Shea Growth And Retention Regimen 2019

[Chicoro]

Shes gonna make us all herbalist in training. We;re here to learn @ElevatedEnergy . I can't wait to use my black soap shampoo. My goal is booty length hair

I just now noticed this! This is so true.

 

[ElevatedEnergy]

If @Chicoro decides to host a Shea 2020 challenge next year, I will commit to teaching more as I learn.

Especially on how to make your own hair products and customize it to fit your hair.

Right now, I am focusing on developing a full plant based product line exclusively for my hair. Not to sell...but simply just because nobody knows my hair better than me, so who better to formulate products to give it exactly what it needs to thrive and flourish?

I have... and/or working on:

As cleansers:
1) Clay & Black Soap Shampoo (Deep Cleanse)
2) Pumpkin & Fig Cleansing Conditioner (Gentle Cleanse)

Conditioner/Leave in/Moisturize/Detangler etc....my all in one lol:
3) Marshmallow Rose Conditioning Milk

Deep Hydrating Treatment:
4) Fenugreek & Banana Mask

Strengthening Treatment:
5) Avocado Cream & Argan Restorative Mask

Moisturizer, light weight leave in for roller sets, Scalp health, Growth Booster:
6) RoseWater Bamboo Scalp & Hair Tonic

Sealant:
7)Shea & Oats Whipped Butter

Most are Shea Based (duh)....

So if yall are ready....class will be in session Jan 2020!

For now.....stay Shea'd up! Your Shea Sister is still learning & testing.

 

[blazingbeauty]

If @Chicoro decides to host a Shea 2020 challenge next year, I will commit to teaching more as I learn.

Especially on how to make your own hair products and customize it to fit your hair.

Right now, I am focusing on developing a full plant based product line exclusively for my hair. Not to sell...but simply just because nobody knows my hair better than me, so who better to formulate products to give it exactly what it needs to thrive and flourish?

I have... and/or working on:

As cleansers:
1) Clay & Black Soap Shampoo (Deep Cleanse)
2) Pumpkin & Fig Cleansing Conditioner (Gentle Cleanse)

Conditioner/Leave in/Moisturize/Detangler etc....my all in one lol:
3) Marshmallow Rose Conditioning Milk

Deep Hydrating Treatment:
4) Fenugreek & Banana Mask

Strengthening Treatment:
5) Avocado Cream & Argan Restorative Mask

Moisturizer, light weight leave in for roller sets, Scalp health, Growth Booster:
6) RoseWater Bamboo Scalp & Hair Tonic

Sealant:
7)Shea & Oats Whipped Butter

Most are Shea Based (duh)....

So if yall are ready....class will be in session Jan 2020!

For now.....stay Shea'd up! Your Shea Sister is still learning & testing.

You are so creative! That would be great. I’m trying to reduce how many products I buy bc of the waste it can produce and the expense. There’s only so many ways to repurpose a DC jar - not enough shea to fill them lol. My first experiment will be to try and make a DIY Aphogee 2 Step Treatment out of gelatin (via found a recipe online)

 

[VictoriousBrownFlower]

If @Chicoro decides to host a Shea 2020 challenge next year, I will commit to teaching more as I learn.

Especially on how to make your own hair products and customize it to fit your hair.

Right now, I am focusing on developing a full plant based product line exclusively for my hair. Not to sell...but simply just because nobody knows my hair better than me, so who better to formulate products to give it exactly what it needs to thrive and flourish?

I have... and/or working on:

As cleansers:
1) Clay & Black Soap Shampoo (Deep Cleanse)
2) Pumpkin & Fig Cleansing Conditioner (Gentle Cleanse)

Conditioner/Leave in/Moisturize/Detangler etc....my all in one lol:
3) Marshmallow Rose Conditioning Milk

Deep Hydrating Treatment:
4) Fenugreek & Banana Mask

Strengthening Treatment:
5) Avocado Cream & Argan Restorative Mask

Moisturizer, light weight leave in for roller sets, Scalp health, Growth Booster:
6) RoseWater Bamboo Scalp & Hair Tonic

Sealant:
7)Shea & Oats Whipped Butter

Most are Shea Based (duh)....

So if yall are ready....class will be in session Jan 2020!

