feel greasy. Really the only thing I use regularly is jessicurls weekly deep treatment and Darcy's Botanicals leave in. The Darcy's is pretty light. I don't use anything else. Ill try things but they just make my hair feel oily so I wash them out.

 

[Amarilles]

Go for LCLF if you just want to know your hair properties, so porosity, texture and elasticity. That's pretty much the only information it'll give you, everything else is a copy/paste job according to your hair's properties. So if you have fine hair, it'll automatically tell you to use plenty of protein, without taking into account that there's people with fine hair that dislike it. I find this test generic, but it's great (and cheap) if one's just looking for their properties and basic info on what these properties normally like.

Do Komaza if you'd like a personalized analysis based on issues that you're experiencing. No two Komaza analyses are the same, unlike LCLF...so if you have questions, need help finding an issue, looking for feedback or want anything more than hair properties and some text, go with Komaza.

 

[RngdeCurls]

Sounds like your hair has low porosity. Maybe heated deep conditioning? Sorry if that's not of much help, I was hoping there'd be more info about the Komaza analysis as well.

 

[Ogoma]

There is a whole thread on Komaza:

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=626329&highlight=komaza+hair

 

[Ogoma]

I have done both and @Amarilles analysis is spot on. LCLF gives you the basic properties and Komaza looks at your strands under a microscope and gives you the properties and everything going on with the strands you sent. Komaza is much more comprehension.

I got different properties for both, but I did LCLF about 3 months after big chopping and Komaza about a year and three months later.

According to LCLF, I am low porosity and medium-coarse and Komaza stated I am normal porosity and medium-fine. My porosity could have changed over time and I had been using the mudwash for a few months before the Komaza test. Perhaps my cuticles were more raised. As for the texture, I have no idea why there is a difference. I am leaning more towards medium-coarse because my strands do not fit any definition of fine. You can see them very clearly and they do not break easily even when you stretch them a lot. My hair also doesn't love protein. I do mild/medium treatments once a month, but could stretch it easily to every other month. Once a month is just easier for me to remember. They both had medium so I will chuck it up to definition differences of where medium-coarse starts.

I typed a booklet here . I hope this helps.

 

[HanaKuroi]

Ha I guess I meant I don't use cones. I don't really use oils or anything either. I tried and they just feel greasy. Really the only thing I use regularly is jessicurls weekly deep treatment and Darcy's Botanicals leave in. The Darcy's is pretty light. I don't use anything else. Ill try things but they just make my hair feel oily so I wash them out.

You need to properly clarify/chelate. Use Aubrey Organics swimmers shampoo. You could have hard water and even us natural product users need to clarify from time to time.

Then you have to use something else besides a watery leave in. If you don't use anything else, the water will just evaporate if you don't seal it with an oil, butter or pomade.

Leave ins are usually used under your creams, lotions or milks.

DD uses Darcys leave in on her braids but she seals in the moisture with a light oil.

I not sure about that baking soda. I have heard the worst things about using it. How after using it their hair refused to absorb products and felt terrible. Their cuticles were all messed up. I would lay off baking soda.

I can't see any mentions on my IPhone. PM me if it is a must see. Allons y

 

[faithVA]

I agree with the post of Amarilles and Ogoma. I don't recommend Komaza for everyone. I do recommend it for anyone who has been struggling for a while (1.5 years or more). I think you can spend far more in products and tools struggling than the analysis costs. And as much help as their is on LHCF it is not always possible to pinpoint a persons issue from a screen.

The Komaza Analysis is not a magic wand. I believe it helps the majority, probably 80%. And even after the analysis you will need to do some additional learning, but you have a better basis than pure guessing.

I have had an analysis and will do another the end of next year to make sure that I am on track.

 

[KittyMeowMeow]

@HeavenlySkies I don't use any products that aren't natural, so I have never felt the need to use a clarifying shampoo or anything. I think I have tried using baking soda in my cowash a few years ago. I didn't notice anything spectacular or else I would remember. Yesterday I did try putting baking soda in my deep conditioner yesterday and it made my hair hard and tangled.

Just because products are "natural" doesn't mean they don't build up.

"Natural" conditioners still contain emulsifiers, which are basically glue to hold oil and water together and create buildup. Natural leaveins may contain wax, which is highly coating. Some of the worst buildup I got was from "natural" lines- QB, Darcy's and AO. Oils don't cause buildup, so that's not the problem.

"Natural" clarifying with ACV and baking soda doesn't do jack in my opinion and some of those soap based shampoos are drying. Use an actual clarifying shampoo like Ion from Sally's, or better yet get Terressentials mud wash for deep cleansing if you are natural. Follow up with a moisturizing DC if using shampoo.

 

[Lilmama1011]

Just because products are "natural" doesn't mean they don't build up. "Natural" conditioners still contain emulsifiers, which are basically glue to hold oil and water together and create buildup. Natural leaveins may contain wax, which is highly coating. Some of the worst buildup I got was from "natural" lines- QB, Darcy's and AO. Oils don't cause buildup, so that's not the problem. "Natural" clarifying with ACV and baking soda doesn't do jack in my opinion and some of those soap based shampoos are drying. Use an actual clarifying shampoo like Ion from Sally's, or better yet get Terressentials mud wash for deep cleansing if you are natural. Follow up with a moisturizing DC if using shampoo.

Exactly idk why people think natural products don't cause buildup and then they wonder why their hair starts to reject moisture all of a sudden and it's because something is coating the hair and not making it possible for moisture to seep in

 

[virtuenow]

As a dry haired highly porous person by nature, clarifying shampoos are hair suicide. They strip my hair bone dry beyond repair-- and make it difficult to put moisture back in. I find oil rinses and clay washes to be more effective in pulling out impurities & restoring moisture; also reconstructor DC's help to balance your protein & moisture (weekly). The Komaza analysis was the turning point in getting my hair on track; if you've tried everything else and still cannot find the solution-- the analysis is a good option for you.

 

[Endlesslegs]

I really want to do Komaza, but the analysis is NEVER EVER available when I check the site so frustrating! My hair's epic dryness has been bothering me for a while. Thanks for this thread OP

 

[leona2025]

Not to hijack this thread, but for a person like me who isn't having any issues with their hair and who has their reggie and products set is there any benefit to me getting my hair analyzed?

 

[faithVA]

leona2025[/USER];19321319]Not to hijack this thread, but for a person like me who isn't having any issues with their hair and who has their reggie and products set is there any benefit to me getting my hair analyzed?

I would say no.

 

[Umm Ebraheem]

Ha I guess I meant I don't use cones. I don't really use oils or anything either. I tried and they just feel greasy. Really the only thing I use regularly is jessicurls weekly deep treatment and Darcy's Botanicals leave in. The Darcy's is pretty light. I don't use anything else. Ill try things but they just make my hair feel oily so I wash them out.

If all you are using on your hair is a light leave-in then maybe you should use an oil or a heavy cream to seal in the moisture. Your issues with dryness could be because you are not using enough product. Also, starting fresh with a clarifying shampoo is a good idea even if you don't think you have product buildup. You could simply have buildup from the environment along with hair products. It is not necessarily only if you use cones.

 

[sparkle25]

Thanks ladies. I have gotten some good advice as always. I would like say my hair doesn't like oils. I've tried them all and they just sit on my hair making it feel greasy. So that is why I am not sealing. I'm going to try sealing with butters next and also there was something somebody else suggested from Komaza care that I could seal with that wasn't oil heavy. I think ill try that . More advice and experience is always welcome