Ovation Cell Therapy/Mega-Tek Challenge

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The ingredients I listed were for mega tek pet coat rebuilder. Almost in the exact order as Ovation. I guess the order differs as to the amount of each ingredient. My mega tech is what I listed before. Let me recheck my ovation bottle...Ovation is not in the same order. This is actually ovations order
Deionized Water, Glyceryl Stearate, Stearalkonium Chloride, Cetearyl Alcohol, Peg-40 Castor oil, Centrimonium Chloride, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Panthenol, Tocopheryl Acetate, Dm Dm Hydantoin, Methylparaben,Propylparaben, Tetrasodium EDTA, Fragrance

This is mega tek coat rebuilder
Deionized Water, Stearalkonium Chloride, Glyceryl Stearate, Cetaryl Alcohol, Peg-40 Caster Oil, Cetrimonium Chloride, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Pathenol, tocopheryl Acetate, DM DM Hydantoin, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Tetrasodium EDTA, Fragrance

I looked at my bottles. So the Ovation listing you have is not in the right order. At least, not from what I have on my bottle. They are almost identiacal with the exception of the order of importance: How much of each ingredient I guess. Only Steralkonium Chloride, and Glyceryl Stearate are reversed in each product.

So let me know if I got this straight, the Mega Tek Coat Rebuilder for Pets in the 2 oz container has the identical ingredients as the Ovation Cell Teck except for the order of ingredients is slightly different??? :blush:

If this is the case what's the price difference 12 oz of the the Ovation vs 6 - 2 oz jars of the Mega-Tek Pet Coat Rebuilder??
 
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So let me know if I got this straight, the Mega Tek Coat Rebuilder for Pets in the 2 oz container has the identical ingredients as the Ovation Cell Teck except there order of ingredients is slightly different??? :blush:

If this is the case what's the price difference 12 oz of the the Ovation vs 6 - 2 oz jars of the Mega-Tek Pet Coat Rebuilder??

I think I paid $12 for my 2 oz. jar of Coat Rebuilder. This means that the Ovation is a better buy.

Dang! I thought I was gonna save some $
 
Ooh, no. I - I don't know about that. Henna can act like a protein on hair, and unless your hair is REALLY in need of it - I don't think it would be something that's a good idea to add in.

I'm supposed to be doing a henna treatment next weekend, and I'm seriously debating with myself - I REALLY don't want to over-protein my hair, and I'm really feeling like I'm closer to the protein side of the line than I normally am....
I would agree with your statement. Since we are natural, we are walking a fine line with the protein moisture balance. So far so good, it's only been since Saturday for me but I'm making extra sure to keep my moisture up and I have had any sheding or breakage so far. In fact my hair feels strong. I personally am not going to do henna now. I don't want to mess up my balance. I used Nexxus Ensure to make sure my Ph stays low as well. (I noticed the cream rinse had citric acid or something to help smooth the cuticle so I'm trying to mimic that.
 
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I would agree with your statement. Since we are natural, we are walking a fine line with the protein moisture balance. So far so good, it's only been since Saturday for me but I'm making extra sure to keep my moisture up and I have had any shedding or breakage so far. In fact my hair feel strong. I personally am not going to do henna now. I don't want to mess up my balance. I used Nexuss Ensure to make sure my Ph stays low as well. (I noticed the cream rinse had citric acid or something to help smooth the cuticle so I'm trying to mimic that.

Seeeeee. So you've definitely decided to skip the henna?

I used MT on my scalp last night, and my hair was feeling - a little hard/dry, so I used a TINY bit of the Cream Rinse directly on my dry hair once I was done - and WOW. You REALLY only need a tiny, tiny, tiny bit of this stuff (less than a silver dollar sized for my WHOLE head), and today, my hair is so soft I can't stop touching it!

And, I joined the twice weekly DC challenge too, to try to keep my moisture up.

I'm hoping by the time next weekend rolls around, the combo of those things (using the Cream Rinse when my hair feels esp. dry, and the DC's), will have my hair a little more moisturized, and I'll do the henna.

If I'm the least bit doubtful though, I'm going to skip it. The yogurt treatment had me madly moisturizing afterwards - I'm not trying to lose all my progress messing around with henna before I 'really' need to.
 
Seeeeee. So you've definitely decided to skip the henna?

