Keratin Treatment Support Thread

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Uh oh, I haven't PJed in a long time :look:
 
Ok, ladies. I don't know where I should put this but I think it contains a little info that you all may be interested in seeing. I am aware that this thread is dedicated to those who are in favor of the Keratin Treatment but I still think that this info may be of some value to all of you. This is article is a brief summary of a little study and research that was done by Dr. Ali Syed. For those who aren't familiar with his name, he is the science and creation behind Avlon Industries. The same company that is responsible for Affirm, Fiberguard and KeraCare just to name a few. I hope you all find the info helpful.

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New revelation regarding "Keratin" Treatments
By Dr. Ali Syed on July 7, 2009 3:20 PM | 17 Comments | No TrackBacks


I have been receiving many questions lately about the Brazilian Keratin Treatment (BKT) or as some people call the Escova Progressiva. I have now analyzed samples of three popular brands that are used for straightening curly hair based upon "keratin", "formaldehyde-free", or "aldehyde" technologies.

The truth is that they are actually using formaldehyde and in concentrations that exceed the legal limit. Two of the brands use 1.0% formaldehyde and the third one uses about 4.0% formaldehyde. The legal limit is 0.2%.

All of these brands pose serious health risks as the fumes generated during blow drying and flat ironing can cause headaches, irritation of the breathing pathways, eyes, and mucous membranes. Prolonged exposure can cause even worse problems.

For more information about formaldehyde, please visit www.cancer.gov.

Hey lady! Thanks for this info! Keep it coming when u find more! Im always keeping my mind open to the dangers of what we are putting in and on our bodies. Im trying to live mostly naturally, but Im still considering BKT cause I dont think I would do it often (maybe once or twice/ yr) and in the words of many of this forum "Pick ur poison" LOL! That being said does anybody else find it interesting that the Doctors/ science dude/ CO-CREATOR of Affirm and Fiberguard (i.e. PERMS) could so easily point out the dangers of BKT. I WONDER if he's done the same for his own product, and pointed out the dangers of creamy crack (not hating, just sayin :lachen:) If hes gonna be real, then he needs to be ALL the way real and realize that its ALL (bluntly speaking) NO BUENO. DUH!! hhhmmmmmmm Do I smell Company rivalry???!!......................:rolleyes:
 
Ok, ladies. I don't know where I should put this but I think it contains a little info that you all may be interested in seeing. I am aware that this thread is dedicated to those who are in favor of the Keratin Treatment but I still think that this info may be of some value to all of you. This is article is a brief summary of a little study and research that was done by Dr. Ali Syed. For those who aren't familiar with his name, he is the science and creation behind Avlon Industries. The same company that is responsible for Affirm, Fiberguard and KeraCare just to name a few. I hope you all find the info helpful.

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New revelation regarding "Keratin" Treatments
By Dr. Ali Syed on July 7, 2009 3:20 PM | 17 Comments | No TrackBacks


I have been receiving many questions lately about the Brazilian Keratin Treatment (BKT) or as some people call the Escova Progressiva. I have now analyzed samples of three popular brands that are used for straightening curly hair based upon "keratin", "formaldehyde-free", or "aldehyde" technologies.

The truth is that they are actually using formaldehyde and in concentrations that exceed the legal limit. Two of the brands use 1.0% formaldehyde and the third one uses about 4.0% formaldehyde. The legal limit is 0.2%.

All of these brands pose serious health risks as the fumes generated during blow drying and flat ironing can cause headaches, irritation of the breathing pathways, eyes, and mucous membranes. Prolonged exposure can cause even worse problems.

For more information about formaldehyde, please visit www.cancer.gov.

Thanks For sharing Neesee.!
To add to BlackGeisha...There is formaldehyde in nail polish (hint why the nail techs wear a mask) and we are still ALIVE!!!:yep:....even though they never offer us a mask while we are getting our nails done:ohwell:...I def don't use a mask even when doing my nails at home. Those relaxer companies are probably mad that they will be loosing money while we get to HAVE and KEEP Stronger, Longer, and Healthier Hair!:yep:
 
You know what I consider? I consider the effects of lye seeping into the scalps of all those receiving relaxers...wouldn't there be long-term damage of some sort there, as well?

