Patricia
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Patricia
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HEY YOU KNOW I WANT SOME OF THAT GOOD GOOD!
I HEARD IF YOU USE HEAT YOU SHOULD UP YOUR PROTEIN
Patricia
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BEAUTIFUL HAIR SAMANTHA
Patricia
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COOL. BTW LOVE YOUR PROGRESS
ebonylocs
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I'm kinda different. From when I started visiting this site, read articles like SistaSlick's etc, I realised that my fine, porous strands need and tolerate quite a bit of light protein. This was even so (but to a slightly lesser extent) when my hair was natural. So since the beginning I've been using Aphogee 2 Min every week *like clockwork*, in addition to a moisturising conditioner.
The thing is, my hair doesn't seem to have a lot of elasticity. It's too brittle for my liking. And one time a few months ago, when I didn't use the Aphogee, my hair was sooo much easier to detangle - it felt a bit weaker, so I was scared of that and did a protein treatment a few days later, but while it lasted I liked the new softness and manageability.
So my question is, what protein conditioners give a super dose of strength, yet leave the hair pliable, elastic, silky and not stiff and brittle and tangly. (Not that the Aphogee is bad - I'm just wondering if it is the best for *my* hair.)
The thing is, my hair doesn't seem to have a lot of elasticity. It's too brittle for my liking. And one time a few months ago, when I didn't use the Aphogee, my hair was sooo much easier to detangle - it felt a bit weaker, so I was scared of that and did a protein treatment a few days later, but while it lasted I liked the new softness and manageability.
So my question is, what protein conditioners give a super dose of strength, yet leave the hair pliable, elastic, silky and not stiff and brittle and tangly. (Not that the Aphogee is bad - I'm just wondering if it is the best for *my* hair.)
victorious
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*hangs head in shame.*
It took me almost 4 years to realize that.
I recently determined my hair needs more mild protein more often. I'm back to scraggly ends once again, but I'm going to up the mild protein weekly. I'll try the Aphogee 2 min reconstructor next weekend since I henna'ed midweek. I've also added a little leftover Infusium 23 to my spray bottle. I'm still keeping ORS Mayo and their Replenishing Conditioner in rotation.
I tried the 2 step Aphogee and Infusium 23 before joining the forum, and swore my hair hated protein...wrong. I think I went overboard with it in the past. I might not need the 2 step Aphogee if I keep up with the monthly henna.
It took me almost 4 years to realize that.
I recently determined my hair needs more mild protein more often. I'm back to scraggly ends once again, but I'm going to up the mild protein weekly. I'll try the Aphogee 2 min reconstructor next weekend since I henna'ed midweek. I've also added a little leftover Infusium 23 to my spray bottle. I'm still keeping ORS Mayo and their Replenishing Conditioner in rotation.
I tried the 2 step Aphogee and Infusium 23 before joining the forum, and swore my hair hated protein...wrong. I think I went overboard with it in the past. I might not need the 2 step Aphogee if I keep up with the monthly henna.
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sunshinebeautiful
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I did my best, but hey, nice explanation. I know you are very knowledge about hair products.
And I never knew ceramides were lipids. Learn something new everyday. Do Joico products contain ceramides as well? How do you know when your hair may need lipids?
sunshinebeautiful
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Where do you purchase your proteins straight-up?
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sunshinebeautiful
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OK. Let's try these on for size:
The Fine Art of Protein and Moisture - great article written by our own Sistaslick. At the end of the article are moisture and protein conditioner recommendations.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/278612/the_fine_art_of_protein_and_moisture.html?page=7&cat=69
"To Clear the Air about Protein" - thread started by Supergirl (more great info about protein)
http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=20494&
Light and Heavy Protein recommendation thread:
http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=47732%22
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Artemis
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I did my best, but hey, nice explanation. I know you are very knowledge about hair products.
I believe it is due to patent circumstances, but the "ceramides" in Joico products are actually labeled as "glycolipids".
IME when doing my hair, if protein and moisture balances are ok, and I'm still having issues (such a styling problems), I will add [coconut] oil or a product that contains oils or ceramides to support the other things I'm doing. Either like a pre-poo, mixing it with my dc, or after I'm done styling. Also, I found out that sometimes I don't even need to add moisturizer to my hair in between washes. This is why.
sunshinebeautiful
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Hmmmm.... this is really interesting. I wonder if this is why so many of the ladies on the board love using coconut oil? I promise I have tried everything on this board for my hair - randomly but still...
Maybe this is why my hair liked prepoos with vatika oil and rollersets (using only water and sealing with coconut oil) so much? And, like you noted, I rarely use moisturizer between washes. Hmmmm.... :scratchch: This is starting to make some sense now. Thanks. 
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Artemis
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Hmmmm.... this is really interesting. I wonder if this is why so many of the ladies on the board love using coconut oil? I promise I have tried everything on this board for my hair - randomly but still...
YW. Yeah coconut is one of the best things for the hair. It's a natural conditioner.
In fact, let me link you to this article I've posted about before about oiling the hair--why we should do it and how to do it.
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/vbjournal.php?do=article&articleid=71
meverllyn1
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tell me........when it comes to protein and moisture, how do you know which one your hair needs. I have notice, since i don't use protein as often as i used to, i have split ends now.....is it because i need more protein or moisture.
