Here's a tip...I'm not sure of your hair length, but I had a time trying to get my hair in the roll for this clip. I tried over and over starting my twist at the nape of the neck and just couldn't get it. Finally I started half way up the head and Bingo!....great french roll. I watched the video over and over, but I guess starting at the nape is for longer hair and that's why I couldn't get it to work. HTH!