MONUMENTAL

[Laela]

http://www.monumentalmovie.com/

So there is this new movie, Monumental, that Kirk Cameron is promoting and last week on Piers Morgan, he simply stated his beliefs about various topics. His statement on homosexuality is what got folks fired up.... never mind what he said before/during or after that comment.

Devil up to his tricks, because I see this "outrage" as a distraction for him, and an attack on his (and other Christian's) efforts to keep God in the theaters >> http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/enterta...kirk-cameron-responds-to-critics-hate-speech/

For those who aren't familiar:

Kirk Cameron was a childhood actor heartthrob from TVs "Growing Pains." He's now a Christian, married with six children and has been a part of the "Left Behind" series and played a main character in "Fireproof" - the movie that focused on marriage.
He also is part of a powerful ministry, "The Way of the Master", which offers daily radio clips.

I'm glad that he is unwavering in his faith... as we should as Christians.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this ....

 

[Shimmie]

Now See!

Girl you made MY DAY! ! !

Laela, I kid you not. The other day I was just talking to the Lord about the actors who 'all' seem to appease the gay agenda.

My thoughts were along this line...

Lord, please show me just 'ONE' actor who is not afraid to speak up.




Laela, I'm just sayin'.... I've know about Kirk Cameron and his faithful and strong stand for God. Kirk, doesn't bend for the world, but he will bend his knees in prayer to honour God and our Lord Jesus Christ.

So when you posted that he was talkin' to Piers Morgan, who is ga'peaser fearful of losing his job... ( what

:woohoo2: :woohoo2: :woohoo2:

God HEARD MY PRAYER! :woohoo2: I wanted to know and I wanted to see just 'ONE' actor who renounces the gay agenda and stands upon his faith in Christ Jesus.

God for making my day. Lord, I praise you.

YOU HEARD ME!

And yes, you answered in a quickness of time.

Father in Jesus' Name, please bless this man and keep him stronger than ever before. Bless his life, his family, his Ministry... thank you for sealing them in the Blood of Jesus... Bless them for taking an unwavering stand and all for the love of you.

Amen and Amen.

 

[Rainbow Dash]

Kirk is standing up for righteousness and I hope that due to His stand, someone will get saved. This brings attention to what God has said and hopefully people will listen.

Reminds me of Tebow and Lin, they are not ashamed of Jesus.

 

[Laela]

Here's a good assessment piece:

Kirk Cameron's Gay Comments Stir Up Controversy, But Why the Furor?
Opinion

By WALT OSTERMAN:
March 5, 2012 5:49 PM EST

Kirk Cameron made a statement over the weekend about homosexuality being "unnatural" that stirred up a hornets' nest. What's the furor all about?

One man, on a television show, stated his opinion. Doesn't he have a right to do that? Apparently not, especially when it opposes the views of what the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation calls "a growing majority of Americans, particularly people of faith who believe that their gay and lesbian brothers and sisters should be loved and accepted..."

Well, I agree with both statements, and there's the rub.

There is nothing natural about homosexuality, and gay and lesbian brothers and sisters should be loved and accepted.

In today's perverted world, definitions have changed. Telling someone you love, really love, something to correct their improper behavior is viewed as attacking them. It is not attacking them; it is attacking (and in some cases hating) what they do, not who they are. The left, of course, sees no difference.

Several generations of Americans have given their lives to defend the rights of other Americans to live free. Our government stepped into the fray and has correctly ascertained that all people, regardless of age, gender, race, religious affiliation, and (lately) sexual orientation, cannot be discriminated against. Bravo!

But I feel we're missing the point. That same government has always restricted and outlawed certain behaviors -- what folks can and cannot do.

The issue is behavior. We lose the fight unless we understand it's about behavior. No one should care what people are, but we do need to be concerned with what they do. Is that doubletalk? Hardly.

Arguments could be made that pedophiles, arsonists, and thieves (pick your socially unacceptable group) were born that way. In every case, however, individuals in those groups are exhibiting socially unacceptable behavior. They are not to be physically attacked, denied jobs, denied the right to vote, or discriminated against in any way. But (and it's a big but) society does have the right to decry their behaviors, what they do, and in some cases outlaw it.

Homosexuality is a behavior issue, but it's not presented that way in the marketplace of ideas. If it were, liberals would lose every time. They have no choice; gay and lesbian groups must alter the question. They have, aided and abetted by a liberal, cowardly media, been very successful in doing that.

Let's not discuss behavior; let's discuss what gay and lesbian people are. OK, what are they?

All gay and lesbian people are sinners in need of being covered by the blood of a loving Savior. Placing oneself in a group, and then defending the mores of that group, tables the issue.