Artemis
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This article should explain it for you. The author is a well-respected member of this board (Sistaslick)
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/278612/the_fine_art_of_protein_and_moisture.html
Dposh167
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ive been overly-moisturized 3x in 2008!!!!...all due to me avoiding protein. I only used it in the beginning of a stretch..and towards the end. That regimen held out ok....until i started a new regimen by cowashing 3-4x a week. that much conditioning means more protein needed. I didnt get it until it was too late. Luckily, i was able to get my hair back on track by incorporating light protein conditioners within my cowash regimen. And the reults are GREAT. Stronger hair and less breakage as a result and pays off. Now, i loooove protein conditioners. i think i have more protein products than moisture now
Patricia
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DUOTEX made my hair strong yet silky. I am really impressed with it.
Patricia
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I know how you feel. Seem like forever. Yeah we need to rethink this protein thing and not be afraid to use it.
Patricia
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Me too! I have more protein products.
Patricia
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Yep once a week for me too
kblc06
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After being on the boards about 2 years and obsessing with hair care. Guess what I found out?
ALL I NEEDED WAS PROTEIN!
Darn shame. plenty days of not combing cause my hair would break and come out. No detangling in shower cause of excessive hair loss.Cutting hair repeatly cause it was growing back thin. Cutting back to neck length.............. You know that song.YOU JUST DO YOU , I MA DO ME, I MA DO ME, IMA DO ME. That should have been out when I first started my journey.
I made so many mistakes listening to people who swear protein is the enemy! My hair paid the price. I'm good now cause I have been rebuilding my hair every week with a good dose of protein reconstructor of some type in my mane and tail. The results has been strong hair that don't break and its not fragile anymore.
Anyone else abused their hair by not using protein?
How long did it take you to figure it out?
Thanks
Even though I'm natural, I can't go more than 2 consecutive washes without protein; my hair gets stretchy and uber-fragile (more than it already is). If I had listened to people who said your hair only needs moisture and very little protein, I wouldn't have any hair on my head. DO WHAT WORKS FOR YOU!
Patricia
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Girl you know everything about haircare. I'm about to stalk you, I mean check out your fotki
. Thank you for this good info
Patricia
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You right. I think It will be a couple years before I'll see my thickness again.Even though I'm natural, I can't go more than 2 consecutive washes without protein; my hair gets stretchy and uber-fragile (more than it already is). If I had listened to people who said your hair only needs moisture and very little protein, I wouldn't have any hair on my head. DO WHAT WORKS FOR YOU!
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Lovestyr
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i have always been a protein eater , i have actually never done a protein teatment however my hair is thick reg
erplexedardless. i eat protein every day and sometimes i wil drink a protein shake just for the heck of it . everyone is different i guess . i am curious about doing a protein treatment i asked my beautician once and she said that was for people whose hair was severly damaged and since was hair was healthy that i did t need one.
erplexedardless. i eat protein every day and sometimes i wil drink a protein shake just for the heck of it . everyone is different i guess . i am curious about doing a protein treatment i asked my beautician once and she said that was for people whose hair was severly damaged and since was hair was healthy that i did t need one.
Poodlepizzared
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i have always been a protein eater , i have actually never done a protein teatment however my hair is thick reg
I drink protein shakes too. Your hair doesn't necessarily have to be damaged to get a protein treatment. My hair isn't damaged and I do a protein prepoo every week or every other week.
MizzBrown
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What about TIGI Dumb Blonde Reconstructor?
Is this considered light, medium or heavy? Do i need to use it like a mask and then follow up with a moisturizing condish?
The first time i tried it alone, it worked well...second time, hair was a little stiff and not that easy to detangle.
Is this considered light, medium or heavy? Do i need to use it like a mask and then follow up with a moisturizing condish?
The first time i tried it alone, it worked well...second time, hair was a little stiff and not that easy to detangle.
Ivy Santolina
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After being on the boards about 2 years and obsessing with hair care. Guess what I found out?
ALL I NEEDED WAS PROTEIN!
Darn shame. plenty days of not combing cause my hair would break and come out. No detangling in shower cause of excessive hair loss.
Anyone else abused their hair by not using protein?
How long did it take you to figure it out?
Thanks
Congratulations on your hair-discovery. I just recently learned too that my hair needed a better balance of protein and moisture. After reading Audrey Sivasothy's article on protein/moisture balance I instantly saw what I was doing wrong. I was over moisturizing my hair to offset applying MegaTek on my scalp 3 times a week. I wanted to ensure I didn't have protein overload but I made my hair too mushy.
I had the epiphany that the protein was only being applied to my scalp so there was no need to add extra moisture to the length of my hair. 
So to correct my mistake I used the Nexxus Emergencee reconstructor as a pre-texturizer and pre-neutralizer protein treatment. My hair responded very well to it. Since those 2 protein treatments I have a lot less breakage even though I applied the texturizer when my hair wasn't in its strongest form. BTW I got the idea to apply the protein prior to neutralizing my texturizer from Audrey too. Here's a link to her article: Guide to Safely Applying Chemical RelaxersSimilar threads
