Keratin Treatment Support Thread

[Stella B.]

OK BKT gurus, I'm thinking about taking the plunge and BKTing my hair over the weekend! I purchased the 33 oz of DreamHair over a month ago and I have been looking through tutorials and reading this thread to make sure I do it right and don't damage my hair in the process. The only thing I haven't really heard about is how you ladies go to sleep after you BKT your hair! They say that you can't pull your hair back, so what style do you put your hair in when going to bed? Do you wrap it then flat iron it for 3 days straight? I have no clue...help me please!

Hi lovenharmony! Getting ready to take the plunge? Good for you! The process of thinking about doing it is a lot harder than actually doing it. If you have directions with your treatment, just follow what they tell you to do after flat ironing. My insructions (printed from the on-line company website where I purchased the BKT) specifically stated to gently pull your hair back, and let it hang loose underneath a scarf or bonnet before going to bed. It also stated a few no no's like no ponytails, wrapping, clipping up, or combing should be going on during however long your wait period is. I bought one of those braid bonnets from the BSS with a big sack like extension in the back so my loose ends would be completely covered.
It worked well. The challenge is to keep your hands and hair tools out of your hair to ensure no breakage occurs. You've
got a lot of hair to cover (so thick and pretty), so I suggest you get a scarf or bonnet big enuf so your hair can hang loose
inside while being completely protected.
Oh, I'm pretty sure you only need to flatiron once, and that's right after the BKT is applied. No need to flat iron for 3 days straight??! Do nothing to your hair during the wait period, and look forward to washing it out in a few days....

 

[BSweet]

help..need advice..

I want to BKT my hair..after doing some research i think it will be the solution to the damage over processing has done to my hair..or maybe it would have been the solution earlier cause right about now the damage is just about done..if i knew maybe i could have stopped it in time..*sigh*

n e way i just purchased the Joico K pak line to try and remedy my hair issues ..and my hair is showing improvement.. but i'm wondering if bkt would be a better option for my hair..tho it seems bkt and k pak don't mix cause of the sodium chloride in the k pak line..
but...
i would hate for all my money to go to waste by deciding to bkt and no longer use the k pak line..however i also want to do what is best for my hair..

i was thinking i use up the k pak then bkt..but i got the big sizes in everything..or maybe i can bkt and still use k pak once in a while..will the sodium chloride really revert it?

so basically should i bkt or not..again i want to do what is best for my over processed hair..

also i'm about 14 weeks post and my roots are killin me..but im too afraid of chemicals after what happend ..that's why i think bkt would be a better fit for me

any suggestions are much appreciated..

 

[lovenharmony]

lovenharmony, I just wear my hair straight down with a side part after I apply the treatment. So at night I just put on a loose bonnet. It really doesn't get that messed up, so I just smooth it down with a wide-tooth comb in the morning. Most BKTs should only be flatironed once before the first wash. I have to wait 72 hours before washing out the Keratina brand. But, if you have the kind of BKT that washes out the same day, I'm not sure.

Thanks Stella B and sipp100! I'll get a bigger bonnet from the BSS when I get home. and thanks for the hair compliment Stella B

 

[cutenss]

loveharmony, Welcome to the BKT club. Y or are going to love it. Since you are about to use Dreamhair as your BKT of choice, you do not have to wait the necessary 72hours. I was told by *Fabulosity* and sheba1 BKT gurus, that this formula does not require that. Now some formulas do. But not Dreamhair or the Softliss formula. I just did mine the beginning of October, and wash the next day out of laziness. I do my BKT once a month, so I am actually due today I will do it later on tonight or tomorrow. Yes you can use a bonnet, or even wrap your hair. I love the thickness of your hair and so will BKT. Now remember

 

[MarieB]

lovenharmony,

You'd only need to flat iron if you were to sweat or get the hair wet before your "cure" time was up. Good luck, I'm sure you'll love it!

 

[lovenharmony]

Thanks everyone for your help! I'm getting excited I will surely post pics when I'm done BTW, I love your hair cuteness!

 

[BSweet]

Bumping.....

 

[lovenharmony]

Hey BSweet, I'm about to BKT myself and as far as I've heard, BKT thrives on damaged hair! It specifically works well with over processed chemically treated hair since the treatment is supposed to replace the protein that was destroyed. As for using products with sodium chloride, yes continued usage after a BKT will strip the keratin off of your hair and it will go back to it's curly state.

