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[faithVA]

I just bought some. That pieces thing confused me too but I bought 2lbs of bentonite, and 1lb of rhassoul.

To add to that, I didn't realise my recent purchase of clay was actually sodium bentonite clay lol. I hadn't intended to try it but oh well. I put some on tonight, and I must say I did notice more definition as I was applying. I can't be bothered to finish tonight, as I was doing hair earlier, so I will sleep in it and complete things in the morning.
I am knackered

Is it safe to sleep in the sodium bentonite? I'm not sure why I'm thinking its different.

 

[aharri23]

@aharri23

I am but this is just my second time. I did the clarify, clct, clay and gel yesterday. Today its the first time I'm doing the clay and gel. So far I like this better. I am low porosity as well. Tonight I rinsed out the gel and worked the clay through and detangled with the clay.

I had major definition with the clay step which I don't usually have. I'm still waiting on holding onto that definition when I rinse.

I'm going to stick with it probably through March to really test it out and compare to the original. I will definitely keep you posted.

Great, I'm going to stick with it too. I heard EVOO + honey can act as a deep conditioner. Have you tried that?

 

[faithVA]

I have but it was a while ago. I didn't hate it but I just preferred regular conditioner to it. My hair doesn't like a lot of oil.

 

[hairtimes5]

hairtimes5, I don't think that you damaged it but I think you lifted your cuticles too much. When is the last time you did a clct? You may want to do one to reset.

I did one about 3 weeks ago and my hair felt so straw like that I thought it was going to break off right then and there.

 

[HopefulOne]

Is it safe to sleep in the sodium bentonite? I'm not sure why I'm thinking its different.

I slept in mine and I didn't like the results. I m going back to calcium so I can sleep in it

 

[discodumpling]

What products are these? I can't see!

Thanks for asking DD...NDA sells top notch items and i've rarely been dissapointed with my purchases.

In the pic I have:

Aloe Vera Gel/Juice
Castor Oil
Jojoba Oil
Grapeseed Oil
Pracaxi Oil
Argan Oil

The foil packets contain:
Bamboo Powder
Silk Amino Acids

The white jars contain:
Rhassoul X2
Dead Sea Mineral Mud

I did not purchase any e/o's this time around but NDA has an extensive list that would inspire any kitchen beautician!

 

[discodumpling]

Just wondering...is it possible that I've damaged my hair by using baking soda unnecessarily and that's why my hair is not responding well to clay? I say that because I was thinking earlier how I used to use bentonite on one of my daughter's hair a few yrs back and atleast on two, maybe more, occasions I used it with great results (it was mixed with just acv). When I started MHM the first time back in June or July, I was not having any problems with clay. Bentonite was drying so I switched to rhassoul, which was going well. In December I started using Terresentials with again great results. I was even sleeping in it. Probably around January is when I noticed that my hair felt awful after the clay step so I switched back to rhassoul since Terresentials is made with bentonite. I would use acv occasionally for step 1 during this time but for the most part I was using bs. The last 2 washes with bs or castile had my hair feeling like straw so I stopped those. It just dawned on me though that I was not having problems with clay at first so could this possibly be the case?

Your theory is a sound one and I would back off the bs AND castille and DC, clay, leave-in, gel instead.

I believe that some of us do not 1. have hair that can STAND b/s or deep cleansing with castille et al 2. REQUIRE a b/s or castille wash every time we MHM

Why? Most of us are using gel or other products during our final step that simply rinse away the next time we wash. We are not using heavy silicones or greases that need to be washed away. So we're actually (in my mind) exposing our strands to breakage with frequent b/sing.

So in closing I recommend less b/s and more DC!

 

[KiWiStyle]

I completed the regimen yesterday and my wng turned out really nice! Lots of clumping coils and the shine lasted all day, even when I woke up this morning I had shine.

I'm noticing that when I spray my leavein and apply the gel in thin layers my wng comes out much better. Not all hairs are behaving yet but I am seeing a noticeable difference in 2nd day hair too. I think by the end of March, I'll be happy about leaving the house without a hat, yesterday as cold as it was, I didn't put on my hat because my hair was too cute!

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[faithVA]

I did one about 3 weeks ago and my hair felt so straw like that I thought it was going to break off right then and there.

That's odd. Well for a time just condition and clay. Or if you think you need it try to clarify condition and clay. And maybe do an acv rinse after the clay. I hope your hair returns to normal.

