Let me tell you something...these things work!! My daughter was a girl scout in an all white troop. They had a sleepover. One of the activities was a makeover. When I picked her up the next day, I was outdone that she had taken out her ponytails to use these rollers. You know we don't like having no white people up in our little girls hair!! One of the leaders had a daughter that did the Irish dancing, so they used them all the time. I was so surprised that my daughter's 3 something hair had lovely spiral curls!! I made a note of the site, but didn't purchase because she was too young to wear her hair out. Thanks for reminding me of these and providing the link. She's in HS and will appreciate the additional styling option.