How far we have fallen. We live in a society where heterosexuals do not get married and homosexuals do. Political correctness allows for a loud, vocal defense of those perverse behaviors but silence (absolute silence) from the perceived ignorant detractors. So much for freedom of speech. Hear that, Kirk?

True love, as I mentioned earlier, calls for honesty, sometimes brutal honesty. The vitriolic furor that speaking ill of homosexuality unleashes demands tough, brave, true love, not cowardice.

Christ died for everyone, but the one part of the Gospel folks constantly overlook is the repentance section. We are to change our behaviors, not revel in our perversions. We are not called to be proud of our transgressions but to humbly be ashamed of them.

My country is going to hell; we're toast. Individually, however, there is still hope.

Getting back to Kirk. Denying him the right to honestly state his views, removes that freedom from every one of us. Good night, America. You were once too beautiful for words.


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Walt Osterman is the author of "Not Home Yet: A Tale Concerning Israel's Rebirth." He served in Vietnam and is a Bronze Star recipient. He lives in Wyoming.

 

[Laela]

I pray that everyone knows and understand, this isn't gay bashing; this is more about standing up in faith and what is right, no matter what. People are quick to call Christians who stand firm by God's Word "haters"...but that comes with the territory and is expected. That movie must be something....

I'll have to look more into it.

 

[Shimmie]

^^^^^

Thanks Laela... I'm sooooooooo happy about this. And I am standing for Jesus AND Kirk Cameron. I am supporting him 10000000 %

Here are some of the comments from the original article: the devil to the curb....

I edited out the names of the posters like this (---------------)

It's a mix of comments; but you know the ones that agree with. The ones speaking the Truth!

User Comments


We all have the right to our opinions…or has the Left decided thats only if you are a Liberal?



I think Kirk has grown up into a fine man with a good sense of moral character that he is not afraid to stand by. It seems that gays are the haters to anyone who does not believe the way they do.


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The liberals/gays say the Christians need to be more tolerant – they are the intolerant ones. It is so plain to see. Im glad that Kirk Cameron said what he believes. I too am a Christian and have his same beliefs. Im proud to be a Christian.


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While I in no way agree with Kirk Cameron’s views on the gay community, I will stand up for his right to voice his opinion in any venue. He should not be condemned for what he believes. If you disagree with someone debate them, argue with them, but this condemnation approach only incites hate and is not an appropriate response. Rush Limbaugh deserves condemnation for his rants and slurs. Kirk deserves respect and consideration no matter what your political lean is on the subject lest we all devolve to a mob.


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I dont agree with anything he’s saying, but he’s not advocating legislation to make his religious views laws, soooooo…leave him alone. He’s entitled to his opinion. So long as someone isn’t trying to make their religion law…..they can say what they want to say. They want to be intolerant, well, i think that is a pox on their soul and their ability to live at peace i na diverse world, but hey, that’s their choice. leave him alone.


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Everyone has the right to free speech and their own opinion. That is not a gaurantee that the opion will be popular. or that others won’t use their free speech to denounce what has been put out there. If you do not want a reaction>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


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I’m sick an tired of having to be “politically correct” these days. For pete’s sake, can no one have their own opinion these days without being chastised for what they believe? You believe what you want to, and I’ll believe what I want. Doesn’t make either one of us right or wrong!


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We all have the right to our opinions…or has the Left decided thats only if you are a Liberal?—-no. I”m pretty socially liberal and I agree. he’s not looking to make laws to force us all to conform to his reliigous beliefs. He’s just saying what he believes. Leave him alone.



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This is one of my favorite responses..


Good for KC.

Hold your ground against the Media Entertaiment Borg collective. Tim Groseclose in “Left Turn”, talks about how the constant bombardment of left wing media/propaganda, has conditioned the American public leftwards. I think that this has the most affect on social issues than economic issues. This is mainly because the left can exploit the emotional aspects better with social issues.

I don’t know what the educational leval of KC or these hollywood types, but unlick KC, they sure are easily manipulated into accepting a position based on emotions.

Yes, it is a behavior choice (whether it is biological or culturally conditioned). Hom sexual behavior is an evolutionary dead end one because it doesn’t lead to diversification of the gene pool. Now, people engage in many activities that give them sexual pleasure, which is their business even though it may harm people because of health care related issues.

As people tries to cure many ailments that affects us, why so PC about not condemning behavior which is a choice (such as people can abstain from having sex, or get the pleasure in many ways) that potentially lead to negative outcomes for people (not to condemn smoking, but it’s not good for you and will kill you-who is the doctor who would say that).

The entertainment media industry as they try to be the moral authority (vs. the lets say the church) definitely have intimidated people to qualify their research. Otherwise they will brand people with their ist, ism, anti and phobia words to make sure people confirm to their ways by intimidating people (cultural conditioning).

