the APOCRYPHA

AngelicRose07

back from years of hiatus
does anyone study this? i came across a internet talking bible(http://www.nttsuperplus.com/bibleframe1.htm) and it mentioned it

according to this and some other findings i found on a internet search, the apocyypha is a part of the bible that has been removed recently. it has missing books, etc.

can anyone bring any light to this?
 
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[font=Arial, Helvetica]The Old Testament in Protestant Bibles has 39 books. Catholic Bibles have 46 books -- seven extra books.[/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica]Protestants call these seven extra books the Apocrypha, from the Greek word [/font][font=Arial, Helvetica]apokruphos,[/font][font=Arial, Helvetica] meaning "hidden."[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica]Catholics know them as the deuterocanonical books...[/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica]"Deutero" means "second."[/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica]"Canon" designates those books that are inspired by God and, hence, are included in the Holy Bible.[/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica]Ergo, "deuterocanonical" means that Roman Catholics regard the seven extra books as a second set of God-inspired books.[/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica]In summary, Roman Catholic Bible Scholars believe the seven extra books are inspired by God. Protestant Bible scholars do not.[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica]Listed below are the seven extra books in Roman Catholic Bibles...[/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica]Tobit [/font][font=Arial, Helvetica]|[/font][font=Arial, Helvetica] Judith [/font][font=Arial, Helvetica]|[/font][font=Arial, Helvetica] 1st Maccabees [/font][font=Arial, Helvetica]|[/font][font=Arial, Helvetica] 2nd Maccabees[/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica]Book of Wisdom [/font][font=Arial, Helvetica]|[/font][font=Arial, Helvetica] Ecclesiasticus (Sirach) [/font][font=Arial, Helvetica]|[/font][font=Arial, Helvetica] Baruch[/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica]Also, Catholic Bibles contain...[/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica]107 additional verses in the book of Esther[/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica]Three additional chapters in the book of Daniel (174 verses)[/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica]If you want to read these extra books in their entirety, you will find them in Bibles such as...[/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica]The New American Bible (not to be confused with the New American Standard Version)[/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica]The New Jerusalem Bible[/font]
Off the Topic, there are also other books that were popular in the early days of Christianity that did not make it in the Bible for political reasons, but that's a whole nother can of worms. :lol:
 
weaveitup said:
well..lets open that can of worms! what stopped those books from making it into the bible?

Seriously, that can of worm is not the topic of the original post. My bad for mentioning it.
 
I found this article:

Are these lost books of the Bible?

There is much talk these days about lost books of the Bible. From cults to the New Age, people make all sorts of claims about how the Bible is missing books, books that help justify what they hope to believe. Sometimes people claim that the Bible was edited to take out reincarnation, or the teaching of higher planes of existence, or different gods, or ancestor worship, or "at-one-ment" with nature.
The "lost books" were never lost. They were known by the Jews in Old Testament times and the Christians of the New Testament times and were never considered scripture. They weren't lost nor were they removed. They were never in the Bible in the first place.
The additional books were not included in the Bible for several reasons. They lacked apostolic or prophetic authorship, they did not claim to be the Word of God; they contain unbiblical concepts such as prayer for the dead in 2 Macc. 12:45-46; or have some serious historical inaccuracies.
Nevertheless, the Roman Catholic church has added certain books to the canon of scripture. In 1546, largely due in response to the Reformation, the Roman Catholic church authorized several more books as scripture known as the apocrypha. The word apocrypha means hidden. It is used in a general sense to describe a list of books written by Jews between 300 and 100 B.C. More specifically, it is used of the 7 additional books accepted by the Catholic church as being inspired. The entire list of books of the apocrypha are: 1 and 2 Esdras, Tobit, Judith, the Rest of Esther, the Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach, (also titled Ecclesiasticus), Baruch, The Letter of Jeremiah, Song of the Three Young Men, Susanna, Bel and the Dragon, The Additions to Daniel, The Prayer of Manasseh, and 1 and 2 Maccabees. The books accepted as inspired and included in the Catholic Bible are Tobit, Judith, 1 and 2 Maccabees Wisdom of Solomon Sirach (also known as Ecclesiasticus), and Baruch
The Pseudepigraphal books are "false writings." They are a collection of early Jewish and "Christian" writings composed between 200 BC and AD 200. However, they too were known and were never considered scripture.
The deuterocanonical (apocrypha) books are those books that were included in the Greek Septuagint (LXX) but not included in the Hebrew Bible. The recognized deuterocanonical books are "Tobit, Judith, Wisdom of Solomon, Ecclesiasticus (also called Sirach or Ben Sira), Baruch (including the Letter of Jeremiah), 1 and 2 Maccabees, and additions to the books of Esther and Daniel. The canon of the Greek Orthodox community also includes 1 Esdras, the Prayer of Manasseh, Psalm 151, and 3 Maccabees, with 4 Maccabees as an appendix."1