 

[faithVA]

I slept in mine and I didn't like the results. I m going back to calcium so I can sleep in it

Yeah I didn't think it was for sleeping because of the sodium which can be drying over time. Use it when you just want to do a quick clay for about 15 to 30 minutes.

 

[KiWiStyle]

I have found that watering my head more often did more for my wack patch than baking soda ever could. And I am low porosity. Typically a wack patch exists when the scalp in a certain area is dehydrated. Doing the baking soda in the CLCT is ok though.

faithVA so tell me more about getting rid of this wack patch, Lol. Since cutting my hair again, I have less wack patch, the ones that were at the tips only. I knew it was some post relaxer (scab hair) issue so that's why I chopped again. But there are some areas in the back and sides of my nape that are wack as crack! So are you saying this may be a dry scalp issue and that's it producee this dry/hard hair? I put so much water on my head daily so that's not helping...maybe it is just very slowly. I'm now wondering what I can put on my scalp to help it along. I'm also wondering if the spring/summer's humid weather will help too with the help of humectants. Off to do some research.

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[faithVA]

Your theory is a sound one and I would back off the bs AND castille and DC, clay, leave-in, gel instead.

I believe that some of us do not 1. have hair that can STAND b/s or deep cleansing with castille et al 2. REQUIRE a b/s or castille wash every time we MHM

Why? Most of us are using gel or other products during our final step that simply rinse away the next time we wash. We are not using heavy silicones or greases that need to be washed away. So we're actually (in my mind) exposing our strands to breakage with frequent b/sing.

So in closing I recommend less b/s and more DC!

I do think your advice works for the majority in this thread. Leave the baking soda and castille alone please unless you absolutely know its for you.

 

[faithVA]

faithVA so tell me more about getting rid of this wack patch, Lol. Since cutting my hair again, I have less wack patch, the ones that were at the tips only. I knew it was some post relaxer (scab hair) issue so that's why I chopped again. But there are some areas in the back and sides of my nape that are wack as crack! So are you saying this may be a dry scalp issue and that's it producee this dry/hard hair? I put so much water on my head daily so that's not helping...maybe it is just very slowly. I'm now wondering what I can put on my scalp to help it along. I'm also wondering if the spring/summer's humid weather will help too with the help of humectants. Off to do some research.

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Typically a patch like that is due to dry scalp cause by various reasons. The dry scalp pulls moisture from the hair and the hair pulls moisture from the scalp. So it becomes a vicious circle.

Just like it takes time to rehydrate the hair it takes more time in these areas. The water is the best thing. Rub the clay into your scalp. That's the next best thing. Add essential oils to your clay: basil, thyme and sage. You can make an oil blend with castor oil, jojoba oil and olive oil with sage, thyme, basil and lavender and oil your scalp with that several times a week.

It will correct itself. I talk about thus in my blog a bit. I show how I went from a big bald patch on my scalp to where I am now.

 

[KiWiStyle]

Typically a patch like that is due to dry scalp cause by various reasons. The dry scalp pulls moisture from the hair and the hair pulls moisture from the scalp. So it becomes a vicious circle.

Just like it takes time to rehydrate the hair it takes more time in these areas. The water is the best thing. Rub the clay into your scalp. That's the next best thing. Add essential oils to your clay: basil, thyme and sage. You can make an oil blend with castor oil, jojoba oil and olive oil with sage, thyme, basil and lavender and oil your scalp with that several times a week.

It will correct itself. I talk about thus in my blog a bit. I show how I went from a big bald patch on my scalp to where I am now.

Thanks so much! Can you post a link to your blog or PM me?

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[GGsKin]

Is it safe to sleep in the sodium bentonite? I'm not sure why I'm thinking its different.

Faith, it's funny because I felt/ feel the same way about the sodium bentonite clay! For me, it's the word sodium lol. I was umming and aahing about leaving it on but I really couldn't be bothered to wash it out last night, plus I prefer adding my gel when I am up and about, rather than the night before. I probably won't be sleeping in the sodium clay again.

I mixed mine with rhassoul. I know that sodium bentonite clay is supposed to absorb more than others, and even with the rhassoul and a lil molasses (plus the filter water and acv), when I rinsed my hair this morning it was literally squeaky clean. I felt like if there was any build up on my strands at all, there wasn't anymore.

