MHM Hangout

[trebell]

OK. I think 10 times is sufficient. Some people find doing it more often helps but I haven't found doing it more frequently to do anything. So don't be discouraged if a week of doing it doesn't produce any change. Pinkecube has said some hair can take 6 to 8 months with doing it every 3 days. Just stay consistent with your every 3 days and do your clct at least once a month. You can also try leaving your clay on a bit longer between 30 minutes to one hour. I see changes in my hair every 5 to 7 washes. So maybe track your progress across a few weeks.

Ok. My hair seems very resistant for some reason.

 

[faithVA]

Ok. My hair seems very resistant for some reason.

You can always reach out to msdeekay or DubaiDee and get their opinion. Well I know what DubaiDee will tell you You can check with msdeekay. They are usually willing to help.

 

[HopefulOne]

Not in the modified version. There are only 3 steps in the modified version 1. CLCT every 2 to 4 weeks. (DC step, moisture and protein) 2. Clay wash/rinse or water rinse 3. Gel (oil optional) You only clarify with shampoo 1x before starting the modified regimen if needed. A person who hasn't started MHM would do the clarifying shampoo. A person who has previously done MHM would do the clarifying shampoo only if they have stalled in their progress, have conditioner build up or have been using heavy products like butters, balms or no-no ingredients.

Think I have finally the steps are clay and gel unless you are doing a CLT.

 

[aharri23]

I'm 3 weeks into the modified MHM im loving it so far. I was playing in my hair today and found some matting at the roots in one area. I guess I need to be more thorough with my detangling. If I get anymore matting I will add conditioner back into my regimen but only once a week for a proper detangle.

 

[hairtimes5]

Have you ever checked out protective princess ytube page? She was having great progress with MHM and then had issues and stopped. I think she modified it but I don't remember how.

I would chill with all MHM steps for now. If your hair likes shampoo maybe use a ph balanced shampoo and just do rotating moisturizing and protein conditioners based on your hairs porosity until your hair returns to normal.

I don't think continuing the method once your hair is off will result in a good outcome.

I've checked her out before but I wasn't having issues at the time so I didn't pay much attention. Will go back and look at her vids again.

I did alot of reading on dubaidee's IG page today. It was very helpful to read her comments, it filled in some holes I felt were in the blog post about her modified method. I did her method tonight using Naturalicious Moroccan rhassoul 5-in-1 clay treatment. It's supposed to be a cleanser, detangler, conditioner, deep conditioner and leave-in all in one. I did my hair in 4 sections as usual but this time I rinsed each section after detangling so the clay wouldn't be on my hair long. I was able to detangle pretty quickly. I also rinsed with cold water instead of warm. My hair feels really good and strong. I put a little sweet almond oil on my ends and I'm ghe'ing for the night, will add gel in the morning.

I really like the Naturalicious clay but not the price tag. It's pretty thin, almost the consistency of dubaidee's so I didn't dilute it. I used half the bottle and I called myself being light handed. I've got to master my own clay mix. This product has aloe vera as the 3rd ingredient, maybe I should try mixing mine with this. At any rate, I'm starting to wonder if my hair can tolerate clay if it's extremely diluted and applied and rinsed very quickly. We'll see...

 

[discodumpling]

Woke up to stiff greasy hair...I HAD to wash it out. I'm nervous enough about my 1st day and don't want my hair to be a factor. So after a quick shampoo and condition i've got a somewhat defined but clean and not greasy wash n go. Conditioner and clay are crucial steps to definition for me but I had to get that curl activator gel out of my hair ASAP!

Have a great Wednesday!

 

[nycutiepie]

Woke up to stiff greasy hair...I HAD to wash it out. I'm nervous enough about my 1st day and don't want my hair to be a factor. So after a quick shampoo and condition i've got a somewhat defined but clean and not greasy wash n go. Conditioner and clay are crucial steps to definition for me but I had to get that curl activator gel out of my hair ASAP! Have a great Wednesday!

Can I ask why you used the curl activator or maybe I missed it? Isn't that mostly glycerin or some other humectant which is not really supposed to "gel" with the process?

 

[Guinan]

I took down my twist yesterday. I plan on wearing a super defined twistout for the next couple of days and then I will wash my hair. Yesterday I purchased some botanical gel from Target. I will probably do the full method on Thursday since I haven't washed my hair in 3wks.

