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I was wondering...I am a nerd and sometimes I like to analyze upc barcodes and labels :perplexed Weird, I know but hey, everyone has a hobby. I am using the OCT and was looking at the upc label and first off wondered why there was even a barcode if they supposedly don't sell this line anywhere else (as in brick and mortar stores) unless I misheard what Carly said during the interview on the Fox news station. Think of lines like Oyin (they don't; the only other online store they sell on is naturallycurly.com) and Qhemet Biologics (they have upc codes because they sell in actual stores outside of their online site).

I remember when I worked at Ann Taylor for a short while, we were taught how to read our upc barcodes. It was pretty interesting :rolleyes:

Anyway I was wondering something. To the left of the barcode on my OCT, the numbers 072607 appear. I was thinking, 'Is this the date when it was made'? I hope not :sad: For those who are using OCT, what numbers appear to the left of your barcode? It could be the item number. Now if someone had one like 131313, I'll know that it is some sort of identification number that only they know the meaning to. Who knows. Darn me for being the analytical type :look: Thanks!
 
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I was wondering...I am a nerd and sometimes I like to analyze upc barcodes and labels :perplexed Weird, I know but hey, everyone has a hobby. I am using the OCT and was looking at the upc label and first off wondered why there was even a barcode if they supposedly don't sell this line anywhere else (as in brick and mortar stores) unless I misheard what Carly said during the interview on the Fox news station. Think of lines like Oyin (they don't; the only other online store they sell on is naturallycurly.com) and Qhemet Biologics (they have upc codes because they sell in actual stores outside of their online site).

I remember when I worked at Ann Taylor for a short while, we were taught how to read our upc barcodes. It was pretty interesting :rolleyes:

Anyway I was wondering something. To the left of the barcode on my OCT, the numbers 072607 appear. I was thinking, 'Is this the date when it was made'? I hope not :sad: For those who are using OCT, what numbers appear to the left of your barcode? It could be the item number. Now if someone had one like 131313, I'll know that it is some sort of identification number that only they know the meaning to. Who knows. Darn me for being the analytical type :look: Thanks!

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I was wondering...I am a nerd and sometimes I like to analyze upc barcodes and labels :perplexed Weird, I know but hey, everyone has a hobby. I am using the OCT and was looking at the upc label and first off wondered why there was even a barcode if they supposedly don't sell this line anywhere else (as in brick and mortar stores) unless I misheard what Carly said during the interview on the Fox news station. Think of lines like Oyin (they don't; the only other online store they sell on is naturallycurly.com) and Qhemet Biologics (they have upc codes because they sell in actual stores outside of their online site).

I remember when I worked at Ann Taylor for a short while, we were taught how to read our upc barcodes. It was pretty interesting :rolleyes:

Anyway I was wondering something. To the left of the barcode on my OCT, the numbers 072607 appear. I was thinking, 'Is this the date when it was made'? I hope not :sad: For those who are using OCT, what numbers appear to the left of your barcode? It could be the item number. Now if someone had one like 131313, I'll know that it is some sort of identification number that only they know the meaning to. Who knows. Darn me for being the analytical type :look: Thanks!

That sounds so funny, but hey, nothing wrong with having an inquiry mind. I checked out the numbers on all of my products and they are as follows:

Ovation Cell Therapy Pack - 072607
Mega-Tek Rejuvenator - 041307
Mega-Tek Rebuilder - 121406

I guess a good question would be how long is the shelf life if these are dates of when the product was made.

As far as them having a UPC code, remember Eqyss is the parent company and they sell to distributors. They might as well put UPC codes on the Ovation products. Who knows, they maybe looking to distribute Ovation once they reach a certain amount of sales.
 
That sounds so funny, but hey, nothing wrong with having an inquiry mind. I checked out the numbers on all of my products and they are as follows:

Ovation Cell Therapy Pack - 072607
Mega-Tek Rejuvenator - 041307
Mega-Tek Rebuilder - 121406

I guess a good question would be how long is the shelf life if these are dates of when the product was made.

As far as them having a UPC code, remember Eqyss is the parent company and they sell to distributors. They might as well put UPC codes on the Ovation products. Who knows, they maybe looking to distribute Ovation once they reach a certain amount of sales.

