Low porosity treatment

[Lilmama1011]

And how to apply it


http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=g-high-u&v=wEjI6AUAeIQ

 

[Lilmama1011]

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[SunySydeofLyfe]

Thank you @Lilmama1011 I needed to see someone talking about caring for their low po hair! @divachyk is also wonderful but the more information the better!

ETA: I have done the baking soda and its been a real help.

 

[divachyk]

Lilmama1011

SunySydeofLyfe, thank you for the love. :blowkiss:

I've been doing a lot of reading on porosity lately to prep for an upcoming blog post. I've debated on the Cherry Lola treatment but never took the plunge. Her hair looks nice and soft but it also didn't look unruly before she washed. What's your thoughts?

 

[faithVA]

Lilmama1011

SunySydeofLyfe, thank you for the love. :blowkiss:

I've been doing a lot of reading on porosity lately to prep for an upcoming blog post. I've debated on the Cherry Lola treatment but never took the plunge. Her hair looks nice and soft but it also didn't look unruly before she washed. What's your thoughts?

You know I'm waiting on you right? divachyk

I looked at the video but I need a trusted LHCF person to do it.

 

[divachyk]

faithVA, I've read extensively on Cherry Lola and even believe there is a thread on here about it. I'm just not sure if I want to use baking soda. If I decide, I will try it on a section of hair and see what happens. First things first though -- I need to try baking soda to see if my hair likes that. If yes, then Cherry Lola would be the next step. If no, then I likely wouldn't give Cherry Lola a second thought. Have you used baking soda with success?

 

[faithVA]

divachyk[/USER];19209609]faithVA, I've read extensively on Cherry Lola and even believe there is a thread on here about it. I'm just not sure if I want to use baking soda. If I decide, I will try it on a section of hair and see what happens. First things first though -- I need to try baking soda to see if my hair likes that. If yes, then Cherry Lola would be the next step. If no, then I likely wouldn't give Cherry Lola a second thought. Have you used baking soda with success?

I have never tried it. I tried Castille soap once and my hair was so bushy I haven't tried anything else on my hair. I don't see any treatments in my near future.

 

[Saludable84]

I've debated this but baking soda just seems so scary and abrasive. Any soap with a high pH made my hair feel really rough and baking soda is up there, I never want to take the chance.

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[NaiyaAi]

I've done baking soda and my hair really liked it. I only added about 1-2 tsp to 8 oz of conditioner, though.

 

[SunySydeofLyfe]

I've done baking soda and my hair really liked it. I only added about 1-2 tsp to 8 oz of conditioner, though.

NaiyaAi this is me, I really liked it I even started washing my face with it at night and my skin has been so soft and pimple free for the most part except the days I skip it.

I need to really monitor using it as part of regimen (which doesn't exist). I am making plans to start journaling, I hope I can get a review in the coming months.

 

[faithVA]

NaiyaAi[/USER];19210509]I've done baking soda and my hair really liked it. I only added about 1-2 tsp to 8 oz of conditioner, though.

Did you add the baking soda to your bottle of conditioner?

 

[NaiyaAi]

faithVA Yep. Just poured it right in.

 

[divachyk]

Baking soda just seems like it could just melt the hair if not careful. I'll ponder the thought a little longer before making a decision.

 

[SunySydeofLyfe]

Baking soda just seems like it could just melt the hair if not careful. I'll ponder the thought a little longer before making a decision.

I think its less on the ph scale than a relaxer.

Lets talk about ph. What could the ph of low porosity hair be or is that a factor?

 

[faithVA]

I think its is less on the ph scale than a relaxer.

Lets talk about ph. What could the ph of low porosity hair be or is that a factor?

I think you are right, that the ph is lower than a relaxer. Maybe the question is, what is a good ph to open up the cuticles of low porosity hair?

Perhaps this is why I like Terressentials. The ph of the mudwash is higher than most shampoos but probably less than castille soap.

I've never been diligent with testing the ph of my products.

 

[SunySydeofLyfe]

Curly Nikki i think has good article on ph and how to effectively use products to return/get to hairs optimum ph. Let me look for it.