ETA: BTW, under processed hair is less damaged than over procesed hair. Many ladies here purposefully under process their hair to loosen the curl a bit (called a Texlax). If you want to have the bone straight look, then you could just flat iron your roots and use the Joico K Pak line until you're ready to BKT. That's my suggestion, although you can wait for the BKT suerstars to chime in!

 

[AtlantaJJ]

help..need advice..

I want to BKT my hair..after doing some research i think it will be the solution to the damage under processing has done to my hair..or maybe it would have been the solution earlier cause right about now the damage is just about done..if i knew maybe i could have stopped it in time..*sigh*

n e way i just purchased the Joico K pak line to try and remedy my hair issues ..and my hair is showing improvement.. but i'm wondering if bkt would be a better option for my hair..tho it seems bkt and k pak don't mix cause of the sodium chloride in the k pak line..
but...
i would hate for all my money to go to waste by deciding to bkt and no longer use the k pak line..however i also want to do what is best for my hair..

i was thinking i use up the k pak then bkt..but i got the big sizes in everything..or maybe i can bkt and still use k pak once in a while..will the sodium chloride really revert it?

so basically should i bkt or not..again i want to do what is best for my under processed hair..

also i'm about 14 weeks post and my roots are killin me..but im too afraid of chemicals after what happend ..that's why i think bkt would be a better fit for me

any suggestions are much appreciated..

General wisdom is that your hair should be as healthy as possible when you BKT. But since your problem is due to the under processing of a relaxer, it may work out pretty well for you. I purposefully underprocessed my hair so that it would take the BKT better and give me straighter results and it has worked wonderfully for me. I continue to BKT my roots so that I don't have line of demarkation issues, because your ends will be straight but your roots will be unprocessed other than BKT after it starts growing out.

You may need to get a few trims to get the damaged ends off over time, but it will definately get your texture straighter; BKT has helped me to reduce breakage because I don't get knots or tangles any more.

You should try to get your moisture protein balance as good as possible before your first BKT.

 

[BSweet]

my bad i meant i processed under processed hair which lead to over processing..i'll edit..i put a relaxer over a texturizer..yes i know very stupid

 

[me-T]

lovenharmony-i'm wearing my hair down(& enjoying it!) during the day, & wrapping at night. i don't have any bends in it,but last night i forgot to cover my hair before i showered, so my roots aren't as flat. i didn't totally revert, but it's just not as flat.

bsweet-i have an overprocessed patch of hair on the left side of my hair. my hair was also acting up(not cooperating, some breakage). i agree you should get your hairs health on poin before you bkt, but i couldn't wait lol! i have a LOT less breakage now. a whole lot less

so cutenss, i don't have to wait 72hours? hallelujah! i hear the magic happens after that first wash!

 

[kinkylyfe]

BKT, BKT...that is all I hear and I want to try it DESPERATELY. I have a few questions and hopefully I can receive some answers.
1. What type brand of BKT (coppola, dreamhair, etc.) is the BEST for 100% natural hair?
2. Where can I purchase samples?
3. In your opinion...How many BKT's will I need for curlie/wavie frizz free hair?
ps- I workout approx 3-4 days/ week. TIA

http://public.fotki.com/sassypisces/

 

[MyAngelEyez~C~U]

I just did my second BKT with Dreamhair, and I love the results! Even better than the first time! and it seems like my hair a a lil longer, but I think that I may be a lil high from the fumes lachen: kidding). Feels like I have a fresh relaxer. I bought some large perm rods. I am planning to wear my hair curly for a min. I also orders some silicon mix....I'm such a PJ. I think I will order a large bottle of Dreamhair next payday...

Has anyone tried both OK Keratin and Dreamhair? are the results comparable?

 

[Tafa01]

I love it!!! so beautiful! and I love your hair color too

 

[Mane Event]

1. What type brand of BKT (coppola, dreamhair, etc.) is the BEST for 100% natural hair? Dreamhair and Softliss seem to be the popular choices! I BKT with softliss a couple weeks ago and LOVED IT! I wish I could show you pics but the ladies in the Hide Your Hair Challenge (until 12/15) would kill me. I'm hiding all this BKT goodness under a 1/2 wig erplexed
(don't pay attn to my siggy...I've had a lot of progression since June. I think it's due to the Chlorella and Hide your hair challenge. I can't wait to update you guys!!!!!!)


