Keratin Treatment Support Thread

[Natural Glow]

Natural Glow, the pics aren't there?

Oops! Are they there now?

 

[Dak]

Oops! Are they there now?

OMG Yes, wow, that's some beautiful hair!

 

[Dove56]

I need to ask some more questions!! And then I might be slightly apprehensive...

LD and yodie what kind of BKT was it that you guys used??? Did it have formaldehyde?? Maybe I should just stick with the no formaldehyde..

But I am still doing my same regimen and my hair feels good.. but I am and have been watching closely on my mom's and my own hair. Besides the treatments 1x per month for me (every 6 weeks for Mama).. nothing else has changed.

Fab,

I do think the ones with formaldehyde leave a heavier coating/film. I haven't had any issues with breaking or peeling thank God. Softliss has been wonderful, but I'd still love to try a few more brands. Maybe.

 

[Dove56]

Don't be. You seem to be having excellent results Veejee.

W/ Yodie she says she had some damage prior and was babying her hair back to health. With me my thyroid illness probably has something to do with it. I've known people with Graves who have hair so brittle they've chopped it all off and gave up long ago. I literally buzzed off all my hair almost bald and started over as a natural after the effect on my hair. I luckily found that I could offset it with tons of moisture and my hair began to quickly grow out again and regain health. Then the BKT thing has been introduced. So I just have to learn how to offset it too (a way to still get the moisture I need) or else I have to just realize the limitations of my hair if I want to get to my goals.

I've been following your success and I'm cheering for you and everyone else.

I just wanted to share incase someone else has an illness that may affect their hair, so that they can know that they should not just dive in. Maybe try a tiny test area first for a couple to a few months and see how that goes.

I think it's the same with those w/ tons of damage or really dry hair (anything more than the normal dryness associated with curlier kinkier hair types)...they should test an area first.

I'm sorry you ladies didn't have great results. I wonder if a formeldahyde free product would be more gentle?

 

[Dove56]

OMG Yes, wow, that's some beautiful hair!

I love your hair Natural Glow, it's beautiful and the color is gorgeous too!!! I guess I should forget about just BKT'ing my natural hair because my hair will definitely frizz (it's curlier than yours). Oh well, I will continue to Texlax with ORS then use Softliss.

 

[tallnomad]

Yodie--my BKT sis. Thanks for posting your results. You know I was anxiously waiting. Sorry it didn't turn out the way you wanted and I'm glad you only did that small section. I can't believe a piece peeled off!

So far I feel good about my hair, but not sure if/when I'll do it again. It'll be 3 months in October, and I kind of want to wait until at least that time before I try it again. You know I'll be keeping you posted.

I experimented with BKT on a section of my hair for two months. I did the treatment twice. I liked it initially, but after monitoring my results, I don't think I'd do it again.

I wasn't too sure about posting my result because I don't want to turn anyone off from the treatment. My hair was already somewhat damaged before applying BKT. My hair also tends to be very dry.

Here's what I saw with my hair.

My BKT hair:
1. Washed well and my curl loosened.
2. Dried faster.

I initially did the treatment at 410 degrees. No frizz (that was great). After awhile I noticed that my strands appeared very thin and broke off/snapped in some places. My hair appeared weaker when wet and easily came out when combed. One of my strands actually peeled. A layer peeled off.

All that to say BKT probably didn't work that well for me because of the original condition of my hair. Just wanted to post my results.

 

[Desarae]

Ok it's been a while since I posted in here and I just want to let you ladies know...

I'm done with the BKT. Honestly I feel like my hair is ruined. My plan is to get braids and gradually cut the BKT'd hair off. I don't even want this hair anymore and i'm so sad about it. My hair was doing so well and had never been as long and healthy as it was before the treatment. (Softliss)

Because of the coating on my hair, none of my products are penetrating.

I immediately saw increased splits and breakage after the treatment. The breakage got so bad that my ends started to look see through, so I cut 4 inches off the back and 1 inch off all over my head. So I went from the length in my avi/siggy to a little under my ears. I'm so hurt.

