Senegalese twists on relaxed hair?

[NIN4eva]

You guys... I am desperate for some Senegalese or Marley twists but cannot keep my relaxed ends from sticking out of the twists. I've tried using kinky curly curling custard and strong hold Keracare foam but those didn't work out. I'm afraid of using stronger gel on my ends because my hair is healthy. Anyone have any ideas or do I need to just let it go? BTW, I have Femme Marley Hair.

 

[kxlot79]

Are you doing your own hair or is someone else?

The texture of hair has never mattered when I've done my own or other's hair.

When you're doing the twists are you sandwiching your hair between the extension hair. Kinda like this: (H), (H)? Then twist each of the two strands around themselves, almost like you're doing two coils, before twisting them together. Mine come out perfect every time with this technique.

Also, are you installing on damp or dry hair? And are you using too much product? Are your strands slippery as you add the extension hair? On my own hair, I've never had to use product for extensions (whether kinky or not), but I have used a little product for relatives with much looser/finer hair...

I might have some better recommendations if you answer my questions...

HTH!

 

[NIN4eva]

kxlot79

Thanks for the input!

- Doing it myself because I'm cheap. I used to do individuals on myself all the time when I transitioned to natural a few years ago, but it seems I no longer have the patience for that.

- When I tried to do the "H" method I had the HARDEST time in the back. I need some serious practice with the method. I need to be doing the "H" method and then two strand twisting. That would probably help, but the extension pops out (the horizontal bar in the "H" that's held against the scalp) after I start to twist the two strands together. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong there. I wonder If I just need to practice or if I just don't have the dexterity for all that twisting, lol.

- So I tried just braiding the Marley hair in and then twisting. The twists were weak and the ends of my hair pop out.

- I sprayed each section with a little water and then added a bit of Keracare foam and KCCC. Yes, strands are slippery, but I was hoping the custard and foam would help with hold.

- I'd like to add that Femme Marley Hair is kind of a ratty mess. If I realized I would need to do so much brushing before I used it I never would have bought it. No one mentions that in all those blogs and YouTube vids, lol.


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[kxlot79]

No problem! I've gotten so many tips and nuggets of wisdom from this forum, I feel compelled to share whatever bit of knowledge I have.

I am all for DIY! The longer my hair gets, the less I trust it to anyone's hands but mine.

Practice makes perfect. I like to start my styles in the back of my head, because it's the most difficult as far as reaching and maneuvering. If I start at the front, that hair will be so perfect and neat but by the time I get to the back, it's much harder to style and I'm zapped of energy.
I recommend starting in the back whenever possible because of this and also because whatever mistakes you make are less visible in the back and you're more like to do it as neat as possible because you start on it energized. By the time you get to the front, the ease of doing it and your tiredness should balance it out to the back.

I'm also going to recommend you try installing your extensions on varying dampness to see what works best. I preferred styling my relaxed hair 90% dry. And you might be using too much product if your hair/the extension hair is slippery. I find it generally harder to grip hair when there's enough gel and whatnot to make my fingers slippery.
*I would also recommend trying a pomade kind of product instead of a gel--- something with more tackiness to it than slipperiness, like Goin Natural's gel or like an edge control pomade.*

And what I believe would help you most and might be a last resort sort of thing would be to overlap your twists. It's something generally not recommended to do. But for hair that doesn't like to stay in extensions, I've found this technique to work.
What you do is periodically take out very small pieces of the two twists and switch them. If you take very small pieces and you do it neatly, you won't be able to tell what's been done until you take them out. And when you take them down, it will be a little trickier than taking down a braid.
So let's say you have the right strand of the twist (rRr) and the left strand of the twist (lLl). What you do is (lRr)(lLr), (rRl)(rLl) and just alternate periodically like that. It forms a much more sturdy twist and makes it very difficult for the twist to unravel and for your own hair to poke out if you do it every six turns or so.
I hope my explanation makes sense. I can try to upload a picture of what I'm describing later if that would be helpful to you.
My explanation might sound more complicated than it really is, but I promise it works if you can get the hang of it.

HTH!

kxlot79

Thanks for the input!

- Doing it myself because I'm cheap. I used to do individuals on myself all the time when I transitioned to natural a few years ago, but it seems I no longer have the patience for that.

- When I tried to do the "H" method I had the HARDEST time in the back. I need some serious practice with the method. I need to be doing the "H" method and then two strand twisting. That would probably help, but the extension pops out (the horizontal bar in the "H" that's held against the scalp) after I start to twist the two strands together. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong there. I wonder If I just need to practice or if I just don't have the dexterity for all that twisting, lol.

- So I tried just braiding the Marley hair in and then twisting. The twists were weak and the ends of my hair pop out.

- I sprayed each section with a little water and then added a bit of Keracare foam and KCCC. Yes, strands are slippery, but I was hoping the custard and foam would help with hold.

- I'd like to add that Femme Marley Hair is kind of a ratty mess. If I realized I would need to do so much brushing before I used it I never would have bought it. No one mentions that in all those blogs and YouTube vids, lol.

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[naturalmanenyc]

NIN4eva

You might want to try braiding your own hair and hiding it inside the twists. This woman shows her Havana Twist take down done at the salon who created the style (Afrigenix) and they apparently hide the customers braided hair in the twist. http://youtu.be/rI79DA47urQ

This guy shows how to braid your hair into extensions: http://youtu.be/tyJgqWMC1QE

 

[NIN4eva]

naturalmanenyc and kxlot79 Thanks ladies, I will keep on practicing! I appreciate ya'll!