For now.....stay Shea'd up! Your Shea Sister is still learning & testing.

@Chicoro hint hint

@ElevatedEnergy those all sound awesome!!!! With all the knowledge i've learned from this thread i now can make my own diy moisturizing dc, protein dc (using moisturizing recipe and adding neutral protein filler), shampoo ( thanks for the inspiration its awesome and smells heavenly), and sealant. I'm not bold enough to try leave ins but LOVE making teas and oil infusions now using herbs and other goodies. Who woulda thought!!!! I make my own skin products and bath soak too (inspired by this thread as well) My skin (and hair) is my most prized posession (NOW!!!).

 

[mzteaze]

The ph (even watered down) will be high so this alone will stop it from going bad too fast, but I would still put it in the fridge and use it within a week. I always preseve my stuff though AND still refridgerate it. Potassium Sorbate has become my fav preservative....that with citric acid to balance the ph.

I'm glad you answered this question because I looked at the label of the product I bought. They don't list a preservative at all, which makes me question the need for a preservative.

Of course every recipe I've looked at doesn't address the need to preserve OR if the product will go bad fast either.

 

[Chicoro]

If @Chicoro decides to host a Shea 2020 challenge next year, I will commit to teaching more as I learn.

Especially on how to make your own hair products and customize it to fit your hair.

Right now, I am focusing on developing a full plant based product line exclusively for my hair. Not to sell...but simply just because nobody knows my hair better than me, so who better to formulate products to give it exactly what it needs to thrive and flourish?

I have... and/or working on:

As cleansers:
1) Clay & Black Soap Shampoo (Deep Cleanse)
2) Pumpkin & Fig Cleansing Conditioner (Gentle Cleanse)

Conditioner/Leave in/Moisturize/Detangler etc....my all in one lol:
3) Marshmallow Rose Conditioning Milk

Deep Hydrating Treatment:
4) Fenugreek & Banana Mask

Strengthening Treatment:
5) Avocado Cream & Argan Restorative Mask

Moisturizer, light weight leave in for roller sets, Scalp health, Growth Booster:
6) RoseWater Bamboo Scalp & Hair Tonic

Sealant:
7)Shea & Oats Whipped Butter

Most are Shea Based (duh)....

So if yall are ready....class will be in session Jan 2020!

For now.....stay Shea'd up! Your Shea Sister is still learning & testing.

Hmmmmm.....
*Contemplates this offer.* Continues to chew gum and peruse the Shea butter thread.

 

[shespoison]

Eden body works is having a one day sale. Everything is only $5 today!

 

[water_n_oil]

You are so creative! That would be great. I’m trying to reduce how many products I buy bc of the waste it can produce and the expense. There’s only so many ways to repurpose a DC jar - not enough shea to fill them lol. My first experiment will be to try and make a DIY Aphogee 2 Step Treatment out of gelatin (via found a recipe online)

Reducing waste and cost are the major reasons I got into DIY as well.

 

[snoop]

I'm glad you answered this question because I looked at the label of the product I bought. They don't list a preservative at all, which makes me question the need for a preservative.

Of course every recipe I've looked at doesn't address the need to preserve OR if the product will go bad fast either.

I'm not sure if this is handmade or not, but sometimes people don't list preservatives so that they can attract the custom of those who are "anti-" preservatives.

 

[water_n_oil]

I'm not sure if this is handmade or not, but sometimes people don't list preservatives so that they can attract the custom of those who are "anti-" preservatives.

Yup. I've run into companies who don't list the full ingredients. Super annoying imo considering people have allergies they need to look out for. DD1 broke out from a Honey's Handmade product and none of the listed ingredients were allergens for her plus the list wouldn't give you a shelf stable product.

 

[ElevatedEnergy]

You are so creative! That would be great. I’m trying to reduce how many products I buy bc of the waste it can produce and the expense. There’s only so many ways to repurpose a DC jar - not enough shea to fill them lol. My first experiment will be to try and make a DIY Aphogee 2 Step Treatment out of gelatin (via found a recipe online)

I love this perspective. DIY is extremely cost effective. I've been able to buy in bulk once or twice annually and spend nothing in between those times. I'm just beginning to restock raw ingredients that I had previously purchased 2 to 3 years ago. I'm done purchasing for this year and can focus my monies in other areas.