I hate the way my hair feels wet and dry. When wet, it's a hard tangled mess as soon as I wash my DC out. When dry it feels ok the first day, then after that it's dry and crunchy feeling. Looks-wise, you wouldn't be able to tell, but I know my hair.

My hair is also shedding more from the root. I never had a problem with this before the treatment.

I collected a few pieces of shed hair from the shower and put them against a white sheet of paper so I could examine them, and the strands start off thick, then gradually get thinner and thinner all the way to the ends and then theres a sharp tiny curl on the end.

I'm seriously at loss and I wish I would have tested a section before doing my whole head, but you live and learn. Right now, i'm just looking forward to my newgrowth.

 

[MissMeWithThatIsh]

I think you should be careful flatironing a lot cause you CAN still get heat damage. My hair at the scalp too starts puffing up after the first day i just bun it up.


No matter what's advertised I think this treatment works better when your hair is pretty healthy already (because of the amount of heat required) if not your hair will pretty much do what it would have done before hand if it was weak.

***NOTE*** doing a DC (I used Aveda DR Treatment) before starting the process really helps put moisture into your strands

@ the bolded: I agree. My hair, so far has been behaving the same... and that's the one step I neglected to do or think about prior to doing the treatment. I will do that the next time around.

As for being careful with the heat, I'd rather take the risk now, as I feel I really put too much on my hair. After this 2nd touchup... I wrapped my hair last night and combed it down this morning and it's way more manageable than it was the past 2 days. Even if I sweat, tonight makes 72 hours... so I will be washing/rinsing the treatment tomorrow. Instead of having the "blowout puff", I have a nice full bodied style that flows in the wind and is airy. I think the "corrective heat" with the wrap was the only way to get the buildup sealed down further so I didn't look a hot mess today and tomorrow. If it doesn't work or messes things up further, then lesson learned. I'll be wigging it again within a few months anyway.

 

[MissMeWithThatIsh]

Ok it's been a while since I posted in here and I just want to let you ladies know...

I'm done with the BKT. Honestly I feel like my hair is ruined. My plan is to get braids and gradually cut the BKT'd hair off. I don't even want this hair anymore and i'm so sad about it. My hair was doing so well and had never been as long and healthy as it was before the treatment. (Softliss)

Because of the coating on my hair, none of my products are penetrating.

I immediately saw increased splits and breakage after the treatment. The breakage got so bad that my ends started to look see through, so I cut 4 inches off the back and 1 inch off all over my head. So I went from the length in my avi/siggy to a little under my ears. I'm so hurt.

I hate the way my hair feels wet and dry. When wet, it's a hard tangled mess as soon as I wash my DC out. When dry it feels ok the first day, then after that it's dry and crunchy feeling. Looks-wise, you wouldn't be able to tell, but I know my hair.

My hair is also shedding more from the root. I never had a problem with this before the treatment.

I collected a few pieces of shed hair from the shower and put them against a white sheet of paper so I could examine them, and the strands start off thick, then gradually get thinner and thinner all the way to the ends and then theres a sharp tiny curl on the end.

I'm seriously at loss and I wish I would have tested a section before doing my whole head, but you live and learn. Right now, i'm just looking forward to my newgrowth.

Sorry to hear that. What was your regimen when applying BKT? Did you do a DC before applying or performing touchups?

My best friend's cousin experienced severe breakage from doing the BKT on her hair 2x in 2 months. She's Dominican and in the 2 or 3 hair type category.

I'm wondering if we have to step up our moisture and care regimen months in advance before we apply this BKT? Since we'll have to make sure our hair is well moisturized under that protein coating?

 

[Desarae]

Sorry to hear that. What was your regimen when applying BKT? Did you do a DC before applying or performing touchups?

My best friend's cousin experienced severe breakage from doing the BKT on her hair 2x in 2 months. She's Dominican and in the 2 or 3 hair type category.

