Stella B.
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Yes, its all about options. I'm not saying one treatment is better than the other, because of its ingredients. I just wanted to share another way of achieving the BKT if that's what you're looking for.
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Yes, its all about options. I'm not saying one treatment is better than the other, because of its ingredients. I just wanted to share another way of achieving the BKT if that's what you're looking for.
PinkSkates
New Member
Awww...now this is the best part of this thread, congratulations on your new baby girl!
Hi Stella, Welp, I didn't listen to the pros *womp* and I figured since my BKT is over 5 weeks old I was ok to go ahead with the 2 step treatment. But...my hair came out great, the breakage is gone, my hair was really bad and while the BKT made it soft and swingy; I felt I needed to work on the breakage first. What I decided is to leave the BKT alone for a few months and do the 2 Step every 6 weeks before my relaxers instead.
As for the BKT with Zene, I used gloves, the fumes were pretty bad during the flat iron but not unbearable, I had a fan on and it was good enough. I also noticed that some of the products for Bio Extratus have no-no ingredients, I use them but I use other products as well, I only like the the post shampoo, conditioner and the leave in conditioner, the other thing in the jar is ok but it leaves my hair a little stiff. If I order the Zene again, I dont think I will go with the Bio Extratus.
Let me know your results!
As for the BKT with Zene, I used gloves, the fumes were pretty bad during the flat iron but not unbearable, I had a fan on and it was good enough. I also noticed that some of the products for Bio Extratus have no-no ingredients, I use them but I use other products as well, I only like the the post shampoo, conditioner and the leave in conditioner, the other thing in the jar is ok but it leaves my hair a little stiff. If I order the Zene again, I dont think I will go with the Bio Extratus.
Let me know your results!
Since you are in Toronto, where do you get your hair products? Do you order online? I find the cost to ship here is just ghastly and I am mad I just can't waltz into Zellers and get what I want. Sally's isn't that bad though, I don't find the more unique products in the black hair care stores and I am upset that most salons are still using products like Motions.
ETA: I just saw that you had a baby RIF, CONGRATS!
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Stella B.
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Awww...now this is the best part of this thread, congratulations on your new baby girl!
You're absolutely right, PinkSkates-congratulations to SuiTopi on that new baby girl! I can't imagine she'd have time to be even thinking about her hair, let alone a BKT!
Now Pinkskates, you peeped in here so fast and left this thread, I didn't have time to thank you for the lead on the Zene escova Progress. I first read about it on your website after your first BKT. I know you didn't use Zene, but you did point it out as something you might try in the future. You started me to thinking about checking into it, and I did. Your siggy pic is drool worthy, and your hair looks fabulous! Are you ready for your next BKT treatment yet? I'm trying to keep up with all you BKT queens!!!!PinkSkates
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You're absolutely right, PinkSkates-congratulations to SuiTopi on that new baby girl! I can't imagine she'd have time to be even thinking about her hair, let alone a BKT!
Thank you Stella B and you're very welcome. I'm so happy that the information was helpful!
I will probably do another BKT in late October or November. During the summer months I wear my hair in its natural state, so I'm still enjoying seeing a lot of texture in my hair.
I recently had a MJ party and I wore my hair like diana ross and received so many compliments. Now that they've blown my head up...I'm thinking that I may not want my hair silky straight for a long while.
*fabulosity*
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Hey guys...
My beloved Rusk Pro Elements Keratin Smoothing Treatment ..
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My beloved Rusk Pro Elements Keratin Smoothing Treatment ..
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rusk-Pro-Elemen...in_0?hash=item5ad32f29b9&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
A liter for 25.99 plus free shipping..
Oh don't forget to go to www.bing.com/cashback.. it's only 8% now for ebay... but erry little bit counts...
Look up like "ipod" just so you can get to ebay with the 8% showing.. you have to do buy it now.. when you purchase.. the 8% goes back into your paypal!!!
Sui Topi
New Member
lol I would trust a fellow LHCFer more than a stylist anyway! Thank you so much lol I will PM you when I finally get to color my hair.
Thank you, and thank you to everyone else lol. She is still in that sleeping/eating all the time phase so I figure if I space this out over 2 days lol and make sure her belly is full she will be okay.
The products I'm using now are like Mane N Tail conditioner which I get from walmart, that Pantene Nature fusion moisturizing conditioner which you can get anywhere, and grapeseed oil which I got from Loblaws lol. I told you, my regimen is soo super simplified right now lol. When I do want to go crazy, I usually buy natural products which I get from this health food store in Parkway Mall at Victoria Park and Ellesmere. Oh! I bought a jar of ORS hair mayo but you can get that from any hair store. On Yonge I think its near Yonge and Shepphard but not yet Finch, near North York Centre, there's a Honey Fig store. I never went in before, but if you look at their website www.Honeyfig.com, they have some cool looking stuff. I think they had a meet up there last year.
ksk_xs
Member
Fab you should be ashamed of yourself. Now I wanna try this-you could've said something about it last month when the liters were 2 for $15.