So docs are allowed to say “you engage in high risk behavior if you engage in normal/wide type sex without qualification but, they may get branded by a scarlet word, if they advice people having high-risk, evolutionary dead end behavior? And you think people are so called liberated/progressive in their mind set are so intellectually advanced, because they are ok with people getting pleasure in a certain way that doesn’t lead to the diversification of the gene pool. What a joke and a tragedy to have such a mind set.

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I dont agree with anything he’s saying, but he’s not advocating legislation to make his religious views laws, soooooo…leave him alone.—-I agree. I’m liberal and proud of it. And while I dont agree with what he’s saying…..it’s a free country. He’s just saying what he feels, and I agree with joe, what he feels I think, hurts him more than anyone else.


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Because you have different moral views, you are considered hateful? He very calmly answered the questions posed to him and never said anything hateful. It takes a strong person to stand up to what they believe in.


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I am a left wing liberal, and I agree this guy has the right to his opinion, even if it is stupid.



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Well, I completely agree with Mr. Cameron. I have gay friends, but just because I don’t agree with their lifestyle doesn’t mean I don’t love them as God’s children. He has his opinion and it isn’t taken from hate; it is in love because he is concerned the souls of mankind. It IS unnatural and it is not what God intended for his children. His intent IS for man and woman to be together and create a stronger kingdom.


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We are suppose to be living in the “free” world. It’s pretty bad when you cannot speak what you believe. It seems that only a few are allowed to say what they believe and the rest of us are to stand by and keep quiet?!? Joy Behar (The View) has a big, loud mouth and she needs to shut up – she’s the main reason I won’t watch the show. I stand by Mr. Cameron’s right to speak what he believes (right or wrong). The rest of you – get a life and quit being so sensitive. This “politically correct” business has gotten out of hand.


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He is entitled to his opinion. It is his religious belief and that is fine. He is not advocating any law changes or anything.

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Just speaking the truth, hate the sin, love the sinner speak to them the truth.


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It’s refreshing that Kirk is not being politically correct. He’s a Christian and believes what is in the Bible. It’s his right and obligation to say what he believes. We don’t tell Joy Behar to shut up.. I’m so tired of her! My Christian friends and I don’t watch The View because of her.


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Kirk Cameron was ASKED his opinion on the subject. If someone asks your opinion and you are a truthful person you will answer it honestly. WATCH the interview people. He was in no way mean, demeaning or rude to anyone. He gave his opinion when asked. Just because it doesnt match your moral beliefs shouldnt be a gateway to bashing him. When someone is on the side of gay marriage they give their opinion and thats it. So if you feel that he should change his beliefs and morals and his way of life to be exactly the same as yours then wouldnt the same be expected of all of you?????




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Way to go, Kirk!!! Just because he disagrees doesn’t mean he hates. It just means he is not fearful to voice his own beliefs. He has as much right to speak as any of us does.
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It is a shame that no one is permitted to express their thoughts, even when pointedly asked to do so, such as Cameron did during the interview, without being slandered. It is called “free speech” and everyone in the US is entitled to it. He has his point of view, as does everyone else. That is what is wrong nowadays, everything is supposed to be ‘politically correct’ and sugar coated so no one is offended. Guess what, not everyone can be made happy at the same time. If you find it offensive, choose to not listen, or read the article, etc.

 

[Shimmie]

I pray that everyone knows and understand, this isn't gay bashing; this is more about standing up in faith and what is right, no matter what. People are quick to call Christians who stand firm by God's Word "haters"...but that comes with the territory and is expected. That movie must be something....

I'll have to look more into it.

I agree... there isn't a thing in your heart that is bashing a gay person.

As for me, I am totally hard hitting the gay agenda; not the gay individual, but the agenda itself. They are taking things waaayyy to far and this reaction to Kirk Cameron is proof of it.

 

[Laela]

Yes, there is a difference between exposure of the "agenda" and hating people. I get that...


oooohh...this comment is all right! LOL @ underlined..

Good for KC.

Hold your ground against the Media Entertaiment Borg collective. Tim Groseclose in “Left Turn”, talks about how the constant bombardment of left wing media/propaganda, has conditioned the American public leftwards. I think that this has the most affect on social issues than economic issues. This is mainly because the left can exploit the emotional aspects better with social issues.

I don’t know what the educational leval of KC or these hollywood types, but unlick KC, they sure are easily manipulated into accepting a position based on emotions.

Yes, it is a behavior choice (whether it is biological or culturally conditioned). Hom sexual behavior is an evolutionary dead end one because it doesn’t lead to diversification of the gene pool. Now, people engage in many activities that give them sexual pleasure, which is their business even though it may harm people because of health care related issues.

