MHM Hangout

faithVA said:
My suggestion is to be consistent with products, steps, regimen, etc. If it is working, stick with and don't vary things often. Once you have the regimen the way you want it, then you can try something every now and then. Sometimes we shift things often without realizing it and our hair ends up in distress.

I think you are back to a nice basic and you can tweak it ever so slightly until you get it just right.
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I believe I have been consistent... I haven't bought any new products this year other than Oyin Greg Juice (love) and the AIA curling jelly which I used once and hated. I have been doing the revised regimen...maybe the rhassoul was too moisturizing alone, I'm not sure. Maybe my hair need hydrolyzed proteins, we'll see. Thanks!
 
discodumpling said:
Why resist Eco.. it just might change your life. Also let me reiterate the point of max hydration is not root to tip definition. It is simply to hydrate maximally and for some of us root to tip definition may be a lofty goal but the fun and the lesson is in the journey!
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It was my understanding that EcoStyler gels are drying and was forbidden (Lol) for the MHM. I agree with the journey. BUT when you need your hair to look good and it won't and you can't hide it, its frustrating. When your makeup is fly and your outfit and shoes is hot and then your hair ruins your whole look...girl!
 
hairtimes5 said:
I finally stopped resisting Eco and I'm telling you, my wash and go is the stuff of legend lol. I sang the praises of Hello Curly for months, which is still a good gel btw. One day I decided to buy some Eco Olive oil and I didn't like it at first, I was so used to the texture of HC. But now that I have my technique down I'm loving this stuff. I do my hair in the shower so I put a little in the palm of my hand, rub my hands together and put them under the shower stream, then smooth onto my hair while separating my strands some since my hair tends to overclump. My hair comes out beautifully. I walked by the Camille Rose curl maker in Target yesterday and started to buy it but then I thought for what, I don't think my hair can get any better. As an aside, I hope I don't sound "braggy" I just really love my hair :)
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Brag away, I would do the same. I might give it a try once I get my hair to acting right...hopefully I found the cure. Going back to my commercial protein may be just what I needed. I just know that if I can get my hair hydrated, KCCC will perfect. Then I can possibly indulge in EcoStyler occasionally as my hair grows.
 
Finally put some water on my hair since last Thursday. My hair held up well even with the heat. I just did a water rinse and will do clay on Friday.

I'm just sealing my hair with a hair balm and for the summer that is working. I bought some combs from hotcombs and I used them tonight. They worked like a charm.

Everything is going smoothly. Hopefully can just coast through the summer.
 
faithVA said:
Finally put some water on my hair since last Thursday. My hair held up well even with the heat. I just did a water rinse and will do clay on Friday.

I'm just sealing my hair with a hair balm and for the summer that is working. I bought some combs from hotcombs and I used them tonight. They worked like a charm.

Everything is going smoothly. Hopefully can just coast through the summer.
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I love those combs! How did you find using them in terms of them preserving/destroying the clumps?
 
I didn't wash my hair last night. Instead I wet the back this morning in the shower (I still have my hair some up, some down) and quickly shingled some gel through. I plopped with a t-shirt to get rid of any big blobs.
 
KiWiStyle said:
It was my understanding that EcoStyler gels are drying and was forbidden (Lol) for the MHM. I agree with the journey. BUT when you need your hair to look good and it won't and you can't hide it, its frustrating. When your makeup is fly and your outfit and shoes is hot and then your hair ruins your whole look...girl!
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Some people can do ecostyler and some can't. Some people on this forum have suffered from dryness after using it for a while. Pinkecube advised against it for the regimen because one of the ingredients has been associated with thinning and baldness. Some ladies are prone to baldness so it is best for them to avoid it.

I personally have had my own bout with thinning and baldness so I avoid all risky ingredients. Once you have had a thinning issue you tend to become quite conservative about what you use. It can be a long road to correct thinning and baldness once it occurs.

In the end you have to know your hair and your scalp to make the proper choice for you.
 
KiWiStyle said:
I'm just about six months into my natural hair journey and the max hydration method; regular and modified. I am sad to report that my hair is not much hydrated or defined than when I first began. My wet and product free hair looks a hot mess, my dry and product free hair is a hot mess and my hair with gel (KCCC) IS a hot mess when it dries. I'm losing hope that its even possible at all for me and have momentarily considered the creamy crack again, cutting it all the way down to 1/2", wearing breads to hide my hair from my own eyes. I have stared in the mirror nearly crying and saying how much I hate my hair. Its still a dry frizzy mess and I regret my BC so much because I can't do anything to it but attempt
wng with gel which looks fine while wet...I'm so over hard hair but creams laugh at my hair. It's fine, weightless and even coiless. At least I don't have ugly and gray hair tho...I'm glad I colored it or else I might've sank into a depression. Vent over.
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Oh, I'm so sorry your hair is not cooperating with you right now. It looks so good in your pic. Can you post a current pic? Are you sure it is as bad as you think it is? I mean do others ever give you compliments about your hair and maybe you are being too hard on yourself?
 
snoop said:
I love those combs! How did you find using them in terms of them preserving/destroying the clumps?
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I use the widest-toothed magic rake for detangling maybe once or twice a month. The detangling process naturally destroys some clumping, but they clump right up again as soon as I wet or apply product.
 
