MHM Hangout

[HopefulOne]

I think people just need to be mindful of whether they are low, normal or high porosity before they try anything. Low porosity ladies can really have issues when they try something that works well for others. We lo po heads need to ask first, What's your porosity and then What did you do. 90% of what works for others isn't going to work for us. I'm just using your post as a bouncing off point. Hope you don't mind.[/QUOTE

I am glad you put that in perspective for us. Thank you and I always respect your opinions.

 

[faithVA]

aharri23 How did you find it's MHM approved? I'm always down to buy new conditioners especially when it's cheap .

tashboog,

The ingredients of the Undone are similar to the Radiant.

Tresemme Naturals Radiant Volume Conditioner
Water (Aqua); Cetearyl Alcohol; Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine; Behentrimonium Chloride; Brassica Campestris/Aleurites Fordi Oil Copolymer; Cymbopogon Schoenanthus Extract; Citrus Aurantium Dulcis (Orange) Peel Extract; Fragrance; Dipropylene Glycol; Potassium Chloride; Lactic Acid; Disodium EDTA; DMDM Hydantoin; PEG-150 Distearate; Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride; Lauroyl Lysine; Methylchloroisothiazolinone; Methylisothiazolinone.

Tresemme Perfectly (un)Done
Water (Aqua), Cetearyl Alcohol, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Macrocystis Pyrifera Extract (Kelp), Behentrimonium Chloride, Fragrance, Dipropylene Glycol, Lactic Acid, Potassium Chloride, Disodium EDTA, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone

 

[faithVA]

If you use kinky curly products and you don't have a Walgreen Rewards card, you may want to consider getting one. I just earned $50 in Walgreen Rewards in 6 months which I will use to buy my conditioners, leave-ins and gels. And I just purchased things I would normally purchase (fabric softener sheets, paper towels, toothpaste, but made sure I bought them during the times Walgreens gives out max points.

And over $25 shipping is free and its delivered to my door in 2 days.

And even if you don't megashop, It's good to have the card when they offer discounts on hair products

 

[tashboog]

tashboog,

The ingredients of the Undone are similar to the Radiant.

Tresemme Naturals Radiant Volume Conditioner
Water (Aqua); Cetearyl Alcohol; Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine; Behentrimonium Chloride; Brassica Campestris/Aleurites Fordi Oil Copolymer; Cymbopogon Schoenanthus Extract; Citrus Aurantium Dulcis (Orange) Peel Extract; Fragrance; Dipropylene Glycol; Potassium Chloride; Lactic Acid; Disodium EDTA; DMDM Hydantoin; PEG-150 Distearate; Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride; Lauroyl Lysine; Methylchloroisothiazolinone; Methylisothiazolinone.

Tresemme Perfectly (un)Done
Water (Aqua), Cetearyl Alcohol, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Macrocystis Pyrifera Extract (Kelp), Behentrimonium Chloride, Fragrance, Dipropylene Glycol, Lactic Acid, Potassium Chloride, Disodium EDTA, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone

Thanks faithVA . The ingredients actually looks better than the radiant volume . I'm going to check my local drugstores to see if they carry it.

 

[NIKKE121]

Have y'all heard that Tresemme has a new conditioner that is MHM approved? It's called Tresemme Perfectly UnDone. You can find it at Walmart, Target, Walgreens, CVS. I'm gonna pick up 2 bottles today

I don't know about this....
The one we can get in the UK lists glycerin really high on the list.....

Aqua, Cetearyl Alcohol, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Macrocystis Pyrifera Extract, Behentrimonium Chloride, Citric Acid, Dipropylene Glycol, Disodium EDTA, Glycerin, Lactic Acid, Magnesium Chloride, Magnesium Nitrate, Parfum, Sodium Chloride, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone, Benzyl Alcohol, Benzyl Salicylate, Citronellol, Geraniol, Hexyl Cinnamal, Limonene, Linalool

 

[faithVA]

I don't know about this....
The one we can get in the UK lists glycerin really high on the list.....

Aqua, Cetearyl Alcohol, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Macrocystis Pyrifera Extract, Behentrimonium Chloride, Citric Acid, Dipropylene Glycol, Disodium EDTA, Glycerin, Lactic Acid, Magnesium Chloride, Magnesium Nitrate, Parfum, Sodium Chloride, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone, Benzyl Alcohol, Benzyl Salicylate, Citronellol, Geraniol, Hexyl Cinnamal, Limonene, Linalool

That doesn't seem to be the same one they are selling in the US. The ingredient list is entirely different than what I listed above.

With the glycerin it could still be used for step 2. You just wouldn't want to use it after the clay step. However, some of the other ingredients would need to be checked as well to make sure they were OK.

 

[KiWiStyle]

Kiwi, I am the first to post about leaving the clay in overnight and the only reason I do it is I want fresh hair everyday. If I leave the clay on overnight I just rinse it in the morning and style. I also co wash on the 2 days I between so my hair is fresh daily. I don't want anyone to think I do it for better results . I do MHM for decreased tangles not definition. Please forgive me if I wasn't clear in my posts.

No worries!

