Keratin Treatment Support Thread

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Hey Ladies - I just did my first wash after my BKT w/Softliss and I have another question :grin: I'm flatironing and my hair is stiff and sticky again like it was when I first applied the treatment. I'm thinking about 1) turning the heat up on my flat iron from 310 to 400 and 2) swipeing until I get my desired softness as when I first did the treatment. My hair feels like the treatment has been reactivated :perplexed I tested this on one section of my hair and it did get smoother and softer. Before I do my entire head, I'm wondering did anyone else experience this? TIA!
 
texasqt said:
:hiya:
Hey Ladies - I just did my first wash after my BKT w/Softliss and I have another question :grin: I'm flatironing and my hair is stiff and sticky again like it was when I first applied the treatment. I'm thinking about 1) turning the heat up on my flat iron from 310 to 400 and 2) swipeing until I get my desired softness as when I first did the treatment. My hair feels like the treatment has been reactivated :perplexed I tested this on one section of my hair and it did get smoother and softer. Before I do my entire head, I'm wondering did anyone else experience this? TIA!
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Hmmm that is a new one on me.... :( When you washed did you shampoo, cowash, what? If cowash, I'd say go ahead and do a shampoo wash. Any chance you were heavy handed with it? I know I was heavy handed with mine the first time :look: But I've never used Softliss
 
Dak said:
Wanted to thank Fab for finding the Rusk Keratin Treatment, I ordered the "big gulp" version off of Amazon (the seller "Sensation" had fair shipping & a good price, 33 ounces, $24.08 total). My package even arrived before the estimated arrival date,(love it when that happens).

Last night I couldn't get the pump to work so I just opened the lid and slathered two big handfuls on. I could tell right away that this stuff was going to be a keeper. It felt like it was immediately absorbing into my hair. I was too tired last night to use heat with it, so I just left it on about five minutes then rinsed it out.

I roller set last night & flat ironed it this morning, it looks so pretty! I've really been missing my Aveda DR and now I have a new "perfect product!"

So, what about the rest of that line? Is the shampoo BKT friendly? Has anyone used the conditioner? Or do you use the treatment each time you shampoo?
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YAY Dak!!! Don't you just love it??! It smells so good too.. I love smelling it in my hair all day. I purchased the shampoo and con; but then took it back because I thought I have too much other stuff purchased that I haven't used sitting her looking at me... :look:
But I found the ingredients for the poo:
INGREDIENTS AND FUNCTIONS:​
Polyquaternium-7 and Acrylamidopropyltrimonium Chloride/Acrylamide Copolymer​
moisturize and condition
the cuticle.​

Amodimethicone, Cetrimonium Chloride and Trideceth-12​
improve both wet and dry combing of hair.​

Grapeseed Oil​
is a natural source of linoleic acid that moisturizes and restores youthful shine to hair.​

Keratin and Hydrolyzed Keratin​
strengthen hair shaft, and help to prevent breakage.​

Panthenol (Pro Vitamin B5) conditions, adding body and shine to hair.
They look to be safe!! But I have to use up soo much stuff.

We want to see pics DAK!!!!
texasqt said:
:hiya:
Hey Ladies - I just did my first wash after my BKT w/Softliss and I have another question :grin: I'm flatironing and my hair is stiff and sticky again like it was when I first applied the treatment. I'm thinking about 1) turning the heat up on my flat iron from 310 to 400 and 2) swipeing until I get my desired softness as when I first did the treatment. My hair feels like the treatment has been reactivated :perplexed I tested this on one section of my hair and it did get smoother and softer. Before I do my entire head, I'm wondering did anyone else experience this? TIA!
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Nope, I've never had that happen; but I do use a hotter temp.. but after the first wash my hair was super silky... after I blew it dry. I'm thinking maybe you used to much first go around.. but that shouldn't be a problem after you've washed/blow dryed and flat ironed a few times.
 
texasqt said:
:hiya:
Hey Ladies - I just did my first wash after my BKT w/Softliss and I have another question :grin: I'm flatironing and my hair is stiff and sticky again like it was when I first applied the treatment. I'm thinking about 1) turning the heat up on my flat iron from 310 to 400 and 2) swipeing until I get my desired softness as when I first did the treatment. My hair feels like the treatment has been reactivated :perplexed I tested this on one section of my hair and it did get smoother and softer. Before I do my entire head, I'm wondering did anyone else experience this? TIA!
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texasqt, did you use the required temperature on your initial flatiron? Between 425-450. If not that might be why. Also, like the other girls stated using too much will give you that feeling as well. Start out with a little on hair that is sectioned. Then use a small tooth comb to comb through the hair, and use the excess product on the remaining or the next section. This is one product that you cannot be heavy-handed with. Trust me, been there, done that. Even made a post about it here, some posts back. I do my hair once a month, so I can tell you about trial and error. But those two in combination may be the culprit. When you do your treatments, touchups or whatnot be sure to use the proper temperature to "bake" the treatment onto the hair. Any flatironing done after that can be on the normal temperature that you use on your hair. Otherwise it defeats the purpose of BKT, and use waste precious product :nono:. HTH :yep:
 