I added a very diluted solution of conditioner- about 1oz in 7 oz water, simply coz my stock is extra low awaiting my hoard lol. My hair didn't have as much slip as usual. I felt this was in part down to the clay. I smoothed some undiluted conditioner on my hair focusing on the front and the ends and added my gel (diluted).

I was in Sallys earlier and the assistant stopped me and paid me a complement on my hair, which was nice as I'd only left it loose so it could dry faster. It made me smile. When I went to pay for my goods, she was at the till. We got talking for about 5-10mins She was very interested in how I treat my hair and what the clay does, and how all the little coils do what they do etc lol.

She told me she has a son who's curls are bigger than mine and I told her the method would probably work for him too. I directed her to the MHM website, so she could read up if she wanted to.

I need to stop though coz I am already complaining about the price of clay rising like crazy, and out of stock conditioners
ETA: Sorry it's already a long post, but I forgot to add pics from today's wash. 1. After clay. 2. After my shop (still very wet at the roots)

 

[HopefulOne]

I love this thread because I always learn new things and it is such a nice group of women who support each other without throwing shade or other issues. I thank everyone for making this thread such a great one.

 

[Ajna]

Butters N Bars is having a sale today only for 20% off. Code is DIY2015

I'm going to get some more rhassoul.

It worked today as well. I stocked up on clay and henna along with coco butter

 

[Ajna]

I love this thread because I always learn new things and it is such a nice group of women who support each other without throwing shade or other issues. I thank everyone for making this thread such a great one.

Right!!
Well said and totally agree.

 

[discodumpling]

Soaking wet hair on Friday after MHM

2nd day hair on Saturday..woke up fluffed and kept it moving.

So i'm back to gel. I finished my flaxseed gel batch and although I was pleased for the most part i'm certain that gel gives me a more secure set. So i'm on to that giant jar of Wetline gel that's been under the sink for a year now It's not as good as pink Eco but i'm not purchasing any gel till this is done!

Today's regi is: DC, Clay, Leave-in, Gel.

 

[msbettyboop]

So for those complaining about the regimen being too long, I can confirm it is possible to do all the steps in less than 3 hours!!!

I got out of bed at 9 today and started step 1 then got a call from a client who insisted on a meeting at 12. I was like, damn, I have to finish this. I can't wash out castile soap from my hair and do nothing else till evening. Would you believe I completed all the steps, made fresh gel for the last step, took a shower, applied make up, dressed, ate breakfast and cleaned the bathroom before 11:30 am? And my hair turned out fantastic too. I'm still amazed at how I achieved this.

 

[HopefulOne]

So for those complaining about the regimen being too long, I can confirm it is possible to do all the steps in less than 3 hours!!! I got out of bed at 9 today and started step 1 then got a call from a client who insisted on a meeting at 12. I was like, damn, I have to finish this. I can't wash out castile soap from my hair and do nothing else till evening. Would you believe I completed all the steps, made fresh gel for the last step, took a shower, applied make up, dressed, ate breakfast and cleaned the bathroom before 11:30 am? And my hair turned out fantastic too. I'm still amazed at how I achieved this.

I am impressed

 

[Guinan]

So for those complaining about the regimen being too long, I can confirm it is possible to do all the steps in less than 3 hours!!!

I got out of bed at 9 today and started step 1 then got a call from a client who insisted on a meeting at 12. I was like, damn, I have to finish this. I can't wash out castile soap from my hair and do nothing else till evening. Would you believe I completed all the steps, made fresh gel for the last step, took a shower, applied make up, dressed, ate breakfast and cleaned the bathroom before 11:30 am? And my hair turned out fantastic too. I'm still amazed at how I achieved this.

That's awesome!! In my opinion, I dont think this method is unusally long or tedious. I did more to my hair prior to MHM and sometimes it would still look a mess. If I cant devote the full time to the method, I shorten it and my hair still turns out great.

 

[KiWiStyle]

I'm starting to be convinced that baggying indeed sprouts new hair! I baggied from overnight from 6p yesterday until this morning my hair definitely looks more full and curly.

For the month of March I plan to continue this regimen:

PRODUCTS:
Rhassoul Clay
Tresemme Naturals Perfectly undone (DC)
Heavily diluted KCKT (leave-in)
KCCC Gel
Organ Oil mixed in steps 2, 4,5
EVOO & ACV in clay

STEPS:
CLCT on 3/2

Step 1: Clarify: Alternate BS then apply diluted conditioner before rinsing.

Step 2: Undiluted Tresemme Natural. Steam for 30-45 minutes.