I used MT on my scalp last night, and my hair was feeling - a little hard/dry, so I used a TINY bit of the Cream Rinse directly on my dry hair once I was done - and WOW. You REALLY only need a tiny, tiny, tiny bit of this stuff (less than a silver dollar sized for my WHOLE head), and today, my hair is so soft I can't stop touching it!

And, I joined the twice weekly DC challenge too, to try to keep my moisture up.

I'm hoping by the time next weekend rolls around, the combo of those things (using the Cream Rinse when my hair feels esp. dry, and the DC's), will have my hair a little more moisturized, and I'll do the henna.

If I'm the least bit doubtful though, I'm going to skip it. The yogurt treatment had me madly moisturizing afterwards - I'm not trying to lose all my progress messing around with henna before I 'really' need to.
I don't have the magical cream rinse... I'm just using the Mega-Tek and my shampoo/co-wash/moisture conditioner so I'm a little more cautious. I also diluted my MT a little bit as you did with oils. I'm just chicken. You may be just fine with the henna and that cream rinse...that stuff sounds like it's the bomb!!

Now tell me about your yogurt treatment... I was thinking of doing one of those, what do you use?
 
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Ooh, no. I - I don't know about that. Henna can act like a protein on hair, and unless your hair is REALLY in need of it - I don't think it would be something that's a good idea to add in.

I'm supposed to be doing a henna treatment next weekend, and I'm seriously debating with myself - I REALLY don't want to over-protein my hair, and I'm really feeling like I'm closer to the protein side of the line than I normally am....

Maybe someone should PM Sareca. She henn's her hair and she's using OCT. I'm sure she would have some insight on the effects of both henna and OCT in our reggie. I usually henna my hair as well so I'm interested to know the answer to this question as well. JK, can you PM Sareca and ask her what are her thoughts please?
 
I don't have the magical cream rinse... I'm just using the Mega-Tek and my shampoo/co-wash/moisture conditioner so I'm a little more cautious. I also diluted my MT a little bit as you did with oils. I'm just chicken. You may be just fine with the henna and that cream rinse...that stuff sounds like it's the bomb!!

Now tell me about your yogurt treatment... I was thinking of doing one of those, what do you use?

This is the Eqyss stuff too - the 'Cloud Nine' rinse? I'm REALLY happy with it. :yep:

Urm. I use 1/2 cup of yogurt, 1/2 cup of coconut milk, some molasses, juice from a lime, and thickIt (this food starch to make it thicker) and slap it on my hair. It's VERY protein rich - my hair was CRAZY strong for a day or so, then it got unhappy and started breaking a little, so I had to swoop in with a midweek moisture treatment.

Maybe someone should PM Sareca. She henn's her hair and she's using OCT. I'm sure she would have some insight on the effects of both henna and OCT in our reggie. I usually henna my hair as well so I'm interested to know the answer to this question as well. JK, can you PM Sareca and ask her what are her thoughts please?

Well, see, but Sareca is texturized - which means I would expect her hair to have a higher protein requirement than either me or AtlantaJJ, since we are both natural. I think folks with chemically treated hair don't have to be QUITE as nervous/on top of insuring they don't over protein their hair as naturals do.
 
Thanks. Ovation is still more affordable at $56 vs. $60. I'm gonna have my mom place my next oder to get another 10% off. I'll make sure I order enough bottles to last me throughout the year.

This place has it at $6.59 - $7.79. Someone posted a link a while back that had it for $5 I think.

Lys
 
This is the Eqyss stuff too - the 'Cloud Nine' rinse? I'm REALLY happy with it. :yep:
I didn't know you were using this...I may have to get my gruby little paws on this one then.

I purchased the Eqyss Survivor, that's the best non silicon serum in the world. It's goinig to be great on my straight hair do days!! There's no water in it so no reversion issuse....(I didn't see water in the ingredients)

Urm. I use 1/2 cup of yogurt, 1/2 cup of coconut milk, some molasses, juice from a lime, and thickIt (this food starch to make it thicker) and slap it on my hair. It's VERY protein rich - my hair was CRAZY strong for a day or so, then it got unhappy and started breaking a little, so I had to swoop in with a midweek moisture treatment.
I have given myself a couple of protein hair cuts since I've been natural. Now I only protein when I use heat to wear my hair straight.