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1. Achtemeier, Paul J., Th.D., Harper’s Bible Dictionary, (San Francisco: Harper and Row, Publishers, Inc.) 1985.

Source: http://www.carm.org/lost/intro_noncanonical.htm
 
I quote from my Good News Bible

Protestant churches today recognize these books as being valuable for private reading but they do not consider them to be an adequate basis for establishing doctrine.



I have not read all of the apocrypha but I have read part of the book of SIRACH. This book teaches how people should live. I pulled some passages randomly.



Sirach 2:1-6
1: My son, if you come forward to serve the Lord, prepare yourself for temptation.
2: Set your heart right and be steadfast, and do not be hasty in time of calamity.
3: Cleave to him and do not depart, that you may be honored at the end of your life.
4: Accept whatever is brought upon you, and in changes that humble you be patient.
5: For gold is tested in the fire, and acceptable men in the furnace of humiliation.
6: Trust in him, and he will help you; make your ways straight, and hope in him.

Sirach 7:1-3
1: Do no evil, and evil will never befall you.
2: Stay away from wrong, and it will turn away from you.
3: My son, do not sow the furrows of injustice, and you will not reap a sevenfold crop.


Sirach 7:16
16: Do not count yourself among the crowd of sinners; remember that wrath does not delay.
Sirach 11:20-22

20: Stand by your covenant and attend to it, and grow old in your work.
21: Do not wonder at the works of a sinner, but trust in the Lord and keep at your toil; for it is easy in the sight of the Lord to enrich a poor man quickly and suddenly.
22: The blessing of the Lord is the reward of the godly, and quickly God causes his blessing to flourish.







 
I quote from my Good News Bible

Protestant churches today recognize these books as being valuable for private reading but they do not consider them to be an adequate basis for establishing doctrine.



I have not read all of the apocrypha but I have read part of the book of SIRACH. This book teaches how people should live. I pulled some passages randomly.



Sirach 2:1-6
1: My son, if you come forward to serve the Lord, prepare yourself for temptation.
2: Set your heart right and be steadfast, and do not be hasty in time of calamity.
3: Cleave to him and do not depart, that you may be honored at the end of your life.
4: Accept whatever is brought upon you, and in changes that humble you be patient.
5: For gold is tested in the fire, and acceptable men in the furnace of humiliation.
6: Trust in him, and he will help you; make your ways straight, and hope in him.

Sirach 7:1-3
1: Do no evil, and evil will never befall you.
2: Stay away from wrong, and it will turn away from you.
3: My son, do not sow the furrows of injustice, and you will not reap a sevenfold crop.

Sirach 7:16
16: Do not count yourself among the crowd of sinners; remember that wrath does not delay.
Sirach 11:20-22

20: Stand by your covenant and attend to it, and grow old in your work.
21: Do not wonder at the works of a sinner, but trust in the Lord and keep at your toil; for it is easy in the sight of the Lord to enrich a poor man quickly and suddenly.
22: The blessing of the Lord is the reward of the godly, and quickly God causes his blessing to flourish.
I didn't find any of these to be true quite the contrary. I lived my life not intentionally harming anyone yet I have been harmed. I don't agree with the text to me, I think it doesn't help and to be honest it didn't feel right inside of me to even read it. I can honestly see why it would not be part of the bible. We are not promised anything in this world, only to be faithful and we will inherited the kingdom of God- thats it -anything else great that happens is a blessing from the lord. Most likely we should expect sorrow and pain.
 
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