Must get the Rusk Keratin Treatment too. But I thought that the shampoo has SLS in in. I'll double check and post back. :yep:
 
Did my 5th treatment (after colour and highlights) yesterday. My roots had grown out quite a bit since the last time (early Aug I think).

I used Global (as usual) and concentrated on the new growth when flatironing, my hair came out very straight and I've made some progress (retention-wise) I just need to up my DCs (due to the colour). I hope to be full SL by Dec I'm at the top now.

Going back to my weekly heat usage, I think my hair liked that reggie
 
Does anyone have a hair steamer that they are using with their BKT hair? I really want one. Since the winter is coming, and that is a much drier time for hair and skin, I wanted to see if anyone was enjoying the benefits of steam treatments.
 
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I have several questions:

1. For those who work out often, you say you rinse and co-wash. But what do you do after that? Air dry? Blow dry?

2. For those who workout often, how long did your BKT last? How often do you workout?

3. Is there anyone here who is transitioning using BKT? If so, what kind of treatment?

Thanks!!
 
Hey there, Serenity, my answers are below in blue.

Serenity_Peace said:
I have several questions:

1. For those who work out often, you say you rinse and co-wash. But what do you do after that? Air dry? Blow dry? I'm an often worker outer :yep: During the summer I sealed with coconut oil, coated with Aussie Sidney Smooth conditioner and either wash n go'd or wet bunned after. These days I'm braided up under a wig so I coat with oil only and keep it movin. I protective style most of the time in between BKTs and it's really paid off! Check out my fotki for pics.

2. For those who workout often, how long did your BKT last? How often do you workout? I've gone as much as 8 weeks in between. I'm also natural; and I'm pretty sure that with the right products and keeping porosity in line, you could go longer if you want. But many are addicted to that "fresh BKT" feel. Girl, it's better than a fresh perm!

I work out 5 times a week.

3. Is there anyone here who is transitioning using BKT? If so, what kind of treatment? Princessnad has been transitioning with BKT for a while using Global. Fab was using Softliss but is now using Dreamhair. Veejee is still up in the air, I think, as to whether she's transitioning. She was using Softliss but is about to try Dreamhair. I'm certain any reputable BKT would help one to transition.
Thanks!!
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HTH :wiggle:
 
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Serenity_Peace said:
I have several questions:

1. For those who work out often, you say you rinse and co-wash. But what do you do after that? Air dry? Blow dry?

2. For those who workout often, how long did your BKT last? How often do you workout?

3. Is there anyone here who is transitioning using BKT? If so, what kind of treatment?

Thanks!!
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When I first did BKT I worked out daily and cowashed and bunned most of the time.

I would say my 2nd BKT lasted 2+ months. Not until I went back to using my non BKT products did I notice the treatment wearing off.

me! I started using BKT 4 months post and stopped about 7 months post. I used it to get through an awkward hair stage I was going through. I'll be doing it again once my softliss order comes in. I plan on doing it every 8 weeks or so right now.
 
I want to put a black glaze/gloss on my hair for the winter. Any other BKTer using glazes or glosses? If so has it been decided that it needs to be done pre BKT or post?
 
Ok so I'm thinking about starting a Group here on LHCF for BKT users. I know the groups don't get a lot of action right now but it could be useful. This thread is so huge it takes days to get through the whole thing.

So what do you guys think? Would you participate in the group if we had one?
 
Serenity_Peace said:
I have several questions:

1. For those who work out often, you say you rinse and co-wash. But what do you do after that? Air dry? Blow dry?

2. For those who workout often, how long did your BKT last? How often do you workout?

3. Is there anyone here who is transitioning using BKT? If so, what kind of treatment?

Thanks!!
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I don't co-wash after every workout because my hair is fine and does not like all that manipulation.

I have to use the BKT more often as a result, about every 6 weeks because it wears off a little quicker especially at the roots.

To me that the lesser of two evils. My fine hair does not like a lot of co-washing, it makes it shed from the roots for some reason. I use a keratin protein products and my hair is thriving!!