Well, see, but Sareca is texturized - which means I would expect her hair to have a higher protein requirement than either me or AtlantaJJ, since we are both natural. I think folks with chemically treated hair don't have to be QUITE as nervous/on top of insuring they don't over protein their hair as naturals do.
I'm going have to error on the side of caution here. I've had a henna incident or two in the past also. My hair is just strange about protein. I'm going to do a Sebastain Cellophane this weekend. My hair loves cellophanes because it's naturally porse..they give my hair a nice protective coating that keeps my moisture balance healthy.
 
I'm going have to error on the side of caution here. I've had a henna incident or two in the past also. My hair is just strange about protein. I'm going to do a Sebastain Cellophane this weekend. My hair loves cellophanes because it's naturally porse..they give my hair a nice protective coating that keeps my moisture balance healthy.

:lachen: at the protein haircut!!! Yeah, I gave myself a GOOD one when I first started out with henna and got all excited and overvamped about using it. :nono: Was a bad, bad, thing.

Yeah, I'm definitely leaning on the 'not doing it' side of things.

*sigh* I'll NEVER have healthy red hair. :tantrum: *pout*
 
:lachen: at the protein haircut!!! Yeah, I gave myself a GOOD one when I first started out with henna and got all excited and overvamped about using it. :nono: Was a bad, bad, thing.

Yeah, I'm definitely leaning on the 'not doing it' side of things.

*sigh* I'll NEVER have healthy red hair. :tantrum: *pout*
awwwww, I'm just a big ole fraddy cat!!! I could just :hammer: myself when I mess up!
 
FANTASTIC!!! :clapping:

I have a Whole Foods right now the street from me. Is it in the produce?

Thanks again! :blowkiss:
No but anyone who works there could guide you to it. It's freeze dried, so it isn't in the produce section. It's in the section with the international asian foods, down that aisle. The same section that has Miso soup (in the box, not the kind that's in the refridgerated section! It is not in the refridgerated section as it is freeze dried. It is on a regular international aisle). Just tell them you're looking for Nori. If they are confused....which I doubt, tell them you're thinking of making Sushi or putting it in your miso soup. It should be in the same aisle with the boxed miso, and they'll lead you right to it. Hope that helps.
 
If Coat Rebuilder is the same product as the cell therapy then this is a fantastic choice...16oz $21.99 /12oz $56.95...yikes...:yep:
See if you can ask them what's in the bigger bottle of coat rebuilder. Oddly, I clicked a link and it looked different, even though it looks like the same product as my 2oz container, black and purple container. Just double check to make sure before purchasing. If it is the same, they both say coat rebuilder, then yipeee! Good for you.:grin:
 
I think I read the 2 oz ingredients list is different than the 16 oz list....it's so :drunk::spinning::drunk::spinning::drunk:

I remember reading discussions about that but did not focus too much attention on it *eyes glaze over*

Thx for the reminder to stick with what I've got and quit lookin' around...LOL...:yep:

Take Care
 
See if you can ask them what's in the bigger bottle of coat rebuilder. Oddly, I clicked a link and it looked different, even though it looks like the same product as my 2oz container, black and purple container. Just double check to make sure before purchasing. If it is the same, they both say coat rebuilder, then yipeee! Good for you.:grin:

Good idea, thanks..will do
 
I'm posting just to help any relaxed heads with fine hair that are using or contemplating using OCT. Tomorrow is my 3rd week of using OCT on my scalp ONLY 3 - 5 times a week (it's always on my scalp). I also use it on wash days on the length of my hair after my DC for 3 minutes ONLY and rinse it out. I then follow up with my regular quick moisturizing cond and then use it on my scalp only as a leave-in along with my regular leave-in on my length. I do not use the entire OCT system and use my regular shampoo and conditioner so I am predominantly using OCT on the scalp only. I have major ng, new gray hairs popping out of nowhere (the gray is supposed to stop eventually per Sareca), NO buildup (even if I only wash 1x per week and use OCT 5x per week) and no protein or over-moisture problem. My regimen is still the same as far as moisturizing and sealing. The only problem I have is that my hair is growing too damn fast which I am easily judging by the gray which I did not have before. HTH.
 
okay, someone will need to PM on what to do...when i use mt, i get alot of shedding. i mixed with castor oil and still, when i use it - shedding! I want to get growth but not thin hair....what's the prob? I am very disappointed bcs my hair has thinned out alot in the past couple of years, so i'm trying to save what i've got....but i know it works for growth...i don't want to let it go!!! What can I do????

