MHM Hangout

[aharri23]

Come to the conclusion that my hair hates oils. I was having bad dandruff last week and I normally don't have any dandruff so I was confused. Then I realized past 2 weeks I've been adding jojoba oil to my hair on a daily basis. I shampooed with a sulfate shampoo to get all the extra oils out of my hair and now im back on track. My hair does not need any oil! Gel is all I need lol.

 

[faithVA]

Come to the conclusion that my hair hates oils. I was having bad dandruff last week and I normally don't have any dandruff so I was confused. Then I realized past 2 weeks I've been adding jojoba oil to my hair on a daily basis. I shampooed with a sulfate shampoo to get all the extra oils out of my hair and now im back on track. My hair does not need any oil! Gel is all I need lol.

It's interesting that it would give you dandruff though. So interesting.

 

[aharri23]

It's interesting that it would give you dandruff though. So interesting.

Yeah I thought it was weird too, I googled to see if anyone else had the same problem and a couple of other naturals had problems with dandruff when using oil. I never had problems with extra virigin olive oil so it may just be I got a bad batch of jojoba oil

 

[Cattypus1]

@Cattypus1 sounds like we are going to be celebrating our 1 year anniversary togethers? I hit my 1 year mark on 5/3! When do you hit yours?

5/10...yep. I'm really excited. My hair may look some kind of crazy mist of the time but it's healthier than ever and I am achieving length I've never had without relaxed hair.

 

[hairtimes5]

Come to the conclusion that my hair hates oils. I was having bad dandruff last week and I normally don't have any dandruff so I was confused. Then I realized past 2 weeks I've been adding jojoba oil to my hair on a daily basis. I shampooed with a sulfate shampoo to get all the extra oils out of my hair and now im back on track. My hair does not need any oil! Gel is all I need lol.

This is me. My scalp itches like mad when I use oils so I stopped putting any on my scalp years ago. But I discovered several months ago that while my hair itself doesn't dislike oils, it doesn't need them either so I don't use them. Tried using a little sweet almond oil about a wk ago bcuz of the gel I was using at the time and my hair didn't turn out right. One of the main things I've learned since starting MHM, and more specifically, dubaidee's method, is that I was doing a whole lot of unnecessary stuff to my hair.

 

[discodumpling]

So how come y'all didn't tell me? Pics to come but i'm enjoying my softest unflakiest washngo EVER!
I cowashed with Tressame Curl Hydrator rinsed and left a tiny bit in and then gelled with my Super Wet. It took a little longer to dry than usual...BUT it was totally worth it! Pics in a few. I can't wait to do it again!

It's time to rake my wng differently so that the middle doesn't look so bare.

 

[faithVA]

I don't feel like doing much MHM right now. I don't feel like doing much to my hair at all. I decided to use the mud puddle wash tonight to keep it simple. I washed twice with it then I used Natural Oasis softening balm as my conditioner. I just twisted my hair up with Camille Rose Aloe Whip. My scalp feels so much better now.

My hair is growing and retaining enough for me to notice the difference and my thin spots at my edges are filling in.

With this great weather I just want to be outside, so I will save MHM until a rainy day.

 

[Honey Bee]

 

[Bette Davis Eyes]

I made my clay mixture super loose and took about 20 minutes to detangle my hair as I applied with the mixture. I want to see if it makes a difference than my normal way of applying.

I can see how someone could get tired of mixing clay. I only use clay once or twice every two weeks. After todays cherry lola , deep treatment , clay and about to style for the next two weeks or so All I will be doing is cowashing and styling.

https://instagram.com/p/1yNkPRKkmv/?taken-by=a_happy_nappy_affair

 

[Honey Bee]

In case y'all can't watch the vid (or don't like to click on stuff like me), it's danabnatural saying she's not using bs any more. She has lo po hair and used bs in a variety of ways for 8 or 9 months, 2x/wk. After a while, her hair started to feel brittle, so she did an experiment where she cut out the bs and just did clay masks and cowashes. She then tried the bs again, and her hair started feeling brittle again. Having concluded that her hair didn't like the long term use of bs, she decided to just stick with the clay.

I think I agree with her conclusion. I personally wouldn't use bs twice a week for a long period. I'm hovering around once a month in the CLT (I only use one teaspoon of bs) and I'm trynna figure out how to get my protein some other way (but still natural, considering Chicoro's amino acid treatment). Akitafitgirl doesn't use bs that often either.

 

[Honey Bee]

I made my clay mixture super loose and took about 20 minutes to detangle my hair as I applied with the mixture. I want to see if it makes a difference than my normal way of applying.