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[NIKKE121]

That doesn't seem to be the same one they are selling in the US. The ingredient list is entirely different than what I listed above.

With the glycerin it could still be used for step 2. You just wouldn't want to use it after the clay step. However, some of the other ingredients would need to be checked as well to make sure they were OK.

I'll think I'll pass on it. I have other conditioners with glycerin that I am trying to use up in Step 2, so there is no need for me to add that Tresemme conditioner to the list.

For my step 3 I use Faith in Nature's Tea tree conditioner which fits the requirements for MHM. You cannot use all of the conditioners in from FIN, just certain ones. I don't have the list on me (I'm at work), but I seem to remember that the Chocolate and Hemp & Medowfoam ones are legal.

I will pop in and give the full list of legal ones from Faith in Nature in a few days time. It's on my mum's pc and I won't be going to see her for a few days.

She's doing it too, and she's VERY exited by the result!

 

[NIKKE121]

I'll think I'll pass on it. I have other conditioners with glycerin that I am trying to use up in Step 2, so there is no need for me to add that Tresemme conditioner to the list.

For my step 3 I use Faith in Nature's Tea tree conditioner which fits the requirements for MHM. You cannot use all of the conditioners in from FIN, just certain ones. I don't have the list on me (I'm at work), but I seem to remember that the Chocolate and Hemp & Medowfoam ones are legal.

I will pop in and give the full list of legal ones from Faith in Nature in a few days time. It's on my mum's pc and I won't be going to see her for a few days.

She's doing it too, and she's VERY exited by the result!

Sorry I forgot the link to the conditioners. Obtainable at health food shops, some Holland and Barratts and some TK Maxx shops.

HTH

NIKKE

https://www.faithinnature.co.uk/conditioner

 

[KiWiStyle]

This journey to MH has been an unpredictable road. I started this morning with with continued protein overload from the clay/coconut milk gone wrong, then DC with an unapproved conditioner that made my hair feel soft and well conditioned and now I'm looking in the mirror after applying KCKT & KCCC and looking at more defined coils than I've had to date.

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[faithVA]

This journey to MH has been an unpredictable road. I started this morning with with continued protein overload from the clay/coconut milk gone wrong, then DC with an unapproved conditioner that made my hair feel soft and well conditioned and now I'm looking in the mirror after applying KCKT & KCCC and looking at more defined coils than I've had to date.

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It's probably because you used a real deep conditioner for step 2. Just my opinion. You probably want to keep one in your arsenal. You may not be able to use an instant conditioner in place of a deep conditioner right now and get the moisture you need.

 

[KiWiStyle]

It's probably because you used a real deep conditioner for step 2. Just my opinion. You probably want to keep one in your arsenal. You may not be able to use an instant conditioner in place of a deep conditioner right now and get the moisture you need.

I agree. That's why I asked up thread which approved DC anyone has experience with. I wish there were options on the ground so that I could return it if need be. I also didn't disturb my coils much while applying my leave in, I need to be able to spray my leave in on as to not disturb my coils as much. I'll be experimenting with these changes for a few weeks to see what happens.

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[faithVA]

I agree. That's why I asked up thread which approved DC anyone has experience with. I wish there were options on the ground so that I could return it if need be. I also didn't disturb my coils much while applying my leave in, I need to be able to spray my leave in on as to not disturb my coils as much. I'll be experimenting with these changes for a few weeks to see what happens.

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Someone will respond probably later today. I didn't because I'm not using an approved DC. If I submitted it, it probably would be approved but I've never done that.

Let us know how spraying it on goes. My hair did seem better when I used the watery leave-in and just drizzled it on my hair.

 

[KiWiStyle]

Someone will respond probably later today. I didn't because I'm not using an approved DC. If I submitted it, it probably would be approved but I've never done that.

Let us know how spraying it on goes. My hair did seem better when I used the watery leave-in and just drizzled it on my hair.

You should really submit it...if you tell me how, I'll do it, Lol. I know I have a spray bottle somewhere around here, if its a success I'll report back and most likely I will use KCKT.

ETA: I found a bottle of Curls Lavish Curls that has a spray cap so I just poured the little bit left out and washed the bottle.

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[faithVA]

You should really submit it...if you tell me how, I'll do it, Lol. I know I have a spray bottle somewhere around here, if its a success I'll report back and most likely I will use KCKT.

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OK. I sent an email to MsDeekay.

I probably won't stop using it but I will at least know whether I can recommend it to others.

 

[KiWiStyle]

OK. I sent an email to MsDeekay.

I probably won't stop using it but I will at least know whether I can recommend it to others.

Exactly!

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[HopefulOne]

Someone will respond probably later today. I didn't because I'm not using an approved DC. If I submitted it, it probably would be approved but I've never done that. Let us know how spraying it on goes. My hair did seem better when I used the watery leave-in and just drizzled it on my hair.

I take a water bottle and put a small amount of the leave-in and fill the rest with water and shake it very well. My leave-ins and conditioners are very very diluted. I am a low porosity 3c with total definition.

 

[KiWiStyle]

I take a water bottle and put a small amount of the leave-in and fill the rest with water and shake it very well. My leave-ins and conditioners are very very diluted. I am a low porosity 3c with total definition.