Did a full MHM this past weekend and my hair responded nicely to the full treatment. Yesterday, I did BS with conditioner cleanse and then a DC with the Naturelle Grow Mango and Coconut water. My ends were ragged so I did a section by section trim of about a quarter inch. Detangling was a breeze. My hair is still not picture-worthy but I don't expect it to look good until it's at least APL. I measured today and it's about 8 and a half inches long which means I've retained 6+ inches since my BC last May. I'm after length and MHM is helping me along.
 
My hair enjoyed the break from being out over the last two weeks. I saw a good deal of progress from baggying while doing clay washes every 3 days, rinsing at least every other day, and doing the CLCT. I actually did the CLCT- minus baking soda/ acv overnight and then added the baking soda/ acv the next day and left that on for an hour or two. I had good clumping after that.

I did the braid out below on dry hair with flaxseed gel, but it didn't get dry all the way so it was a big hair day. My second pic is funny, like I was really feeling myself. I mean it was a good big hair day, but that was not the expression I was going for, lol!

This was one of the first time in my pics I can really see how my self-administered hair cut came out. I cut 5 inches in March to get a layered look and it doesn't look as uneven as I had feared.
 

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Holla4mom said:
Can you share what steps/ products you were using? I'm wondering with the build-up- were you using conditioner? If so, what was your clarifying step, since you weren't using baking soda? I'm sorry it didn't work for you. Hopefully we can learn from your experience and feedback.
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I am so sorry that I am just seeing this post. I was clarifying my hair with the naturelle grow clarifying cleansing conditioner or the qhemet biologics wheatgrass cleansing tea. For condition TTTC, used rhassoul clay, rinsed, diluted TTTC as my leave in. I rarely used gel but finished with natty moist moisturizer and natty butter to seal. I periodically used the cherry lola but not often during my 5 month using the MHM. I did not use other commercial protein treatments to replace the cherry lola.

I liked the way the mud made my hair curl more but it felt coated and dry sometimes. In all fairness dry hair has been an issue for me for about 2 years now that I am menopausal. THe coated feeling really concerned me though and apparently it was a legitimate issue because the Komaza pictures demonstrated coating on my hair.

I think not using protein on a regular basis was really my downfall. I thought since my hair was dry that protein would dry it out more. Hopefully, this will help someone.
 
Cattypus1 said:
Did a full MHM this past weekend and my hair responded nicely to the full treatment. Yesterday, I did BS with conditioner cleanse and then a DC with the Naturelle Grow Mango and Coconut water. My ends were ragged so I did a section by section trim of about a quarter inch. Detangling was a breeze. My hair is still not picture-worthy but I don't expect it to look good until it's at least APL. I measured today and it's about 8 and a half inches long which means I've retained 6+ inches since my BC last May. I'm after length and MHM is helping me along.
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o_O Re the bolded. We saw a recent pic of your hair...stop playing:lol:
 
Holla4mom said:
My hair enjoyed the break from being out over the last two weeks. I saw a good deal of progress from baggying while doing clay washes every 3 days, rinsing at least every other day, and doing the CLCT. I actually did the CLCT- minus baking soda/ acv overnight and then added the baking soda/ acv the next day and left that on for an hour or two. I had good clumping after that.

I did the braid out below on dry hair with flaxseed gel, but it didn't get dry all the way so it was a big hair day. My second pic is funny, like I was really feeling myself. I mean it was a good big hair day, but that was not the expression I was going for, lol!

This was one of the first time in my pics I can really see how my self-administered hair cut came out. I cut 5 inches in March to get a layered look and it doesn't look as uneven as I had feared.
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Your hair looks lush. I like your cut.
 
faithVA said:
Finally put some water on my hair since last Thursday. My hair held up well even with the heat. I just did a water rinse and will do clay on Friday.

I'm just sealing my hair with a hair balm and for the summer that is working. I bought some combs from hotcombs and I used them tonight. They worked like a charm.

Everything is going smoothly. Hopefully can just coast through the summer.
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I love my hotcombs combs!!!!
 
faithVA said:
Some people can do ecostyler and some can't. Some people on this forum have suffered from dryness after using it for a while. Pinkecube advised against it for the regimen because one of the ingredients has been associated with thinning and baldness. Some ladies are prone to baldness so it is best for them to avoid it.

I personally have had my own bout with thinning and baldness so I avoid all risky ingredients. Once you have had a thinning issue you tend to become quite conservative about what you use. It can be a long road to correct thinning and baldness once it occurs.