I'm wondering if we have to step up our moisture and care regimen months in advance before we apply this BKT? Since we'll have to make sure our hair is well moisturized under that protein coating?

I DC'd before hand, but the clarifying step negated any conditioning that was on my hair. I wonder if clarifying was even necessary??

I only BKT'd once.

My regimen before was:

Shampoo/DCce a week-Rollerset
Co-wash/DC mid week-bun
Protien and Moisture treatments as needed.
I only flatironed maybe once a month and never blowdried.

I'd like to think my hair was in pretty good condition before, even with the highlights, and only had highlights in my bang area.

I didn't have splits or breakage before, only normal shedding.
My protien and moisture was on point.

 

[sheba1]

Wow, I'm so sorry to hear about all of the negative experiences with BKT. I'm glad you ladies are coming forward as it's very important for people to get the greatest amount of most accurate info in order to make an informed decision. Thank you all.

I wish you all the greatest wishes in the restoration of your hair. Desirae, your post breaks my heart Have you tried a porosity treatment like porosity control followed by a DC and protein reconstructor? I'm so so sorry to hear of your pain and loss of length.

I use the 2% treatment and have had no problems with breakage, shedding or peeling. I've done the treatments 4 times in just about 4 months; the first 2 nearly back to back and the following treatments I'm waiting 2 to 3 months in between treatments.

I should add that I have had absolutely no problems of keeping my hair moisturized. I don't know why my BKT would allow my hair to get moisture and not others? I haven't even been DCing with heat since BKT (as I used to) and my hair has been flourishing. Pics are in my fotki of the progression.

I wash-n-go or wet bun right over top my DC. I was DCing with GVP matrix biolage and Elasta QP intense fortifying conditioner. Now I'm DCing with silicon mix and whale sperm from roundbrushhair. I choose not to press my hair in between BKT apps and I coat my hair daily with coconut oil and Aussie Sidney Smooth conditioner after cowashing with any Vo5 cheapie conditioner.

I really hope we're able to identify the factor that is causing some issue before any lost hairs are to follow.

 

[luckiestdestiny]

I need to ask some more questions!! And then I might be slightly apprehensive...

LD and yodie what kind of BKT was it that you guys used??? Did it have formaldehyde?? Maybe I should just stick with the no formaldehyde..

I used Brazilian Keratin but Brittanynic16 and sheba1 (I think) have used it with success. I was afraid to try softliss because of more protein (the xtra step) as I thought it might be even more drying.
But I am still doing my same regimen and my hair feels good.. but I am and have been watching closely on my mom's and my own hair. Besides the treatments 1x per month for me (every 6 weeks for Mama).. nothing else has changed.

BTW I only did it 1x too.

 

[luckiestdestiny]

Okay so I'm back with pictures. First of all I want to say that this process was SO much harder than I thought. After I blew it dry with the treatment in flat ironed it I was so tired so I just went to sleep and rinsed it out the next morning. So anyway on to the pics

Here is my hair blown dry with no product.

With the treatment on.

This is one section I blow dried and flatironed I did it in sections because my blow drying skills suck big time and it was easier that way.

This is an hour after flat ironing see how frizzy it is. I didn't go outside or anything so I don't know why it got frizzy like that.

The next morning i rinsed and applied the mask then I rollerset it with just LacioLacio. Then flat ironed any wavy parts with Chi Silk Infusion. Here is

the end result

Okay so that was a huge post sorry. I have more pics of the rollerset, pin curls, wet hair etc. in my LHCF if you wanna see them Album

Your hair looks absolutely gorgeous. Great results!

 

[pet]

Awww....everyone's posting their negative reviews now! I have to keep a close watch on my hair.. I have done two treatments with the QOD Gold...the first one went excellent...I didn't have any hair in the comb when I washed. The second one looked good, but then when I did my first wash, three times as much hair came out (all from the root). I went to the caribbean for two weeks, and I hardly took any vitamins (which I normally don't do), and I'm wondering if it was because of the climate change and lack of vitamins.. When I washed this week, I did a deep condition, and pressed as usual. I was planning on BKTing once a month, next week being my next treatment, but I'm not sure if I should just do deep conditoners for a while before doing the treatment again.. The only way I will know if it was the BKT is if I try it again in the climate my hair is use to, and make sure I take my vitamins..