HopefulOne do you use distilled water to dilute your leave in or just regular tap?

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[faithVA]

I take a water bottle and put a small amount of the leave-in and fill the rest with water and shake it very well. My leave-ins and conditioners are very very diluted. I am a low porosity 3c with total definition.

I've only done it once, but I am finding that the way you do it works very well. And its just enough leave-in to give it a little slip but it doesn't cause my hair to frizz. Saves a lot of product and its easy to apply. I'm a low po 4b with very little definition. But this way saves the little definition I do have.

 

[HopefulOne]

HopefulOne do you use distilled water to dilute your leave in or just regular tap? Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF

What a great question. I have been using tap but now I will use bottled water or distilled.

 

[aharri23]

I picked up some Tresemme Perfectly UnDone conditioner at my local walmart. They had 6 of them in stock but I only bought 3. They were $4.98 each.

 

[faithVA]

I picked up some Tresemme Perfectly UnDone conditioner at my local walmart. They had 6 of them in stock but I only bought 3. They were $4.98 each.

Are you going to try it today? Let us know how you like it and how it compares to the Radiant Volume

 

[aharri23]

Are you going to try it today? Let us know how you like it and how it compares to the Radiant Volume

Yeah I'm getting ready to wash my hair in a lil bit. I'll let you know

 

[HopefulOne]

That doesn't seem to be the same one they are selling in the US. The ingredient list is entirely different than what I listed above. With the glycerin it could still be used for step 2. You just wouldn't want to use it after the clay step. However, some of the other ingredients would need to be checked as well to make sure they were OK.

I am confused, isn't step 2 where we use diluted approved conditioner for maximum absorption into the cortex? Wouldn't we want to use our best conditioners for that absorption or am I confused? I always use an approved conditioner for step 2. I also heavily dilute the stylers that use. If I am using KCCC it is so watered down.

 

[faithVA]

HopefulOne[/USER];21137217]I am confused, isn't step 2 where we use diluted approved conditioner for maximum absorption into the cortex? Wouldn't we want to use our best conditioners for that absorption or am I confused? I always use an approved conditioner for step 2. I also heavily dilute the stylers that use. If I am using KCCC it is so watered down.

I'm not sure what you are asking me and how it related to my post.

Yes, we are to use approved conditioners for all steps. And I would think we want to use our best conditioner for step 2. However, I think what people would consider best may vary.

Perhaps you mean glycerin? Glycerin is not a no-no ingredient. It's more like a user beware ingredient, just like aloe is. Many people won't have an issue with it in step 2 because most of it is then removed in step 3.

When I DC I don't dilute the conditioner for step 2 because it doesn't work as well. I dilute only when I'm cowashing for step 2. But that's just my hair. I've tried it both ways and there are times I really need the conditioner full strength.

Can you explain more of what you are concerned about?

 

[HopefulOne]

I'm not sure what you are asking me and how it related to my post. Yes, we are to use approved conditioners for all steps. And I would think we want to use our best conditioner for step 2. However, I think what people would consider best may vary. Perhaps you mean glycerin? Glycerin is not a no-no ingredient. It's more like a user beware ingredient, just like aloe is. Many people won't have an issue with it in step 2 because most of it is then removed in step 3. When I DC I don't dilute the conditioner for step 2 because it doesn't work as well. I dilute only when I'm cowashing for step 2. But that's just my hair. I've tried it both ways and there are times I really need the conditioner full strength. Can you explain more of what you are concerned about?

Okay, I got you I thought glycerin was a no no, never mind. I just got myself turned around, sorry for any confusion.

 

[hairtimes5]

I picked up some Tresemme Perfectly UnDone conditioner at my local walmart. They had 6 of them in stock but I only bought 3. They were $4.98 each.

Wish I would've read this before I ordered a bunch of Radiant Volume from Walgreens yesterday. Have you tried Radiant Volume? If so, let us know how the two compare.

 

[aharri23]

Wish I would've read this before I ordered a bunch of Radiant Volume from Walgreens yesterday. Have you tried Radiant Volume? If so, let us know how the two compare.

This one has better ingredients than radiant volume, smells better and can be found on the ground. I think we have a winner!

 

[aharri23]

I used the new Tresseme Undone Conditioner for step 1 with BS and I was able to detangle with BS included. I also like the smell

 

[KiWiStyle]

I'm not sure what you are asking me and how it related to my post.

Yes, we are to use approved conditioners for all steps. And I would think we want to use our best conditioner for step 2. However, I think what people would consider best may vary.

Perhaps you mean glycerin? Glycerin is not a no-no ingredient. It's more like a user beware ingredient, just like aloe is. Many people won't have an issue with it in step 2 because most of it is then removed in step 3.

When I DC I don't dilute the conditioner for step 2 because it doesn't work as well. I dilute only when I'm cowashing for step 2. But that's just my hair. I've tried it both ways and there are times I really need the conditioner full strength.

Can you explain more of what you are concerned about?

I think I remember msdeekay saying in her revised BS post that she recommends using your conditioner full strength after you clarify with BS.

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