In the end you have to know your hair and your scalp to make the proper choice for you.
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Ok...I have two areas in my hairline that have been thinning for a while and I'm not trying to make it worse. It looks like a receding hairline and is more fine and coily than the rest of my hair. If I do buy it, I'll only use it on special occasions if it works well.
 
KiWiStyle said:
So I'm not the only one whose coils won't clump. I think imma be a twistout girl when my hair grows up.
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@faithVA and I have been on this MHM for over a year and our hair still isn't clumping like we expected. We can't make our hair do what it doesn't want to do. I'm learning to except this fact, and we have to try to have patience when it comes to our hair. I'm no longer focusing on curls clumping or getting a defined wash n go. I'm now focusing on protective styles and length retention cuz I've been stuck at APL for eternity :lol:. When I want to wear my hair out, I usually do my scarf braid out or a bantu knot out and call it a day. I know that in time the hydration will come but some of us are slow hydrators just like some of us are slow growers. With MHM we only hear about the people who are excelling on the regimen, but we rarely hear about the ones who's hair isn't responding as fast as the pinkecube's or the ones on instagram or on youtube. @KiWiStyle try to be more positive about your hair and celebrate the small achievements with your hair :supergrin:. I use to be down about my hair all the time, but @faithVA has taught me to celebrate the little things about my hair. You should do the same cuz I guarantee it'll make you feel better about your hair :yep:.
 
tashboog said:
@faithVA and I have been on this MHM for over a year and our hair still isn't clumping like we expected. We can't make our hair do what it doesn't want to do. I'm learning to except this fact, and we have to try to have patience when it comes to our hair. I'm no longer focusing on curls clumping or getting a defined wash n go. I'm now focusing on protective styles and length retention cuz I've been stuck at APL for eternity :lol:. When I want to wear my hair out, I usually do my scarf braid out or a bantu knot out and call it a day. I know that in time the hydration will come but some of us are slow hydrators just like some of us are slow growers. With MHM we only hear about the people who are excelling on the regimen, but we rarely hear about the ones who's hair isn't responding as fast as the pinkecube's or the ones on instagram or on youtube. @KiWiStyle try to be more positive about your hair and celebrate the small achievements with your hair :supergrin:. I use to be down about my hair all the time, but @faithVA has taught me to celebrate the little things about my hair. You should do the same cuz I guarantee it'll make you feel better about your hair :yep:.
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Aw, that was such a positive and encouraging post. Thanks @tashboog.
 
Holla4mom said:
Oh, I'm so sorry your hair is not cooperating with you right now. It looks so good in your pic. Can you post a current pic? Are you sure it is as bad as you think it is? I mean do others ever give you compliments about your hair and maybe you are being too hard on yourself?
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I have received tons of compliments but they primarily compliment the style with my face.
AbsyBlvd said:
o_O Re the bolded. We saw a recent pic of your hair...stop playing:lol:
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I was thinking the same thing, Lol...she need to stop playing!
 
tashboog said:
@faithVA and I have been on this MHM for over a year and our hair still isn't clumping like we expected. We can't make our hair do what it doesn't want to do. I'm learning to except this fact, and we have to try to have patience when it comes to our hair. I'm no longer focusing on curls clumping or getting a defined wash n go. I'm now focusing on protective styles and length retention cuz I've been stuck at APL for eternity :lol:. When I want to wear my hair out, I usually do my scarf braid out or a bantu knot out and call it a day. I know that in time the hydration will come but some of us are slow hydrators just like some of us are slow growers. With MHM we only hear about the people who are excelling on the regimen, but we rarely hear about the ones who's hair isn't responding as fast as the pinkecube's or the ones on instagram or on youtube. @KiWiStyle try to be more positive about your hair and celebrate the small achievements with your hair :supergrin:. I use to be down about my hair all the time, but @faithVA has taught me to celebrate the little things about my hair. You should do the same cuz I guarantee it'll make you feel better about your hair :yep:.
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I'm glad I posted my rant because now I feel encouraged, thanks to all of you ladies! I think if my hair was longer and I could do a twistout, I would be fine. Its just that my very short TWA is out for the world to see. I'm happy in that it has improved for the time being after that commercial protein treatment and possibly because of the bentonite clay.
 
KiWiStyle said:
I love them much better than my bone combs, in fact I haven't used the bone combs since.
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I like them better than the bone combs as well. I have 3 bone combs and prior to this purchase I only used one. They aren't really that smooth and they don't glide through my hair. I will still use the small one for rollersets but will pack the others away.
 
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Today was day 3 so I did the modified version; rinse, clay, gel.

I finally semi-measured my ingredients to replicate my results from the last one.

Warm water
2 tbsp Rhassoul Clay
1 tbsp Bentonite clay
1/4 cup ACV
5 drops argan oil
10 drops EO
Left clay in for 1.5 hours.

Here are my post clay results with no products:
 

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