I wonder if optimum Ph for hair is 5 could us low po haired be lets say at 3... More acidic thus the need to raise the ph in our hair for it to benefit from deep conditioning.....

 

[Saludable84]

I'm intrigued by baking soda and it might be good for cooler months, since in the winter my cuticles are impossible, I could give it a try, but I'm still skeptical.

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[SunySydeofLyfe]

Curly Nikki i think has good article on ph and how to effectively use products to return/get to hairs optimum ph. Let me look for it.

I wonder if optimum Ph for hair is 5 could us low po haired be lets say at 3... More acidic thus the need to raise the ph in our hair for it to benefit from deep conditioning.....

 

[divachyk]

SunySydeofLyfe faithVA, yes - baking soda is lower than a relaxer but what scares me is I would have to mix and formulate baking soda whereas a relaxer is already prepped and ready to go. I purchased ph strips to conduct an experiment for this very reason. I've been testing all my products and seeing how my hair responds. My hair tangles so badly so I got to wondering, is it product ph? Nix08 helped me formulate this question. What I'm finding thus far, my hair prefers products with ph of 5 or 6 opposed to 3 or 4. I've not experimented enough to be able to conclude anything but this is my conclusion thus far.

ETA: Saludable84, I may try baking soda only because all my research is suggesting it's a good thing for low porosity. I won't try it until I know for certain what a good formula is. I was reading an article that suggested cowashing doesn't work for low porosity because the conditioners usually are all low ph. I read some were using baking soda to lift the cuticles before cowashing to ensure the cowash had benefit to the hair. I've not tested this yet though.

 

[faithVA]

divachyk[/USER];19215169]SunySydeofLyfe faithVA, yes - baking soda is lower than a relaxer but what scares me is I would have to mix and formulate baking soda whereas a relaxer is already prepped and ready to go. I purchased ph strips to conduct an experiment for this very reason. I've been testing all my products and seeing how my hair responds. My hair tangles so badly so I got to wondering, is it product ph? Nix08 helped me formulate this question. What I'm finding thus far, my hair prefers products with ph of 5 or 6 opposed to 3 or 4. I've not experimented enough to be able to conclude anything but this is my conclusion thus far.

ETA: Saludable84, I may try baking soda only because all my research is suggesting it's a good thing for low porosity. I won't try it until I know for certain what a good formula is. I was reading an article that suggested cowashing doesn't work for low porosity because the conditioners usually are all low ph. I read some were using baking soda to lift the cuticles before cowashing to ensure the cowash had benefit to the hair. I've not tested this yet though.

Did you have products in the 3 or 4 range? Do you have examples?

To balance your hair out, I would agree you want to be between 4.5 and 5.5. But when we are talking about opening the cuticle we would want to be above the ph of water which is a 7. I think the question each person needs to ask themselves is what range between 7 and 10 works for them.

The ph of baking soda is a 9 and castille is a 10.

Dang: Did you update this while I was still typing

 

[faithVA]

divachyk, if you can find a product that is already in the correct ph range, then you don't have to bother with the baking soda. It doesn't really matter what you use to get the ph to the right number. And open cuticle is an open cuticle.

 

[divachyk]

faithVA, I have a water filter and my water is 6 based on my test strips. My hair feels moisturized and the cuticles don't feel roughed up around ph 5-6 - Aubrey Organics White Camellia, Loose Leaf Tea Rinses. My hair feels very roughed up when using 3-4 - Oyin Juices & Berries, Aloe Vera, Apple Cider Vinegar. That's about all I've tested thus far. @ETA: I'm starting to believe 1) my test strips are reading differently or 2) all hair requires a different PH to feel good.

 

[faithVA]

divachyk[/USER];19215211]faithVA, I have a water filter and my water is 6 based on my test strips. My hair feels moisturized and the cuticles don't feel roughed up around ph 5-6 - Aubrey Organics White Camellia, Loose Leaf Tea Rinses. My hair feels very roughed up when using 3-4 - Oyin Juices & Berries, Aloe Vera, Apple Cider Vinegar. That's about all I've tested thus far. @ETA: I'm starting to believe 1) my test strips are reading differently or 2) all hair requires a different PH to feel good.