Step 3: Clay for 1-2 hours.

Step 4/5: spray leave-in a d apply gel in thin layers until I get my desired look.

I plan to continue to complete the full regimen every 3 days, CW every other night and baggy overnight and water spritz throughout the day. I need to take a trip to Sally's to stock up on conditioning caps because I don't like using it more than once, especially if its been on for a whole day and stretched out.

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[tashboog]

Ok so I also tried Dubaidee4c modified MHM thanks to faithVA and I must admit that so far I like it. So these are the steps that I did:
Step 1: Clarify with Kinky Curly Come clean
Step 2: Dubai CLCT
Step 3: Dubai clay rinse
Step 4: Diluted ACV and KCCC
My hair actually did really well with this regimen and it is way shorter which will help during those midweek wash days . I'm not going to be wearing my hair out until April, but I wanted to know if this would work. Granted I don't have a lot of curl definition but I do feel that my hair did better with this regimen. I also washed again the following day and I saw a little more coil definition. This time I used diluted AVJ and no gel since I'm going back to the bald spot regimen which is baggying 24-7. I'm hoping by April I'll have more hydration so that I can actually wear a wash n go. If not, then I'll just stick with my braid outs and twist outs until I can get more hydration.
1st & 4th pic: After clay no product
2nd & 5th pic: ACV rinse with KCCC
3rd pic: Air dried froish hair

 

[trebell]

My hair is not taking any products it seems. I can't do my wash and go's. I'm trying now. I'll take a pic when I'm done. ETA: Roots are so frizzy. Since I started last year I cannot get my roots tamed.

ITA: where's FaithVa

 

[discodumpling]

This is yesterdays result after DC, Clay, Leave-in, CURL ACTIVATOR, and gel. I ain't never scared of glycerine adding this 3rd unapproved MHM layer produces the best wash n go hair for me. I've been on this regi for a little over a month and I love it...cause i'm lazy

 

[trebell]

This is yesterdays result after DC, Clay, Leave-in, CURL ACTIVATOR, and gel. I ain't never scared of glycerine adding this 3rd unapproved MHM layer produces the best wash n go hair for me. I've been on this regi for a little over a month and I love it...cause i'm lazy

Lol you're a rebel! It looks good. I notice you have weak temples like me.

 

[Ajna]

I have no idea if I attached these photos properly, but these are my curls yesterday after wash day - it is about 50% dry with gel.

Still a newbie at this method but after two weeks I can see it is working and I decided to stick with it as my regimen. So far my curls are popping more and my hair is far less tangled. I have not run a comb through my hair since I started and for the most part I have been able to successfully finger detangle. Did I mention I am not loosing that much hair anymore so that is awesome.

It is interesting that my curls are clumping more and more at the base...there are some parts of my hair that curl all the way through but others remain frizzy and less defined. I think 7 days is not long enough for me.


I have gotten my routine down to about 90 minutes and most of that time is me doing nothing. I start off with the baking soda (4 oz of water, a few squirts of conditioner and a tablespoon of baking soda) massage that into my head for about 2-3 minutes. Rinse apply DC at full strength and steam for 20 minutes while my hair is cooling down I make my clay mix (bentonite stays on for 15-20 mins while rhassoul stays on for 30-45). Rinse and then rinse with my tea rinse (this is a must for me - my hair loves all things irish moss, slippery elm or marshmallow) squeeze the excess out and use my leave in with gel.

I find it does better when I do it all in one day than the night before.

Epic fails to share:

My beloved Qhemet moringa tree conditioning ghee does not work well at all as a leave in - made my hair rough and hard - not giving up though going to try on dry hair

Coconut oil is officially the devil however coconut milk is amazing!!

Trying to recreate the anita grant rhassoul cubes went terribly wrong!!

Anyways really glad I found this method. I think I will probably fall back to every other or every third day.

Side note I have no idea how to take pics of my hair ...

 

[faithVA]

Thanks so much! Can you post a link to your blog or PM me?

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I'm on my phone but I will get it to you when I get to a PC.

 

[HopefulOne]

This is yesterdays result after DC, Clay, Leave-in, CURL ACTIVATOR, and gel. I ain't never scared of glycerine adding this 3rd unapproved MHM layer produces the best wash n go hair for me. I've been on this regi for a little over a month and I love it...cause i'm lazy

I sometimes use activator too because I do the method every three days I can't lose that much moisture in two days plus I cowash in between.