That makes sense. Thanks :grin: After I posted, I thought that it could be for inventory purposes - to scan product into whatever system they use. Or if they use an outside company to do their inventory, it would be easier for them to have barcodes to scan.
 
That makes sense. Thanks :grin: After I posted, I thought that it could be for inventory purposes - to scan product into whatever system they use. Or if they use an outside company to do their inventory, it would be easier for them to have barcodes to scan.

That would be a good guess too. Hmm :scratchch now I'm still wondering how long is the shelf life. I want my product to be potent for growth. :lachen:
 
If people are put off using this product because of shedding then don't stop using it. I too had shedding, I too have great growth and thickness from this product. It seem that this is a short lived initial side effect. Why it happens I dunno, maybe the rapid new growth, but it doesn't last long and returns to normal after a few weeks. I was kinda thinking maybe this stuff doesn't agree with me.

Breakage is what you nee to be more concerned with not shedding. I use MT daily on the scalp and wash once a week. I have 12 weeks worth of growth in 5 weeks. I have over and inch in the back, never had that much in 4 weeks alone.

Give it 4-5 weeks of constant use. Trust me you will see a difference. ;)
 
I'm a lot fuzzier, which is why I'm going to try Sabino moisture block. I don't know if you saw the link, but they're giving out free samples at www.gotfrizz.com and you just do it online or call them and tell them that you heard about it here (I'm hope we can negotiate a discount in the future if we like the product and I called and spoke to the owner, and he was too cool). Anyways, I plan to use it and flat iron my hair for the week. It's almost like a humctant as it seals in any moisture you put in during the wash, and blocks out any from the environment until your next wash. I'm trying it out today and will post results on the sabino post. Reason, I assume if it can block out moisture, maybe the part of my hair that's touched by my MT/OCT mis, despite my putting it on the scalp, will not revert as fast. Then it won't be too fuzzy until my next wash. lala pm'd me about it and I thank her. She has waist length hair and loves it. I think it could work on anyone who doesn't want the frizz mess or reverting...so I'm ecstatic.
But to answer your question, I'm definitely a frizz head so to speak and can't keep being so. I'm a student in the masters program for psychology, but I'm also an actress. As such, I have to look on point all the time if I have an audition coming up. So I want my hair to grow, but I don't want to look like a frizz ball. It says it also helps when natural to keep the frizz out and the curls defined, so I'm really excited about the product. I'm keeping my hopes up. If this works, I'm going to thank lala because bless her!


Thanks for the recommendation, luckiestdestiny. This may be stupid, but I have a Q: . I have dry hair, so, if Sabino it blocks moisture in general, will it block any moisturizer I put on my hair until I wash? Please chime in anyone who has an idea...
 
I have a idea I am going to take a small section of hair and dye it blonde just so I can see the growth rate of the hair. What do you ladies think. I had blonde streaks before it was really cute on me.:spinning:
 
I have a idea I am going to take a small section of hair and dye it blonde just so I can see the growth rate of the hair. What do you ladies think. I had blonde streaks before it was really cute on me.:spinning:

If it's just for the growth rate then I wouldn't bother. But it's your hair.
 
No response from Ovation as of yet to my e-mail I sent them. Just plain rude ifyou ask me, wanna take people's money but can't answer some questions and I know some of the ladies on this board have had their e-mails answered between the time I sent mine out until now.

I'm going to sleep on it then send my e-mail in the morning, because if I e-mail them now I'll just be extra pissy.

Have you received a response from Ovation yet?
 
Have you received a response from Ovation yet?

You know something I didn't receive a response...thanks for reminding me. I'm gonna bump up my e-mail right now and ask them where the hell it is.

Hello

I wrote to you approximately 12 days ago and have yet to receive a response, or even a notification that you've received my e-mail. I'd appreciate if you can get back to me as soon as possible. I as well as an online forum full of ladies are awaiting a response.