 

[nycutiepie]

I'm doing the full cycle 2x per week but think I'm gonna start the modified version for my mid-week session next week. I started last night and went to sleep after step 2 with the DC (Jessicurl) in and got up this AM and washed it out and then did steps 3-5. I'm late for work behind this mess.

 

[KiWiStyle]

I'm mixing up a batch of CLCT, my banana is in the oven now...thanks faithVA for the ripening tip!

My hair has been becoming less defined and primarily on the sides, its softer but less defined. I'm wondering if its because I've been steaming less, I've been doing the overnight DC instead. I'm also wondering if my color wearing out has anything to do with the less definition. I'll start steaming immediately and see if that helps and will have my color applied again in the next 2 weeks.

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[faithVA]

I'm 3 weeks into the modified MHM im loving it so far. I was playing in my hair today and found some matting at the roots in one area. I guess I need to be more thorough with my detangling. If I get anymore matting I will add conditioner back into my regimen but only once a week for a proper detangle.

Glad to hear that it is working for you. I am just in the 2nd week and will do my 2nd clct on Friday or Sunday. It's still early yet but so far so good with this method.

Maybe spend a little bit of extra time separating the strands in the sections where you don't have root to tip definition. Maybe that will help as well.

 

[faithVA]

I've checked her out before but I wasn't having issues at the time so I didn't pay much attention. Will go back and look at her vids again.

I did alot of reading on dubaidee's IG page today. It was very helpful to read her comments, it filled in some holes I felt were in the blog post about her modified method. I did her method tonight using Naturalicious Moroccan rhassoul 5-in-1 clay treatment. It's supposed to be a cleanser, detangler, conditioner, deep conditioner and leave-in all in one. I did my hair in 4 sections as usual but this time I rinsed each section after detangling so the clay wouldn't be on my hair long. I was able to detangle pretty quickly. I also rinsed with cold water instead of warm. My hair feels really good and strong. I put a little sweet almond oil on my ends and I'm ghe'ing for the night, will add gel in the morning.

I really like the Naturalicious clay but not the price tag. It's pretty thin, almost the consistency of dubaidee's so I didn't dilute it. I used half the bottle and I called myself being light handed. I've got to master my own clay mix. This product has aloe vera as the 3rd ingredient, maybe I should try mixing mine with this. At any rate, I'm starting to wonder if my hair can tolerate clay if it's extremely diluted and applied and rinsed very quickly. We'll see...

Perhaps adding aloe would help you. When you initially mentioned it, it did sound like your porosity is off and your hair isn't balanced. Perhaps you need aloe in your clay or an aloe spritz after your clay to bring the ph down. If that works you may just need to make sure your clay mix has a lower ph.

It may be the clay is the issue but it could also be the ph of things. Hopefully you will figure it out soon.

 

[faithVA]

Woke up to stiff greasy hair...I HAD to wash it out. I'm nervous enough about my 1st day and don't want my hair to be a factor. So after a quick shampoo and condition i've got a somewhat defined but clean and not greasy wash n go. Conditioner and clay are crucial steps to definition for me but I had to get that curl activator gel out of my hair ASAP!

Have a great Wednesday!

Hope you have a great first day.

 

[HopefulOne]

Woke up to stiff greasy hair...I HAD to wash it out. I'm nervous enough about my 1st day and don't want my hair to be a factor. So after a quick shampoo and condition i've got a somewhat defined but clean and not greasy wash n go. Conditioner and clay are crucial steps to definition for me but I had to get that curl activator gel out of my hair ASAP! Have a great Wednesday!

I hope that everything goes well on your first day.

 

[faithVA]

KiWiStyle[/USER];21219121]I'm mixing up a batch of CLCT, my banana is in the oven now...thanks faithVA for the ripening tip!

My hair has been becoming less defined and primarily on the sides, its softer but less defined. I'm wondering if its because I've been steaming less, I've been doing the overnight DC instead. I'm also wondering if my color wearing out has anything to do with the less definition. I'll start steaming immediately and see if that helps and will have my color applied again in the next 2 weeks.

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Let me know how the banana in the oven comes out. I looked it up but didn't try it.

As far as less defined, you may want to look at your DC as well. I found out that over conditioning my hair prevented my hair from defining. My hair was soft and moisturized but no definition.