IMO, that's why there are soo many cases of pattern baldness among AA females.
 
Well I did my 2nd BKT today and it went so much better. I actually applied it to towel dried hair and that worked much better for me. I also used a small tooth comb to apply like someone suggested and I used a lot less product. My hair wasn't as stiff and sticky when blowdrying.:bouncy:I can't wait to see what it looks like when i'm done.
 
I have to do a roots touch up, I think I'll watch Brittney's video as a refresher. It shouldn't take very long hopefully.
 
Any BKT users use Wen cleanser? I'm so tempted to get some of that stuff. I'm having a PJ moment.

Wen is perfect for BKTd hair. No "sodium"s, at all :yep:

I don't use it, though. I just stick with cowashing mostly and occasional deep cleaning with mill creek keratin shampoo, oil, water mix.
 
Atlanta,

I did a root touch-up last night with Softliss (gotta use it up..lol) and I like the results thus far. I ran out of the Softliss mask so I actually shampooed and conditioned after I did the treatment then flat-ironed. My last tex-lax was Jun 14 and I don't plan on tex-laxing again until Nov or Dec.

I have a "kitchen" in the middle of my head so I can still see the waves there. But the top layer of my hair (it's more coarse and wavy) is almost straight my hair in the back (fine and curly) is straight. Overall I think it relaxed about 70% of the curl/wave. It's been humid here in Texas and my hair has reverted at all. We'll see...
 
Ok, ladies. I don't know where I should put this but I think it contains a little info that you all may be interested in seeing. I am aware that this thread is dedicated to those who are in favor of the Keratin Treatment but I still think that this info may be of some value to all of you. This is article is a brief summary of a little study and research that was done by Dr. Ali Syed. For those who aren't familiar with his name, he is the science and creation behind Avlon Industries. The same company that is responsible for Affirm, Fiberguard and KeraCare just to name a few. I hope you all find the info helpful.

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New revelation regarding "Keratin" Treatments
By Dr. Ali Syed on July 7, 2009 3:20 PM | 17 Comments | No TrackBacks


I have been receiving many questions lately about the Brazilian Keratin Treatment (BKT) or as some people call the Escova Progressiva. I have now analyzed samples of three popular brands that are used for straightening curly hair based upon "keratin", "formaldehyde-free", or "aldehyde" technologies.

The truth is that they are actually using formaldehyde and in concentrations that exceed the legal limit. Two of the brands use 1.0% formaldehyde and the third one uses about 4.0% formaldehyde. The legal limit is 0.2%.

All of these brands pose serious health risks as the fumes generated during blow drying and flat ironing can cause headaches, irritation of the breathing pathways, eyes, and mucous membranes. Prolonged exposure can cause even worse problems.

For more information about formaldehyde, please visit www.cancer.gov.

Dang! And I was just about to do my first treatment!
 
Atlanta,

I did a root touch-up last night with Softliss (gotta use it up..lol) and I like the results thus far. I ran out of the Softliss mask so I actually shampooed and conditioned after I did the treatment then flat-ironed. My last tex-lax was Jun 14 and I don't plan on tex-laxing again until Nov or Dec.

I have a "kitchen" in the middle of my head so I can still see the waves there. But the top layer of my hair (it's more coarse and wavy) is almost straight my hair in the back (fine and curly) is straight. Overall I think it relaxed about 70% of the curl/wave. It's been humid here in Texas and my hair has reverted at all. We'll see...
That made me :lol: My kitchen is in my crown :shocked: OMG its a jungle up there.:rofl: I haven't had a relaxer since the 3rd week of May so I'm hanging in there but it's getting rough. I was trying to make it until November...IDK about that...:scratchch

I have the Global 4% on ... I applied it very thinly at the roots and combed it through to the ends. I plan to do one or two passes through to the ends and 10-20 at the roots :lol: J/K

I just need to blow dry and I'll be ready to flat iron :grin:

ETA: I blow dried and it feels as if I have the exact right amount of BKT on my hair because it the smoke was minimal while blow drying and now that its dry it feels light but just some what coated. I used ceramic flat iron / blow dry comb and it really got my hair straight with just the blow dryer. I have a Sedu ionic blow dryer. I highly recommend the thing, its fabulous!!
 
