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faithVA said:
I've done every 3 days for 1.5 months to see if it made a difference. I think it helped with moisture retention. I'm didn't see any major changes in definition though. It really doesn't look like I'm anywhere close to having enough definition to do a wng. I was supposed to keep it up through the end of February but I'm ready to take a break. I'm going to try two strand twists for two weeks to give myself a break. I will incorporate steam to help with the moisture. I will reevaluate in march to see if and when I will get back to the full regimen.
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Don't leave us Faith, we really need your help and we would really miss you in this forums.
 
I've been using sodium bentonite clay versus calcium bentonite. The sodium bentonite clay defines the hair much more. Due to clogging up my shower drain I did a very watery clay rinse and kept it in for a minute or so and got the same results as if I kept it in for 30 mins plus my hair wasn't as stripped. I'm really interested in clay soap bars to simplify the regimen. Does anyone have experience making rhassoul or bentonite clay soap bars?
 
kiannack said:
I've been using sodium bentonite clay versus calcium bentonite. The sodium bentonite clay defines the hair much more. Due to clogging up my shower drain I did a very watery clay rinse and kept it in for a minute or so and got the same results as if I kept it in for 30 mins plus my hair wasn't as stripped. I'm really interested in clay soap bars to simplify the regimen. Does anyone have experience making rhassoul or bentonite clay soap bars?
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Where do you get sodium bentonite? Thanks for the help.:grin:
 
aharri23 said:
Denise tried no leave-in and said her results got better. I'm gonna try it today

http://dubaidee4c.blogspot.com/2015/02/modified-mhm-update-ureka-why-heck-have.html#gpluscomments
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When this was mentioned up thread, I wondered if there was some validity to this and considered for a second to try it one day. If it works, I would probably only do it on days that I really need a define w&g. I could cowash and and style as usual the next day if dryness is an issue.

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I really liked the rhassoul clay, but for some reason it was so hard to wash out! Idk where I went wrong. It felt a little more moisturizing than bentonite but not that much.
 
faithVA said:
I've done every 3 days for 1.5 months to see if it made a difference. I think it helped with moisture retention. I'm didn't see any major changes in definition though. It really doesn't look like I'm anywhere close to having enough definition to do a wng.

I was supposed to keep it up through the end of February but I'm ready to take a break. I'm going to try two strand twists for two weeks to give myself a break. I will incorporate steam to help with the moisture.

I will reevaluate in march to see if and when I will get back to the full regimen.
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I told you I think a lot...I was wondering just yesterday if the people who get results aren't really 4b/c and that they were 4a/3c all along. Maybe, just maybe 4b/c heads can't be defined...IJS, just maybe. I too have been doing mhm for 1.5 months and MORE than religiously and although my hair is much improved, its becoming more difficult for me to believe my hair will ever be defined and coily or curly.

Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF
 
KiWiStyle said:
When this was mentioned up thread, I wondered if there was some validity to this and considered for a second to try it one day. If it works, I would probably only do it on days that I really need a define w&g. I could cowash and and style as usual the next day if dryness is an issue.

Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF
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I finished the full MHM and I didn't use a leave in. I will report back when my hair is dry
 
I bought coconut milk and plan to add it to my clay for tonight's/am regimen. And no more honey in my recipe, I hope this is a break through!

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HopefulOne said:
Don't leave us Faith, we really need your help and we would really miss you in this forums.
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I'm not going anywhere yet. I'm just taking break. I like how active this thread is. I will probably still do the method but go back to once a week like when I first started.
 
KiWiStyle said:
I told you I think a lot...I was wondering just yesterday if the people who get results aren't really 4b/c and that they were 4a/3c all along. Maybe, just maybe 4b/c heads can't be defined...IJS, just maybe. I too have been doing mhm for 1.5 months and MORE than religiously and although my hair is much improved, its becoming more difficult for me to believe my hair will ever be defined and coily or curly.

Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF
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I really don't think its hair type. I've seen the heads that DubaiDee has done and if some of those heads have defined curls anybody can. I've also seen the small curl size of Pinkecube and Protective Princess and their hair still defines.

With that said I don't honestly know what the difference is. I do see more definition than when I started. Maybe I will figure it out one day.
 
Added coconut milk to my clay tonight. I'll keep it on for 2hrs.
As for a defined head of hair, I think that all hair can get to be defined using this method. I know mine is. It may not be as defined as some but then no two heads of hair are the same. I am just happy I have found a regimen that allows me to really hydrate my hair when I wash it, plus style and care for it with relative ease.
The degree of definition just depends on many variables. A lot of heads in here get great and differing results. All the heads I've seen look beautiful.
 
KiWiStyle said:
I told you I think a lot...I was wondering just yesterday if the people who get results aren't really 4b/c and that they were 4a/3c all along. Maybe, just maybe 4b/c heads can't be defined...IJS, just maybe. I too have been doing mhm for 1.5 months and MORE than religiously and although my hair is much improved, its becoming more difficult for me to believe my hair will ever be defined and coily or curly.

Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF
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KiwiStyle, do you think it could just be that the method takes more time with hair. I know I say this with every post but the method removes tangles so you could have long hair with stetched styles. I never want us to forget theTWO benefits of MHM - definition and no tangles. I haven't had a tangle since I have been using the method and I was losing substantial hair to tangles even while I was using the CG method. MHM has turned my hair around.
 
faithVA said:
I really don't think its hair type. I've seen the heads that DubaiDee has done and if some of those heads have defined curls anybody can. I've also seen the small curl size of Pinkecube and Protective Princess and their hair still defines.