 

[hairtimes5]

Rewet my hair this morning after doing the ghe last night. I've diluted Hello Curly in the past but I put it in a pump bottle and it was always slipping through my fingers so I was losing a lot of product. Today I diluted it in a spray bottle and it is so much better. Loved spraying on my gel. My hair is so on point today. It's all bouncy and swingy and hangy (if this is a word lol) and stuff. I used less gel so I have slightly less definition but my wng looks so light and airy. That Naturalicious clay is the bomb. As one of the reviewers I looked at before purchasing said, this stuff blows Terresentials out of the water. But alas, it costs too much for so little. So I am on a mission to get the same results using my own clay mix. Definitely going to give the aloe a try. Oh and I've found a few more teeny tiny sections where my hair is curling from root to tip. Last weekend I had decided to give up because of my clay woes and go back to shampoo, conditioner and twist outs. But I'm motivated to press on now, especially now that the weather will be warming up.

faithVA Do you know where I can purchase ph strips on the ground? I think I really need to start testing my mixes.

 

[hairtimes5]

I'm mixing up a batch of CLCT, my banana is in the oven now...thanks faithVA for the ripening tip!

My hair has been becoming less defined and primarily on the sides, its softer but less defined. I'm wondering if its because I've been steaming less, I've been doing the overnight DC instead. I'm also wondering if my color wearing out has anything to do with the less definition. I'll start steaming immediately and see if that helps and will have my color applied again in the next 2 weeks.

Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF

I used to wonder if the definition I do have, which is mostly on the bottom half of my strands, is from my color since I've heard that color can loosen your curl pattern. But I found a picture of the first wash n go I did after big chopping and my hair was very curly, and it looks like it was from root to tip (which is kinda weird considering it's not now). I don't really have a point, only that I've thought of the color thing too.

 

[faithVA]

Rewet my hair this morning after doing the ghe last night. I've diluted Hello Curly in the past but I put it in a pump bottle and it was always slipping through my fingers so I was losing a lot of product. Today I diluted it in a spray bottle and it is so much better. Loved spraying on my gel. My hair is so on point today. It's all bouncy and swingy and hangy (if this is a word lol) and stuff. I used less gel so I have slightly less definition but my wng looks so light and airy. That Naturalicious clay is the bomb. As one of the reviewers I looked at before purchasing said, this stuff blows Terresentials out of the water. But alas, it costs too much for so little. So I am on a mission to get the same results using my own clay mix. Definitely going to give the aloe a try. Oh and I've found a few more teeny tiny sections where my hair is curling from root to tip. Last weekend I had decided to give up because of my clay woes and go back to shampoo, conditioner and twist outs. But I'm motivated to press on now, especially now that the weather will be warming up.

faithVA Do you know where I can purchase ph strips on the ground? I think I really need to start testing my mixes.

Can't wait to try spraying on the gel. Glad that it worked so well for you.

I don't know where you can get them on the ground. Be warned, all ph strips are not the same and won't give you the same results. I recommended a brand in the 1st post. That is what I stick with after buying 4 different brands. PH strips that test urine and saliva don't seem to be as accurate as those that are used to test other liquids.

If you have any stores in your area that sell wine or beer making supplies they probably have ph strips that are fairly accurate. See if you have any compounding pharmacies in your area that may have some. Vitamin Shoppe sells ph strips but none that I recommend. You may want to check the reviews on their site to see if any are good. Health stores may sell them.

Whatever you buy, test them first in regular water, then ACV to see if the measurements look right. Some ph strips I bought showed the same measurements no matter what I put it in

 

[faithVA]

I started prepping my flax seed last night. I am making two different batches. I put 1 tbsp of flax in 1 cup of water. I put a 2nd tbsp in another jar with 1 tbsp of marshmallow. I will let those soak in water until tomorrow night and then make my flax seed tomorrow. I will probably do a water rinse tomorrow night so I may try them both tomorrow.

The last time I tried flax seed gel it was terrible. I hope this thin version is better.

 

[GGsKin]

Wore my twist out yesterday. I felt like I had to clip it up due to the sparseness of it all lol but I was happy with the definition of the twists. Just need to practice more.
Anyway, I clarified with BS mix last night and slept in my DC. This morning, I finished all the steps (clay, leave in and gel). I mixed my gel to have a 4pH - I think my hair prefers this.
During both clay and gel steps, I make sure to really separate the strands. I was doing this in small sections before, but now (the past 2 washes) I try separate down to the individual clumping strands- if you get me.
Overall I think my wash and go looks a little fuller and although still very wet, my hair seems less frizzy on top.