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I did my first BKT on Thursday night and I love the results. Thanks so much to everyone who has posted in this thread!

I used Softliss in Chocolate. I washed my hair three times with the shampoo. Then I blow dried. I didn't worry about trying to straighten during the blowdry. I sectioned my hair into eight sections and applied the product with my fingers (wearing the plastic gloves.) I combed with a fine tooth comb continuously for five minutes and then sat for 15. Then I flatironed using my T3 wet/dry flat iron. (It only goes up to 410 degrees.) I went over each section of hair about 7 times. I tried to follow my flat iron with the fine tooth comb because this is what my TR stylist does it. (She probably takes about 3X as long during the flat iron but I was impatient to be done.) I sat for an hour and then rinsed. Put on the mask and sat for 10 minutes and then rinsed.

The fumes were never too bad. I'm a bit paranoid, but my eyes didn't water or anything.

My hair is shiny and soft. My new growth didn't straighten completely, but it went from 3B/C to a slight wave. I was losing 10-15 hairs during my combouts and now I am losing none. I hope this lasts for a while because it will make my transition so much easier. Right now I plan to do it every 3 months depending on how long it lasts.
 
How does acai smell? Berryish and kind of nutty? Or just berry? I'm trying to decide between Acai and Chocolate.

You mean for Dreamhair... all I can smell is sweet berryish...
HTH! I would put them in this order acai, morroccan (honey smelling), and the cacao (only because I'm used to this smell the most..)
 
I just did my fourth BKT (in two years) this past saturday and i love my results AGAIN - lol. My stylist knows i hate heat so this time, she washed me, i dried lose under the hood dryer for a little while. then she actually parted my MOP of a head into ONLY THREE sections. And blewdry with a deman - like really fast - i would say three or four blow dry passes per section and there were only 3 - each had a crapload of hair, so they were BIG sections. she didnt even stretch the hair through the ends.
Then she flatironed at 450, chasin with a comb - really small thin pieces - no more than 3 swipes each. She also did not pressure me to cut my V while the stylist in the chair next to us was HACKING the other girls hair - saying 'its not perfect, wait, its not perfect, this sides not even'. I felt bad for her, that USED to be me, but now i speak up - those days are over - lol.
 
Thanks For sharing Neesee.!
To add to BlackGeisha...There is formaldehyde in nail polish (hint why the nail techs wear a mask) and we are still ALIVE!!!:yep:....even though they never offer us a mask while we are getting our nails done:ohwell:...I def don't use a mask even when doing my nails at home. Those relaxer companies are probably mad that they will be loosing money while we get to HAVE and KEEP Stronger, Longer, and Healthier Hair!:yep:


You know what I consider? I consider the effects of lye seeping into the scalps of all those receiving relaxers...wouldn't there be long-term damage of some sort there, as well?

IMO, that's why there are soo many cases of pattern baldness among AA females.

ITA! Great posts ladies...needed to be repeated!:yep:
 
Thanks Fab! I emailed Ana last night and she told me the samples are now $45 each. I don't know if that is including shipping and exchange rate, or if it is even the 2oz bottles, but I think I am going to go with the cacao 4oz bottle on ebay. It's only $44.83 including everything.
 
I used the liquid keartin on Thursday...I actually like it..I know it's not storng like the other bkt..but my hair was super soft and shiny...with no reversion...i can never flat iron my hair without adding something to weigh it down without reverting..i loved it...my curl pattern didn't change at all..which is fine with me...I just like it as a protein treatment..will post pics later
 
Thanks Fab! I emailed Ana last night and she told me the samples are now $45 each. I don't know if that is including shipping and exchange rate, or if it is even the 2oz bottles, but I think I am going to go with the cacao 4oz bottle on ebay. It's only $44.83 including everything.

WTH?! $45 for two oz??? They gotta be sending you more than 2 oz.. and probably poo and con.. for that price!!! They're the same operators on ebay.. I wonder they are trying to get slick all of a sudden!
 