 

[luckiestdestiny]

I'm sorry you ladies didn't have great results. I wonder if a formeldahyde free product would be more gentle?

That's a good idea. I may also test with a formaldehyde free formula. Prob not soft liss as it seems there's an extra protein step (too drying for my hair), but maybe Qod (It's supposed to be so low that they can claim formaldehyde free status or an aldehyde.) Or maybe one of the others. I'll have to research some of the other formaldehyde free ones...wasn't naturaltobe's formaldehyde free and really moisturizing? Off to check.

 

[luckiestdestiny]

I should add that I have had absolutely no problems of keeping my hair moisturized. I don't know why my BKT would allow my hair to get moisture and not others?

I'm don't think you were addressing me but in your case my assumption is that the moisture in your hair was already okay. Mine was already NOT and NEVER will be. In the past years since I was diagnosed with grave's I've dealt with insanely dry hair. I've dealt with brittleness and breakage, until I learned how to combat that. I have to go an extra step and be extra dilligent with moisture. while other people are looking to add protein condish one minute and moisture the next mine would laugh and be like where's the moisture? And so that's how I was able to grow my hair out again.That's why I have to Dc everytime I was because of my illness (sometimes overnight). So I need that dc to get all the moisture to me. In addition to other moisturizing products. Others have said they had to adjust products as they just sit on the hair. I can't have that happen. The products need to penetrate. So I think my issue is exceptional and I can't speak for the others.

 

[Dove56]

That's a good idea. I may also test with a formaldehyde free formula. Prob not soft liss as it seems there's an extra protein step (too drying for my hair), but maybe Qod (It's supposed to be so low that they can claim formaldehyde free status or an aldehyde.) Or maybe one of the others. I'll have to research some of the other formaldehyde free ones...wasn't naturaltobe's formaldehyde free and really moisturizing? Off to check.

I think Revenutrol (sp) is what Naturaltobe used and her hair looks great. I haven't noticed any breakage but I'm scared I will. I'm a worrywart too so I'll REALLY be on the lookout for damage.

Some women on Oprah's community board used Coppola Keratin and experienced breakage:

http://www.oprah.com/community/thread/113583

 

[MissMeWithThatIsh]

I DC'd before hand, but the clarifying step negated any conditioning that was on my hair. I wonder if clarifying was even necessary??

I only BKT'd once.

My regimen before was:

Shampoo/DCce a week-Rollerset
Co-wash/DC mid week-bun
Protien and Moisture treatments as needed.
I only flatironed maybe once a month and never blowdried.

I'd like to think my hair was in pretty good condition before, even with the highlights, and only had highlights in my bang area.

I didn't have splits or breakage before, only normal shedding.
My protien and moisture was on point.

I think that's something we may be able to look at and consider. I know some users (PinkSkates) experienced full reversion with no problems when treatment ran off, so I wonder what the difference was/is?

Your regimen sounds yummy! I hope you get your hair back to where you want it! How long has it "been in recovery?"

 

[Desarae]

I just did the treatment on July 30th, so since then.

 

[luckiestdestiny]

I think Revenutrol (sp) is what Naturaltobe used and her hair looks great. I haven't noticed any breakage but I'm scared I will. I'm a worrywart too so I'll REALLY be on the lookout for damage.

Some women on Oprah's community board used Coppola Keratin and experienced breakage:

http://www.oprah.com/community/thread/113583

Don't be a worry wart. I didn't want to alarm anyone until I had all the facts. But I also thought it was the responsible thing to do.