I also never even considered the reduction of waste that you mentioned. Yay to helping Mother Earth!

 

[ElevatedEnergy]

@Chicoro hint hint

@ElevatedEnergy those all sound awesome!!!! With all the knowledge i've learned from this thread i now can make my own diy moisturizing dc, protein dc (using moisturizing recipe and adding neutral protein filler), shampoo ( thanks for the inspiration its awesome and smells heavenly), and sealant. I'm not bold enough to try leave ins but LOVE making teas and oil infusions now using herbs and other goodies. Who woulda thought!!!! I make my own skin products and bath soak too (inspired by this thread as well) My skin (and hair) is my most prized posession (NOW!!!).

It's amazing what we can do when we decide that we can do it, huh? The greatest ideas and inventions started with someone simply having the belief that it could be done. I'm so excited for your new found DIY/handmade adventures. Also double as excited for your health journey. You are just killing it all around.

 

[ElevatedEnergy]

I'm glad you answered this question because I looked at the label of the product I bought. They don't list a preservative at all, which makes me question the need for a preservative.

Of course every recipe I've looked at doesn't address the need to preserve OR if the product will go bad fast either.

I've seen some say that it will last up to 6 months without a perservative....but thats only if you use a certain amount of water to a certain amount of black soap ratio AND do not include any oils. The PH is usually around 10 to 11 which is hell to the nall for my hair, but the PH will be high enough to either kill off any nasties/or even prevent them from growing. I'm not willing to test that theory though. I perfer the PH of mine to fall in a range of 6 to 6.5, so I always lower the PH and then preserve it. It's such a small percentage of preservative needed to get a better quality product that wont strip the hair. I don't understand when people are unwilling or hesitant to use a preservative especially when there are food grade ones that are not harmful to the hair/skin.

There is one company I know of for sure that does not use preservatives in a lot of water based products they sell. They pride themselves on that, however I've seen many reviews online of people stating their product grew mold within a few weeks of receiving it. I cannot.

 

[ElevatedEnergy]

Hmmmmm.....
*Contemplates this offer.* Continues to chew gum and peruse the Shea butter thread.

Just think of all the magical unicorns out there just waiting for your passion of Queen Shea. There is still work to be done!

 

[mzteaze]

I've seen some say that it will last up to 6 months without a perservative....but thats only if you use a certain amount of water to a certain amount of black soap ratio AND do not include any oils. The PH is usually around 10 to 11 which is hell to the nall for my hair, but the PH will be high enough to either kill off any nasties/or even prevent them from growing. I'm not willing to test that theory though. I perfer the PH of mine to fall in a range of 6 to 6.5, so I always lower the PH and then preserve it. It's such a small percentage of preservative needed to get a better quality product that wont strip the hair. I don't understand when people are unwilling or hesitant to use a preservative especially when there are food grade ones that are not harmful to the hair/skin.

There is one company I know of for sure that does not use preservatives in a lot of water based products they sell. They pride themselves on that, however I've seen many reviews online of people stating their product grew mold within a few weeks of receiving it. I cannot.

I don't think it's hesitation or unwillingness to use a safe preservative, I think it comes down to education. I've watched a number of video recipes for DIY black soap shampoo, for example, and only one mentioned using a preservative that wasn't rosemary extract or vitamin E. It's the same with written recipes, outside of the ones I've collected from retailers, most do not list BTMS or any other preservative.

I'd love to have some guidelines on the safe amounts to add to any DIY product since I typically do not use my products up quickly.

IMHO I think this is one reason many are more hesitant to try DIY - the cost of materials for product of unknown efficacy AND the fear of having to throw away results due to spoilage.

 

[mzteaze]

Yup. I've run into companies who don't list the full ingredients. Super annoying imo considering people have allergies they need to look out for. DD1 broke out from a Honey's Handmade product and none of the listed ingredients were allergens for her plus the list wouldn't give you a shelf stable product.

This drives me crazy, in part because I work in this part of the industry.

Also, because said black soap shampoo was $30.

 

[IDareT'sHair]

@Chicoro


Thank you for Post #1863

Very Helpful.