ETA:

I get little to no smoke when I BKT now because I know how to put the product on just right...too much is not good with the BKT use very sparingly but be sure to coat each strand is the best advice. I also focus more so on my roots when I do the passes with the flat iron, I do 6-8 at the roots and 1-2 at the ends.
 
Update:
For the first time ever, I did a blowdry with a hatcher dryer (salon pro gold) and flat ironed my hair with my rusk str8 1.5 f-iron and my hair looks really good.
Really good.
I was gonna go to a salon and get them to flat iron my hair, but i couldn't get an appointment without waiting hours and hours, so...i did it myself. I was done f-ironing in 35 minutes. One pass with my Rusk - silky, smooth, moisturized hair. I used smb, and it kinda weighs my hair down, but- not a biggie.
Not getting an appointment was a blessing in disguise and i saved about $50.
I didn't think I could get my own hair this way. I am very pleased.
 
Thanks ladies for your responses. Everything you've said seems to play a big part in the way my hair is responding to the treatment. Hopefully others will learn from my mistakes.

cutenss said:
texasqt, did you use the required temperature on your initial flatiron? Between 425-450. If not that might be why. Also, like the other girls stated using too much will give you that feeling as well. ....
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You know I didn't really think about the heat temperature being a factor :wallbash: Mine Sedu only goes up to 410 which I thought would be hot enough. My Softliss kit nor the instructions online specified what temperature to use.

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Nope, I've never had that happen; but I do use a hotter temp. but after the first wash my hair was super silky... after I blew it dry. I'm thinking maybe you used to much first go around.. but that shouldn't be a problem after you've washed/blow dryed and flat ironed a few times.
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I know for a fact that I used too much. Way more than the 2 oz.

sheba1 said:
Hmmm that is a new one on me.... :( When you washed did you shampoo, cowash, what? If cowash, I'd say go ahead and do a shampoo wash. Any chance you were heavy handed with it? I know I was heavy handed with mine the first time :look: But I've never used Softliss
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I washed and conditioned with Hairveda's Cream Rinse and the 24/7 condish. It was the only thing I had on hand that didn't contain any derivative of sodium. I'm wondering now what should I do next :perplexed Can I just flat iron again at a higher temp? Or do I need to rewash/rinse, then blowdry, then flat iron? I'm not sure where in the process I need to start over. I did turn up the heat and flatironed all of my hair at 410 and that made the stickyness go away so it makes sense that maybe the treatment isn't baked in yet. It's just sitting on top of my hair.

I gave my Sedu Revolution to my sis (up to 450) :wallbash: so I'm going to have to invest in another flatiron.
 
Hey Texasqt, I don't know that you have to run out and get another iron just yet. 410 should do the trick. Maybe you can wait til your next wash and add just a littler of one of those naughty shampoos to your hairveda in an app bottle mixed with water and give the wash another go.
 
Natural Glow said:
Ok so I'm thinking about starting a Group here on LHCF for BKT users. I know the groups don't get a lot of action right now but it could be useful. This thread is so huge it takes days to get through the whole thing.

So what do you guys think? Would you participate in the group if we had one?
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Hey Natural Glow, I am so down for a group. I think it would be FUN! FUN! FUN! Beside I don't give any advise about BKT unless I have thourghly research, which I continously do, OR it was/is by my own trial and error. I feel the same way about everyones hair as I do of my own. So I would never give out advise/suggestions all willy nilly. LETS DO IT :yay:
(is that the type of group you are talking about :look:)
 
Hi Everyone,
I recieved my dreamhair products on Saturday with no instructions! I ordered the sample size. Does anyone have the instructions? If so can you please copy and paste it here...so I can copy it.... or send me a PM.
Thank you in advance...
Blessed2bless
 
***Okay Ladies, I made a group for us: BKT Beauties***

Right now it's invite only so I'm gonna try to go through and try to invite everyone from this thread to join, but if I over look you please, please let me know and I'll invite you:grin:
 
Natural Glow said:
***Okay Ladies, I made a group for us: BKT Beauties***

Right now it's invite only so I'm gonna try to go through and try to invite everyone from this thread to join, but if I over look you please, please let me know and I'll invite you:grin:
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You've been really busy, thank you so much for all your work!!!
 
:grin:Just think of all the pretty hair we'd have....:grin:


cutenss said:
:wave: BKT'ers
Just stopping in to say everyones hair is looking AWESOME :yep: I just received my Dreamhair in the mail, along with my Sedu Nano Tourmalime iron. So I will post pictures soon. My work schedule has been busy. Wish we could all get together for one big BKT :band2: :dance7: PARTY!!!
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