H-E-L-P!:ohwell::nono::look::perplexed:sad::wallbash:

I don't want to keep posting, and i know what you all said about dead hair shedding, but this just don't seem right....seriously, what can i do?
 
okay, someone will need to PM on what to do...when i use mt, i get alot of shedding. i mixed with castor oil and still, when i use it - shedding! I want to get growth but not thin hair....what's the prob? I am very disappointed bcs my hair has thinned out alot in the past couple of years, so i'm trying to save what i've got....but i know it works for growth...i don't want to let it go!!! What can I do????

H-E-L-P!:ohwell::nono::look::perplexed:sad::wallbash:

I don't want to keep posting, and i know what you all said about dead hair shedding, but this just don't seem right....seriously, what can i do?

I stand by the thought that if it's true shedding - and not breakage caused by excess protein - roll with it, hun, roll with it. I don't know how much more you are getting - and if it's thinned out a lot over the past few years - I don't know if that will make a difference to how your follicles will react.

I don't know, sis. My thought is to try to stick it through, but it's your head - if it's truly making you uncomfy - stop using it. Maybe try the Cell Therapy, instead?
 
I'm posting just to help any relaxed heads with fine hair that are using or contemplating using OCT. Tomorrow is my 3rd week of using OCT on my scalp ONLY 3 - 5 times a week (it's always on my scalp). I also use it on wash days on the length of my hair after my DC for 3 minutes ONLY and rinse it out. I then follow up with my regular quick moisturizing cond and then use it on my scalp only as a leave-in along with my regular leave-in on my length. I do not use the entire OCT system and use my regular shampoo and conditioner so I am predominantly using OCT on the scalp only. I have major ng, new gray hairs popping out of nowhere (the gray is supposed to stop eventually per Sareca), NO buildup (even if I only wash 1x per week and use OCT 5x per week) and no protein or over-moisture problem. My regimen is still the same as far as moisturizing and sealing. The only problem I have is that my hair is growing too damn fast which I am easily judging by the gray which I did not have before. HTH.

I am a relaxed head with fine hair:yep: I was previously using this on my hair and scalp only once a week -- but I am changing my regimen starting this week to applying several times a week to my scalp ONLY and leaving on my hair for only a few minutes and rinsing out. Hopefully this will work better for my hair.

Thanks for posting...
 
I'm posting just to help any relaxed heads with fine hair that are using or contemplating using OCT. Tomorrow is my 3rd week of using OCT on my scalp ONLY 3 - 5 times a week (it's always on my scalp). I also use it on wash days on the length of my hair after my DC for 3 minutes ONLY and rinse it out. I then follow up with my regular quick moisturizing cond and then use it on my scalp only as a leave-in along with my regular leave-in on my length. I do not use the entire OCT system and use my regular shampoo and conditioner so I am predominantly using OCT on the scalp only. I have major ng, new gray hairs popping out of nowhere (the gray is supposed to stop eventually per Sareca), NO buildup (even if I only wash 1x per week and use OCT 5x per week) and no protein or over-moisture problem. My regimen is still the same as far as moisturizing and sealing. The only problem I have is that my hair is growing too damn fast which I am easily judging by the gray which I did not have before. HTH.

Thank you so much review, that was extremely helpful :yep:. I too have fine hair and I have been trying to hold out and not get caught up, but I am going to order the OCT. I just think the Megatek- which sounds awesome, just might be too much protein for my hair. I am so happy to hear about your good results.
 
No but anyone who works there could guide you to it. It's freeze dried, so it isn't in the produce section. It's in the section with the international asian foods, down that aisle. The same section that has Miso soup (in the box, not the kind that's in the refridgerated section! It is not in the refridgerated section as it is freeze dried. It is on a regular international aisle). Just tell them you're looking for Nori. If they are confused....which I doubt, tell them you're thinking of making Sushi or putting it in your miso soup. It should be in the same aisle with the boxed miso, and they'll lead you right to it. Hope that helps.
Thank you for this tip, I want to amp up my diet!!! This is a great idea!!
 
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