Kind Regards
Naomi Miller
 
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Thanks for the recommendation, luckiestdestiny. This may be stupid, but I have a Q: . I have dry hair, so, if Sabino it blocks moisture in general, will it block any moisturizer I put on my hair until I wash? Please chime in anyone who has an idea...
Okay, so this is what I heard from the creator directly, because I called and happened to call at a time when he was in (luckily). I feel sorry for him because I drilled away at him for like 30 minutes, because I knew I'd never get a chance like that again. How often does anyone get to speak to the creator? Anyways, so this is what I found out. When you apply your moisture and seal...normally it evaporates in a few hours w/o the product. Just on a normal everyday basis, as all moisture is water based. What his product does is form a seal so that it retains the moisture you put in there until the next wash. It maintains the perfect moisture level is what I mean. So anyways, that's why we have to put on product everyday, because the air, is sucking it up. So with his product, he says when you shampoo, and dc, leave a little moisturizing conditioner in, then (I explained my hairtype is 4a w/ a little 3c so he told me what to do for african american hair) put in your other moisture (mine is qhemet biologics) seal with your oil (do everything you normally would), then apply the moisture block. All that good stuff will not evaporate, it will retain a perfect moisture balance until you wash your hair. When you wash, the product and all the stuff you put in will of course wash out too. I was very concerned myself as I have super dry hair (I have thyroid disease and it sucks out all the moisture in my hair so I have to be very careful). Hope that helps...
 
I have a idea I am going to take a small section of hair and dye it blonde just so I can see the growth rate of the hair. What do you ladies think. I had blonde streaks before it was really cute on me.:spinning:
All I can say is wow. If you like it go for it...but wow that's commitement!
 
Okay, so this is what I heard from the creator directly, because I called and happened to call at a time when he was in (luckily). I feel sorry for him because I drilled away at him for like 30 minutes, because I knew I'd never get a chance like that again. How often does anyone get to speak to the creator? Anyways, so this is what I found out. When you apply your moisture and seal...normally it evaporates in a few hours w/o the product. Just on a normal everyday basis, as all moisture is water based. What his product does is form a seal so that it retains the moisture you put in there until the next wash. It maintains the perfect moisture level is what I mean. So anyways, that's why we have to put on product everyday, because the air, is sucking it up. So with his product, he says when you shampoo, and dc, leave a little moisturizing conditioner in, then (I explained my hairtype is 4a w/ a little 3c so he told me what to do for african american hair) put in your other moisture (mine is qhemet biologics) seal with your oil (do everything you normally would), then apply the moisture block. All that good stuff will not evaporate, it will retain a perfect moisture balance until you wash your hair. When you wash, the product and all the stuff you put in will of course wash out too. I was very concerned myself as I have super dry hair (I have thyroid disease and it sucks out all the moisture in my hair so I have to be very careful). Hope that helps...

I'm sorry luckiestdestiny, but this post totally confused me. Can you put in point form, step by step so I can follow it properly please? I read it a couple of times and I still can't follow what it's saying and I really want to understand what the creator of OCT had to say about usage for AA hair. Thanks honey.
 
If people are put off using this product because of shedding then don't stop using it. I too had shedding, I too have great growth and thickness from this product. It seem that this is a short lived initial side effect. Why it happens I dunno, maybe the rapid new growth, but it doesn't last long and returns to normal after a few weeks. I was kinda thinking maybe this stuff doesn't agree with me.

Breakage is what you nee to be more concerned with not shedding. I use MT daily on the scalp and wash once a week. I have 12 weeks worth of growth in 5 weeks. I have over and inch in the back, never had that much in 4 weeks alone.

Give it 4-5 weeks of constant use. Trust me you will see a difference. ;)

Thanks for the encouragement LD.
 
I'm sorry luckiestdestiny, but this post totally confused me. Can you put in point form, step by step so I can follow it properly please? I read it a couple of times and I still can't follow what it's saying and I really want to understand what the creator of OCT had to say about usage for AA hair. Thanks honey.
I'm probably confusing you. Shakesha22 asked about a product I was going to use with my OCT/ Mega tek. I told them about that product and how I was going to use it. I was going to wash, deep condition, leave in a little of my conditioner (not oct/mega tek) and then put moisture, seal with oil, and apply the moisture block product. It would keep the moisture at the optimal level as it locks in all the moisture we put in (moisture block). Then what I'm going to do is grease with my OCT/ Mega tek mix on my scalp, without worrying about my hair reverting (I'm natural). Or at least, that's what I'm hoping it will do as I've heard great things about it and am trying it. Sorry for the confusion...
 