 

[faithVA]

AbsyBlvd[/USER];21219673]Wore my twist out yesterday. I felt like I had to clip it up due to the sparseness of it all lol but I was happy with the definition of the twists. Just need to practice more.
Anyway, I clarified with BS mix last night and slept in my DC. This morning, I finished all the steps (clay, leave in and gel). I mixed my gel to have a 4pH - I think my hair prefers this.
During both clay and gel steps, I make sure to really separate the strands. I was doing this in small sections before, but now (the past 2 washes) I try separate down to the individual clumping strands- if you get me.
Overall I think my wash and go looks a little fuller and although still very wet, my hair seems less frizzy on top.

How long does it take you to separate the individual strands during your clay step?

 

[trebell]

I started prepping my flax seed last night. I am making two different batches. I put 1 tbsp of flax in 1 cup of water. I put a 2nd tbsp in another jar with 1 tbsp of marshmallow. I will let those soak in water until tomorrow night and then make my flax seed tomorrow. I will probably do a water rinse tomorrow night so I may try them both tomorrow. The last time I tried flax seed gel it was terrible. I hope this thin version is better.

I made flax seed gel last week and tried it. It just sat on top of my hair. I'm going to try it again either tonight or tomorrow. This curl make is not the business for my hair.

 

[Ajna]

Just wanted to say thanks for all the information about the modified steps. For now though I am not there yet. Parts of my hair coil nicely to the root other parts coil about half way and then others coil but are super friendly. It is also interesting that I have major shrinkage but I like it because my fro looks so fluffy.

I remember someone saying that you should stick with a hair regimen for 90 days before you change it and I think I will keep with that advice.

 

[Ajna]

I made flax seed gel last week and tried it. It just sat on top of my hair. I'm going to try it again either tonight or tomorrow. This curl make is not the business for my hair.

Did you get it from target? If so just take it back and that sucks cuz I love that stuff

 

[KiWiStyle]

Let me know how the banana in the oven comes out. I looked it up but didn't try it.

As far as less defined, you may want to look at your DC as well. I found out that over conditioning my hair prevented my hair from defining. My hair was soft and moisturized but no definition.

faithVA the banana worked like a charm! 350 oven 20-30 minutes and sugar was gushing out.

The over conditioning factor makes sense to me. I have noticed less definition after I GHE . I'll minimize my time under th steamer and doing overnight GHE.

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[KiWiStyle]

I used to wonder if the definition I do have, which is mostly on the bottom half of my strands, is from my color since I've heard that color can loosen your curl pattern. But I found a picture of the first wash n go I did after big chopping and my hair was very curly, and it looks like it was from root to tip (which is kinda weird considering it's not now). I don't really have a point, only that I've thought of the color thing too.

It's something to think about, I'll test the theory after if I don't regain coils I once had by next week. Either way I'm getting color, I just don't know if I'll do a henna rinse or a demi color.

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[GGsKin]

How long does it take you to separate the individual strands during your clay step?

I spent about 40mins doing it today. I planned to leave my clay on for 30mins...by the time I finished applying my clay 40mins had passed. I left it on for a further 20mins before washing it out. I think I am just slow, even when I try to go fast. My mother used to say I have two speeds; slow and stop

 

[faithVA]

faithVA the banana worked like a charm! 350 oven 20-30 minutes and sugar was gushing out.

The over conditioning factor makes sense to me. I have noticed less definition after I GHE . I'll minimize my time under th steamer and doing overnight GHE.

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Cool. That's good to know. And glad it only took about 20 minutes. I'm hoping mine will be brown by Friday but just in case I will throw them in the oven. I bought 2 plantains, 2 bananas and 2 avocados. So I plan to use 1 of each for Friday but blend the remaining and freeze them so I have them for the next round.

 

[faithVA]

I spent about 40mins doing it today. I planned to leave my clay on for 30mins...by the time I finished applying my clay 40mins had passed. I left it on for a further 20mins before washing it out. I think I am just slow, even when I try to go fast. My mother used to say I have two speeds; slow and stop

We may be related.

I don't think you are slow. It takes a lot of time to work through all of that hair. I watched DubaiDee's video and it took her 3 minutes to work through that little small section.

I think the more the hair separates on its own the faster it gets. So I'm expecting that soon you will be down to 30 minutes or less.

 

[trebell]

Did you get it from target? If so just take it back and that sucks cuz I love that stuff

I think I'm going to keep it and revisit it once I can get my crown area to work with me.