2. Where can I purchase samples? Ebay or Fab (LHCF Member)

3. In your opinion...How many BKT's will I need for curlie/wavie frizz free hair? At least 2...I'm telaxed...the ends came out bone straight, new growth came out like a texlax. Some ladies have done a BKT a week apart...I would probably play it safe by going 2 weeks. It's a lot of heat!

Since you workout a lot, you need something that can wash out immediately...that's why I chose softliss (washes out in an hour)

ps- I workout approx 3-4 days/ week. TIA

BKT, BKT...that is all I hear and I want to try it DESPERATELY. I have a few questions and hopefully I can receive some answers.
1. What type brand of BKT (coppola, dreamhair, etc.) is the BEST for 100% natural hair?
2. Where can I purchase samples?
3. In your opinion...How many BKT's will I need for curlie/wavie frizz free hair?
ps- I workout approx 3-4 days/ week. TIA

http://public.fotki.com/sassypisces/

 

[MyAngelEyez~C~U]

I love it!!! so beautiful! and I love your hair color too

Thank you! I used the Softliss I got from you on my daughter's hair, and it turned out pretty good. I think I am going to use Dreamhair on us all. I really like it!

 

[cutenss]

I just did my second BKT with Dreamhair, and I love the results! Even better than the first time! and it seems like my hair a a lil longer, but I think that I may be a lil high from the fumes lachen: kidding). Feels like I have a fresh relaxer. I bought some large perm rods. I am planning to wear my hair curly for a min. I also orders some silicon mix....I'm such a PJ. I think I will order a large bottle of Dreamhair next payday...

Has anyone tried both OK Keratin and Dreamhair? are the results comparable?

Me...and yes they are. I started with OK. I loved it. The only reason why I went to QOD is because the OK was not available at the time. Then after Fab and her Dreamhair results, I went there. I would use either interchangably But I will like to try Softliss.

LOVE the color of your hair

 

[MyAngelEyez~C~U]

Me...and yes they are. I started with OK. I loved it. The only reason why I went to QOD is because the OK was not available at the time. Then after Fab and her Dreamhair results, I went there. I would use either interchangably But I will like to try Softliss

LOVE the color of your hair

Thanks, cuteness! I'm thinking of getting the OK just because it's a lil less expensive than the Dreamhair. I think I will order a sample and check it out (fighting the strong urge to buy a 33 oz. bottle of Dreamhair).

 

[cutenss]

BKT, BKT...that is all I hear and I want to try it DESPERATELY. I have a few questions and hopefully I can receive some answers.
1. What type brand of BKT (coppola, dreamhair, etc.) is the BEST for 100% natural hair?
I am natural and I love OK Keratin(Ebay) and Dreamhair (Ebay or Fab). I bought both of mine from Ebay without problems.

2. Where can I purchase samples?
Ebay is where I got both my samples. Or from *Fabulosity*LHCF member. You get 4oz of product and clarifying shampoo. I have natural BSB hair. I use about 1-1.5 oz or so.

3. In your opinion...How many BKT's will I need for curlie/wavie frizz free hair?
For me, the first time gave me that. Here is a link to my very first treatment with the OK Keratin treatment. That should give you some idea. http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=365479

ps- I workout approx 3-4 days/ week. TIA
I don't. Too lazy

http://public.fotki.com/sassypisces/

Hope this helps.

 

[dany06]

Im upset. I haven't used a BKT in a long while. I just checked out the soft-liss website and they no longer sell the kit individually. I have lots of the clarifying shampoo and mask left over. All I need is the intelligent brush aka bkt. I dont feel like paying $100+ for a kit when I could get the 8oz bottle of bkt which use to cost $60 in the past. I know getting the kit is cheaper in the long run but I dont feel like spending the money.

I would try out the dream hair one but I can't take anything the requires me keeping my hair straight for days. I miss the one hour treatment. Do you guys know of any easy to get 1 hour to 1 day treatment that dont cost too much?