With that said I don't honestly know what the difference is. I do see more definition than when I started. Maybe I will figure it out one day.
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HaHaHa, I need to see those heads! Honestly, I don't know what to believe the case is but when you do figure it out, I'm sure right here will be the first to hear about it ;-).

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HopefulOne said:
KiwiStyle, do you think it could just be that the method takes more time with hair. I know I say this with every post but the method removes tangles so you could have long hair with stetched styles. I never want us to forget theTWO benefits of MHM - definition and no tangles. I haven't had a tangle since I have been using the method and I was losing substantial hair to tangles even while I was using the CG method. MHM has turned my hair around.
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HopefulOne I have the tiniest TWA known to woman kind so thankfully tangles aren't an issue for me right now, lol. Its just that I have been so disciplined with the regimen, that coupled with having little hair, one would think I'd have better progress. Maybe I'm growing inpatient because hat season is almost over and I really, REALLY want hydrated and well defined coils by Spring. I know I don't have those loose curls so at least my expectations are being managed properly
;-).

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KiWiStyle said:
@HopefulOne I have the tiniest TWA known to woman kind so thankfully tangles aren't an issue for me right now, lol. Its just that I have been so disciplined with the regimen, that coupled with having little hair, one would think I'd have better progress. Maybe I'm growing inpatient because hat season is almost over and I really, REALLY want hydrated and well defined coils by Spring. I know I don't have those loose curls so at least my expectations are being managed properly
;-).

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Is your hair low porosity? Try the method without a leave in.
 
KiWiStyle said:
Yes, it is low porosity? @aharri23 you're saying I should try it without a leavein because I'm lopo?

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Yes that is what Denise recommends on her blog. I did it today and my hair is 90% dry. My hair dried faster with more definition. Gonna keep experimenting with it the next couple of weeks, I don't mind using less products for better results. I also had a problem with flaking whenever I use gel so im hoping this will solve that too.
 
aharri23 said:
Yes that is what Denise recommends on her blog. I did it today and my hair is 90% dry. My hair dried faster with more definition. Gonna keep experimenting with it the next couple of weeks, I don't mind using less products for better results. I also had a problem with flaking whenever I use gel so im hoping this will solve that too.
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I'm trying it tonight. I read that the use of leave in is strictly superficial and isn't designed to moisturize but to smooth the hair by filling in any gaps in porous or damaged hair. I'm not sure how true that is.

Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF
 
KiWiStyle said:
I'm trying it tonight. I read that the use of leave in is strictly superficial and isn't designed to moisturize but to smooth the hair by filling in any gaps in porous or damaged hair. I'm not sure how true that is.

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Good let us know your results!!

I am currently using UFD Curly Magic for my wash and goes, here is one lady who said she liked her results better without using a leave-in. Her hair is low porosity too I believe..?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFJqWu82Dww
 
KiWiStyle said:
I told you I think a lot...I was wondering just yesterday if the people who get results aren't really 4b/c and that they were 4a/3c all along. Maybe, just maybe 4b/c heads can't be defined...IJS, just maybe. I too have been doing mhm for 1.5 months and MORE than religiously and although my hair is much improved, its becoming more difficult for me to believe my hair will ever be defined and coily or curly. Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF
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Hmm KiWiStyle

Im a definite 4b/4c or at least I think I am.

I use the ACV rinse, terressentials mud wash and KCNT.
I follow the exact steps. I don't dilute anything and I don't substitute any of the products.

You can see from the picture below where I started, would you define that as 4a?


image-3455672426.jpg
 
Adiatasha said:
Hmm KiWiStyle

Im a definite 4b/4c or at least I think I am.

I use the ACV rinse, terressentials mud wash and KCNT.
I follow the exact steps. I don't dilute anything and I don't substitute any of the products.

You can see from the picture below where I started, would you define that as 4a?
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Honestly, I have yet to determine my own hair type, I don't know if I'm 4a, b or c so I can't answer that question. I just had a hypothetical scenario...nothing worth holding onto and expounding on.

Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF
 
KiWiStyle said:
I told you I think a lot...I was wondering just yesterday if the people who get results aren't really 4b/c and that they were 4a/3c all along. Maybe, just maybe 4b/c heads can't be defined...IJS, just maybe. I too have been doing mhm for 1.5 months and MORE than religiously and although my hair is much improved, its becoming more difficult for me to believe my hair will ever be defined and coily or curly.

Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF
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My hair was defined before I started the regimen, but not from root to tip. A couple of weeks ago I started thinking the same thing, that maybe my hair will never be fully defined. Last week I was playing in my hair amd wouldn't you know, I found two sections, albeit small, that have reached max hydration. Finally some light at the end of the tunnel! I've been doing the regimen religiously since mid-October. From the get go I've told myself that it would take a year to keep myself from getting anxious, but it is nice to see the fruit of your labor so I get where you're coming from.
 
KiWiStyle said:
Honestly, I have yet to determine my own hair type, I don't know if I'm 4a, b or c so I can't answer that question. I just had a hypothetical scenario...nothing worth holding onto and expounding on. Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF
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Oh this hypothetical scenario that you described isn't new. If you look back on other threads many women have the same questions as you have. I think it's worth having the conversation in this thread as I'm sure other women might be thinking the same thing.

I will say this.. As your hair gets longer the weight of your own hair pulls it down causing it to look like it has another curl pattern. That's the explanation that has been given over time and seems to make sense.

Good luck on your journey KiWiStyle
 
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