Suicide and Heaven?

[loolalooh]

Can a Christian who has committed suicide still enter heaven?

I saw an old thread with a similar question, but I'm looking for more concrete responses (especially with Scripture attached). Hopefully, there is an agreement amongst the answers as well, as the old thread had a lot of conflicting responses.

Thanks.

 

[aribell]

This question is a difficult one, and maybe the discussion even has dangers. I think the biggest danger is that someone who is in a despairing frame of mind will latch onto comments suggesting that one can go to heaven after suicide and see doing so as a way out. It's not, and no one can guarantee someone else's acceptance before God, since only He knows their heart.

I will say this. In the negative, the Lord commands us not to kill, and in the positive He commands us to love Him will all of our heart, soul, mind and strength, and to love our neighbors as ourselves. The first command is broken and the second trampled upon in the case of suicide. And it snuffs out the opportunity to repent in this life.

Plus, regardless of how many times a righteous man like Job or Jeremiah may have rued the day they were ever born, suicide was never an option for men of God. Both Moses and Elijah asked God to take their lives, but they weren't about to do so themselves. Scripture seems to accept that sometimes things get so bad that people wish they had never been born or that they would die. But the examples of those who walked most closely with God don't show suicide as an option.

Also, suicide comes from an extremely deep well of despair, and despair is a mental and emotional state in which one has lost hope. If one has lost hope, then where is faith? As David said, "I would have despaired unless I had believed that I would see the goodness of the LORD In the land of the living." Psalm 27:13 To completely give up, you have to cease believing that the Lord will answer, and that's the opposite of persevering faith. "But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea that is driven and tossed by the wind. For that person must not suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord;he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways." James 1:8

At the same time, not everyone who commits suicide is in a right state of mind. People can be driven to do things they might not normally do. Only the Lord will be the judge.

 

[Galadriel]

Usually, no.

Suicide is a mortal sin, and you can't repent of it after you've done the deed.

However it is speculated that perhaps some people right before death regret the decision and ask for forgiveness, and of course those who are mentally ill may not be fully culpable because they lack the full possession of their reason.

 

[ItsMeFre]

I think possibly... no one knows where Gods love and mercy begins and ends.

 

[Iwanthealthyhair67]

Suicide will always be a touchy subject amongst the saved and unsaved, every one wants to go onto a better place despite their life living here on earth.

Unfortunately, the bible doesn't say much about it other than tell us that at least seven people committed suicide.

One of the most arguable persons is Samson, much speculation has gone on about his fate in the here after ...Samson's last prayer was one of revenge and not one of forgiveness....

and Judas everyone would agree that Judas went straight to hell, I'm sure he was filled with regret from his involvement in the betrayal of Jesus...


And there is a persons mental state (I'm not trying to be insensitive to persons who suffer from mental illnessess) we can say that an individual was depressed or bi-polar or what ever sickness that may affect the mind...Jesus is well able to deliver us from ALL sickness and disease, in fact, He said by His stripes we 'were' healed and in another verse it says we 'are' healed.

 

[aribell]

..............

 

[auparavant]

For us catholics, I've heard it said that people who are so desperate as to commit suicide are not in their right mind. It's almost akin to drug users. G-d has a special mercy for those if what I have heard.

 

[MrsHaseeb]

I really think that suicidal people are under some kind of demonic oppression. I won't say they are possessed but I definitely think there is some serious oppression by demonic forces. The thing is... Jesus Christ died to deliver us from demonic oppression and give us life more abundantly. No one has to stay in such a place. There is deliverance. The fact that these people didn't seek God proves that there are bigger issues. So while its very possible that God may have grace on a "Christian" who commits suicide, I also believe there are some issues behind the issue that may be another story altogether.

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[CoilyFields]

Basically I see this as a question of whether you can lose your salvation or not.
I believe that once saved always saved (truly saved, not trying to manipulate the gospel into an insurance policy-God knows) and therefore you are free from the ultimate penalty of sin which is hell. So even if you sin and then die before you repent you still go to heaven. Even if you commit suicide.

 

[MrsHaseeb]

Basically I see this as a question of whether you can lose your salvation or not.
I believe that once saved always saved (truly saved, not trying to manipulate the gospel into an insurance policy-God knows) and therefore you are free from the ultimate penalty of sin which is hell. So even if you sin and then die before you repent you still go to heaven. Even if you commit suicide.

I can't see a real Christian committing suicide. There is something demonic behind it. The bible shows us this

(KJV)Mark 9:20-22
And they brought him unto him: and when he saw him, straightway the spirit tare him; and he fell on the ground, and wallowed foaming. [21] And he asked his father, How long is it ago since this came unto him? And he said, Of a child. [22] And ofttimes it hath cast him into the fire, and into the waters, to destroy him: but if thou canst do any thing, have compassion on us, and help us.

Now that shows that there is a spirit behind a person who wants to kill or destroy themselves. So the whole idea of them being a Christian is quite questionable seeing that they would see suicide as their only way out. God's Word says that without faith it is impossible to please Him... To kill yourself instead of having trust in God to deliver you and change your circumstances shows a serious lack of faith in our Creator. And that being the case I simply don't see how there can be heaven after that. I'm not going off emotion here. I'm choosing to believe the Word of God. We see in this passage that Jesus delivered this child oppressed by a demonic spirit so surely our God can still deliver today. He doesn't change.

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[Galadriel]

So even if you sin and then die before you repent you still go to heaven. Even if you commit suicide.

1 John 5:16 "If you see a Christian brother or sister sinning in a way that does not lead to death, you should pray, and God will give that person life. But there is a sin that leads to death, and I am not saying you should pray for those who commit it."

Rev. 21:27 "Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life."

1 Peter 1:16 "because it is written, "YOU SHALL BE HOLY, FOR I AM HOLY."

Exodus 20:13 "Thou shalt not kill."

Job 34:33 "Should God then reward you on your terms, when you refuse to repent? You must decide, not I; so tell me what you know."