I can see how someone could get tired of mixing clay. I only use clay once or twice every two weeks. After todays cherry lola , deep treatment , clay and about to style for the next two weeks or so All I will be doing is cowashing and styling.

https://instagram.com/p/1yNkPRKkmv/?taken-by=a_happy_nappy_affair

Thank you for reminding me, I knew I left something out of my clay mix! Honey! Too late, already on my head.

 

[hairtimes5]

Same thing happened to me. From last June to this January baking soda was doing wonders for my hair. Then one day I did the CLT and my hair felt like straw afterwards, even while wet it felt dry. I waited a few more wks before using bs again and still got the same results. I stayed away from it for over a month and used it again in the CLCT about six wks ago. I reduced the amount of bs and only left it on for 15 mins and again, straw-like hair. I just noticed this wk that the straw-like feeling is completely gone. I won't be using it again.

 

[faithVA]

Never mind Honeybee is on the job.

 

[faithVA]

In case y'all can't watch the vid (or don't like to click on stuff like me), it's danabnatural saying she's not using bs any more. She has lo po hair and used bs in a variety of ways for 8 or 9 months, 2x/wk. After a while, her hair started to feel brittle, so she did an experiment where she cut out the bs and just did clay masks and cowashes. She then tried the bs again, and her hair started feeling brittle again. Having concluded that her hair didn't like the long term use of bs, she decided to just stick with the clay.

I think I agree with her conclusion. I personally wouldn't use bs twice a week for a long period. I'm hovering around once a month in the CLT (I only use one teaspoon of bs) and I'm trynna figure out how to get my protein some other way (but still natural, considering Chicoro's amino acid treatment). Akitafitgirl doesn't use bs that often either.

This pretty much falls in line with what DubaiDee has been saying. I think the baking soda is a kick start but at some point people need to let it go.

 

[tashboog]

This pretty much falls in line with what DubaiDee has been saying. I think the baking soda is a kick start but at some point people need to let it go.

That's why I like doing DubaiDee's modified version cuz she eliminates the bs, acv, and conditioner step. My hair is doing fairly well on the modified version and I have hi po hair .

 

[nycutiepie]

Same thing happened to me. From last June to this January baking soda was doing wonders for my hair. Then one day I did the CLT and my hair felt like straw afterwards, even while wet it felt dry. I waited a few more wks before using bs again and still got the same results. I stayed away from it for over a month and used it again in the CLCT about six wks ago. I reduced the amount of bs and only left it on for 15 mins and again, straw-like hair. I just noticed this wk that the straw-like feeling is completely gone. I won't be using it again.

What's your regimen since you removed the BS? I don't use a lot of BS, but I am using it about 2x per week which is how often I try to do the MHM. I guess I've been doing it for about 4 months. Are you doing any DC at all? If so, at what point? I feel like my hair needs DC with heat or steam. I'm going to try the Dubaidee's method for my mid-week either tonight or tomorrow to see how it works.

 

[GGsKin]

This pretty much falls in line with what DubaiDee has been saying. I think the baking soda is a kick start but at some point people need to let it go.

I'm in agreement with you here about letting go of the BS, especially when it comes to frequency and amounts used.

Finding MHM and following it strictly for 7months has helped me learn a lot about how to care for my hair. And I love DubaiDee's 3 step modified regimen. It really strips things back.

At this point, I am getting ready to try this As I Am Curling Jelly that arrrived today. It has glycerin high on the ingredients so will see how that plays out (actually excited about gel smh).

 

[faithVA]

I'm in agreement with you here about letting go of the BS, especially when it comes to frequency and amounts used.

Finding MHM and following it strictly for 7months has helped me learn a lot about how to care for my hair. And I love DubaiDee's 3 step modified regimen. It really strips things back.

At this point, I am getting ready to try this As I Am Curling Jelly that arrrived today. It has glycerin high on the ingredients so will see how that plays out (actually excited about gel smh).

Please let me know how it works. I love the AIA gel but I rarely wear a wng so I have never put it to the test for that.

 

[Holla4mom]

I have done some interesting experimenting over the last week.

I tried to make a conditioner using extremely diluted CLCT ingredients. I overnight GHEd with it and I was excited because I had very little breakage and my hair was very soft. However, on the second time when I did my clay/slippery elm/honey/sweet almond oil mix, I didn't have good clumping and my hair was overconditioned So I have to rethink how to find the right balance of soft/strong- virtually no breakage and still have good clumping. This thing is a science for sure!

So, I had to make a bentonite/acv only mix and my hair clumped back up.