As for coppola I was excited when I heard about southern tease but after research I was like NO. I will not risk it. Coppola seemed like a chop salad of good and bad reviews. Also coppola will NOT confirm that it is BKT. It disassociates itself with BKT and will not reveal it's ingredients. So who knows what's in it. So I understand how you might feel about this one though I was initially excited about the promise. I did tons of research on BKT before I dived in, which is why I also knew that the protein and lack of moisture would cause me to only do a test area (because of my illness).

I'm pretty confident that those in excellent health, AND whose hair is in excellent condition (not one or the other but BOTH) will have excellent results with most bkt products if applied properly.

Thanks for the info on naturaltobe's brand too. I'll have to relook at her pm's and at her fokti to see her experience to refresh my memory.

 

[beana]

Just want to warn you ladies... ACV rinses may strip the BKT from hair!

This is something i've noticed over the past few washes (i ACV every week b/c it works wonders on my scalp). I'm 1 week into my 2nd treatment and its almost completely stripped. I plan on BKting again in 3 more weeks because I love how it seems to take my hair to the next level.

 

[Titansgirl]

Oops! Are they there now?

Your hair is so gorgeous. It looks like your treatment took well. Is this your 1st treatment?

 

[*fabulosity*]

Fab,

I do think the ones with formaldehyde leave a heavier coating/film. I haven't had any issues with breaking or peeling thank God. Softliss has been wonderful, but I'd still love to try a few more brands. Maybe.

See I would think that would be good. I'm still waiting on my NK "deal" to come through... I don't know ... but the results that people are now posting just have me like . I guess I just don't understand why it is so hit or miss.. Did you use heat regularly before VJ? I know I did.. maybe some people's hair can't take the heat?

Ok it's been a while since I posted in here and I just want to let you ladies know...

I'm done with the BKT. Honestly I feel like my hair is ruined. My plan is to get braids and gradually cut the BKT'd hair off. I don't even want this hair anymore and i'm so sad about it. My hair was doing so well and had never been as long and healthy as it was before the treatment. (Softliss)

Because of the coating on my hair, none of my products are penetrating.

I immediately saw increased splits and breakage after the treatment. The breakage got so bad that my ends started to look see through, so I cut 4 inches off the back and 1 inch off all over my head. So I went from the length in my avi/siggy to a little under my ears. I'm so hurt.

I hate the way my hair feels wet and dry. When wet, it's a hard tangled mess as soon as I wash my DC out. When dry it feels ok the first day, then after that it's dry and crunchy feeling. Looks-wise, you wouldn't be able to tell, but I know my hair.

My hair is also shedding more from the root. I never had a problem with this before the treatment.

I collected a few pieces of shed hair from the shower and put them against a white sheet of paper so I could examine them, and the strands start off thick, then gradually get thinner and thinner all the way to the ends and then theres a sharp tiny curl on the end.

I'm seriously at loss and I wish I would have tested a section before doing my whole head, but you live and learn. Right now, i'm just looking forward to my newgrowth.

Oh Desi! I'm so sorry to hear it. I thought your hair would be fine. I think there is definitely a need to use different products when you have the BKT. The BKT (well mine) seems to like products with cones. I am DCing with that Rusk Smoothing Keratin Treatment once a week now and I think my hair is feeling and looking even better than it did before. I am no BKT expert for sure, but I just want to troubleshoot this issue for people.. I don't know why... like I said earlier the results from (GReat) to (horrible; hair splitting/peeling) has got to have some type of a resolution... I still use a sulfate free poo..

I minimized the bunning I used to do. My reggie now is simple.. wash w/ poo 1-2x week, co wash 1-2x week. When wet I add either one of my moisturizers KBB Super Silky or Jasmine's moisture Renewal; one of my spray moisturizers (Juice and Berries or Giovanni Vitapro Fusion).. a dab of T3 heat seeking liquid boost (I really like this by the way) (HP) and go under the dryer. About 15 mins.. I'm dry... I flat iron on 450. To maintain for the week; I roll the crown with satin covered rollers; wrap the length and put my silk scarf/pretty wrap on.. done.