 

[MyAngelEyez~C~U]

Im upset. I haven't used a BKT in a long while. I just checked out the soft-liss website and they no longer sell the kit individually. I have lots of the clarifying shampoo and mask left over. All I need is the intelligent brush aka bkt. I dont feel like paying $100+ for a kit when I could get the 8oz bottle of bkt which use to cost $60 in the past. I know getting the kit is cheaper in the long run but I dont feel like spending the money.

I would try out the dream hair one but I can't take anything the requires me keeping my hair straight for days. I miss the one hour treatment. Do you guys know of any easy to get 1 hour to 1 day treatment that dont cost too much?

Dreamhair is same day wash. and you can get it from Fabulosity.

 

[Natural Glow]

Im upset. I haven't used a BKT in a long while. I just checked out the soft-liss website and they no longer sell the kit individually. I have lots of the clarifying shampoo and mask left over. All I need is the intelligent brush aka bkt. I dont feel like paying $100+ for a kit when I could get the 8oz bottle of bkt which use to cost $60 in the past. I know getting the kit is cheaper in the long run but I dont feel like spending the money.

I would try out the dream hair one but I can't take anything the requires me keeping my hair straight for days. I miss the one hour treatment. Do you guys know of any easy to get 1 hour to 1 day treatment that dont cost too much?

That's so stupid of them. It's like once something becomes popular they have to find a way to make it more expensive. Maybe they have the single bottle of the BKT on ebay. Now I know I'm going with DreamHair after my last bit of Softliss runs out .

 

[healthytext]

Check the Exchange forum. Chameleonchick is selling the Rejuvenol 1 Hour formula.

 

[Stella B.]

I just did my second BKT with Dreamhair, and I love the results! Even better than the first time! and it seems like my hair a a lil longer, but I think that I may be a lil high from the fumes lachen: kidding). Feels like I have a fresh relaxer. I bought some large perm rods. I am planning to wear my hair curly for a min. I also orders some silicon mix....I'm such a PJ. I think I will order a large bottle of Dreamhair next payday...

Has anyone tried both OK Keratin and Dreamhair? are the results comparable?

Love your dreamhair results; your hair is straight and smooth! I can't believe you're already on your second application!

 

[ChristmasCarol]

I did #2
(BKT #2, that is)

I BKT'd again after 4 weeks. My hair's grown about 1" and it is SO much thicker. I feel like I have at least 30% more hair. The last picture is after the first treatment -sorry so fuzzy - iphone. The first pic is my latest treatment. The diff may not be obvious in the photos, but my hair has really improved in 30 days! I can't say it was BKT only, cuz I've been co-washing 4x/wk and DC 2x/wk. During the past 30 days I didn't use a blowdryer at all and I only flatironed twice.

Anywho, on to the treatment:

I still didn't do the naked blowdry.
Also, this time I used a color applicator bottle - the kind with the pointy tip. It was alot easier to apply this way. I may have used too much product, however. I used about 1.5 ounces last time. I used 2.5 ounces this time. Feels kinda heavy on my hair. We'll see once I wash it out.

I was scared at first because I combed out a tremendous amount (for me) of hair during this application, but nearly every strand was pretty long and had the root ball attached. I only use a huge Goody Detangling Comb once a day, so I guess this is just hair that would have come out earlier had I used a smaller tooth comb on the daily.

I thought it would take less time, since I'd done it before, but it still took 3 1/2 hours.

I'll probably wait 8-12 weeks until I BKT again.

Thanks ladies for all your tips and suggestions!

 

[Natural Glow]

I did #2
(BKT #2, that is)

I BKT'd again after 4 weeks. My hair's grown about 1" and it is SO much thicker. I feel like I have at least 30% more hair. The last picture is after the first treatment -sorry so fuzzy - iphone. The first pic is my latest treatment. The diff may not be obvious in the photos, but my hair has really improved in 30 days! I can't say it was BKT only, cuz I've been co-washing 4x/wk and DC 2x/wk. During the past 30 days I didn't use a blowdryer at all and I only flatironed twice.

Anywho, on to the treatment:

I still didn't do the naked blowdry.
Also, this time I used a color applicator bottle - the kind with the pointy tip. It was alot easier to apply this way. I may have used too much product, however. I used about 1.5 ounces last time. I used 2.5 ounces this time. Feels kinda heavy on my hair. We'll see once I wash it out.

