Please Help....

bluediamond0829

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okay i just grew out my short hair cut...and now my hair is to my ears like a bob :) .i ordered the Affirm mild(i usually use mild relaxers) i relaxed my hair..its hard sometimes for me to make sure that the back of my hair is relaxed good..which i probably shouldve started in the back and worked my way forward but i didnt....i kept the relaxer on for 10-15 minutes on Sunday...but the only problem i am now having is when i use the heated rollers in the morning my hair looks like it is so frizzy and looks as if the relaxer in the back did not take as good...the front looks good and straight...i just want to knw what can i do to get this section straight? I've done back in the past where ive put another relaxer on but for a short time in the past and didnot damage my hair would this be okay? I thought that maybe i didnt put enought of oil on my hair...so last night when i got home i oiled my hair and wrapped it..but it still came out the same...i thought maybe it was the heat from the rollers that was making it dry out but im not for sure...The front is fine...i really need some suggestions on what to do...i just went a purchased some hot oil treatments....its been awhile since ive dealt with my own hair because ive had it in braids and micros for so long...please help....
 
Sounds like the back is underprocessed and needs a corrective relaxer. Do you have anyone you trust to do it for you?
 
OK i know i wasnot suppose to do this but i went on relaxed again..but i dont think that it is the relaxer or how long of time i would leave the relaxer in...heres what i did...

1. applied protective(Affrim)
2. applied relaxer(affim mild)
3. rinsed relaxer
4. appiled V05 hot oil treatment for 1 minute
5. then rinsed V05 hot oil treatment
6. neutralized hair shampoo (affrim)
7. applied olive oil oil treatment with hair may.ORS
8. rinsed treatment
9. used Infusim leave in conditioner
10. blow dried and sprayed with Doo Gro Hair Glossifier

My hair was fine..then this morning i got up used the heated rollers it looked great but then when i combed in place...it still looked nappy at the ends the top is fine..while i rolled it i sprayed it with the Doo Groo Hair Glossifier...and before i even got outside it looked nappy...so now im starting to think that it maybe the heated rollers because of the steam that is drying to my hair...so im going to have to go look for my Hot n' Gold mini flat iron..my last one broke because i used it soo much...i like the mini flat iron because i was able to handle it better than the regular size one....
 
I'm going to go out on a limb, here...this is not my area of specialty, but you may be using too much heat.

You blow dried, then flat ironed, then at some point you used a hot curler. If you used grease at any point when using direct heat, that's like frying the hair, literally. Your ends may be in need of some TLC. If they are frizzing up like that, my guess is they are either damaged, or not dry and since you don't rollerset, I can exclude damp ends.
 
bluediamond0829 said:
OK i know i wasnot suppose to do this but i went on relaxed again..but i dont think that it is the relaxer or how long of time i would leave the relaxer in...heres what i did...

1. applied protective(Affrim)
2. applied relaxer(affim mild)
3. rinsed relaxer
4. appiled V05 hot oil treatment for 1 minute
5. then rinsed V05 hot oil treatment
6. neutralized hair shampoo (affrim)
7. applied olive oil oil treatment with hair may.ORS
8. rinsed treatment
9. used Infusim leave in conditioner
10. blow dried and sprayed with Doo Gro Hair Glossifier

My hair was fine..then this morning i got up used the heated rollers it looked great but then when i combed in place...it still looked nappy at the ends the top is fine..while i rolled it i sprayed it with the Doo Groo Hair Glossifier...and before i even got outside it looked nappy...so now im starting to think that it maybe the heated rollers because of the steam that is drying to my hair...so im going to have to go look for my Hot n' Gold mini flat iron..my last one broke because i used it soo much...i like the mini flat iron because i was able to handle it better than the regular size one....

:scratchch: Hmmm, I'm not sure either.
Let's see, as far as applying a hot oil trtmt, I think it's best to neutralize first before applying hot oil. I know you only did it for one minute but Affirm even recommends to use the 5 n1 or Positive link, to normalize the hair first, then to neutralize. I know VO5 hotoil has other ingredients in, so it may not react well immediately after the relaxer is rinsed out.