Some other things I do not do.. I do not clarify..unless I'm doing another rinse or BKT. I never prepooed before; don't do that after. I don't use any extra.. I just find my hair does not need it. Maybe some morrocanoil when I wrap.. but that's a big maybe. I do any special treatments (protein,color,moisture) etc before on the same day I do the BKT. I do the same with my mother whose hair is a bit finer than mine. She just got a hair cut.. but it looks awesome... she wanted a shorter bob for her birthday coming up. All good so far...

Hugs to the girls BKT is not working for. My mom touched my wet hair yesterday (it rained here and I did a sloppy bun) and she was like damn..it was really soft.. Even I was surprised. When it dried felt completely moisturized.

 

[Natural Glow]

I love your hair Natural Glow, it's beautiful and the color is gorgeous too!!! I guess I should forget about just BKT'ing my natural hair because my hair will definitely frizz (it's curlier than yours). Oh well, I will continue to Texlax with ORS then use Softliss.

Thanks Veejee. I think my hair got frizzy for a few reasons. First when I blew it dry with the treatment on I couldn't blow it straight so I was harder to straighten with the flat iron. Second I bought a new flat iron that goes up to 450degrees but I think I should have just stuck with my GVP flat iron cause it gets my hair smoother. Also it was just really humid here the last couple of days.

So next time I'm gonna buy a blow dryer with a comb attachment, use a lot less product, use my trusty GVP flat iron and hope for better, less frizzy results.

Your hair is so gorgeous. It looks like your treatment took well. Is this your 1st treatment?

Thanks. This is my first treatment. I'm hoping I don't have any bad results that some people are experiencing. I guess we'll see.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

I am so sorry to hear about the negative BKT experiences!!

I wonder what causes the problem for some and not others.

I knew before I did my BKT that my hair could handle high heat. I used to get the serious press & curls in Los Angeles back in the day and my hair would thrive.

I wonder if the ladies who are having problems have heat sensitive hair? I'm just wondering out loud. :scratchch

I also know that my hair likes protein regardless if its natural or relaxed. Any one with problems have protein sensitive hair?

I put 2 + 2 together and decided to leave the henna alone while BKTing (I have some good henna in my freezer that I need to sell or give away) They both work in similar fashion by coating the strand so I figured they would compete with one another.

I agree with those who say the hair should be in excellent condition before using the BKT because it's just going to seal what ever you had going on before up into the strand. I haven't had a problem with one bit of dryness at all with the BKT. My hair has been fabulous. It loves protein and cones, and coconut oil. I don't use much heat right now so it's just in fabulous condition. I feel I can reach my hair goals with my hair now.

I did a DC the week before my last BKT with Biolage Hydratherapy. My hair feels like spun silk. It's so freakishly smooth! I also have been using JOICO spray leave-in reconstructor, sealed with EVCO.. I don't think it could get any better for me. I just have to get my roots under control, and that's just going to be an on going challenge for me because I workout and sweat a lot (I don't use heat often). I plan to do a roots BKT touch up as soon as I get my Global 4%

Every conditioner I use has keratin in it..an a light cone. If I do a DC, I'll use a condish with a light cone in it like HE Seriously Straight as a final rinse. I make sure to use low pH products to keep my cuticles closed. I don't know if any of that makes a difference, its just things I have done always because I have naturally porous hair.

 

[luckiestdestiny]

I am so sorry to hear about the negative BKT experiences!!

I wonder what causes the problem for some and not others.

I knew before I did my BKT that my hair could handle high heat. I used to get the serious press & curls in Los Angeles back in the day and my hair would thrive.

I wonder if the ladies who are having problems have heat sensitive hair? Not me. I've had presses before.I'm just wondering out loud. :scratchch

I also know that my hair likes protein regardless if its natural or relaxed. Any one with problems have protein sensitive hair?Yes which is why I did a test on my bangs besides the other reason. My hair just loves moisture and I only occasionally (if ever) need protein. I just hoped keratin would be different as I can handle silk proteins well, and anything moisturizing.