 

[mzteaze]

If @Chicoro decides to host a Shea 2020 challenge next year, I will commit to teaching more as I learn.

Especially on how to make your own hair products and customize it to fit your hair.

Right now, I am focusing on developing a full plant based product line exclusively for my hair. Not to sell...but simply just because nobody knows my hair better than me, so who better to formulate products to give it exactly what it needs to thrive and flourish?

I have... and/or working on:

As cleansers:
1) Clay & Black Soap Shampoo (Deep Cleanse)
2) Pumpkin & Fig Cleansing Conditioner (Gentle Cleanse)

Conditioner/Leave in/Moisturize/Detangler etc....my all in one lol:
3) Marshmallow Rose Conditioning Milk

Deep Hydrating Treatment:
4) Fenugreek & Banana Mask

Strengthening Treatment:
5) Avocado Cream & Argan Restorative Mask

Moisturizer, light weight leave in for roller sets, Scalp health, Growth Booster:
6) RoseWater Bamboo Scalp & Hair Tonic

Sealant:
7)Shea & Oats Whipped Butter

Most are Shea Based (duh)....

So if yall are ready....class will be in session Jan 2020!

For now.....stay Shea'd up! Your Shea Sister is still learning & testing.

This is an idea I fully support. Let's make it happen.

 

[ElevatedEnergy]

I don't think it's hesitation or unwillingness to use a safe preservative, I think it comes down to education. I've watched a number of video recipes for DIY black soap shampoo, for example, and only one mentioned using a preservative that wasn't rosemary extract or vitamin E. It's the same with written recipes, outside of the ones I've collected from retailers, most do not list BTMS or any other preservative.

I'd love to have some guidelines on the safe amounts to add to any DIY product since I typically do not use my products up quickly.

IMHO I think this is one reason many are more hesitant to try DIY - the cost of materials for product of unknown efficacy AND the fear of having to throw away results due to spoilage.

Totally understandable. The entire post!

Once you get into it though and really start buying the raw ingrediants, the companies will list the recommended usage rates. The education is out there, it's just a matter of seeking it and most are not willing to dig for it, or want somebody else to hand them the answers....or just say the hell with it and buy it already made.

It can be as overwhelming as you make it or as simple as you make it. I decided to go the simple route...research Ingrediants one by one and how they react on my hair over the course of 3 years. I replaced my products one by one. No rush here...I have until the day I die to learn. LOL

Edited typos! LOL

 

[yamilee21]

... DIY is extremely cost effective. I've been able to buy in bulk once or twice annually and spend nothing in between those times. I'm just beginning to restock raw ingredients that I had previously purchased 2 to 3 years ago. I'm done purchasing for this year and can focus my monies in other areas. ...

Cost is a major factor for me with regard to DIY, too. Especially as I have to care for 3 heads/bodies besides mine (including my almost-classic length daughter). I hadn't thought about it, but I bought a bunch of oils and butters last May, and I have not had to buy new supplies yet, other than a gallon of aloe vera gel.

 

[ElevatedEnergy]

It pays to put out there what you want....one of our Shea Sisters is sending me some Shea Nilotica. I think she got tired of me talking about it

Oooooooohhhhhh Weeeeeeeeeee, I cant wait to get my hands on that goodness.

And the White Soap from 3cayg is a keeper. I'm officially hooked after todays wash day

 

[snoop]

I don't think it's hesitation or unwillingness to use a safe preservative, I think it comes down to education. I've watched a number of video recipes for DIY black soap shampoo, for example, and only one mentioned using a preservative that wasn't rosemary extract or vitamin E. It's the same with written recipes, outside of the ones I've collected from retailers, most do not list BTMS or any other preservative.

I'd love to have some guidelines on the safe amounts to add to any DIY product since I typically do not use my products up quickly.

IMHO I think this is one reason many are more hesitant to try DIY - the cost of materials for product of unknown efficacy AND the fear of having to throw away results due to spoilage.

I love formulating. I make my own hair lotion and body lotion and now thanks to this thread shea butter!

I used to do dupes of Anita Grant's clay, but over time I've realized that I don't need a ton of products to maintain my hair so my experiments aren't too many, these days.

 

[BeautifulRoots]

Perhaps...if there are 6,000 posts by Dec 2019, I may reconsider...

