Ovation Cell Therapy/Mega-Tek Challenge

[DivaD04]

Mill Creek Keratin Condish is really a great product, one I used often before venturing into OCT. However, you must be cautious
when purchasing this product, some items sold retail do contain parabens and yet the same product sold in other retail places
do not...so 'look see' really carefully before purchasing...


Keratin Conditioner - 16 oz., (Mill Creek Botanicals)

Are you ready for Winter Break? Check out our May Blow Out Special!
Deionized Water, Stearalkonium Chloride, Glyceryl Stearate, Glycerin, Cetyl Alcohol, Cottonseed Oil, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Panthenol (provitamin B5), Balsam Peru, Olive Oil, Retinyl Palmitate (vitamin A), Cholecalciferol (vitamin D3), Tocopherol (vitamin E), Rosemary Extract, Barley Extract, Hydrolyzed RNA, Hydrolyzed DNA, Octyl Dimethyl PABA, PEG-100 Stearate, Sodium Caseinate, Sodium Hydroxide, Corn Oil, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Diazolidinyl Urea, Fragrance, Carmine, Caramel.

http://www.herballoveshop.com/product.asp?PID=6601&source=overture

Paraben Free Version:

Keratin Conditioner

by Mill Creek

Other Ingredients

Deionized Water, hydrolyzed keratin, cottonseed oil, panthenol, balsam peru, olive oil, retinyl palmitate, tocopherol, rosemary extract, barley extract, stearalkonium chloride, glyceryl stearate, glycerin, cetyl alcohol, octyl dimethyl PABA, PEG-100 stearate, sodium caseinate, sodium hydroxide, corn oil, organic aloe vera gel, citric acid, organic essential oil, caramel, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, botanical fragrance

http://www.webvitamins.com/product.aspx?id=5819&wvaid=IN&term=osmx

thx 4 posting this eshille!

 

[eshille]

I really like the strength OCT has infused into 'The Hair', I would say it
acts like a hard core protein treatment for me.

The throbbing I experience from CT days after use, however is a little
disconcerting...to say the least.. This line is some strong, serious business.

I've decided to relegate OCT to a very minor supporting role in 'The Hair's' diet,
using it once every month or two or maybe even less.

Congrats to all ladies and their progress with OCT and Mega Tek..

Have a happi Mom's Day...

 

[eshille]

thx 4 posting this eshille!

You're welcome, Diva...Happi Moms Day....

 

[DivaD04]

happy mom's day eveybody

 

[sexyeyes3616]

It is day two of oct and my hair shed even more. I really hope this ceases at some point because all of this shedding cant be healthy for my hair.

 

[Chameleonchick]

I haven't used this product or anything yet(I did order it though) but as an Esthetician when I recommend a product for the skin I always tell my clients that you might experience a few breakouts the first week or two when using a new product. Maybe some of you are shedding for the similar reasons. New product to your hair that has been used to using something different, now your hair sheds as it gets used to it. Hopefully it doesn't last longer than a week or two, but I think that would be normal.

 

[angenoir]

To Belleama, April Shower and Aggie...

Thanks for the tips ladies.

No, I have not diluted the MT with oils it but will do so today. Thanks for the tip.

I have been using Motions Moiturizing shampoo and very little of it once a week. Or sometimes I just co-wash with CON or with Motions Lavish conditioner.

I don't particularly like the ORS Olive oil but I have not yet found one that agrees with my hair. Will go in search of one tomororw.
I DC with Motions Moisture plus. Never with a protein since I started using the MT.

I also prepoo with Coconut oil.

I'll look for a good moiturizer and leave-in. I went to the BSS yesterday (I am in Paris) and the choice was a bit limited. I know they usually stock CON products but I couldn't find any and most of the other products really were not that good. So I settled for Motions. Its not great but I have used it in the past with success and to be honest my hair has never been this dry.

Thanks ladies

 

[sexyeyes3616]

This is the shedding from day two it looks worse to me. I hope the shedding eventually stops if it doesnt i am going to have to sell this product in the product exchange board.

Shedding from day 1

 

[JLove74]

This is the shedding from day two it looks worse to me. I hope the shedding eventually stops if it doesnt i am going to have to sell this product in the product exchange board.