It was my 20th Line anniversary (pledged Delta) and the humidity was 98%! But of course, I wanted to wear my hair out because I've been babying it for this event. I made some Thick flaxseed gel and put in my plaits, sat under the dryer and set out. My hair was not defined like normal in that crazy humidity/ drizzling, and my hair was HUGE. I actually got lots of compliments though and it really made me rethink the notion that I can only wear my hair out when it is in a perfectly defined braid out. I plait it up in just three big plaits and yesterday I took them down and wore a stretched "undefined" braid out and again I got a lot of compliments, especially from my Caucasian co-workers and friends so definitely rethinking the need for every hair to be in it's place for me to feel comfortable with it! This is a change for my 4c hair but now it still "looks like something" even when it's free form

 

[Holla4mom]

I went a little crazy in Whole Foods this morning.

It started yesterday when I washed out the thick flaxseed gel I had put in to hold up in the humidity. My hair felt rough and I didn't have slip, so a tiny bit more breakage. I realized that I normally use a flaxseed/marshmallow root/ burdock root mix with a little honey/ agave nectar for my gel, but this time I had only used flaxseeds.

So, off to Whole Foods today. I bought all kinds of mucilaganous and hair loving substances (oat straw, burdock root, slippery elm, nettle, horsetail, marshmallow root/ neem/ vitamin E oil and citric acid ). I also bought some things to make my gel making process easier- some cotton bags used for steeping a good bit of herbs and small sealable tea bags. I have the gel producing, herbs soaking in water now and I have to figure out where I want to incorporate the nettle/horsetail/neem etc. So, I'll let you know how my concoctions come out!

 

[GGsKin]

Please let me know how it works. I love the AIA gel but I rarely wear a wng so I have never put it to the test for that.

Will do. I will try it proper tomorrow. I couldn't help try a little on a smaalll section of my puff. Out of the jar, I love the scent. It makes a nice change from KCCC all the time- even with added essential oils.

@Holla4mom do you comb out your hair before your braid outs? Eventually I will do one but I am just to lazy to comb through and wait for the set (no hooded dryer). It's a fail for me on uncombed hair lol.

 

[faithVA]

I have done some interesting experimenting over the last week.

I tried to make a conditioner using extremely diluted CLCT ingredients. I overnight GHEd with it and I was excited because I had very little breakage and my hair was very soft. However, on the second time when I did my clay/slippery elm/honey/sweet almond oil mix, I didn't have good clumping and my hair was overconditioned So I have to rethink how to find the right balance of soft/strong- virtually no breakage and still have good clumping. This thing is a science for sure!

So, I had to make a bentonite/acv only mix and my hair clumped back up.

It was my 20th Line anniversary (pledged Delta) and the humidity was 98%! But of course, I wanted to wear my hair out because I've been babying it for this event. I made some Thick flaxseed gel and put in my plaits, sat under the dryer and set out. My hair was not defined like normal in that crazy humidity/ drizzling, and my hair was HUGE. I actually got lots of compliments though and it really made me rethink the notion that I can only wear my hair out when it is in a perfectly defined braid out. I plait it up in just three big plaits and yesterday I took them down and wore a stretched "undefined" braid out and again I got a lot of compliments, especially from my Caucasian co-workers and friends so definitely rethinking the need for every hair to be in it's place for me to feel comfortable with it! This is a change for my 4c hair but now it still "looks like something" even when it's free form

Maybe @tashboogs conditioner recipe will help you. I think she just keeps it simple.

 

[Holla4mom]

Girlllllll! I need to know what's in her bottle. There is no way my fingers are going through my hair with this in it!!! Now my fingers were gliding through my hair before the mud....but with the mud ..... I'd take all of my hair out!!!

Now I remember why I didn't do all of that separating! She has to have a good conditioner in that mud (or it is all conditioner) to make it foam so her fingers can glide through like that. Off to my laboratory...(um)....I mean kitchen to do a little trial and error.

Also, she uses gloves. That does help it glide through better, but I need to feel my clumps so I can detangle properly. I do a LOT of separating and it takes me absolutely forever (at least 45 minutes in the clay) but with my density, I don't get good results if I don't.

 

[Holla4mom]

Will do. I will try it proper tomorrow. I couldn't help try a little on a smaalll section of my puff. Out of the jar, I love the scent. It makes a nice change from KCCC all the time- even with added essential oils.

@Holla4mom do you comb out your hair before your braid outs? Eventually I will do one but I am just to lazy to comb through and wait for the set (no hooded dryer). It's a fail for me on uncombed hair lol.