As people tries to cure many ailments that affects us, why so PC about not condemning behavior which is a choice (such as people can abstain from having sex, or get the pleasure in many ways) that potentially lead to negative outcomes for people (not to condemn smoking, but it’s not good for you and will kill you-who is the doctor who would say that).

The entertainment media industry as they try to be the moral authority (vs. the lets say the church) definitely have intimidated people to qualify their research. Otherwise they will brand people with their ist, ism, anti and phobia words to make sure people confirm to their ways by intimidating people (cultural conditioning).

So docs are allowed to say “you engage in high risk behavior if you engage in normal/wide type sex without qualification but, they may get branded by a scarlet word, if they advice people having high-risk, evolutionary dead end behavior? And you think people are so called liberated/progressive in their mind set are so intellectually advanced, because they are ok with people getting pleasure in a certain way that doesn’t lead to the diversification of the gene pool. What a joke and a tragedy to have such a mind set.

 

[InVue]

I agree with Kirk Cameron and applaud his boldness in standing for his faith.

Sad day were're living in, people call evil good and good evil; some of these folks are turned over to reprobate minds.

 

[Shimmie]

Yes, there is a difference between exposure of the "agenda" and hating people. I get that...


oooohh...this comment is all right! LOL @ underlined..

Okay... Promise not to laugh... 'Pinkie Swear'

I don't get the 'underlined'... Ex' plane' to me plu'eeezzze.

Think you, ver'di much...

 

[loolalooh]

I didn't know he had a movie coming out. Off to check the trailer in a second ...

We (other LHCF members and I, Christians and non-Christians) discussed his stance in the Entertainment Forum. It surprisely didn't get heated , but it was pretty intense. I don't even want to revisit the topic, but I will say that Christians get a bad rep outside these parts (i.e., outside of CF).

 

[Shimmie]

I haven't been to a movie theater since October 18, 1990 (to see Home Alone 1). I do not like movie theaters.

HOWEVER...

When Kirk's movie comes into the theater's, I'm GOING. I will gather my family and friends and go to support this man of God.

I will publically show my support for him and could care less who takes issue with it. gays do not rule the world. Now it may be their 'intent'; one of the objectives of the gay agenda is to silence 'all' opposition to the gay lifestyle. They are out to instill the mindset that homosexuality is a normal way of life and that there are no consequences for their folly.

What's normal about AIDs/HiV a disease primarily and prominiently spread between gay men?

 

[Laela]

Media Entertaiment Borg collective....

Interesting choice of words to define the left-wing media's swaying Americans to take a left turn, instead of a right... loaded. I take it the commenter is making reference to the Borgs, the pseudo-race of folks in Star Trek that used abduction and assimiliation to take over..

Okay... Promise not to laugh... 'Pinkie Swear'

I don't get the 'underlined'... Ex' plane' to me plu'eeezzze.

Think you, ver'di much...

Wow... that' s um, monumental ! (I'm a wordsmith..can't help it)... lol

I haven't been to a movie theater since October 18, 1990 (to see Home Alone 1). I do not like movie theaters.

HOWEVER...

When Kirk's movie comes into the theater's, I'm GOING.

 

[Nice & Wavy]

I'm looking forward to seeing the movie. I think that as we believers in Jesus continue to stand for righteousness, persecution will rise. Oh well, if they persecuted Jesus, they will persecute us, so we will keep on keeping on!

I thank God for Kirk Cameron and his stand for righteousness by proclaiming the truth.

Thanks for sharing this thread!

 

[Nice & Wavy]

I didn't know he had a movie coming out. Off to check the trailer in a second ...

We (other LHCF members and I, Christians and non-Christians) discussed his stance in the Entertainment Forum. It surprisely didn't get heated , but it was pretty intense. I don't even want to revisit the topic, but I will say that Christians get a bad rep outside these parts (i.e., outside of CF).

There is nothing new under the sun. At this point in my life and in my walk...I don't care what people think of me and what I say, I'm gonna say it anyway.

Everyone can say what they want to say but as soon as the Christian open their mouth....we are the enemy.

They hated Jesus....so we are not exempt (those of us who are walking with Him).

 

[Laela]

The world did it to Jesus; Kirk I'm sure expects the same.


Matthew 5:10
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

I didn't know he had a movie coming out. Off to check the trailer in a second ...

We (other LHCF members and I, Christians and non-Christians)discussed his stance in the Entertainment Forum. It surprisely didn't get heated , but it was pretty intense. I don't even want to revisit the topic, but I will say that Christians get a bad rep outside these parts (i.e., outside of CF).

 

[Shimmie]

I LOVE what Kirk Cameron replied to Piers Morgan's silly question about gay marriage: I mean is this the hallmark of questions being asked of every single person who appears on shows nowadays?

Anyhoo...

Kirk didn't stutter...

'Well, go ahead and ask me..."


:wow: :wow: :wow:

This man don't play...