Also, did you lightly shampoo your hair after applying the olive oil and mayo treatment. It's hard to rinse out olive oil.

Also, I didn't see anything about using a true Moisturizing conditioner, such as Kera Care Humecto, Humectress, etc. I think that ORS Mayo may have some protein in it and many recommend to wait at least 2 weeks before applying a heavy protein. (but I'm not sure if it's even a heavy protein.) I just know the ORS Mayo left my hair feeling very dry and not moisturized, so you may want to follow it with some moisturizing conditioner.

As far as the Hot steam rollers, I think it's possible the steam may be causing your hair to revert some and appear "nappier" than it really is.

I would also suggest relaxing the most resistant areas first. You may also benefit from a trim, to help with your ends.

As far as using a blowdryer and hot curlers/flat iron, along with grease, well I do it every 2 weeks with NO ill effects. My hair doesn't sizzle, because I don't apply alot of grease/oil. My hair is colored treated and really soaks up the oils. Anyway, I think as long as your hair is healthy without any damaged ends, it will be ok to use limited heat. Once or Twice every two weeks Only.

Okay, I know I've listed many suggestions. I hope one of them helps.
 
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no i didnt use a flat iron..i just blowdryed it last night...put oil on it and wrapped it..got up this morning used the heated steam rollers...and thats it...but it still ended up being frizzy and nappy looking..so im thinking that it is coming from the heated steamed rollers.....but i understand what u mean...thanks so much for the help...by the way i love ur hair...did u ever get time to send me ur regimen? this is so new to me because i have had short hair for almost a year and then braids...so im back to trying to find out what works for my hair....
 
bluediamond0829 said:
no i didnt use a flat iron..i just blowdryed it last night...put oil on it and wrapped it..got up this morning used the heated steam rollers...and thats it...but it still ended up being frizzy and nappy looking..so im thinking that it is coming from the heated steamed rollers.....but i understand what u mean...thanks so much for the help...by the way i love ur hair...did u ever get time to send me ur regimen? this is so new to me because i have had short hair for almost a year and then braids...so im back to trying to find out what works for my hair....
I think kitchen was right...could be the steam from the rollers.

I'm gonna get my routine typed up right now!
 
thanks webby and kitchian soooo much for the advice..but yea i think later when i get another relaxer which will be awhile...i need to get the 5 in 1 ordered an here so i can use it...and i do believe that it is the steam from the rollers that is drying it out..because if i comb it out and touch it its oily...im going to keep experiementing not with chemicals but finding something that i can do to make my curls look nice and fresh...thanks webby for the regimen....
 
okay i went and spent money again on a hair product this time a mini flat iron but i think this is it...back a long time ago because i couldnt handle using the regular size flat iron by goldnhot i purchased a mini one that was so nice a small i loved that thing that it just broke the cord and plates and all i wore it down baby...but i was highly upset that now that i have my hair back to where i can use a flat iron and do my own hair that i could not find the mini flat iron.i went to like 4 stores looking until i just had to get the new slim mini flat iron i thought i wasnt going to be able to handle using it with my hair but luckily last night i used it and it worked my hair came out very nice..i used this morning and i feel so good...and im not purchasing another hair product...until i actually run out of hair product....thanks everyone for the informaiton..and it was the steam rollers..unfourtantely i cant take it back because i tossed the box..but oh well...maybe i can use it when my hair gets longer and not let the rollers get a hot....
 
bluediamond0829 said:
unfourtantely i cant take it back because i tossed the box..but oh well...maybe i can use it when my hair gets longer and not let the rollers get a hot....
Maybe you can sell them, here or on ebay. I don't use steam rollers, but someone here may love to have them.
 
Yea maybe or i just might hold onto it until my hair maybe gets longer for trying different looks but with less the heat...instead of letting them get so hot that it frizzs my hair....so i might just hold onto it for awhile i'll never know when and what i may need...im happy its starting to grow back...i swear that i will never cut it in a short cut again...some us fine hair gals like myself dont do a short hair cut any justice that someone with nice thick hair would...i just didnt feel right with short hair....so hopefully im off to a happy healthy growing head of hair...
 
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