No, I NEVER comb my hair, lol. I have not combed my hair in years, but I do meticulous finger detangling every wash. I have kind of trained my hair for braid outs. When it's dry, before I get in the shower, I put it in 10 or so sections and bantu knot them. (I was plaiting them but realized that was adding more time). I rinse out my hair in the sections- adding the clay to each section and finger detangling. I leave clay on, knot it back up and go to next section. Then I take down each section, rinse it out under the water so it's still detangled, add the gel and immediately plait that section in the shower.

 

[Holla4mom]

@tashboog , what's your simplified conditioner mix? I might also modify AbsyBlvd oil rinse and make it an oil/herbal rinse before I put the gel on.

 

[discodumpling]

I have used BS treatments in my hair off and on for the past 7+ yrs. I use it for many things from cooking to hair to cleaning to skincare. Listening to DanaB she was using BS 2X per week PLUS claying with Bentonite + BS. Who's cuticle needs raising up 2 x per week?? Plus we've all decided that Bentonite is the most drying of the clays. I'm surprised it took 8-9 months to notice the damage. My hair would have been acting a fool after the 2nd use of the week!

I use BS as a treatment. I either mix conditioner with BS for a clarifying treatment or it's in my CLT. Either or and never both at the same time. Folks be overdoing

 

[faithVA]

I have used BS treatments in my hair off and on for the past 7+ yrs. I use it for many things from cooking to hair to cleaning to skincare. Listening to DanaB she was using BS 2X per week PLUS claying with Bentonite + BS. Who's cuticle needs raising up 2 x per week?? Plus we've all decided that Bentonite is the most drying of the clays. I'm surprised it took 8-9 months to notice the damage. My hair would have been acting a fool after the 2nd use of the week!

I use BS as a treatment. I either mix conditioner with BS for a clarifying treatment or it's in my CLT. Either or and never both at the same time. Folks be overdoing

..........

 

[Ajna]

In case y'all can't watch the vid (or don't like to click on stuff like me), it's danabnatural saying she's not using bs any more. She has lo po hair and used bs in a variety of ways for 8 or 9 months, 2x/wk. After a while, her hair started to feel brittle, so she did an experiment where she cut out the bs and just did clay masks and cowashes. She then tried the bs again, and her hair started feeling brittle again. Having concluded that her hair didn't like the long term use of bs, she decided to just stick with the clay.

I think I agree with her conclusion. I personally wouldn't use bs twice a week for a long period. I'm hovering around once a month in the CLT (I only use one teaspoon of bs) and I'm trynna figure out how to get my protein some other way (but still natural, considering Chicoro's amino acid treatment). Akitafitgirl doesn't use bs that often either.

I am with you a few weeks ago I had the straw hair and it took white vinegar at a 50/50 mix to get it back

As for protein do you like the aubrey organics GPB?

 

[nycutiepie]

I have used BS treatments in my hair off and on for the past 7+ yrs. I use it for many things from cooking to hair to cleaning to skincare. Listening to DanaB she was using BS 2X per week PLUS claying with Bentonite + BS. Who's cuticle needs raising up 2 x per week?? Plus we've all decided that Bentonite is the most drying of the clays. I'm surprised it took 8-9 months to notice the damage. My hair would have been acting a fool after the 2nd use of the week!

I use BS as a treatment. I either mix conditioner with BS for a clarifying treatment or it's in my CLT. Either or and never both at the same time. Folks be overdoing

Good points. I didn't realize she was adding BS to the clay. That is very extra.

 

[Ajna]

I went a little crazy in Whole Foods this morning.

It started yesterday when I washed out the thick flaxseed gel I had put in to hold up in the humidity. My hair felt rough and I didn't have slip, so a tiny bit more breakage. I realized that I normally use a flaxseed/marshmallow root/ burdock root mix with a little honey/ agave nectar for my gel, but this time I had only used flaxseeds.

So, off to Whole Foods today. I bought all kinds of mucilaganous and hair loving substances (oat straw, burdock root, slippery elm, nettle, horsetail, marshmallow root/ neem/ vitamin E oil and citric acid ). I also bought some things to make my gel making process easier- some cotton bags used for steeping a good bit of herbs and small sealable tea bags. I have the gel producing, herbs soaking in water now and I have to figure out where I want to incorporate the nettle/horsetail/neem etc. So, I'll let you know how my concoctions come out!

I love the tea I use Irish Moss or Slippery Elm and/or Marshmallow as a final rinse sometimes I skip the leave in and just use curls in a bottle.
Let us know what you come up with.