*fabulosity*
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Fab you should be ashamed of yourself. Now I wanna try this-you could've said something about it last month when the liters were 2 for $15.
LMAO... when was that!!!???!
I love it. You must have it. Read..
<<Get it now>>
*fabulosity*
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I said I wasn't going to buy it.. but I had a beautyfirst coupon for $20 off $60 purchase so I got the poo and con.. yesterday..
Have not used it yet... every time I try to scale back... it keeps on coming back...
ksk_xs
Member
August and July at Beauty Alliance. I just realize I still had a free bottle from cosmoprof-I had a whole gift set that I think I may have thrown away. Now I need to find my trusty BA calendar and see if they'll be having the sale again.
ebonylocs
New Member
Camerond,Yes, I see a real difference in the hair, in terms of the softness and texture and it felt better, but the breakage has not really lessened much. I would try a patch test w/ the hair color though, orange hair ain't for everyone
What were you hoping to achieve with Zene, and did you achieve it.
I ask because you were already relaxed, plus it doesn't seem to have helped the strength of your hair. In fact you are planning to get your hair in better condition before doing it again. I thought the point of using it was that it gets your hair in good condition.
I'm transitioning, and hoping to use it for strength and manageability (less tangles). Will it help me achieve that?
Well that's it, I thought it would help with the breakage somewhat and it didn't. I like how it looked with it in though *shrug* and it felt really soft.
sheba1
New Member
Brittany, a member here and one of the BKT pioneers has grown her severely damaged hair out using BKT. She'd said the same, that BKT won't save previously damaged hair, but it will allow you to hold onto length as your gradually trim it away. She has almost a completely new head of hair since she started her BKT about 18 months ago. She had applied a texturizer followed by a curly perm that caused much damage. She's gradually trimmed away the damage while using the BKT to keep the healthy hair that grew in thriving even while she uses heat and only occassionally protective styles.
You can see more about her story on her youtube here.
Dak
Well-Known Member
I don't know if it's been said before, but I wonder if the reason some are experiencing breakage is because so many of the products that we used to use with success are not compatible with the BKT.
I believe Aveda DR helped me maintain the health of my hair and I know I was really at a loss finding out I could not longer use it. It's been hit or miss since then, I'm making myself use at least half of the product I now have, before I order the Rusk Keratin conditioner (thanks so much for the reviews Fab!)
I believe Aveda DR helped me maintain the health of my hair and I know I was really at a loss finding out I could not longer use it. It's been hit or miss since then, I'm making myself use at least half of the product I now have, before I order the Rusk Keratin conditioner (thanks so much for the reviews Fab!)
MissMeWithThatIsh
New Member
I've washed my hair 2 times this week.
My hair is so soft and silky feeling. It feels very moisturized. The kinky curly works well with it. Mixed Chicks... I'm not really a huge fan of, as of yet. My Silk Elements Mositurizing Conditioner or treatment works REALLY well with it
I airdried my hair last night without product so I can flat iron it later today. LOVE it.
I will get the Rusk treatment, ONCE I get rid of all these products in my house.
There's a girl on base who lurks here and just BC'd she might want some stuff.
My hair is so soft and silky feeling. It feels very moisturized. The kinky curly works well with it. Mixed Chicks... I'm not really a huge fan of, as of yet. My Silk Elements Mositurizing Conditioner or treatment works REALLY well with it
I airdried my hair last night without product so I can flat iron it later today. LOVE it.
I will get the Rusk treatment, ONCE I get rid of all these products in my house.
There's a girl on base who lurks here and just BC'd she might want some stuff.
MarieB
Well-Known Member
Same here, as far as not being able to use the same products. I have given away about 80 percent of my stash because I can no longer use it. The stuff I've kept, I use way less of than I did pre-BKT, and I've added a few things. I am shampooing waaay less, and that has definitely helped with breakage. I am now about 6 months post, and trying to keep my cool and avoid touching up. I really want to transition, but we'll see how it goes.
Never thought about that, I am going to see how my hair is after the relax and the 2-step protein and rethink holding off on the BKT.