:wave: everybody,
I posted a link to Dreamahir through ebay in Fab's thread she started last night or so. Well, if anyone is thinking about it they better think fast. It is already starting to sell out. I am about to purchase mine, so I won't be left out. I want *Fab* hair too :yep: The seller only ships on Mondays and Fridays out of Miami. 4oz should be enough for 2-3 treatments. I am due to do my next monthly treatment on Oct 1st or so. HTH
 
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I just did my fourth BKT (in two years) this past saturday and i love my results AGAIN - lol. My stylist knows i hate heat so this time, she washed me, i dried lose under the hood dryer for a little while. then she actually parted my MOP of a head into ONLY THREE sections. And blewdry with a deman - like really fast - i would say three or four blow dry passes per section and there were only 3 - each had a crapload of hair, so they were BIG sections. she didnt even stretch the hair through the ends.
Then she flatironed at 450, chasin with a comb - really small thin pieces - no more than 3 swipes each. She also did not pressure me to cut my V while the stylist in the chair next to us was HACKING the other girls hair - saying 'its not perfect, wait, its not perfect, this sides not even'. I felt bad for her, that USED to be me, but now i speak up - those days are over - lol.

Beautiful!!!! Your hair is really getting long Crazydaze. :yep: Did your stylist use Global again! Fab results.
 
I just realized my math is horrible, but I still bought it lol. Forgive me, it was late.

$39+$11.95 does not equal $41.95 :lachen:.
 
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Beautiful!!!! Your hair is really getting long Crazydaze. :yep: Did your stylist use Global again! Fab results.

Hey Veejee:
Yup, she used the chocolate formaldehyde free global. Im happy with my length, but alittle sad cuz i've confirmed i only got 1.25 inches in six months :(. no summer growth spurt for me. Thanks for noticing my sad efforts! lol
 
Random thought:
I know Softliss is supposed to be known for getting hair "straight" or at least straighter, but I'm not having that experience. I am about 2.5 treatments of Softliss in and I don't my any means have straight hair. I'm about 8 months post and my new growth is still very wavy. This is overall something that I'm happy with because I want to transition and wear my hair out and big, but it does not mimic a relaxer for me. Maybe a mild texturizer (that is way more moisturizing) but not a relaxer.

Just FYI for those wondering.
This is exactly what I was wondering!!!! Thank you... I texlaxed in June ...:rolleyes:not happy with the way my hair , so now I want to transition back to my natural hair.... my card is in my hand... I still have alot of reading to do in this thread...:yep:.
 
It is so nice to hear clients actual feeling about their experience both good and bad. I am a stylist in NC and have been doing the BKT (Brazilian Keratin Treatment) for about a year now and I am amazed about how many people here do not know about it. At least the ones that I run into. I think this forum is great because everyone comes out and discuss the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Keep up all the good work.
Welcome!! Are you seeing many clients transitioning using the BKT?
 
I don't think I'm going to BKT anymore.

Here is why:

1. My newgrowth keeps reverting. Even with the Sabino. That is really disappointing.
2. My relaxed hair, won't wave anymore. Probably will wear off in time, but it truly is BONE straight, and I've come to see I don't like bons straight. It makes my hair look skinny.

I really, really commend anyone who transitions their BSL relaxed hair to natural.

I hit five months but I've decided to relax again.

My assisstant principal got me thinking (I suspect she's on nappturality). She complimented my hair, which I had ironed out, and said it was really going. I replied thanks, and added, "I've been growing it out but can't stand when it reverts after I flatiron".

She said, you have to get out of that mindset. It doesn't want to lay down!

And she's right. I want my hair to STAY straight when i straighten it, and NOTHING has been able to give me that besides a damn relaxer, which is disapppointing.

I have BKT on my new growth, which helps. It makes the texture easy to deal with and has a nice wave. But even combined with Sabino Moisture Block, it still reverts after I flat iron. I would like to wear my hair straight when I want.....

I'm relaxing again this evening, but after this I won't BKT again. That stuff makes my hair TOO straight, I miss my curly styles. Hopefully the relaxer will knock the remaining BKT off my hair by opening up the cuticles, hopefully there will be no damage.

One day I will be natural but I'm just not committed to it right now.
Next time, this will be more planned. This turned into a transition unexpectedly b/c of the newness of the BKT treatment, which WILL be a very good tool for this for me in the future, but right now, I am not ready.

I enjoy seeing you all's results though, and have gotten quite a bit of lenght from the treatment; my scraggly ends finally reach past my brastrap.
 
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