I was scared at first because I combed out a tremendous amount (for me) of hair during this application, but nearly every strand was pretty long and had the root ball attached. I only use a huge Goody Detangling Comb once a day, so I guess this is just hair that would have come out earlier had I used a smaller tooth comb on the daily.

I thought it would take less time, since I'd done it before, but it still took 3 1/2 hours.

I'll probably wait 8-12 weeks until I BKT again.

Thanks ladies for all your tips and suggestions!

Oh its so beautiful I can totally see the progress.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

I did #2
(BKT #2, that is)

I BKT'd again after 4 weeks. My hair's grown about 1" and it is SO much thicker. I feel like I have at least 30% more hair. The last picture is after the first treatment -sorry so fuzzy - iphone. The first pic is my latest treatment. The diff may not be obvious in the photos, but my hair has really improved in 30 days! I can't say it was BKT only, cuz I've been co-washing 4x/wk and DC 2x/wk. During the past 30 days I didn't use a blowdryer at all and I only flatironed twice.

Anywho, on to the treatment:

I still didn't do the naked blowdry.
Also, this time I used a color applicator bottle - the kind with the pointy tip. It was alot easier to apply this way. I may have used too much product, however. I used about 1.5 ounces last time. I used 2.5 ounces this time. Feels kinda heavy on my hair. We'll see once I wash it out.

I was scared at first because I combed out a tremendous amount (for me) of hair during this application, but nearly every strand was pretty long and had the root ball attached. I only use a huge Goody Detangling Comb once a day, so I guess this is just hair that would have come out earlier had I used a smaller tooth comb on the daily.

I thought it would take less time, since I'd done it before, but it still took 3 1/2 hours.

I'll probably wait 8-12 weeks until I BKT again.

Thanks ladies for all your tips and suggestions!

Yay you!! Your hair came out great! My hair has gotten thicker too which is saying something because I have fine hair which has thinned over the years due to age...hormones, etc. I seem to shed when I'm doing my treatment but my hair is getting thicker so I'm not going to sweat it. It's long hair with curlies on the end so I know it's shed hairs vs broken hair. I have also noticed that my shed hairs look more abundant now that my hair is longer. :scratchch I think its because of the increased length of my shed hairs

I prefer to apply my BKT with the color brush and bowl technique. I can control the amount of product that gets onto my hair that way. I never put on too much when I use this method and my hair comes out perfect every time. I also get to save precious product because I only add a little bit to the bowl at a time until I'm done.

 

[Dak]

Wow, sipp100, your hair came out so beautiful and thick! It does take a long time though. But just think of all the money we're saving by being DIY'ers.

 

[Blessed2bless]

I did #2
(BKT #2, that is)

I BKT'd again after 4 weeks. My hair's grown about 1" and it is SO much thicker. I feel like I have at least 30% more hair. The last picture is after the first treatment -sorry so fuzzy - iphone. The first pic is my latest treatment. The diff may not be obvious in the photos, but my hair has really improved in 30 days! I can't say it was BKT only, cuz I've been co-washing 4x/wk and DC 2x/wk. During the past 30 days I didn't use a blowdryer at all and I only flatironed twice.

Anywho, on to the treatment:

I still didn't do the naked blowdry.
Also, this time I used a color applicator bottle - the kind with the pointy tip. It was alot easier to apply this way. I may have used too much product, however. I used about 1.5 ounces last time. I used 2.5 ounces this time. Feels kinda heavy on my hair. We'll see once I wash it out.

I was scared at first because I combed out a tremendous amount (for me) of hair during this application, but nearly every strand was pretty long and had the root ball attached. I only use a huge Goody Detangling Comb once a day, so I guess this is just hair that would have come out earlier had I used a smaller tooth comb on the daily.

I thought it would take less time, since I'd done it before, but it still took 3 1/2 hours.

I'll probably wait 8-12 weeks until I BKT again.

Thanks ladies for all your tips and suggestions!

• Wow! You are right!!! In 30 days you can really tell the difference... Amazing growth and thickness... I like you method....

 

[AtlantaJJ]

I'm going BKT crazy!!

I have Global 4%
Dreamhair
and the new formula of OK Keratin which has a wash the same day formula now.

I think I need to sell my remaining Softliss because I need the 'Big Girl BKT' for my hair!