I don't think so. Hair is naturally at a ph of 4.5 to 5.5. So your range 5 to 6 is still within that range. My water is at a 7 and my hair feels fine.

I don't know about dropping below 4 because I rarely do it. I put AVG in things but not straight on my hair. I don't remember the last time I used ACV. I did test my mudwash a few other things a while back but I don't remember the exact number. I know it was above an 8.

I need to get some better ph strips. I have some but you have to match colors

This sounds like a good experiment for 2014.

 

[divachyk]

faithVA, I didn't purposely drop below 4. I was just buying products without any thought to ph. For those products below 4, like Oyin Juices & Berries, I will see if I can add water or some other liquid to raise the ph.

 

[faithVA]

faithVA, I didn't purposely drop below 4. I was just buying products without any thought to ph. For those products below 4, like Oyin Juices & Berries, I will see if I can add water or some other liquid to raise the ph.

I will order some ph strips this week and do some baking soda/water ph experiments and let you know. I will keep you posted.

I think you feel like me. If you can control the process, you will feel more comfortable. I'm not for putting things on my head all willy nilly because my hair goes into full combat mode. I bought some Yes to Carrots and although I like carrots, um my hair did not The barracuda came out in her and she never let me forget it So I don't play with her anymore. She's the boss.

 

[divachyk]

I will order some ph strips this week and do some baking soda/water ph experiments and let you know. I will keep you posted.

I think you feel like me. If you can control the process, you will feel more comfortable. I'm not for putting things on my head all willy nilly because my hair goes into full combat mode. I bought some Yes to Carrots and although I like carrots, um my hair did not The barracuda came out in her and she never let me forget it So I don't play with her anymore. She's the boss.

barracuda got me rolling! Thanks for the laugh. I will experiment also. Maybe we can help each other out on this one. We're definitely of the same thought process. faithVA

 

[Saludable84]

SunySydeofLyfe faithVA, yes - baking soda is lower than a relaxer but what scares me is I would have to mix and formulate baking soda whereas a relaxer is already prepped and ready to go. I purchased ph strips to conduct an experiment for this very reason. I've been testing all my products and seeing how my hair responds. My hair tangles so badly so I got to wondering, is it product ph? Nix08 helped me formulate this question. What I'm finding thus far, my hair prefers products with ph of 5 or 6 opposed to 3 or 4. I've not experimented enough to be able to conclude anything but this is my conclusion thus far.

ETA: Saludable84, I may try baking soda only because all my research is suggesting it's a good thing for low porosity. I won't try it until I know for certain what a good formula is. I was reading an article that suggested cowashing doesn't work for low porosity because the conditioners usually are all low ph. I read some were using baking soda to lift the cuticles before cowashing to ensure the cowash had benefit to the hair. I've not tested this yet though.

I definitely know that baking soda definitely works and I know I shouldn't be scared because I relax but it just seems like a harsh process. It doesn't change any bonds, so I might give it a go since Winter's Coming I guess I could start with 1/2 tsp and warming up the actual conditioner or making sure to sit under heat with that stuff. Using that in a shampoo might be too much for me.

Or maybe using it in my tea rinse That is the step before I condition.

 

[faithVA]

I definitely know that baking soda definitely works and I know I shouldn't be scared because I relax but it just seems like a harsh process. It doesn't change any bonds, so I might give it a go since Winter's Coming I guess I could start with 1/2 tsp and warming up the actual conditioner or making sure to sit under heat with that stuff. Using that in a shampoo might be too much for me.

Or maybe using it in my tea rinse That is the step before I condition.

That may be a good idea to put it in a rinse before the DC. Hadn't thought of that.

 

[Saludable84]

divachyk faithVA
A natural told me yesterday to use baking soda to get more moisture in. Im scared!

 

[Dshsjh4ever]

It open up ur hair cuticle ... This natural girl on YouTube I think her name is kimmy did a video on exactly what it does to ur hair