Shedding from day 1

honestly, I think you're giving too much thought to your shedding. It's normal for us to shed up to 100 hairs per day. Yes, it may seem like a lot but it really isn't when you think of the thousands of strands of hair we have.
and if you do decide to get rid of it, you know they have a return policy, right?

 

[aprilj]

This is the shedding from day two it looks worse to me. I hope the shedding eventually stops if it doesnt i am going to have to sell this product in the product exchange board.

Shedding from day 1

I still don't think that this is a great amount of shedding. I wouldn't worry too much unless it turns into a handful of hair.

 

[sexyeyes3616]

..........

 

[belleama]

To Belleama, April Shower and Aggie...

Thanks for the tips ladies.

No, I have not diluted the MT with oils it but will do so today. Thanks for the tip.

I have been using Motions Moiturizing shampoo and very little of it once a week. Or sometimes I just co-wash with CON or with Motions Lavish conditioner.

I don't particularly like the ORS Olive oil but I have not yet found one that agrees with my hair. Will go in search of one tomororw.
I DC with Motions Moisture plus. Never with a protein since I started using the MT.

I also prepoo with Coconut oil.

I'll look for a good moiturizer and leave-in. I went to the BSS yesterday (I am in Paris) and the choice was a bit limited. I know they usually stock CON products but I couldn't find any and most of the other products really were not that good. So I settled for Motions. Its not great but I have used it in the past with success and to be honest my hair has never been this dry.

Thanks ladies

I'm glad you clarified that. I thought you were using OCT not MT. If you are using MT you definately need to add some moisturising things to it because it seems that the MT has more protien and also fewer of the "feel nice" hair ingredients.

I have added castor oil and aloe vera gel to my OCT because it was drying my hair out. When I switch over to MT I am going to add castor oil, aloe vera gel, vitamin e, maybe something else as well. We'll see.

 

[*fabulosity*]

This is the shedding from day two it looks worse to me. I hope the shedding eventually stops if it doesnt i am going to have to sell this product in the product exchange board.

Shedding from day 1

LOL! WOW! You should see my shedding hair... I think it's enough to start a head of hair for a whole other person...but it's always been like that and I've mostly had longer hair most of my life. I bought some mahinjbraj oil and hopefully it will help.

 

[Shaley]

This is the shedding from day two it looks worse to me. I hope the shedding eventually stops if it doesnt i am going to have to sell this product in the product exchange board.

Shedding from day 1

I am with you on the shedding... In the beginning I wasn't shedding that much but now and days I am shedding much more. The pic on the top looks like my shedding on wash days which is every Saturday or Sunday... I have never shed like this before... I'm starting to worry how this could be good??

I sent an email to Carlee Friday regarding the shedding and am waiting to hear back from her...

 

[sexyeyes3616]

I am with you on the shedding... In the beginning I wasn't shedding that much but now and days I am shedding much more. The pic on the top looks like my shedding on wash days which is every Saturday or Sunday... I have never shed like this before... I'm starting to worry how this could be good??

I sent an email to Carlee Friday regarding the shedding and am waiting to hear back from her...

To me its one or two things with massive shedding i am not a hair expert so i dunno but i am thinking you either wont retain any length or your hair will eventually become thin.

 

[onejamifan]

This is the shedding from day two it looks worse to me. I hope the shedding eventually stops if it doesnt i am going to have to sell this product in the product exchange board.

Shedding from day 1

In no way do I want to undermine your concern with shedding, but I don't think you should be too concerned with that amount of shedding. If that were all the hair I shed after wash day, I'd be the happiest person on this thread! I complained about shedding about a week ago, but trust me the amount that I shed was at least 10x what you got on the top pic. When you start seeing huge clumps of shedded hair, then you should be concerned, but a few strands should not be something to lose sleep over....

 

[SelfStyled]

Hi all,
I just searched "relaxer" in this thread- and got the dreaded white page. How long do you wait post relaxer to touch up? And do you think the OCT will make your hair revert slightly? TIA.