LoveCraze
Naturalista
Wow you were doing the same thing I was doing. I was also wondering if anyone has experienced any negative effects from doing BKT? All I hear is good results. I was also wondering if BKT's would be good for those who are transitioning from relaxed hair to natural hair? Any thoughts anybody?
yodie
Well-Known Member
Hi, StephElise. Not sure you read the entire thread, but I posted my experience. I experimented with BKT (2 or 3 times) on a section of my hair and decided not to do it again.
You should try experimenting with a section of your hair to see how it works for you.
Enjoy!
Well I did the BKT last week and had mixed results. During the process I shed a LOT of hair. By the time I had finished flat ironing, it was soft, smooth, bouncy and had unbelievable shine. A few days later I cowashed with HE Hydralicious and air dried. So far so good, it dried easily and I had less shrinkage. I did two french braids and by the next morning it was stretched out enough that I didn't need to blow dry. I straightened and again had a lot of shedding and some breakage.
At this point I'm not sure whether I should continue with the BKT or wash it out. I like the manageability but I'm scared of continued breakage or shedding. I could just not use any heat. Would a protein treatment help?
At this point I'm not sure whether I should continue with the BKT or wash it out. I like the manageability but I'm scared of continued breakage or shedding. I could just not use any heat. Would a protein treatment help?
sheba1
New Member
Hey there, StephElise, Brittany had success with sew ins in between BKTs. I have a sew-in in now (my first one!) but I miss cowashing too much. I'm going to remove my tracks, make a wig with some hi quality hair and continue to cowash daily throughout the fall and winter. I haven't decided if I'll BKT in between or not. I don't think so. I think I'll save my BKT for my summer months when I'm manipulating my hair the most. I love that it helps with manageability and lessens single strand knots for me.
Hey there, Ansun. I think you'll be ok when you wash your BKT out. Do a great big moisturizing DC when you do. How do you normally style? Are you a PSer?
Hey there, Ansun. I think you'll be ok when you wash your BKT out. Do a great big moisturizing DC when you do. How do you normally style? Are you a PSer?
LoveCraze
Naturalista
Yes I just caught up with this very long thread. LOL And I also did see where you posted your results from the treatment. Right now I would say that my hair is in fairly good condition considering I am transitioning. I'll just wait and ponder this option for a little longer before deciding anything. But yes, perhaps testing on a small section would be the best thing to do as well. Thanks for replying.
I'm not sure what a PSer is? But I normally straighten every two weeks and wash every week. In between I usually do a bantu knot out. I used to have a big problem with shedding but that stopped when I started moisturizing regularly. I don't know whether the shedding/breakage could be due to me not straightening properly? Could it be the damaged ends just breaking off?
btw thanks for the help!
MarieB
Well-Known Member
PSer=Protective Styler
*fabulosity*
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OK BKT Divas... Your resident PJ is doing another experiment!!!
So I often wander through ebay looking at samples to try for BKT..
So I found these products...
http://www.dreamhairkeratin.com/products.html
They come in morrocan, acai, and cacao..
Course I sent them a note asking a bazillion questions. The rep, Anna, contacted me today and she answered all of my questions.
You can wash it out the same day or 24 hours later; whatever you prefer.
It contains 2% formaldehyde.
The only difference between them is the scent..morrocan smells like honey.. acai is fruity (her favorite one) and cacao obviously smells like chocolate.
I didn't want to invest in a $200 33 oz bottle; so I asked her how much I could try. She is sending 2 oz samples for $10 each. Plus 6.95 shipping.. so I got all 3 to try and will report back to you all.
Here's her info if you want to try it.. I'm not sure if this is her work phone business phone number or what.. but they are in Florida...so you Florida girls might be able to pick it up!
Anna
561-502-9664
So I often wander through ebay looking at samples to try for BKT..
So I found these products...
http://www.dreamhairkeratin.com/products.html
They come in morrocan, acai, and cacao..
Course I sent them a note asking a bazillion questions. The rep, Anna, contacted me today and she answered all of my questions.
You can wash it out the same day or 24 hours later; whatever you prefer.
It contains 2% formaldehyde.
The only difference between them is the scent..morrocan smells like honey.. acai is fruity (her favorite one) and cacao obviously smells like chocolate.
I didn't want to invest in a $200 33 oz bottle; so I asked her how much I could try. She is sending 2 oz samples for $10 each. Plus 6.95 shipping.. so I got all 3 to try and will report back to you all.
Here's her info if you want to try it.. I'm not sure if this is her work phone business phone number or what.. but they are in Florida...so you Florida girls might be able to pick it up!
Anna
561-502-9664
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ooh thanks. I usually wear my hear in a bun, yes.
I decided to wash out the BKT and clarified about 4 times. Unfortunately it looks like there is still some treatment which remains?
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