I put 2 + 2 together and decided to leave the henna No henna for me. I only did moisturizing condish before because I knew it had protein. My condish was a pure avocado condish from scescentit w/o any protein whatsoever.
BKTing (I have some good henna in my freezer that I need to sell or give away) They both work in similar fashion by coating the strand so I figured they would compete with one another.

 

[Lucia]

Okay so I'm back with pictures. First of all I want to say that this process was SO much harder than I thought. After I blew it dry with the treatment in flat ironed it I was so tired so I just went to sleep and rinsed it out the next morning. So anyway on to the pics

Here is my hair blown dry with no product.

With the treatment on.

This is one section I blow dried and flatironed I did it in sections because my blow drying skills suck big time and it was easier that way.

This is an hour after flat ironing see how frizzy it is. I didn't go outside or anything so I don't know why it got frizzy like that.

The next morning i rinsed and applied the mask then I rollerset it with just LacioLacio. Then flat ironed any wavy parts with Chi Silk Infusion. Here is

the end result

Okay so that was a huge post sorry. I have more pics of the rollerset, pin curls, wet hair etc. in my LHCF if you wanna see them Album

your hair looks great

 

[naturalmanenyc]

This may be the culprit. Avocado is protein.


Avocados contain more protein than cow’s milk, about 2% per edible portion. A small avocado will provide more usable protein then a huge steak because cooked protein in meat is deranged and mostly unavailable to our liver, the organ which makes all of our body’s protein.




http://relaxedhairhealth.blogspot.com/2008/03/your-hair-will-love-avocado-oil.html

Avocado oil is excellent for the hair because the oil is rich in proteins, amino acids, and vitamins A,D,and E. What more can you ask for? The oil also acts as a humectant which means that it adds moisturize to the hair. Some have benefited from mashing up a ripe avocado and applying it to the hair as a deep conditioner. That is an honorable idea, but for me, it was a bit messy and I am not sure I received the same results as I would have if I would have simply used the oil with my favorite intense conditioner. If you do not have this oil in your hair arsenal I am definitely recommending it to you. Take a look at this video of a Ford Model who benefits from this wonderful fruit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUpvWPlqtYI&feature=player_embedded

I am so sorry to hear about the negative BKT experiences!!

I wonder what causes the problem for some and not others.

I knew before I did my BKT that my hair could handle high heat. I used to get the serious press & curls in Los Angeles back in the day and my hair would thrive.

I wonder if the ladies who are having problems have heat sensitive hair? Not me. I've had presses before.I'm just wondering out loud. :scratchch

I also know that my hair likes protein regardless if its natural or relaxed. Any one with problems have protein sensitive hair?Yes which is why I did a test on my bangs besides the other reason. My hair just loves moisture and I only occasionally (if ever) need protein. I just hoped keratin would be different as I can handle silk proteins well, and anything moisturizing.

I put 2 + 2 together and decided to leave the henna No henna for me. I only did moisturizing condish before because I knew it had protein. My condish was a pure avocado condish from scescentit w/o any protein whatsoever.
BKTing (I have some good henna in my freezer that I need to sell or give away) They both work in similar fashion by coating the strand so I figured they would compete with one another.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

This may be the culprit. Avocado is protein.


Avocados contain more protein than cow’s milk, about 2% per edible portion. A small avocado will provide more usable protein then a huge steak because cooked protein in meat is deranged and mostly unavailable to our liver, the organ which makes all of our body’s protein.




http://relaxedhairhealth.blogspot.com/2008/03/your-hair-will-love-avocado-oil.html

Avocado oil is excellent for the hair because the oil is rich in proteins, amino acids, and vitamins A,D,and E. What more can you ask for? The oil also acts as a humectant which means that it adds moisturize to the hair. Some have benefited from mashing up a ripe avocado and applying it to the hair as a deep conditioner. That is an honorable idea, but for me, it was a bit messy and I am not sure I received the same results as I would have if I would have simply used the oil with my favorite intense conditioner. If you do not have this oil in your hair arsenal I am definitely recommending it to you. Take a look at this video of a Ford Model who benefits from this wonderful fruit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUpvWPlqtYI&feature=player_embedded

Well knock me down and call me shorty, I didn't know avocado was considered a protein!! I just know that my hair likes it!