 

[carletta]

I know you want your daughter to have the most beautiful hair possible, but keep in mind the many waist length people whose hair didn't begin to take off until they were four years old. In other words they had just a couple inches of hair until their hair began to grow between the ages 3-5.
So, I wouldn't tamper with it just yet.

I agree

I sent a email to ovation asking about using this on my 12yr old.
Carlee email me back and said that the products were safe enough to use on children !

 

[belleama]

I figured it out!! Now I know whats going on with my hair and why certain sections are feeling so dry and matting up!

Its NG!!! I'm such a dummy. LOL! Because the texture of the new NG is so different than what I'm used to seeing/feeling I didn't recognize it. But looking at my dry hair I can see it is very puffy/fluffy considering that I am only 6 weeks post.

This is very promising. Off to retweak my routine.

 

[KPH]

This experience is something wonderful, new and painful. The wonderful part is that my hair has gotten thicker and I have maybe 2 - 3 strands of shedding and that's after a lot of manipulation. New is the growth on my scalp that is coming out of the scalp soft and not to wavy, and the paiful part is the new growth itself. The scalp is so tender to the touch but it doesn't look bad because of the texture. I am attempting to stretch thru end of June but the pain, the pain.

 

[tt8]

WELCOME TO THE CHALLENGE!!!!
isisalisa
VWVixxen
missprincess011
yodie
aurora3140
shocol
Aggie
april shower
SelfStyled

 

[belleama]

Hi all,
I just searched "relaxer" in this thread- and got the dreaded white page. How long do you wait post relaxer to touch up? And do you think the OCT will make your hair revert slightly? TIA.

Relaxed hair does not revert. If you see hairs that are not straight it is because they were underprocessed or new growth. Those are the two options for hair that has been relaxed.

 

[SelfStyled]

Relaxed hair does not revert. If you see hairs that are not straight it is because they were underprocessed or new growth. Those are the two options for hair that has been relaxed.

I know that relaxed hair does not revert per se, however there are some opinions that you should wait a week or 2 before using a heavy protein- that's why I was asking. But thank's for your reply though. I think my question was confusing.

 

[belleama]

I know that relaxed hair does not revert per se, however there are some opinions that you should wait a week or 2 before using a heavy protein- that's why I was asking. But thank's for your reply though. I think my question was confusing.

Okay this part of your question is also confusing. Heavy protien right before or right after a relaxer is actually good for your hair. The relaxer breaks down the strands. Protien builds them back up.

I think you may be talking about the damage that can be done to your scalp if you use certain products right before a relaxer like sulfur. If you are using any sulfur based products like sulfur 8 or BT then you definately want to stop use atleast a week, ideally two weeks, before the relaxer. I don't know all of the ins and outs of the why but I do know that the sulfur opens up the pores or thins the surface of the scalp. That makes it easier for your skin to burn from the chemicals in the relaxer.

As far as I can tell OCT/MT themselves do not really thin the scalp at all so it should be safe to do up until relaxer day. But as always be wary. If you are one of the ladies who has been experiencing burning, soreness, or itching with your usage perhaps it would be wise to stop using the product for 3 days to a week before your relaxe service. Really I am not sure that would be necessary though because no one has come forward to say they experienced burning during their relaxer yet. So I am going to assume that for most it should not be a problem at all.

I hope this helps and that I didn't just confuse the issue.

 

[LilBrownied]

WELCOME TO THE CHALLENGE!!!!
isisalisa
VWVixxen
missprincess011
yodie
aurora3140
shocol
Aggie
april shower
SelfStyled

Hey I wanted to be added too!

 

[Keen]

Ladies, please comment on my new method. My 8 oz MT bottle last me about 5 weeks. I have now switched to OTC. It is too expensive for me to use it up so quick like MT. OTC website said to apply it on wet scalp. Well, I don't co-wash daily. I only wash once or twice a week. So I decided to mix OTC with water, a mixture of 1:1. I'm thinking the water I add is substitution for the water that would have been on my scalp. Plus I'm expecting my OTC to last twice as long if not longer.

What do you think? I know some ladies mix MT with other stuff but is anyone else mixing with water?

 

[Diya]

I would like to be added to this challenge. I started using Ovation (cell therapy only) on April 28th.