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Thanks for the encouragement LD.

Thanks, LD :kiss: I have been shedding quite a bit as well. I mean, shedding everywhere. So I will keep at it. I know that it's the initial stage where some shedding is expected, so I'll keep using.

I mix the OCT with MT, adding jojoba and grapeseed oil with a little Rosemary and apply directly to my scalp everyday or every other day.

I won't give up. I am getting length but I want thickness and fullness moreso than anything else. I'm finally full APL so I'm happy but I still want the thickness. My hair is so very fine!:nono:
 
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With what I'm reading here about initial shedding I have to ask, if your already shedding from say stress or illness or some reason, should you start using oct or should you wait??
 
Okay, I have been lurking, lurking (while waiting for my Oct delivery, hopefully May 8th) , any ways. The shedding thing is bugging me out because, like many others, I also have fine hair. I really would like to improve thickness, which isn't going to happen if I am shedding way my progress..

I think some suggestions for the shedding:

  • Start low and go slow. I know we all want to just dive in and start using OCT/MT asap and every day, but I would start at an every other day application to see how my scalp/hair responds and then you can reevaluate.
  • For those with fine hair, be careful with applying to your hair. May be leave on while just in the shower, for 3-5 minutes. This is a decent protein treatment we're talking about. Not realy sure If I would apply to the lenghts of my hair more than once a week, and certainly not a leave in.
  • As has already been mentioned, mixing your OCT/MT with mahabhringraj oil or bhringrag oil as both these oils have properties to cause less hair fall.
  • Don't introduce any new products into your regimen while initiating the OCT/MT that way you can deduce what is causing what.
  • If you are noticing shedding increase your washes. If you are a weekly washer consider bumping to washing every 3 or 4 days. Sometimes a clean scalp will shed less hair.
  • Stay on top of your moisture. Make sure you Deep Condition with your most moisturzing deep conditioners.

That's all I can think of for now. If anyone else has found a way to reduce shedding please let me know, because I am really hoping that this works for me:rolleyes:. Good luck everyone, TT8, I will PM you as soon as I get my OCT, so I can officially be part of the challenge.
 
Okay, I have been lurking, lurking (while waiting for my Oct delivery, hopefully May 8th) , any ways. The shedding thing is bugging me out because, like many others, I also have fine hair. I really would like to improve thickness, which isn't going to happen if I am shedding way my progress..

I think some suggestions for the shedding:

  • Start low and go slow. I know we all want to just dive in and start using OCT/MT asap and every day, but I would start at an every other day application to see how my scalp/hair responds and then you can reevaluate.
  • For those with fine hair, be careful with applying to your hair. May be leave on while just in the shower, for 3-5 minutes. This is a decent protein treatment we're talking about. Not realy sure If I would apply to the lenghts of my hair more than once a week, and certainly not a leave in.
  • As has already been mentioned, mixing your OCT/MT with mahabhringraj oil or bhringrag oil as both these oils have properties to cause less hair fall.
  • Don't introduce any new products into your regimen while initiating the OCT/MT that way you can deduce what is causing what.
  • If you are noticing shedding increase your washes. If you are a weekly washer consider bumping to washing every 3 or 4 days. Sometimes a clean scalp will shed less hair.
  • Stay on top of your moisture. Make sure you Deep Condition with your most moisturzing deep conditioners.
That's all I can think of for now. If anyone else has found a way to reduce shedding please let me know, because I am really hoping that this works for me:rolleyes:. Good luck everyone, TT8, I will PM you as soon as I get my OCT, so I can officially be part of the challenge.

I've been using MT for a week now and I've actually seen a decrease in shedding. Before MT, I had a significant amount of shedding. Now I'm seeing about 10 strands. I part my hair and apply the MT (straight) on my scalp and follow with Silk Elements Leave In Moisturizing Cream and Nexxus Humectress (to the length) as a leave in. I've been doing this daily and haven't had any issues. The first day that I used the MT, I didn't follow through with a moisturizer and right away I noticed that my hair appeared dry and rough. So with all this being said...it's a great product but you really have to follow up with some type of moisturizer.

This morning I tried Proclaim Activator Gel instead of the Humectress and everything's good so far :yep:.
 