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If @Chicoro decides to host a Shea 2020 challenge next year, I will commit to teaching more as I learn.

Okay! Let me get these fingers ready to type, got to get to 6000 because there's too much on the line for this Shea 2020 challenge.

 

[water_n_oil]

Okay! Let me get these fingers ready to type, got to get to 6000 because there's too much on the line for this Shea 2020 challenge.

That Kenan gif took me out as that was my exact reaction to her post

 

[Prisangela]

I shared one upthread that can be added and tweaked depending on what your hair likes.

I dont feel like looking for the post but it was this recipe:
90 grams water
7 grams shea
3 grams BTMS 50

That one is easy and light.

To make it heavier...decrease the water and increase the shea and btms by 5 grams at a time until you get the desired consistency/Moisture level for your hair.

My DC is a bit more complicated and most wouldnt just have the ingredients sitting around, but the recipe I provided already will be a good starting point for tweaking & playing around with.

thanks Doll! much appreciated

 

[Prisangela]

Ok so this White African Black Soap is the business. Gone head nih 3cayg! She is killing the Shea & Black Soap Game.

It doesnt take long to liquify. I added around 8 ounces of room temperature distilled water to 3 ounces of the white soap. It melted on contact

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This was after around 8 or so minutes.

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I added some rose clay, rhassoul clay, a few other ingredients and it took on a pretty pink color.

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The bubbles are big but more like foam.

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looks for the post where you mentioned where u bought this from....cuz sis! wow

 

[Prisangela]

ok ladies i've finally perfected my (going out) summer shea for my skin. Its the dupe of fenty lava.
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it needs more fragrance but either than that it's great!!!! Wearing it tomorrow.... I have a reg body shea mix that has coffee oil in it(can't waste my good stuff).

WHOA!!!!

 

[Prisangela]

finally caught up on the thread. @Chicoro please Please PLEASE dont leave us!!!

 

[SunkissedLife]

This is an idea I fully support. Let's make it happen.

+1

@Chicoro and @ElevatedEnergy we need you to stay. I’m still taking notes! Or start selling some unicorn making mixes

 

[SunkissedLife]

Totally understandable. The entire post!

Once you get into it though and really start buying the raw ingrediants, the companies will list the recommended usage rates. The education is out there, it's just a matter of seeking it and most are not willing to dig for it, or want somebody else to hand them the answers....or just say the hell with it and buy it already made.

It can be as overwhelming as you make it or as simple as you make it. I decided to go the simple route...research Ingrediants one by one and how they react on my hair over the course of 3 years. I replaced my products one by one. No rush here...I have until the day I die to learn. LOL

Edited typos! LOL

If @Chicoro decides to host a Shea 2020 challenge next year, I will commit to teaching more as I learn.

Especially on how to make your own hair products and customize it to fit your hair.

Right now, I am focusing on developing a full plant based product line exclusively for my hair. Not to sell...but simply just because nobody knows my hair better than me, so who better to formulate products to give it exactly what it needs to thrive and flourish?

I have... and/or working on:

As cleansers:
1) Clay & Black Soap Shampoo (Deep Cleanse)
2) Pumpkin & Fig Cleansing Conditioner (Gentle Cleanse)

Conditioner/Leave in/Moisturize/Detangler etc....my all in one lol:
3) Marshmallow Rose Conditioning Milk

Deep Hydrating Treatment:
4) Fenugreek & Banana Mask

Strengthening Treatment:
5) Avocado Cream & Argan Restorative Mask

Moisturizer, light weight leave in for roller sets, Scalp health, Growth Booster:
6) RoseWater Bamboo Scalp & Hair Tonic

Sealant:
7)Shea & Oats Whipped Butter

Most are Shea Based (duh)....

So if yall are ready....class will be in session Jan 2020!

For now.....stay Shea'd up! Your Shea Sister is still learning & testing.

Sounds like you have a great set of products and routine to effectively use them.

For me I’m still using Alikay Naturals black soap shampoo. I have 2 HG deep conditioners I will be using alone and mixing into glosses. My fav DIYs are oils and Shea butter. I’m going to experiment w a more liquid/serum type Shea butter that’s also Ayurvedic based for the summer.