 

[nycutiepie]

Ladies, please comment on my new method. My 8 oz MT bottle last me about 5 weeks. I have now switched to OTC. It is too expensive for me to use it up so quick like MT. OTC website said to apply it on wet scalp. Well, I don't co-wash daily. I only wash once or twice a week. So I decided to mix OTC with water, a mixture of 1:1. I'm thinking the water I add is substitution for the water that would have been on my scalp. Plus I'm expecting my OTC to last twice as long if not longer.

What do you think? I know some ladies mix MT with other stuff but is anyone else mixing with water?

Keen - I'm not sure about MT because I've never used it but I've been using OCT for 4 1/2 weeks and I have not even used 1/2 of the bottle. I wash 1 - 2X per week just like you. You do not need to be heavy handed with OCT because the stuff spreads easily. I use it at least every day/every other day on a DRY SCALP ONLY. I also use it on wash day for a few mins on length and scalp. When I use it on a dry scalp, I sometimes add a LITTLE bit of water to help it spread more and I apply it with a pointy tip applicator to my SCALP only. Based on my usage, the bottle will probably last me another 1 1/2 - 2 months so I can't see how anyone can run through it that quickly unless you are OD'ing. I have crazy ng based on this method so using more is not necessary IMHO. HTH!

 

[gorgeoushair]

Mill Creek Keratin Condish is really a great product, one I used often before venturing into OCT. However, you must be cautious
when purchasing this product, some items sold retail do contain parabens and yet the same product sold in other retail places
do not...so 'look see' really carefully before purchasing...


Keratin Conditioner - 16 oz., (Mill Creek Botanicals)

Are you ready for Winter Break? Check out our May Blow Out Special!
Deionized Water, Stearalkonium Chloride, Glyceryl Stearate, Glycerin, Cetyl Alcohol, Cottonseed Oil, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Panthenol (provitamin B5), Balsam Peru, Olive Oil, Retinyl Palmitate (vitamin A), Cholecalciferol (vitamin D3), Tocopherol (vitamin E), Rosemary Extract, Barley Extract, Hydrolyzed RNA, Hydrolyzed DNA, Octyl Dimethyl PABA, PEG-100 Stearate, Sodium Caseinate, Sodium Hydroxide, Corn Oil, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Diazolidinyl Urea, Fragrance, Carmine, Caramel.

http://www.herballoveshop.com/product.asp?PID=6601&source=overture

Paraben Free Version:

Keratin Conditioner

by Mill Creek

Other Ingredients

Deionized Water, hydrolyzed keratin, cottonseed oil, panthenol, balsam peru, olive oil, retinyl palmitate, tocopherol, rosemary extract, barley extract, stearalkonium chloride, glyceryl stearate, glycerin, cetyl alcohol, octyl dimethyl PABA, PEG-100 stearate, sodium caseinate, sodium hydroxide, corn oil, organic aloe vera gel, citric acid, organic essential oil, caramel, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, botanical fragrance

http://www.webvitamins.com/product.aspx?id=5819&wvaid=IN&term=osmx

How does this compare to OCT and MT? Some of the ingredients looks similar to MT......

 

[Keen]

Keen - I'm not sure about MT because I've never used it but I've been using OCT for 4 1/2 weeks and I have not even used 1/2 of the bottle. I wash 1 - 2X per week just like you. You do not need to be heavy handed with OCT because the stuff spreads easily. I use it at least every day/every other day on a DRY SCALP ONLY. I also use it on wash day for a few mins on length and scalp. When I use it on a dry scalp, I sometimes add a LITTLE bit of water to help it spread more and I apply it with a pointy tip applicator to my SCALP only. Based on my usage, the bottle will probably last me another 1 1/2 - 2 months so I can't see how anyone can run through it that quickly unless you are OD'ing. I have crazy ng based on this method so using more is not necessary IMHO. HTH!

Thanks for the advice. Another reason I decided to dilute it is so I don't have that white residue. I find that I use less of the dilute version. I apply it with my finger tip.

Are you adding OTC to your ends also or do you just use it on your ends during wash days? I'm planning on adding it to my ends the night before I wash.