:perplexed I feel you on this one, I am having to forego MT for the next 2 weeks to try and track my progress and get a hold on this shedding. I washed this week and I had more hair come out than I had in a long time (and I used garlic oil).....

Shedding is what I'm trying to stop and this has started it up again...I don't like that. I can't lose anymore hair (alopecia survivor). I keep thinking that I may have to add MT to oil, instead of the other way around. You may be like me, and have too much protein in your hair already and therefore this is protein overload. It could be that others have less protein in their hair, so they aren't experiencing this to the degree you and I are. You can PM me and we can discuss this a little more and brainstorm solutions. But, I don't want to give MT up all together because I know it works.

Those that are dealing with sheddiing, feel free to PM me and we can troubleshoot, find a mix that works with MT so that we can have happy and healthy hair growing, too! :yep:

Coffee, your hair looks great!


I have been applying the MT on my scalp for almost 2 weeks now and I feel my ng is very thick. I am only 9 weeks post and I don't know if I'll be able to hold out until June 1st.

On the downside, I just finished washing my hair and I had sooo much shedding :wallbash:. I mean, the reason why I joined LHCF was to find a way to curb the shedding. I know that the MT will cause shedding at the beginning, but this is craziness!! I had cowashed on Thursday and airdried in a bun (had not combed or brushed hair since), so that might have been accumulated shedded hair, but I was like:cry:. Back to square 1 with the shedding. I did not use my garlic this week, so I guess I'll have to add that in next time.

Another thing is that I've been trying to figure out my moisture/protein balance because I want to curb down on breakage. I had been DC with Humectress or 2 +1 and my hair had started feeling mushy when wet, so I went ahead and put together a concoction of 5 min Aphogee Intensive Kerating Reconstructor with a dominican condish I have (anti-caida maravisus :barf:) in order to up my protein. I added some Suave Humectant with about a 1/8 teaspoon Vitamin E for a little moisture. I used that on my ends and the MT on my scalp. I DC'd for about 20 minutes heat +20 no heat and my hair was HARD AS A ROCK!! It felt fine while I was rinsing and detangling (that's where most of the shedding happened) but after I towel dried it, my hair felt like straw. When I started roller setting, my comb could barely make it through and that is after using Lacio Lacio, Humectress (as leave-in) and some LTR...

So now I'm thinking I gave my hair a protein overload and I am shedding like crazy...

I know this is abot trial and error but I feel like I can't get it right. The MT is making my hair grow and thicken up, but it has increased my shedding and I still can't figure out my protein/moisture balance...Sorry for the long post and complaining, it's just that I though I was making progress so far and suddenly I feel like am facing a set back....
 
:perplexed I feel you on this one, I am having to forego MT for the next 2 weeks to try and track my progress and get a hold on this shedding. I washed this week and I had more hair come out than I had in a long time (and I used garlic oil).....

Shedding is what I'm trying to stop and this has started it up again...I don't like that. I can't lose anymore hair (alopecia survivor). I keep thinking that I may have to add MT to oil, instead of the other way around. You may be like me, and have too much protein in your hair already and therefore this is protein overload. It could be that others have less protein in their hair, so they aren't experiencing this to the degree you and I are. You can PM me and we can discuss this a little more and brainstorm solutions. But, I don't want to give MT up all together because I know it works.

Those that are dealing with sheddiing, feel free to PM me and we can troubleshoot, find a mix that works with MT so that we can have happy and healthy hair growing, too! :yep:

If the MT is working as it should nothing is going to stop the shedding. It does cease, but in the meantime you need to be patient, because you could be making a mix that makes it worse.

The only MT downside in a lot of cases is shedding. It's a common side effect with growing hair
 
If the MT is working as it should nothing is going to stop the shedding. It does cease, but in the meantime you need to be patient, because you could be making a mix that makes it worse.

The only MT downside in a lot of cases is shedding. It's a common side effect with growing hair
I'm not shedding and I have mega newgrowth...so does my puppy (I'm sure you saw pics):yawn:. I used majabringaraj. The days I didn't, I saw a little shedding, the days I added it, it stopped.
 
I'm not shedding and I have mega newgrowth...so does my puppy (I'm sure you saw pics):yawn:. I used majabringaraj. The days I didn't, I saw a little shedding, the days I added it, it stopped.