Hair is an interesting thing, its so different for everyone.

I have very fine, fluffy cotton like strands. I felt like the BKT would help me because it would add re-enforcement to the outer layer of my strand and help my cuticles to lay closed. The BKT is having the exact effect I expected. That's another reason I use Cellophanes because it adds a coating and therefore weight to my strands.

I'm guessing my hair likes protein conditoners because it adheres to the cuticle and helps to re-enforce my hair as well.


I am going to carefully read through the posts with problems tomorrow and see if I can spot a pattern, and brainstorm on what could be causing these problems.

The other thing I don't see mentioned (just scanning) are we mentioning the type of flat iron they are using? The BKT is supposed to be used with a solid ceramic flat iron. That makes a huge difference in whether or not the product is baked onto the hair strands successfully.

Another thing I would like to check to see if there are specific brands that seems to be causing the problems.

I've only used OK Keratin Chocolate and Softliss Chocolate. I will be trying GLobal in a week or two. Pink Skates has used QOD Gold successfully. Naturaltobe has successfully tried a couple of other brands.

 

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Well knock me down and call me shorty, <<<<< My mom would say, "Well cut my leg and call me Shorty," and I would say it and my friends would roll over and die!! I was thinking of this saying 2DAY!!! I can't believe you used it!! Just sooo funny, brings back memories....
I didn't know avocado was considered a protein!! I just know that my hair likes it!

Hair is an interesting thing, its so different for everyone.

I have very fine, fluffy cotton like strands. I felt like the BKT would help me because it would add re-enforcement to the outer layer of my strand and help my cuticles to lay closed. The BKT is having the exact effect I expected. That's another reason I use Cellophanes because it adds a coating and therefore weight to my strands.

I'm guessing my hair likes protein conditoners because it adheres to the cuticle and helps to re-enforce my hair as well.


I am going to carefully read through the posts with problems tomorrow and see if I can spot a pattern, and brainstorm on what could be causing these problems.

The other thing I don't see mentioned (just scanning) are we mentioning the type of flat iron they are using? The BKT is supposed to be used with a solid ceramic flat iron. That makes a huge difference in whether or not the product is baked onto the hair strands successfully.

Another thing I would like to check to see if there are specific brands that seems to be causing the problems.

I've only used OK Keratin Chocolate and Softliss Chocolate. I will be trying GLobal in a week or two. Pink Skates has used QOD Gold successfully. Naturaltobe has successfully tried a couple of other brands.

Well my hair is doing okay. I'm still shedding a bit and having some breakage, but it has stopped alot since I've used Motions Protein Reconstructor for the last couple of weeks. Now I have long shed hairs and not as much breakage which is great. My hair feels moisturized but it is reverting quicker than before so I know the bkt is wearing off. I have been using a lot of proteins, Tressemme Anti-Breakage with Gelatin as a co-wash, Aphogee 2 minute, Motions and I tried Joico Lite which has keratin protein in it. My hair is super shiny and feels smooth. I cowashed, rollerset and flat ironed. My hair did not get smooth when I rollerset it, and I wasn't surprised. At least this enables me to get salon results at home - with relative ease. Not sure when i'll bkt again, I may wait another month.

I'm sorry for the bad reports. I was shocked when I experienced shedding and breakage, as well. My hair wasn't in the best condition, but it was pretty good, those ends were an issue for me. I really wanted this to strengthen my strands. Unfortunately, It is not a miracle in a bottle for everyone. Oh well. erplexed I pray you all have a speedy recovery and recoup even more hair than what was lost.