I have mega new growth also, but shed in the beginning. SOme people shed and others didn't but new growth both seem to have. People that are worrying/stressing over shedding can also make it worse by worrying about it. I just put it in a protective style and paid it no mind.
 
Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll, I sent you a pm already.

I am not going to stress it too much right now. I will take your advice, LondonDiva and put my hair in a protective style and cut back a bit on the MT. Instead of every day, maybe just 3x/week and on wash day. No more airdrying for me! See if that makes a difference. I'll keep away from DC with anything that contains protein and up the moisture. Hopefully that will do the trick. I'll keep y'all posted on what happens over the next week. Hopefully the shedding will ease up and the great growth will continue :)
 
Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll, I sent you a pm already.

I am not going to stress it too much right now. I will take your advice, LondonDiva and put my hair in a protective style and cut back a bit on the MT. Instead of every day, maybe just 3x/week and on wash day. No more airdrying for me! See if that makes a difference. I'll keep away from DC with anything that contains protein and up the moisture. Hopefully that will do the trick. I'll keep y'all posted on what happens over the next week. Hopefully the shedding will ease up and the great growth will continue :)

I'd advise (but of course it's up to you) use the MT daily and if you find it drying add a lil castor oil to combat dryness. I think the more you use it the better the results. I just take my hair down to apply then put it back in the protective style and don't comb it until it's wet on hair wash day.
 
Okay, I have been lurking, lurking (while waiting for my Oct delivery, hopefully May 8th) , any ways. The shedding thing is bugging me out because, like many others, I also have fine hair. I really would like to improve thickness, which isn't going to happen if I am shedding way my progress..

I think some suggestions for the shedding:
  • Start low and go slow. I know we all want to just dive in and start using OCT/MT asap and every day, but I would start at an every other day application to see how my scalp/hair responds and then you can reevaluate.
  • For those with fine hair, be careful with applying to your hair. May be leave on while just in the shower, for 3-5 minutes. This is a decent protein treatment we're talking about. Not realy sure If I would apply to the lenghts of my hair more than once a week, and certainly not a leave in.
  • As has already been mentioned, mixing your OCT/MT with mahabhringraj oil or bhringrag oil as both these oils have properties to cause less hair fall.
  • Don't introduce any new products into your regimen while initiating the OCT/MT that way you can deduce what is causing what.
  • If you are noticing shedding increase your washes. If you are a weekly washer consider bumping to washing every 3 or 4 days. Sometimes a clean scalp will shed less hair.
  • Stay on top of your moisture. Make sure you Deep Condition with your most moisturzing deep conditioners.
That's all I can think of for now. If anyone else has found a way to reduce shedding please let me know, because I am really hoping that this works for me:rolleyes:. Good luck everyone, TT8, I will PM you as soon as I get my OCT, so I can officially be part of the challenge.

Really good advice for everyone, thanks. :yep:

I did not experience any of the shedding nor breaking issues with my first and only application of the complete OCT system, however I'm battling other issues
and have stepped up the moisture/deep conditioning game.

I have very fine hair also and decided to put CT on my scalp only...very, very carefully. I mixed it with a tiny bit of water for ease of spreading. This morning
as I was rinsing my hair I could smell the chemicals as they were being released. I think it's impossible NOT to get some of this stuff on the hair line, hence
when washing with my regular products, I'm getting additional protein rinsing down my hair shaft anyway :perplexed which only compounds my problem.

I think that's why january keeps saying follow the complete system's directions, don't make up your own process and there will be no problems. :yep:

I do like the effects the system has had on those portions of my hair which were still in a relaxed state and I can attest to those areas being quite
nice, fluffy, curly and silky when dry, the strength in my strands as a result of the product has been phenomenal. :yep:
 
I'd advise (but of course it's up to you) use the MT daily and if you find it drying add a lil castor oil to combat dryness. I think the more you use it the better the results. I just take my hair down to apply then put it back in the protective style and don't comb it until it's wet on hair wash day.

I am going to do the 3x/week this week just to try it out. If I think it is getting better, then I might increase to 4x and so on and so forth. I do want to add some honeyquat to the MT for moisture, but I don't know exactly what amount I should put into my bottle. I assume I have about 13-14 oz left in it.... any ideas???
 
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